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        <![CDATA[<p>In this powerful episode of Between Sundays, the crew welcomes Bishop Ishmael Charles, Field Director for the Caribbean, for a conversation about prayer, missions, mentorship, and the life-changing power of investment in others.</p>

<p>Bishop Charles shares the remarkable story of a prayer movement that began during COVID with a small group on Zoom and has now grown into a global daily gathering reaching 73 countries. What started as a way to keep a local congregation connected has become a years-long outpouring of prayer, worship, testimonies, communion, and ministry that continues every single morning.</p>

<p>This episode is a testimony to what can happen when prayer becomes a priority, when people invest in others, and when the gospel is carried to the nations.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about supporting World Missions, click <a href="https://www.cogwm.org/give/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>Bishop Charles shares the remarkable story of a prayer movement that began during COVID with a small group on Zoom and has now grown into a global daily gathering reaching 73 countries. What started as a way to keep a local congregation connected has become a years-long outpouring of prayer, worship, testimonies, communion, and ministry that continues every single morning.</p>

<p>This episode is a testimony to what can happen when prayer becomes a priority, when people invest in others, and when the gospel is carried to the nations.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about supporting World Missions, click <a href="https://www.cogwm.org/give/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>Bishop Charles shares the remarkable story of a prayer movement that began during COVID with a small group on Zoom and has now grown into a global daily gathering reaching 73 countries. What started as a way to keep a local congregation connected has become a years-long outpouring of prayer, worship, testimonies, communion, and ministry that continues every single morning.</p>

<p>This episode is a testimony to what can happen when prayer becomes a priority, when people invest in others, and when the gospel is carried to the nations.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>

<p>To learn more about supporting World Missions, click <a href="https://www.cogwm.org/give/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Mark Williams is joined by Dr. Gary Lewis, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper for a wide-ranging conversation with Dr. Fijoy Johnson: church planter, lifelong Church of God minister, and the newly appointed Director of Intercultural Ministries. Dr. Johnson shares his journey from India to the United States, lessons learned from planting a church while working full-time, and why he believes the future of the Western church is deeply intercultural, rooted in Scripture, love, and representation.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 18: The Church is in a Discipleship Crisis </title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Amy McGlamery, co-pastor of North Cleveland Church of God, for a timely conversation about calling, leadership, young adults, and the growing discipleship gap in today’s church. Pastor Amy shares her personal journey—how North Cleveland has been woven into her story for years, and speaks candidly about embracing God’s call, especially as a woman in ministry. </p>

<p>The conversation then turns to what many churches are facing right now: a generation hungry for truth, but living in a culture of biblical innocence and spiritual fragmentation.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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<p>The conversation then turns to what many churches are facing right now: a generation hungry for truth, but living in a culture of biblical innocence and spiritual fragmentation.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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<p>The conversation then turns to what many churches are facing right now: a generation hungry for truth, but living in a culture of biblical innocence and spiritual fragmentation.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 17: Your Church is Anxious | Here's What they Really Need </title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at the We Gather weekend on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, this special episode tackles a question every pastor faces: How do we lead people through crisis without letting crisis lead the pulpit? From national tragedies to local trauma, the hosts discuss preaching a timely word, resisting “reactive preaching,” and offering a biblical perspective in a world flooded with headlines.</p>

<p>In the second half, the conversation turns to chaplaincy with Army Chaplain Ryan Wood (Lee University &amp; PTS graduate), who shares what ministry looks like on a military installation, especially in the aftermath of an on-base shooting. With honesty and hope, he explains how chaplains bring presence, prayer, and practical care when people are hurting most, and how local churches can better serve military families who are constantly in transition.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at the We Gather weekend on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, this special episode tackles a question every pastor faces: How do we lead people through crisis without letting crisis lead the pulpit? From national tragedies to local trauma, the hosts discuss preaching a timely word, resisting “reactive preaching,” and offering a biblical perspective in a world flooded with headlines.</p>

<p>In the second half, the conversation turns to chaplaincy with Army Chaplain Ryan Wood (Lee University &amp; PTS graduate), who shares what ministry looks like on a military installation, especially in the aftermath of an on-base shooting. With honesty and hope, he explains how chaplains bring presence, prayer, and practical care when people are hurting most, and how local churches can better serve military families who are constantly in transition.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Recorded live at the We Gather weekend on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, this special episode tackles a question every pastor faces: How do we lead people through crisis without letting crisis lead the pulpit? From national tragedies to local trauma, the hosts discuss preaching a timely word, resisting “reactive preaching,” and offering a biblical perspective in a world flooded with headlines.</p>

<p>In the second half, the conversation turns to chaplaincy with Army Chaplain Ryan Wood (Lee University &amp; PTS graduate), who shares what ministry looks like on a military installation, especially in the aftermath of an on-base shooting. With honesty and hope, he explains how chaplains bring presence, prayer, and practical care when people are hurting most, and how local churches can better serve military families who are constantly in transition.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 16: The Season You’re In: How Ministry Families Survive (and Thrive)</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.</p>

<p>Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life. </p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.</p>

<p>Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life. </p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special episode of Between Sundays, the hosts are joined by their spouses on the campus of Mount Paran Church of God in Atlanta, Georgia.</p>

<p>Together, they talk candidly about what it looks like to stay healthy in a 24/7 calling; how they unwind, how they protect marriage and family time, and how they’ve learned to embrace the different seasons of ministry life. </p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">David Cooper</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 15: Preaching Truth in a Feel-Good World </title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2025 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>cguyton@gmail.com (Church of God)</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Trey Powell shares his incredible journey of returning to pastor the church where he grew up. It&#39;s a story of faith, family legacy, and God’s perfect timing. From nearly “burning down the church” in a youth drama to leading that same congregation years later, Trey reflects on God’s preparation through seasons of growth and calling.</p>

<p>The hosts and Trey discuss the deep roots of the Church of God family, the importance of preaching biblical truth, and why authenticity and connection matter more than ever in ministry today. They also share plenty of laughter, from pulpit bloopers to “weird uncles” in the family of faith, and remind listeners that at the heart of it all, it’s about making a big deal out of Jesus.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Trey Powell shares his incredible journey of returning to pastor the church where he grew up. It&#39;s a story of faith, family legacy, and God’s perfect timing. From nearly “burning down the church” in a youth drama to leading that same congregation years later, Trey reflects on God’s preparation through seasons of growth and calling.</p>

<p>The hosts and Trey discuss the deep roots of the Church of God family, the importance of preaching biblical truth, and why authenticity and connection matter more than ever in ministry today. They also share plenty of laughter, from pulpit bloopers to “weird uncles” in the family of faith, and remind listeners that at the heart of it all, it’s about making a big deal out of Jesus.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Trey Powell shares his incredible journey of returning to pastor the church where he grew up. It&#39;s a story of faith, family legacy, and God’s perfect timing. From nearly “burning down the church” in a youth drama to leading that same congregation years later, Trey reflects on God’s preparation through seasons of growth and calling.</p>

<p>The hosts and Trey discuss the deep roots of the Church of God family, the importance of preaching biblical truth, and why authenticity and connection matter more than ever in ministry today. They also share plenty of laughter, from pulpit bloopers to “weird uncles” in the family of faith, and remind listeners that at the heart of it all, it’s about making a big deal out of Jesus.</p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnWYoEB0FDn4ZxAw99vCgLAKf5241l6kM&si=syfHXzRcjnMVAHrU" rel="nofollow">HERE</a>.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 14: Obedience Over Opportunity.</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2025 11:15:00 -0400</pubDate>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this inspiring episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Brittney Parete of Oak Grove Church of God. Her journey is one of faith, obedience, and courage—answering God’s call amid tragedy and uncertainty.</p>

<p>At just 25 years old, Brittany and her husband Joe stepped into leadership following the unexpected passing of her grandfather, who pastored the church for 36 years. Brittany shares her deeply personal story—how she felt the weight of a mantle during grief, how she battled doubt and cultural resistance as a young female pastor, and how she learned to lead with prayer, fasting, and unshakable obedience.</p>

<p>The hosts reflect on the importance of authenticity in ministry, the danger of self-promotion, and the power of simply being present where God plants you. This conversation is a powerful reminder that God’s anointing is not limited by age, gender, or geography.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this inspiring episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Brittney Parete of Oak Grove Church of God. Her journey is one of faith, obedience, and courage—answering God’s call amid tragedy and uncertainty.</p>

<p>At just 25 years old, Brittany and her husband Joe stepped into leadership following the unexpected passing of her grandfather, who pastored the church for 36 years. Brittany shares her deeply personal story—how she felt the weight of a mantle during grief, how she battled doubt and cultural resistance as a young female pastor, and how she learned to lead with prayer, fasting, and unshakable obedience.</p>

<p>The hosts reflect on the importance of authenticity in ministry, the danger of self-promotion, and the power of simply being present where God plants you. This conversation is a powerful reminder that God’s anointing is not limited by age, gender, or geography.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this inspiring episode of Between Sundays, the hosts welcome Pastor Brittney Parete of Oak Grove Church of God. Her journey is one of faith, obedience, and courage—answering God’s call amid tragedy and uncertainty.</p>

<p>At just 25 years old, Brittany and her husband Joe stepped into leadership following the unexpected passing of her grandfather, who pastored the church for 36 years. Brittany shares her deeply personal story—how she felt the weight of a mantle during grief, how she battled doubt and cultural resistance as a young female pastor, and how she learned to lead with prayer, fasting, and unshakable obedience.</p>

<p>The hosts reflect on the importance of authenticity in ministry, the danger of self-promotion, and the power of simply being present where God plants you. This conversation is a powerful reminder that God’s anointing is not limited by age, gender, or geography.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">David Cooper</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Loran Livingston</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Gary Lewis </podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 13: LIVE FROM OHIO: The One Thing Culture Can't Cancel: Truth </title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>cguyton@gmail.com (Church of God)</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this live-recorded episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper gather at Princeton Pike Church during We Gather Cincinnati for a discussion on ministry in today’s fragmented culture. Together, they address the rise of spiritual warfare, the pressures pastors face in an increasingly divided world, and the urgency of preaching God’s Word without compromise.</p>

<p>-The conversation also explores:<br>
-The connection between revival and persecution throughout church history<br>
-How to recognize the demonic forces at work in today’s society<br>
-The challenge of staying true to Scripture amid cultural fragmentation<br>
-The hope of Christ’s imminent return and how it shapes holy living<br>
-Encouragement for pastors walking through seasons of discouragement and “mundane faithfulness”</p>

<p>To Order Dr. Cooper&#39;s latest book, Armaggedon Approaching, click <a href="https://store.mountparan.com/product/armageddon-approaching/G75SIIX7WINWBTY6AACKES2D?cs=true&cst=custom" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>To watch Dr. Mark Williams&#39; sermon from Lee University Chapel, click <a href="https://vimeo.com/1121293243/ac5a22d4c4?share=copy" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this live-recorded episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper gather at Princeton Pike Church during We Gather Cincinnati for a discussion on ministry in today’s fragmented culture. Together, they address the rise of spiritual warfare, the pressures pastors face in an increasingly divided world, and the urgency of preaching God’s Word without compromise.</p>

<p>-The conversation also explores:<br>
-The connection between revival and persecution throughout church history<br>
-How to recognize the demonic forces at work in today’s society<br>
-The challenge of staying true to Scripture amid cultural fragmentation<br>
-The hope of Christ’s imminent return and how it shapes holy living<br>
-Encouragement for pastors walking through seasons of discouragement and “mundane faithfulness”</p>

<p>To Order Dr. Cooper&#39;s latest book, Armaggedon Approaching, click <a href="https://store.mountparan.com/product/armageddon-approaching/G75SIIX7WINWBTY6AACKES2D?cs=true&cst=custom" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>To watch Dr. Mark Williams&#39; sermon from Lee University Chapel, click <a href="https://vimeo.com/1121293243/ac5a22d4c4?share=copy" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this live-recorded episode of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper gather at Princeton Pike Church during We Gather Cincinnati for a discussion on ministry in today’s fragmented culture. Together, they address the rise of spiritual warfare, the pressures pastors face in an increasingly divided world, and the urgency of preaching God’s Word without compromise.</p>

<p>-The conversation also explores:<br>
-The connection between revival and persecution throughout church history<br>
-How to recognize the demonic forces at work in today’s society<br>
-The challenge of staying true to Scripture amid cultural fragmentation<br>
-The hope of Christ’s imminent return and how it shapes holy living<br>
-Encouragement for pastors walking through seasons of discouragement and “mundane faithfulness”</p>

<p>To Order Dr. Cooper&#39;s latest book, Armaggedon Approaching, click <a href="https://store.mountparan.com/product/armageddon-approaching/G75SIIX7WINWBTY6AACKES2D?cs=true&cst=custom" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>To watch Dr. Mark Williams&#39; sermon from Lee University Chapel, click <a href="https://vimeo.com/1121293243/ac5a22d4c4?share=copy" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">David Cooper</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Loran Livingston</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 12: Why Your Church Might Be Spiritually Malnourished </title>
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      <author>cguyton@gmail.com (Church of God)</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Dr. Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper dive into one of the most urgent realities of ministry today: spiritual warfare and the return of Christ.</p>

<p>From the growing darkness in culture to the subtle deception creeping into pulpits, the conversation explores the challenges pastors face in preparing their people for the Lord’s imminent return. The hosts challenge ministers to keep preaching the Word with conviction, avoid the “cotton candy” of shallow preaching, and stay faithful to their call.</p>

<p>Topics include:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why deception is the most dangerous form of spiritual warfare.</li>
<li>The decline of biblical truth in American culture.</li>
<li>Lessons from Noah and the days of Lot.</li>
<li>Why preaching the imminent return of Christ matters more than ever.</li>
<li>The sacred responsibility of preparing sermons with labor and discipline.</li>
<li>How pastors can endure the marathon of ministry without running out of “oil.”</li>
</ul>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>Church of God, pastor, preacher, teacher, church, christian, Jesus, podcast, Holy Spirit, God, discipleship, training, conversations, authentic, transparent, ministry, calling, call of God</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Dr. Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper dive into one of the most urgent realities of ministry today: spiritual warfare and the return of Christ.</p>

<p>From the growing darkness in culture to the subtle deception creeping into pulpits, the conversation explores the challenges pastors face in preparing their people for the Lord’s imminent return. The hosts challenge ministers to keep preaching the Word with conviction, avoid the “cotton candy” of shallow preaching, and stay faithful to their call.</p>

<p>Topics include:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why deception is the most dangerous form of spiritual warfare.</li>
<li>The decline of biblical truth in American culture.</li>
<li>Lessons from Noah and the days of Lot.</li>
<li>Why preaching the imminent return of Christ matters more than ever.</li>
<li>The sacred responsibility of preparing sermons with labor and discipline.</li>
<li>How pastors can endure the marathon of ministry without running out of “oil.”</li>
</ul>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Between Sundays, Dr. Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper dive into one of the most urgent realities of ministry today: spiritual warfare and the return of Christ.</p>

<p>From the growing darkness in culture to the subtle deception creeping into pulpits, the conversation explores the challenges pastors face in preparing their people for the Lord’s imminent return. The hosts challenge ministers to keep preaching the Word with conviction, avoid the “cotton candy” of shallow preaching, and stay faithful to their call.</p>

<p>Topics include:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why deception is the most dangerous form of spiritual warfare.</li>
<li>The decline of biblical truth in American culture.</li>
<li>Lessons from Noah and the days of Lot.</li>
<li>Why preaching the imminent return of Christ matters more than ever.</li>
<li>The sacred responsibility of preparing sermons with labor and discipline.</li>
<li>How pastors can endure the marathon of ministry without running out of “oil.”</li>
</ul>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Loran Livingston</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Gary Lewis </podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 11: You Can't Do It All (and Shouldn't Try!)</title>
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<p>The conversation is an honest dialogue about denominational culture and the tension between God’s sovereignty and human free will. This episode challenges leaders to keep the mission of the Gospel central and to prepare God’s people for the works He has already prepared for them.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

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<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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<p>The conversation is an honest dialogue about denominational culture and the tension between God’s sovereignty and human free will. This episode challenges leaders to keep the mission of the Gospel central and to prepare God’s people for the works He has already prepared for them.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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<p>The conversation is an honest dialogue about denominational culture and the tension between God’s sovereignty and human free will. This episode challenges leaders to keep the mission of the Gospel central and to prepare God’s people for the works He has already prepared for them.</p>

<p>Subscribe on Apple Podcasts:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388" rel="nofollow">https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/between-sundays/id1803242388</a></p>

<p>Subscribe on Spotify:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/show/5vWMwE2aUluy5REqXryuJu?si=JV7F1wSKR2ezopaCo4B8zw</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn more about Dr. Vest&#39;s Library of Divine Inspiration <a href="https://www.adultdiscipleshipcog.com/all-resources/p/the-library-of-divine-inspiration-powerpoint" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Join the WE GROW Bible reading community <a href="https://glm.audiencetap.com/form/YLSwhg" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ/podcasts" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn more about Dr. Vest&#39;s Library of Divine Inspiration <a href="https://www.adultdiscipleshipcog.com/all-resources/p/the-library-of-divine-inspiration-powerpoint" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Join the WE GROW Bible reading community <a href="https://glm.audiencetap.com/form/YLSwhg" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ/podcasts" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn more about Dr. Vest&#39;s Library of Divine Inspiration <a href="https://www.adultdiscipleshipcog.com/all-resources/p/the-library-of-divine-inspiration-powerpoint" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Join the WE GROW Bible reading community <a href="https://glm.audiencetap.com/form/YLSwhg" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>

<p>Watch and Subscribe to the Video Version of Between Sundays Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ/podcasts" rel="nofollow">HERE!</a></p>]]>
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<p>The team also dives into the realities of burnout, generational leadership, and the sacred responsibility of stewarding God’s house and His people. This episode is packed with wisdom, laughs, and a reminder that sometimes, ministry starts with just cutting the grass.</p>

<p>Get more information about Pastor Pressley and 9-10 Livingston Church of God <a href="https://nine10church.online/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>The team also dives into the realities of burnout, generational leadership, and the sacred responsibility of stewarding God’s house and His people. This episode is packed with wisdom, laughs, and a reminder that sometimes, ministry starts with just cutting the grass.</p>

<p>Get more information about Pastor Pressley and 9-10 Livingston Church of God <a href="https://nine10church.online/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>The team also dives into the realities of burnout, generational leadership, and the sacred responsibility of stewarding God’s house and His people. This episode is packed with wisdom, laughs, and a reminder that sometimes, ministry starts with just cutting the grass.</p>

<p>Get more information about Pastor Pressley and 9-10 Livingston Church of God <a href="https://nine10church.online/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn More about Renewal Church <a href="https://www.renewalftl.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Lean More about the Ministry of Evangelism <a href="https://www.cogmoe.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of the Between Sunday&#39;s Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn More about Renewal Church <a href="https://www.renewalftl.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Lean More about the Ministry of Evangelism <a href="https://www.cogmoe.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of the Between Sunday&#39;s Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>]]>
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<p>Learn More about Renewal Church <a href="https://www.renewalftl.com/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Lean More about the Ministry of Evangelism <a href="https://www.cogmoe.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of the Between Sunday&#39;s Podcast <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">HERE.</a></p>]]>
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<p>Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:</p>

<p>Surviving burnout in ministry<br>
Navigating pain at home while leading<br>
Long-term pastoral health &amp; boundaries<br>
Loving your city back to life</p>

<p>Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus. </p>

<p>Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore <a href="https://www.cityofrefugebaltimore.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:</p>

<p>Surviving burnout in ministry<br>
Navigating pain at home while leading<br>
Long-term pastoral health &amp; boundaries<br>
Loving your city back to life</p>

<p>Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus. </p>

<p>Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore <a href="https://www.cityofrefugebaltimore.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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<p>Gary, Loran, Mark, and David discuss a wide number of topics, including:</p>

<p>Surviving burnout in ministry<br>
Navigating pain at home while leading<br>
Long-term pastoral health &amp; boundaries<br>
Loving your city back to life</p>

<p>Plus, an incredible story from Pastor Billy Humphrey, founder of City of Refuge Baltimore, who went from poverty to purpose — and is now transforming his neighborhood with the hope of Jesus. </p>

<p>Learn More about City of Refuge Baltimore <a href="https://www.cityofrefugebaltimore.org/" rel="nofollow">HERE</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this profoundly moving episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Caleen Howard shares her extraordinary journey of faith, obedience, and resilience. From the call that led her and her husband from Toronto to Evanston, Illinois, to the unimaginable tragedy that changed everything, Pastor Howard speaks with grace and clarity about the cost—and power—of saying “yes” to God.</p>

<p>If you’ve ever wondered how to keep going when life takes a turn you never saw coming, Pastor Howard’s story will leave you inspired and reminded that God’s plans are good—even when the path is hard.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this profoundly moving episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Caleen Howard shares her extraordinary journey of faith, obedience, and resilience. From the call that led her and her husband from Toronto to Evanston, Illinois, to the unimaginable tragedy that changed everything, Pastor Howard speaks with grace and clarity about the cost—and power—of saying “yes” to God.</p>

<p>If you’ve ever wondered how to keep going when life takes a turn you never saw coming, Pastor Howard’s story will leave you inspired and reminded that God’s plans are good—even when the path is hard.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this profoundly moving episode of Between Sundays, Pastor Caleen Howard shares her extraordinary journey of faith, obedience, and resilience. From the call that led her and her husband from Toronto to Evanston, Illinois, to the unimaginable tragedy that changed everything, Pastor Howard speaks with grace and clarity about the cost—and power—of saying “yes” to God.</p>

<p>If you’ve ever wondered how to keep going when life takes a turn you never saw coming, Pastor Howard’s story will leave you inspired and reminded that God’s plans are good—even when the path is hard.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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<p>Listen to candid conversations about stewardship, generosity, and the transformative power of giving in ministry. You&#39;ll hear testimonies, including how teaching stewardship has transformed churches, the importance of transparency in church finances, and how giving can free individuals from fear and selfishness. </p>

<p>This episode also addresses the challenges pastors face in preaching about giving and provides practical advice on inspiring a culture of generosity without fear or manipulation.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>

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<p>This episode also addresses the challenges pastors face in preaching about giving and provides practical advice on inspiring a culture of generosity without fear or manipulation.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>

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<p>Listen to candid conversations about stewardship, generosity, and the transformative power of giving in ministry. You&#39;ll hear testimonies, including how teaching stewardship has transformed churches, the importance of transparency in church finances, and how giving can free individuals from fear and selfishness. </p>

<p>This episode also addresses the challenges pastors face in preaching about giving and provides practical advice on inspiring a culture of generosity without fear or manipulation.</p>

<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>

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<p>With wisdom drawn from decades of experience, they share insights on staying spiritually refreshed, avoiding the trap of comparison, leading through hard seasons, and embracing the sacred weight of the calling. From laughter-filled stories about road trip mishaps to deeply personal reflections on burnout, mental health, and calling, this episode is a masterclass in pastoral resilience and authenticity.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re in a season of harvest or hardship, this episode will encourage you to stay the course, remember your calling, and never lose sight of the One you&#39;re following.</p>

<p>If you are feeling alone or depressed, please talk to someone at the <a href="https://www.centerforministerialcare.com/" rel="nofollow">Center for Ministerial Care</a></p>]]>
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<p>With wisdom drawn from decades of experience, they share insights on staying spiritually refreshed, avoiding the trap of comparison, leading through hard seasons, and embracing the sacred weight of the calling. From laughter-filled stories about road trip mishaps to deeply personal reflections on burnout, mental health, and calling, this episode is a masterclass in pastoral resilience and authenticity.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re in a season of harvest or hardship, this episode will encourage you to stay the course, remember your calling, and never lose sight of the One you&#39;re following.</p>

<p>If you are feeling alone or depressed, please talk to someone at the <a href="https://www.centerforministerialcare.com/" rel="nofollow">Center for Ministerial Care</a></p>]]>
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<p>With wisdom drawn from decades of experience, they share insights on staying spiritually refreshed, avoiding the trap of comparison, leading through hard seasons, and embracing the sacred weight of the calling. From laughter-filled stories about road trip mishaps to deeply personal reflections on burnout, mental health, and calling, this episode is a masterclass in pastoral resilience and authenticity.</p>

<p>Whether you&#39;re in a season of harvest or hardship, this episode will encourage you to stay the course, remember your calling, and never lose sight of the One you&#39;re following.</p>

<p>If you are feeling alone or depressed, please talk to someone at the <a href="https://www.centerforministerialcare.com/" rel="nofollow">Center for Ministerial Care</a></p>]]>
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<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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<p>Watch Full Episodes of Between Sundays <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@COGHQ" rel="nofollow">@COGHQ YouTube</a></p>]]>
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<p>In Episode 2 of Between Sundays, Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston, and David Cooper dive into the sacred call of preaching. They explore the anointing that sets true preaching apart, sharing personal stories—like Livingston’s time with Billy Graham and Cooper’s defining call from God. The conversation tackles the balance of preparation and spontaneity, the &quot;inescapable call&quot; to preach, and the need for a revival of authentic gospel proclamation in today’s culture. </p>

<h1>WePreach Conference</h1>

<p>Central Church in Charlotte, North Carolina <br>
2026: Dates Coming Soon </p>

<p>Listen to <strong><em><a href="https://youtu.be/0TPKuUvFmCk" rel="nofollow">The Anointing Makes the Difference </a></em></strong></p>]]>
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<h1>WePreach Conference</h1>

<p>Central Church in Charlotte, North Carolina <br>
2026: Dates Coming Soon </p>

<p>Listen to <strong><em><a href="https://youtu.be/0TPKuUvFmCk" rel="nofollow">The Anointing Makes the Difference </a></em></strong></p>]]>
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<h1>WePreach Conference</h1>

<p>Central Church in Charlotte, North Carolina <br>
2026: Dates Coming Soon </p>

<p>Listen to <strong><em><a href="https://youtu.be/0TPKuUvFmCk" rel="nofollow">The Anointing Makes the Difference </a></em></strong></p>]]>
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<p>In this debut episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston and David Cooper have an authentic conversation about the realities of life in ministry. They discuss the challenges of following a legacy leader, the significance of small beginnings, and the faithfulness required to navigate the ups and downs of pastoral life. With personal stories of stepping into the unknown, trusting God&#39;s provision, and staying committed to the call, this episode offers wisdom and encouragement for pastors and leaders at every stage of ministry. </p>

<p>Tune in for powerful insights, real-life experiences, and a reminder that true success in ministry is measured not by numbers, but by faithfulness to God&#39;s calling.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Episode 1: The Calling, The Challenges, and The Journey</p>

<p>In this debut episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston and David Cooper have an authentic conversation about the realities of life in ministry. They discuss the challenges of following a legacy leader, the significance of small beginnings, and the faithfulness required to navigate the ups and downs of pastoral life. With personal stories of stepping into the unknown, trusting God&#39;s provision, and staying committed to the call, this episode offers wisdom and encouragement for pastors and leaders at every stage of ministry. </p>

<p>Tune in for powerful insights, real-life experiences, and a reminder that true success in ministry is measured not by numbers, but by faithfulness to God&#39;s calling.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Episode 1: The Calling, The Challenges, and The Journey</p>

<p>In this debut episode of Between Sundays, hosts Gary Lewis, Mark Williams, Loran Livingston and David Cooper have an authentic conversation about the realities of life in ministry. They discuss the challenges of following a legacy leader, the significance of small beginnings, and the faithfulness required to navigate the ups and downs of pastoral life. With personal stories of stepping into the unknown, trusting God&#39;s provision, and staying committed to the call, this episode offers wisdom and encouragement for pastors and leaders at every stage of ministry. </p>

<p>Tune in for powerful insights, real-life experiences, and a reminder that true success in ministry is measured not by numbers, but by faithfulness to God&#39;s calling.</p>]]>
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