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      <title>Episode 17: Entangled: Race, Politics, and Post-Callais America</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Law professors Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen join me to discuss voting rights, especially after the Supreme Court's decision in Louisiana v. Callais.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court&#39;s <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow">--&quot;House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D),&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism,&quot; (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation,&quot; (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Funky end,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court&#39;s <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow">--&quot;House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D),&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism,&quot; (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation,&quot; (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Funky end,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court&#39;s <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow">--&quot;House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D),&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism,&quot; (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation,&quot; (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Funky end,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 16: Threading the Needle</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Brandon Yoder and I discuss relations between China and Taiwan.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Wen and Bush in Oval office,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Obama tells Trump to &#39;think it through&#39; on China,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Biden reaffirms &#39;One China Policy&#39; after talks with Xi | ANC,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence,&quot; (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip,&quot; (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say,&quot; (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Wen and Bush in Oval office,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Obama tells Trump to &#39;think it through&#39; on China,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Biden reaffirms &#39;One China Policy&#39; after talks with Xi | ANC,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence,&quot; (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip,&quot; (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say,&quot; (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Wen and Bush in Oval office,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Obama tells Trump to &#39;think it through&#39; on China,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Biden reaffirms &#39;One China Policy&#39; after talks with Xi | ANC,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence,&quot; (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip,&quot; (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say,&quot; (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 15: Decline and Fall</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow">--&quot;McCain counters Obama &#39;Arab&#39; question,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump: They&#39;re eating the dogs, the cats,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow">--&quot;New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow">--Lilliana Mason&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse and mark of Cain,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse of Ham,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A new measure of affective polarization,&quot; (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow">--Linda Skitka&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Sermon on the Mount,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll,&quot; The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans,&quot; (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>politics, identity, ideology, Trump, partisanship, religion</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow">--&quot;McCain counters Obama &#39;Arab&#39; question,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump: They&#39;re eating the dogs, the cats,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow">--&quot;New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow">--Lilliana Mason&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse and mark of Cain,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse of Ham,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A new measure of affective polarization,&quot; (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow">--Linda Skitka&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Sermon on the Mount,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll,&quot; The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans,&quot; (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow">--&quot;McCain counters Obama &#39;Arab&#39; question,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump: They&#39;re eating the dogs, the cats,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow">--&quot;New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis,&quot; from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow">--Lilliana Mason&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse and mark of Cain,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Curse of Ham,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A new measure of affective polarization,&quot; (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow">--Linda Skitka&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Sermon on the Mount,&quot; Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll,&quot; The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans,&quot; (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 14: Rough</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of homelessness, with philosopher Paul Schofield.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The necessity of guaranteed housing,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&smid=url-share" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump says &#39;Housing First&#39; failed the homeless. Here&#39;s what the evidence says,&quot; by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">--Law professor Danieli Evans&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow">--King&#39;s &quot;Letter from Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An inconvenient truth,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The necessity of guaranteed housing,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&smid=url-share" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump says &#39;Housing First&#39; failed the homeless. Here&#39;s what the evidence says,&quot; by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">--Law professor Danieli Evans&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow">--King&#39;s &quot;Letter from Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An inconvenient truth,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The necessity of guaranteed housing,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&smid=url-share" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Trump says &#39;Housing First&#39; failed the homeless. Here&#39;s what the evidence says,&quot; by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">--Law professor Danieli Evans&#39;s website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow">--King&#39;s &quot;Letter from Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An inconvenient truth,&quot; by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 13: Exile</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of belonging, ostracism, and the law, with law professor Danieli Evans. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people&#39;s experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., &quot;The Other America,&quot; 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Fourteenth Amendment,&quot; at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Institutionalized ostracism,&quot; by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The new Equal Protection,&quot; by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism,&quot; by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection,&quot; by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here,&quot; by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people&#39;s experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., &quot;The Other America,&quot; 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Fourteenth Amendment,&quot; at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Institutionalized ostracism,&quot; by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The new Equal Protection,&quot; by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism,&quot; by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection,&quot; by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here,&quot; by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people&#39;s experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., &quot;The Other America,&quot; 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Fourteenth Amendment,&quot; at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Institutionalized ostracism,&quot; by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The new Equal Protection,&quot; by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism,&quot; by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection,&quot; by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here,&quot; by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Imprecation,&quot; by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 12: This Land Is Your Land</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of birthright citizenship and injunctions, with law professor Jacob Hamburger.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:11:10</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow">&quot;Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage,&quot; video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow">President Trump&#39;s executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow">&quot;The consequences of ending birthright citizenship,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck&#39;s &quot;One First&quot; <em>Substack</em> (&quot;On the docket&quot; section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow">&quot;Statewide injunctions,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&div=26&g_sent=1&casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&collection=journals" rel="nofollow">&quot;The rise of the &#39;immigrant-as-injury&#39; theory of state standing,&quot; by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>birthright citizenship, citizenship, immigration, injunctions, constitutional law</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow">&quot;Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage,&quot; video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow">President Trump&#39;s executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow">&quot;The consequences of ending birthright citizenship,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck&#39;s &quot;One First&quot; <em>Substack</em> (&quot;On the docket&quot; section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow">&quot;Statewide injunctions,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&div=26&g_sent=1&casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&collection=journals" rel="nofollow">&quot;The rise of the &#39;immigrant-as-injury&#39; theory of state standing,&quot; by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow">&quot;Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage,&quot; video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow">President Trump&#39;s executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow">&quot;The consequences of ending birthright citizenship,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck&#39;s &quot;One First&quot; <em>Substack</em> (&quot;On the docket&quot; section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow">&quot;Statewide injunctions,&quot; by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&div=26&g_sent=1&casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&collection=journals" rel="nofollow">&quot;The rise of the &#39;immigrant-as-injury&#39; theory of state standing,&quot; by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 11: Tatter Archives: "Slurred Speech"</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>I'm pulling an episode from the archives of my previous podcast, Tatter. This is a discussion of slurs--especially gendered slurs, as well as racial and ethnic slurs--with philosopher Lauren Ashwell. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow">--Lauren Ashwell&#39;s personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Gendered Slurs,&quot; by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;CNN&#39;s Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air,&quot; by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow">--Myisha Cherry&#39;s interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow">--Luvell Anderson&#39;s Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Kreayshawn&#39;s White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word,&quot; by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A History of Outrage Over the Word &#39;Pākehā&#39;,&quot; by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;SlutWalks Sweep The Nation,&quot; by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers,&quot; contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Is The Word &#39;Queer&#39; Offensive? Here&#39;s A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community,&quot; by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow">--Lauren Ashwell&#39;s personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Gendered Slurs,&quot; by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;CNN&#39;s Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air,&quot; by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow">--Myisha Cherry&#39;s interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow">--Luvell Anderson&#39;s Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Kreayshawn&#39;s White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word,&quot; by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A History of Outrage Over the Word &#39;Pākehā&#39;,&quot; by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;SlutWalks Sweep The Nation,&quot; by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers,&quot; contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Is The Word &#39;Queer&#39; Offensive? Here&#39;s A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community,&quot; by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow">--Lauren Ashwell&#39;s personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Gendered Slurs,&quot; by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;CNN&#39;s Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air,&quot; by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow">--Myisha Cherry&#39;s interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow">--Luvell Anderson&#39;s Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Kreayshawn&#39;s White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word,&quot; by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;A History of Outrage Over the Word &#39;Pākehā&#39;,&quot; by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;SlutWalks Sweep The Nation,&quot; by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers,&quot; contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Is The Word &#39;Queer&#39; Offensive? Here&#39;s A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community,&quot; by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 10: The Cloth of Protection</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow">--AAUP&#39;s 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 9: Triggered</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with social psychologist Gerald Higginbotham about race and gun rights.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow">--Ronald Reagan&#39;s 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol&quot; (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment&quot; (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>race, gun rights, Second Amendment, politics, NRA</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow">--Ronald Reagan&#39;s 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol&quot; (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment&quot; (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow">--Ronald Reagan&#39;s 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol&quot; (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment&quot; (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" role="guest">Gerald Higginbotham</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 8: Unreconstructed</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with political scientist Julia Azari about three racially transformative presidents, and their backlash successors.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She&#39;s the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow">--President Johnson&#39;s remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Bill Clinton on being called &#39;first Black president&#39;: &#39;I took it as a great compliment&#39;&quot; (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow">--&quot;&#39;George Bush doesn&#39;t care about Black people&#39; 20 years later&quot; (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination&quot; (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>presidents, U.S. politics, race, hierarchy, backlash</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She&#39;s the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow">--President Johnson&#39;s remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Bill Clinton on being called &#39;first Black president&#39;: &#39;I took it as a great compliment&#39;&quot; (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow">--&quot;&#39;George Bush doesn&#39;t care about Black people&#39; 20 years later&quot; (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination&quot; (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She&#39;s the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow">--President Johnson&#39;s remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Bill Clinton on being called &#39;first Black president&#39;: &#39;I took it as a great compliment&#39;&quot; (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow">--&quot;&#39;George Bush doesn&#39;t care about Black people&#39; 20 years later&quot; (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination&quot; (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 7: But What About Us?</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion with social psychologist Clara Wilkins, about her research on perceptions of victimization among members of dominant groups.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:12</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members&#39; perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Exclusive: Trump says &quot;anti-White feeling&quot; is a problem in the U.S.&quot; (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious &#39;Nones&#39; are now the largest single group in the U.S.&quot; (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on the &quot;tradwife&quot; phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Just Theory&quot; (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Electric Silence,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>race, religion, #metoo, gender, hierarchy</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members&#39; perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Exclusive: Trump says &quot;anti-White feeling&quot; is a problem in the U.S.&quot; (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious &#39;Nones&#39; are now the largest single group in the U.S.&quot; (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on the &quot;tradwife&quot; phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Just Theory&quot; (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Electric Silence,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members&#39; perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Exclusive: Trump says &quot;anti-White feeling&quot; is a problem in the U.S.&quot; (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious &#39;Nones&#39; are now the largest single group in the U.S.&quot; (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on the &quot;tradwife&quot; phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Just Theory&quot; (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Electric Silence,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Pleasure,&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" role="guest">Clara Wilkins</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 6: City of God</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation about Christian nationalism, with sociologist Samuel Perry.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:28</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Christian nationalism we need&quot; (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;What is Christian nationalism, exactly?&quot; (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities,&quot; by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God&quot; (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in&quot; (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Christian nationalism, Christianity, politics, race, religion, identity</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Christian nationalism we need&quot; (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;What is Christian nationalism, exactly?&quot; (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities,&quot; by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God&quot; (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in&quot; (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Christian nationalism we need&quot; (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;What is Christian nationalism, exactly?&quot; (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities,&quot; by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God&quot; (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in&quot; (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 5: Drawn Out</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with legal expert David Gans, focusing on voting rights and redistricting.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation,&quot; SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case&quot;, by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow">--&quot;How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>,&quot; League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump,&quot; by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>voting rights, race, redistricting, politics, 14th Amendment, 15th Amendment</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation,&quot; SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case&quot;, by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow">--&quot;How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>,&quot; League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump,&quot; by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation,&quot; SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case&quot;, by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow">--&quot;How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>,&quot; League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump,&quot; by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Anti-Chill,&quot; by Jangwa<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Cello,&quot; by Ketsa<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 4: Here Be Dragons</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with Kim Rios, about intergroup threat, and more.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Fairness is Overrated,&quot; by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The World&#39;s Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society,&quot; by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>intergroup relations, Islam, religion, science, STEM, politics</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Fairness is Overrated,&quot; by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The World&#39;s Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society,&quot; by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Fairness is Overrated,&quot; by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The World&#39;s Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society,&quot; by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Breath,&quot; by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone,&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 3: Equals Under The Law</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with law professor Paul Gowder, about the rule of law in the U.S.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He&#39;s the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&qid=1754075495&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans&#39; civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow">--President Trump&#39;s May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC&#39;s <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow">--PBS Frontline documentary &quot;Trump&#39;s Power &amp; The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.&#39;s &quot;Letter from a Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow">--Lord Bingham&#39;s Sir David Williams Lecture: &quot;The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the Past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He&#39;s the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&qid=1754075495&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans&#39; civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow">--President Trump&#39;s May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC&#39;s <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow">--PBS Frontline documentary &quot;Trump&#39;s Power &amp; The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.&#39;s &quot;Letter from a Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow">--Lord Bingham&#39;s Sir David Williams Lecture: &quot;The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the Past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He&#39;s the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&dib_tag=se&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&qid=1754075495&sr=1-1" rel="nofollow">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans&#39; civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow">--President Trump&#39;s May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC&#39;s <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow">--PBS Frontline documentary &quot;Trump&#39;s Power &amp; The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.&#39;s &quot;Letter from a Birmingham Jail&quot;</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow">--Lord Bingham&#39;s Sir David Williams Lecture: &quot;The Rule of Law&quot;</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the Past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 2: Forever In The Path</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with scholar Art Remillard, about civil religion in the U.S.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Civil Religion in America,&quot; by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention,&quot; by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same,&quot; by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Pleasure&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Civil Religion in America,&quot; by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention,&quot; by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same,&quot; by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Pleasure&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Civil Religion in America,&quot; by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow">--&quot;The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention,&quot; by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same,&quot; by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--&quot;Pleasure&quot; by Haunted Me<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Post Drone&quot; by Uuriter<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 1: God, Grace, and Grudges</title>
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      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder&#39;s Word&quot; (Interview on NPR&#39;s <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe&quot; (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder&#39;s Word&quot; (Interview on NPR&#39;s <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe&quot; (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder&#39;s Word&quot; (Interview on NPR&#39;s <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow">--&quot;Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe&quot; (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the &quot;cc by&quot; license)</strong><br>
--&quot;The Trail,&quot; by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--&quot;Funky End,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Caress me to sleep,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Monsters of the past,&quot; by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--&quot;Precisamos de um plano,&quot; by rui<br>
--&quot;Light Lab,&quot; by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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