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    <description>Much of what gives life meaning, continuity, and order is the act of setting boundaries. Much of what gives you a clear sense of who and what you are is a clear sense of who and what you're not. This is a podcast about drawing such lines. It's about the processes involved in setting and maintaining boundaries, but also stretching and crossing them. We explore questions about boundaries and identity in three areas: religion, foreign policy, and constitutional law.</description>
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      <title>Episode 18: Political Animals</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with political scientist Rose McDermott, about evolutionary theory, prospect theory, and smell, and their connections to politics.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://home.watson.brown.edu/people/faculty/watson-faculty/rose-mcdermott" rel="nofollow noopener">Rose McDermott</a> is the David and Marianna Fisher University Professor of International Relations at The Watson School of International and Public Affairs, at Brown University. She’s also a Fellow in the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. McDermott studies a variety of topics, including international relations, nuclear  strategy, gender, the role of emotion in decision-making, and genetic contributions to political attitudes and behaviors.</p>

<p>We discuss a range of topics, including (a) whether her work is more psychological political science or political psychology, (b) what her work has to say about the Russia-Ukraine war, and (c) what smell has to do with politics.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/volodymyrzelenskyunga2025.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Volodymr Zelenskyy's 2025 address to the UN General Assemply (transcript and video)</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajps.12133" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Assortative mating on ideology could operate through olfactory cues," (2014) by Rose McDermott, Dustin Tingley, &amp; Peter K. Hatemi, in the American Journal of Political Science</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Tversky" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Amos Tversky</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jervis" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Robert Jervis</a><br>
<a href="https://heb.fas.harvard.edu/people/richard-w-wrangham" rel="nofollow noopener">--Richard Wrangham's Harvard online bio</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-07900-8.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Drivers of female power in bonobos," (2025) by Martin Surbeck et al., in <em>Communications Biology</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife"</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Afrikaans," by C. Scott<br>
--"Belview," by C. Scott<br>
--"Determinate," by C. Scott</p><p>Special Guest: Rose McDermott.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://home.watson.brown.edu/people/faculty/watson-faculty/rose-mcdermott" rel="nofollow noopener">Rose McDermott</a> is the David and Marianna Fisher University Professor of International Relations at The Watson School of International and Public Affairs, at Brown University. She’s also a Fellow in the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. McDermott studies a variety of topics, including international relations, nuclear  strategy, gender, the role of emotion in decision-making, and genetic contributions to political attitudes and behaviors.</p>

<p>We discuss a range of topics, including (a) whether her work is more psychological political science or political psychology, (b) what her work has to say about the Russia-Ukraine war, and (c) what smell has to do with politics.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/volodymyrzelenskyunga2025.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Volodymr Zelenskyy's 2025 address to the UN General Assemply (transcript and video)</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajps.12133" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Assortative mating on ideology could operate through olfactory cues," (2014) by Rose McDermott, Dustin Tingley, &amp; Peter K. Hatemi, in the American Journal of Political Science</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Tversky" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Amos Tversky</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jervis" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Robert Jervis</a><br>
<a href="https://heb.fas.harvard.edu/people/richard-w-wrangham" rel="nofollow noopener">--Richard Wrangham's Harvard online bio</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-07900-8.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Drivers of female power in bonobos," (2025) by Martin Surbeck et al., in <em>Communications Biology</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife"</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Afrikaans," by C. Scott<br>
--"Belview," by C. Scott<br>
--"Determinate," by C. Scott</p><p>Special Guest: Rose McDermott.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://home.watson.brown.edu/people/faculty/watson-faculty/rose-mcdermott" rel="nofollow noopener">Rose McDermott</a> is the David and Marianna Fisher University Professor of International Relations at The Watson School of International and Public Affairs, at Brown University. She’s also a Fellow in the American Academy of Arts and Sciences. McDermott studies a variety of topics, including international relations, nuclear  strategy, gender, the role of emotion in decision-making, and genetic contributions to political attitudes and behaviors.</p>

<p>We discuss a range of topics, including (a) whether her work is more psychological political science or political psychology, (b) what her work has to say about the Russia-Ukraine war, and (c) what smell has to do with politics.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/volodymyrzelenskyunga2025.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Volodymr Zelenskyy's 2025 address to the UN General Assemply (transcript and video)</a><br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/ajps.12133" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Assortative mating on ideology could operate through olfactory cues," (2014) by Rose McDermott, Dustin Tingley, &amp; Peter K. Hatemi, in the American Journal of Political Science</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_Tversky" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Amos Tversky</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Jervis" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Robert Jervis</a><br>
<a href="https://heb.fas.harvard.edu/people/richard-w-wrangham" rel="nofollow noopener">--Richard Wrangham's Harvard online bio</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s42003-025-07900-8.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Drivers of female power in bonobos," (2025) by Martin Surbeck et al., in <em>Communications Biology</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife"</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Afrikaans," by C. Scott<br>
--"Belview," by C. Scott<br>
--"Determinate," by C. Scott</p><p>Special Guest: Rose McDermott.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 17: Entangled: Race, Politics, and Post-Callais America</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2026 16:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Law professors Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen join me to discuss voting rights, especially after the Supreme Court's decision in Louisiana v. Callais.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court's <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow noopener">--"House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D)," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism," (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation," (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow noopener">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Funky end," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>race, politics, partisanship, Supreme Court, racially polarized voting, racism</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court's <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow noopener">--"House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D)," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism," (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation," (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow noopener">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Funky end," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guy-Uriel Charles is the Charles J. Ogletree Jr. Professor of Law at Harvard Law School, where he also directs the Charles Hamilton Institute for Race and Justice. Along with a coauthor, he’s also working on a book  that focuses on the past and future of voting rights. He was appointed by President Joe Biden to the Presidential Commission on the Supreme Court of the United States. </p>

<p>Rick Hasen is Gary T. Schwartz Distinguished Professor of Law at the UCLA School of Law, and he also directs the Safeguarding Democracy Project. He is an expert on election law, and is the author of A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy.</p>

<p>We discuss Section 2 of the Voting Rights, and the aftermath of the Supreme Court's <em>Louisiana v. Callais</em> decision.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtube.com/shorts/HpofcvGWDRM?si=_88vqM9gBmwjuZ3m" rel="nofollow noopener">--"House Majority Leader William Lamberth cannot answer several questions from Rep. Jesse Chism (D)," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/25pdf/24-109_21o3.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Louisiana v. Callais (et al.)</em>, Supreme Court opinion, decided April 29, 2026</a><br>
<a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/640d6616cc8bbb354ff6ba65/t/644b5301ecffe743e1cd0def/1682658049842/5.5-Charles-Fuentes-Rohwer-postEIC.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Pathological racism, chronic racism, &amp; targeted universalism," (2021) by Guy-Uriel Charles and Luis Fuentes Rohwer, in the <em>California Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/frontmatter/071552BA7C5D4EF9BB161A7B1BAC95AC" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, (1999) by Jim Sidanius &amp; Felicia Pratto, Cambridge University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rucho_v._Common_Cause" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of <em>Rucho v. Common Cause</em></a><br>
<a href="https://yalelawjournal.org/essay/callais-confusion-power-sharing-and-the-inevitability-of-proportional-representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Callais confusion, power-sharing, and the inevitability of proportional representation," (2026) by Guy-Uriel E. Charles, Luis Fuentes-Rohwer, Michael Latner &amp; Carlos Algara, in the <em>Yale Law Journal</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia summary of proportional representation</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691257716/a-real-right-to-vote" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>A Real Right to Vote: How a Constitutional Amendment Can Safeguard American Democracy</em>, (2024) by Rick Hasen, Princeton University Press</a><br>
<a href="https://law.ucla.edu/academics/centers/safeguarding-democracy-project" rel="nofollow noopener">--the Safeguarding Democracy Project website</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Funky end," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Guy-Uriel Charles and Rick Hasen.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 16: Threading the Needle</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2026 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Brandon Yoder and I discuss relations between China and Taiwan.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Wen and Bush in Oval office," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Obama tells Trump to 'think it through' on China," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Biden reaffirms 'One China Policy' after talks with Xi | ANC," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence," (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip," (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say," (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>China, Taiwan, United States, deterrence, international relations</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Wen and Bush in Oval office," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Obama tells Trump to 'think it through' on China," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Biden reaffirms 'One China Policy' after talks with Xi | ANC," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence," (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip," (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say," (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Brandon Yoder is Senior Lecturer at the Australian National University. He holds a Ph.D. in foreign affairs from the University of Virginia. He studies a range of topics, including foreign policy, international security, US-China relations, and signaling and credibility. He’s the author of a 2025 article in the British Journal of Politics and International Relations, titled, “Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence.” Yoder and I discuss stability in the relations between China and Taiwan.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/G6A1VeODsag?si=yYAXEeZnCjdeRNvD" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Wen and Bush in Oval office," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/7To87jP4hbI?si=6omh69YOgdVNCDeI" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Obama tells Trump to 'think it through' on China," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/n1bmbkymcrI?si=olk-7h26nNUgzRya" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Biden reaffirms 'One China Policy' after talks with Xi | ANC," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/13691481251391641" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Will there be war over Taiwan? Structural stability and policy pitfalls in cross-Strait deterrence," (2025) by Yoder, in <em>The British Journal of Politics and International Relations</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.foreignaffairs.com/taiwan/taiwan-tightrope-mastro" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Taiwan tightrope: Deterrence Is a balancing act, and America is starting to slip," (2025) by Mastro and Yoder, in <em>Foreign Affairs</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/iran-war-complicates-contingency-plans-to-defend-taiwan-some-u-s-officials-say-4384f7c1" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Iran war complicates contingency plans to defend Taiwan, some U.S. officials say," (2025, April 23) by Ward et al., in <em>The Wall Street Journal</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk</p><p>Special Guest: Brandon Yoder.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 15: Decline and Fall</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2026 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion with two political scientists about how we in the U.S. got here, and what change might require.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow noopener">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow noopener">--"McCain counters Obama 'Arab' question," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump: They're eating the dogs, the cats," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow noopener">--"New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lilliana Mason's website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse and mark of Cain," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse of Ham," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A new measure of affective polarization," (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow noopener">--Linda Skitka's website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Sermon on the Mount," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll," The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans," (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>politics, identity, ideology, Trump, partisanship, religion</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow noopener">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow noopener">--"McCain counters Obama 'Arab' question," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump: They're eating the dogs, the cats," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow noopener">--"New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lilliana Mason's website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse and mark of Cain," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse of Ham," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A new measure of affective polarization," (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow noopener">--Linda Skitka's website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Sermon on the Mount," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll," The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans," (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" rel="nofollow noopener">Chris Federico</a> is Professor of Political Science and Psychology at the University of Minnesota and the Arleen C. Carlson Professor of American Government and Politics. He’s also past president of the International Society of Political Psychology. <a href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Eric McDaniel</a> is a Professor in the Department of Government at the University of Texas at Austin, and author of two books, <a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/everyday-crusade/34A0EF92928EB4E3AC25B014B6DF0FFC" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>The Everyday Crusade: Religious Nationalism in American Politics</em></a>, as well as <a href="https://press.umich.edu/Books/P/Politics-in-the-Pews2" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Politics in the Pews: The Political Mobilization of Black Churches</em></a>. The three of us discussed the background leading up to this moment in U.S. history, and what it might take for change to occur.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/jrnRU3ocIH4?si=LCgoNz8HbdG_9IXZ" rel="nofollow noopener">--"McCain counters Obama 'Arab' question," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5llMaZ80ErY?si=nCYEDGsfGxkvepx3" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump: They're eating the dogs, the cats," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/wBi_c_unAdI?si=rWf76XJQE6feST7S" rel="nofollow noopener">--"New angle shows moment federal agents shoot Alex Pretti in Minneapolis," from YouTube</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lillianamason.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lilliana Mason's website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/social-dominance/ADA29C256881001463D6E2777404DB95" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Social dominance</em>, by Sidanius and Pratto</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_and_mark_of_Cain" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse and mark of Cain," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_Ham" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Curse of Ham," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/american-political-science-review/article/new-measure-of-affective-polarization/DEF7FCC26D4F09BDE5603BCC02B4765D" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A new measure of affective polarization," (in press) by Campos and Federico, in the <em>American Political Science Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/view/lindaskitka" rel="nofollow noopener">--Linda Skitka's website</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mount" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Sermon on the Mount," Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5715767-jasmine-crockett-james-talarico-texas-primary-poll/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Crockett, Talarico locked in dead heat in Texas Senate primary: Poll," The Hill</a><br>
<a href="https://research.ebsco.com/c/fc2myp/search/results" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Polarized attitudes and anti-democratic attitudes: Robust evidence for paradoxical relationaships among American partisans," (2025) by Malka et al. in <em>Political Studies</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guests: Christopher Federico and Eric McDaniel.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://cla.umn.edu/about/directory/profile/federico" role="guest">Christopher Federico</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://drericlmcdaniel.com/" role="guest">Eric McDaniel</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 14: Rough</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/14</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of homelessness, with philosopher Paul Schofield.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:08</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow noopener">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The necessity of guaranteed housing," by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&amp;smid=url-share" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump says 'Housing First' failed the homeless. Here's what the evidence says," by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">--Law professor Danieli Evans's website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy," by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An inconvenient truth," by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>homelessness, philosophy, democracy, community</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow noopener">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The necessity of guaranteed housing," by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&amp;smid=url-share" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump says 'Housing First' failed the homeless. Here's what the evidence says," by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">--Law professor Danieli Evans's website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy," by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An inconvenient truth," by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.paulschofieldphilosophy.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Schofield</a> is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bates College. His areas of speciality are ethics, political philosophy, and the philosophy of film. He teaches a range of courses, including Capitalism and Its Critics; Wellbeing and the Good Life; and Human Natura, Morality &amp; Politics. Much of his recent public-facing writing has focused on the problem of homelessness.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/sV0SCOvEbdY?si=O5TpEZYnQalRxbXI" rel="nofollow noopener">--YouTube video of Rally for Housing and Services to End Homelessness</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/324265/tell-them-who-i-am-by-elliot-liebow/" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Tell Them Who I Am: The Lives of Homeless Women</em>, by Elliot Liebow (1995)</a><br>
<a href="https://blog.apaonline.org/2022/04/18/the-necessity-of-guaranteed-housing/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The necessity of guaranteed housing," by Paul Schofield (2022), <em>Blog of the American Philosophical Association</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/against-empathy-paul-bloom?variant=32122194853922" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion</em>, by Paul Bloom (2018)</a><br>
<a href="https://hatc.org/collaborative-housing/quixote-village/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Quixote Village website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/25/us/trump-housing-first.html?unlocked_article_code=1.A1A.SBDQ.F739ttC3wXJM&amp;smid=url-share" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Trump says 'Housing First' failed the homeless. Here's what the evidence says," by Jason DeParle (2025), <em>New York Times</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">--Law professor Danieli Evans's website</a><br>
<a href="https://jacobin.com/2025/07/homelessness-crisis-democracy-olympia-dehumanization" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The homelessness crisis is a crisis of democracy," by Paul Schofield (2025), <em>Jacobin</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.csuchico.edu/iege/_assets/documents/susi-letter-from-birmingham-jail.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/08/homelessness-homeless-shelter-sex.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An inconvenient truth," by Paul Schofield (2023), <em>Slate</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Schofield.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 13: Exile</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of belonging, ostracism, and the law, with law professor Danieli Evans. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:06:25</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people's experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "The Other America," 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Fourteenth Amendment," at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Institutionalized ostracism," by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The new Equal Protection," by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism," by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection," by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here," by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>race, racism, discrimination, 14th Amendment, ostracism, cyberball</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people's experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "The Other America," 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Fourteenth Amendment," at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Institutionalized ostracism," by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The new Equal Protection," by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism," by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection," by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here," by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" rel="nofollow noopener">Danieli Evans</a> is Assistant Professor of Law at the University of Washington School of Law. She holds a J.D. from Yale Law School, and later earned a Ph.D. from Yale Law, completing a dissertation titled, “Belonging, Equality, and the Law.” Her work investigates how people's experiences with government institutions influence their sense of belonging, and how levels of belonging influence their wellbeing and social opportunities.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.crmvet.org/docs/otheram.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., "The Other America," 1967 speech at Stanford University</a><br>
<a href="https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-14/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Fourteenth Amendment," at Constitution Annotated: Analysis and Interpretation of the U.S. Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott_v._Sandford" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Dred Scott v. Sandford</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://www3.psych.purdue.edu/%7Ewillia55/Announce/cyberball.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--The <em>Cyberball</em> game (hosted at Purdue University)</a><br>
<a href="https://digitalcommons.law.uw.edu/faculty-articles/1123/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Institutionalized ostracism," by Danieli Evans (2025), <em>Michigan Journal of Race and Law</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plyler_v._Doe" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Plyler v. Doe</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
<a href="https://harvardlawreview.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/vol124_yoshino.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The new Equal Protection," by Kenji Yoshino (2011), <em>Harvard Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674196377" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Democracy and distrust: A Theory of judicial review</em> (1980), by John Hart Ely</a><br>
<a href="https://scholarspace.manoa.hawaii.edu/server/api/core/bitstreams/6215b235-022e-4e14-b39b-55b996cd0805/content" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The id, the ego, and equal protection: Reckoning with unconscious racism," by Charles R. Lawrence III (1987), <em>Stanford Law Review</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/srep02027.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A quantitative meta-analysis of functional imaging studies of social rejection," by Stephanie Cacioppo et al. (2013), <em>Nature: Scientific Reports</em></a><br>
<a href="https://escholarship.org/content/qt0k84g6vn/qt0k84g6vn_noSplash_efa40dbab7bfa18ea502f7f075ea8f03.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Social pain and the brain: Controversies, questions, and where to go from here," by Naomi I. Eisenberger (2015) <em>Annual Review of Psychology</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Imprecation," by Kevin Hartnell<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Danieli Evans.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.law.uw.edu/directory/faculty/evans-danieli" role="guest">Danieli Evans</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 12: This Land Is Your Land</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/12</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of birthright citizenship and injunctions, with law professor Jacob Hamburger.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow noopener">"Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage," video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow noopener">President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow noopener">"The consequences of ending birthright citizenship," by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow noopener">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck's "One First" <em>Substack</em> ("On the docket" section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow noopener">"Statewide injunctions," by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&amp;div=26&amp;g_sent=1&amp;casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&amp;collection=journals" rel="nofollow noopener">"The rise of the 'immigrant-as-injury' theory of state standing," by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>birthright citizenship, citizenship, immigration, injunctions, constitutional law</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow noopener">"Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage," video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow noopener">President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow noopener">"The consequences of ending birthright citizenship," by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow noopener">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck's "One First" <em>Substack</em> ("On the docket" section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow noopener">"Statewide injunctions," by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&amp;div=26&amp;g_sent=1&amp;casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&amp;collection=journals" rel="nofollow noopener">"The rise of the 'immigrant-as-injury' theory of state standing," by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this conversation, we discuss the history of birthright citizenship in the U.S., as well as the current controversy, including the role of the courts, especially the Supreme Court. My guest is <a href="https://jacob-hamburger.squarespace.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">Jacob Hamburger</a>. Hamburger is Assistant Professor of Law in the Marquette Law School. Previously, he taught at Cornell Law, and he earned his J.D. at the University of Chicago Law School. He teaches Immigration Law, Civil Procedure, and a seminar on Immigration Federalism. His research explores the legal processes at the federal, state, and local levels that shape the lives of noncitizens in the United States.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
--<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/video/jeb-bush-birthright-citizenship-is-part-of-our-global-heritage-509516867887" rel="nofollow noopener">"Jeb Bush: Birthright citizenship is part of our global [sic] heritage," video clip from NBC News</a><br>
--<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/" rel="nofollow noopener">President Trump's executive order on birthright citizenship</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>United States v. Wong Kim Ark</em> Wikipedia entry</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5106022" rel="nofollow noopener">"The consequences of ending birthright citizenship," by Jacob Hamburger, in the Washington University Law Review</a><br>
--<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Jus soli</em></a> vs. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>jus sanguinis</em></a> (Wiki entries)<br>
--<a href="https://www.stevevladeck.com/i/180843145/on-the-docket" rel="nofollow noopener">December 8, 2025 edition of Steve Vladeck's "One First" <em>Substack</em> ("On the docket" section)</a><br>
--<a href="https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5463935" rel="nofollow noopener">"Statewide injunctions," by Jacob Hamburger, work in progress</a><br>
--<a href="https://heinonline.org/HOL/Page?handle=hein.journals/aulr72&amp;div=26&amp;g_sent=1&amp;casa_token=2JnUWN8DHM4AAAAA:Q4P8lGHEjFEeEV2PQczt-Ry88LuAGYmRFHYDE9Jk9RXGSYA3Jl_SaW4QHdxf3UdPgsdIIgc&amp;collection=journals" rel="nofollow noopener">"The rise of the 'immigrant-as-injury' theory of state standing," by Jennifer Lee Koh, in the <em>American University Law Review</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Jacob Hamburger.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 11: Tatter Archives: "Slurred Speech"</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>I'm pulling an episode from the archives of my previous podcast, Tatter. This is a discussion of slurs--especially gendered slurs, as well as racial and ethnic slurs--with philosopher Lauren Ashwell. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:27:15</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lauren Ashwell's personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Gendered Slurs," by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"CNN's Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air," by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow noopener">--Myisha Cherry's interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Luvell Anderson's Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Kreayshawn's White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word," by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A History of Outrage Over the Word 'Pākehā'," by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"SlutWalks Sweep The Nation," by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers," contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Is The Word 'Queer' Offensive? Here's A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community," by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>slurs, racist slurs, gendered slurs, philosophy</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lauren Ashwell's personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Gendered Slurs," by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"CNN's Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air," by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow noopener">--Myisha Cherry's interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Luvell Anderson's Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Kreayshawn's White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word," by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A History of Outrage Over the Word 'Pākehā'," by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"SlutWalks Sweep The Nation," by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers," contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Is The Word 'Queer' Offensive? Here's A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community," by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>ABOUT THIS EPISODE</strong><br>
The utterance and writing of gendered and racial or ethnic slurs has often evoked controversy. My philosopher colleague Lauren Ashwell has taken up slurs as a subject of scholarly inquiry. In this episode, we sit for a 90-minute conversation about such issues as what makes a slur a slur, whether slurs can be reclaimed by members of the target group, and why the study of slurs matters. </p>

<p><strong>LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://sites.google.com/site/lashwell/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lauren Ashwell's personal website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/24871341.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Gendered Slurs," by Lauren Ashwell (requies JSTOR access)</a><br>
<a href="https://ew.com/article/2016/11/22/cnn-brooke-baldwin-guest-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"CNN's Brooke Baldwin Chastises Trump Critic For Using N-Word On The Air," by Oliver Gettell, Entertainment Weekly </a><br>
<a href="http://www.unmutepodcast.co/season-2/4252016/episode-014-luvell-anderson-on-slurs" rel="nofollow noopener">--Myisha Cherry's interview with Luvell Anderson, about slurs, on The Unmute Podcast</a><br>
<a href="http://thecollege.syr.edu/people/faculty/pages/phi/anderson-luvell.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Luvell Anderson's Syracuse profile</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spin.com/2011/08/kreayshawns-white-girl-mob-n-word/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Kreayshawn's White Girl Mob &amp; The N-Word," by Brandon Soderberg, Spin</a><br>
<a href="https://thespinoff.co.nz/atea/03-03-2018/a-history-of-outrage-over-the-word-pakeha/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"A History of Outrage Over the Word 'Pākehā'," by Branko Macetic, The Spinoff</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Nigger-Strange-Career-Troublesome-Word/dp/0375713719" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>nigger: The Strange Career of a Troublesome Word</em>, by Randall Kennedy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/slutwalk-united-states-city_n_851725.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"SlutWalks Sweep The Nation," by Laura Stampler, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan-brison/slutwalk-black-women_b_980215.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"An Open Letter from Black Women to SlutWalk Organizers," contributed by Susan Brison, HuffPost</a><br>
<a href="https://www.bustle.com/articles/139727-is-the-word-queer-offensive-heres-a-look-at-its-history-in-the-lgbtqa-community" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Is The Word 'Queer' Offensive? Here's A Look At Its History In The LGBTQA+ Community," by Marissa Higgins, Bustle</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Down-Girl-Misogyny-Kate-Manne/dp/0190604980" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Down Girl</em>: The Logic of Misogyny, by Kate Manne</a></p><p>Special Guest: Lauren Ashwell.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.bates.edu/philosophy/faculty/lauren-ashwell/" role="guest">Lauren Ashwell</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 10: The Cloth of Protection</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/10</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2025 05:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion of academic freedom with law professor David Rabban.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>57:45</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow noopener">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>academic freedom, free speech, law</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow noopener">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode features a discussion of academic freedom with <a href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Rabban</a>, the Dahr Jamail, Randall Hage Jamail, and Robert Lee Jamail Regents Chair in Law, and Distinguished Teaching Professor in the University of Texas at Austin School of Law. Previously, he served as counsel, and then general counsel, to the AAUP (American Association of University Professors), and he has chaired its committee on academic freedom and tenure. In his teaching and research, he focuses on free speech, academic freedom, higher education and the law, and American legal history. His most recent book (published in 2024) is <a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674291058" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Academic Freedom: From Professional Norm to First Amendment Right</em></a>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/Z0O9abefZp8?si=0E_d2_OUbDn5CtLK" rel="nofollow noopener">--CBS News interview with MIT professor Alan Lightman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Homepage for the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) website</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/NR/rdonlyres/A6520A9D-0A9A-47B3-B550-C006B5B224E7/0/1915Declaration.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1915 Declaration of Principles on Academic Freedom and Academic Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaup.org/sites/default/files/1940%20Statement.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--AAUP's 1940 Statement of Principles on Academic Freedom and Tenure</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg_v._Ohio" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on <em>Brandenburg v. Ohio</em></a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Rabban.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://law.utexas.edu/faculty/david-m-rabban/" role="guest">David Rabban</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 9: Triggered</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/9</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with social psychologist Gerald Higginbotham about race and gun rights.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>53:03</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow noopener">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow noopener">--Ronald Reagan's 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol" (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment" (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>race, gun rights, Second Amendment, politics, NRA</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow noopener">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow noopener">--Ronald Reagan's 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol" (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment" (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" rel="nofollow noopener">Gerald Higginbotham</a> is an assistant professor in the Frank Batten School of Leadership &amp; Public Policy at the University of Virginia. He holds a Ph.D. in social psychology from UCLA, and also a bachelor’s degree in psychology from Stanford University. He studies (in his words) “the imprint of history on people’s modern social perceptions and policy attitudes, and the psychological underpinnings of how people perceive history and its consequences.”</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/5-JoMVf_f4w?si=6FF_B6b_GxiJTuEX" rel="nofollow noopener">--Ronald Reagan's 1983 address before the National Rifle Association</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/lasting-legacy-black-panther-protest-california-capitol/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The lasting legacy of 1967 Black Panther gun control protest at California Capitol" (article at CBS News, by Steve Large)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ida_B._Wells" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Ida B. Wells-Barnett</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1002107670" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Historian uncovers the racist roots of the 2nd Amendment" (interview at National Public Radio)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Gerald Higginbotham.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://batten.virginia.edu/people/gerald-higginbotham" role="guest">Gerald Higginbotham</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 8: Unreconstructed</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/8</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with political scientist Julia Azari about three racially transformative presidents, and their backlash successors.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:20</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She's the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Johnson's remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Bill Clinton on being called 'first Black president': 'I took it as a great compliment'" (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow noopener">--"'George Bush doesn't care about Black people' 20 years later" (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination" (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>presidents, U.S. politics, race, hierarchy, backlash</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She's the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Johnson's remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Bill Clinton on being called 'first Black president': 'I took it as a great compliment'" (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow noopener">--"'George Bush doesn't care about Black people' 20 years later" (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination" (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Azari</a> is Professor of Political Science at Marquette University. She holds a Ph.D. in political science from Yale University, and she studies the American presidency, American political parties, political communication and American political development. She's the author of the 2014 book, <em>Delivering the People’s Message: The Changing Politics of the Presidential Mandate</em>. Her newest book (and the focus of this podast episode) is<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691246956/backlash-presidents" rel="nofollow noopener"> <em>Backlash Presidents: From Transformative to Reactionary Leaders in American History</em> </a>published in 2025.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.lbjlibrary.org/object/video/signing-civil-rights-act-1964" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Johnson's remarks on the signing of the Civil Rights Bill of 1964 (July 2, 1964)</a><br>
<a href="https://brightlinewatch.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Bright Line Watch</a><br>
<a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/race-politics/5004618-bill-clinton-first-black-president/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Bill Clinton on being called 'first Black president': 'I took it as a great compliment'" (article at The Hill, by Cheyanne M. Daniels)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2025/08/27/nx-s1-5517328/george-bush-doesnt-care-about-black-people-20-years-later" rel="nofollow noopener">--"'George Bush doesn't care about Black people' 20 years later" (NPR interview with Rodney Carmichael and Leah Donnella)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fainting_goat" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on fainting goats</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/" rel="nofollow noopener">--The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.vox.com/mischiefs-of-faction/2016/11/3/13512362/weak-parties-strong-partisanship-bad-combination" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Weak parties and strong partisanship are a bad combination" (article at Vox, by Julia Azari)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Julia Azari.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.marquette.edu/political-science/directory/julia-azari.php" role="guest">Julia Azari</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 7: But What About Us?</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/7</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A discussion with social psychologist Clara Wilkins, about her research on perceptions of victimization among members of dominant groups.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:12</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow noopener">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members' perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Exclusive: Trump says "anti-White feeling" is a problem in the U.S." (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious 'Nones' are now the largest single group in the U.S." (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife" phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Just Theory" (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Electric Silence," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>race, religion, #metoo, gender, hierarchy</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow noopener">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members' perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Exclusive: Trump says "anti-White feeling" is a problem in the U.S." (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious 'Nones' are now the largest single group in the U.S." (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife" phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Just Theory" (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Electric Silence," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" rel="nofollow noopener">Clara Wilkins</a> is Associate Professor and Earl R. Carlson Professor of Psychology at the University of Washington. Trained as a social psychologist, she leads the Social Perceptions and Intergroup Attiudes Lab (SPIA Lab). Along with her collaborators, she studies such topics as (a) the causes and consequences of dominant group members' perceptions of group-based victimization, and (b) how variation in racial and ethnic minorities’ physical appearance shapes the perceptions and experiences of disadvantaged group members.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.cbs.com/shows/video/bynkBl3ZDBB5aaDNgBhYshh8evD0GQz7/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Catherine Herridge 2020 interview of Donald Trump</a><br>
<a href="https://time.com/6972270/donald-trump-anti-white-bias-exclusive/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Exclusive: Trump says "anti-White feeling" is a problem in the U.S." (article at <em>Time Magazine</em>, by Nik Popli &amp; Eric Coretellessa)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/01/24/1226371734/religious-nones-are-now-the-largest-single-group-in-the-u-s" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious 'Nones' are now the largest single group in the U.S." (report at <em>National Public Radio</em>, by Jason DeRose)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on the "tradwife" phenomenon</a><br>
<a href="https://tatter.fireside.fm/38" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Just Theory" (podcast interview from <em>Tatter</em>, featuring John Jost and the late Jim Sidanius, interviewed by Michael Sargent)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Electric Silence," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Pleasure," by Haunted Me<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Clara Wilkins.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://depts.washington.edu/spia/" role="guest">Clara Wilkins</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 6: City of God</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/6</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation about Christian nationalism, with sociologist Samuel Perry.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:28</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow noopener">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Christian nationalism we need" (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"What is Christian nationalism, exactly?" (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities," by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God" (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in" (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>Christian nationalism, Christianity, politics, race, religion, identity</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow noopener">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Christian nationalism we need" (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"What is Christian nationalism, exactly?" (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities," by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God" (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in" (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" rel="nofollow noopener">Samuel Perry</a> is the Sam K. Viersen Presidential Professor of Sociology at the University of Oklahoma. He has authored or co-authored over 100 peer-reviewed academic journal articles, and has authored or co-authored five books, including <em>Taking America Back for God</em>, as well as <em>The Flag and the Cross</em>. He’s also written for such journalistic outlets as <em>The Dallas Morning News</em>, <em>Time Magazine</em>, and <em>The Washington Post</em>. In this episode, we discuss Christian nationalism in the U.S.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tgNbGxdDZ2I?si=AzLAlqiAp0LRRV47" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Christian nationalism we need" (Keynote address at the 2024 National Conservatism Conference, by Sen. Josh Hawley)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/opinion/christian-nationalism.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"What is Christian nationalism, exactly?" (essay at the <em>New York Times</em>, by David French)</a><br>
<a href="https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12166974/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"White or woke Christian nationalists? How race moderates the link between Christian nationalism and progressive identities," by Samuel Perry, Allyson Shortle, Eric McDaniel, and Joshua Grubbs</a><br>
<a href="https://bjconline.org/amanda-tyler/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Profile for Amanda Tyler at the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty (BJC)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.economist.com/united-states/2025/08/26/the-democrat-who-calls-trump-a-child-of-god" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Democrat who calls Trump a child of God" (article at <em>The Economist</em> about James Talarico)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2024/10/29/nx-s1-5165535/trump-christians-evangelical-harris-support" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Why are some Evangelicals drawn to--and stickying by--Trump? This pastor weighs in" (NPR interview of Pastro Chad Harvey, by Scott Detrow)</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Samuel Perry.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.ou.edu/cas/soc/people/faculty/samuel-perry" role="guest">Samuel Perry</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 5: Drawn Out</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/5</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/7e949d41-a059-48f0-aab7-e866d57683bb.mp3" length="24323792" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with legal expert David Gans, focusing on voting rights and redistricting.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:40</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation," SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case", by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow noopener">--"How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>," League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump," by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>voting rights, race, redistricting, politics, 14th Amendment, 15th Amendment</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation," SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case", by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow noopener">--"How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>," League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump," by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" rel="nofollow noopener">David Gans</a> is Director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights &amp; Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center. In this episode, we discussed voting rights and redistricting, with an emphasis on the Louisiana v. Callais case that is set to be reargued before the Supreme Court on October 15, 2025. </p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2022/21-1086" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Merrill v. Milligan</em> (later retitled <em>Allen v. Milligan</em>) oral argument</a><br>
<a href="https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/22pdf/21-1086_1co6.pdf" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Allen v. Milligan</em> opinion</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_Rights_Act_of_1965" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia on the Voting Rights Act of 1965</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/election-law-explainers/section-2-of-the-voting-rights-act-vote-dilution-and-vote-deprivation/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act: Vote dilution and vote deprivation," SCOTUSblog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/08/court-asks-for-new-briefs-in-louisiana-redistricting-case/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Court asks for new briefs in Louisiana redistricting case", by Amy Howe at <em>SCOTUSblog</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.lwv.org/blog/how-supreme-court-made-racial-gerrymandering-easier-alexander-v-south-carolina-naacp" rel="nofollow noopener">--"How the Supreme Court made racial gerrymandering easier in <em>Alexander v. South Carolina NAACP</em>," League of Women Voters Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/09/politics/ketanji-brown-jackson-leading-dissenter-trump-era" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson emerges as a leading dissenter in an era of Trump," by John Fritze, at CNN</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Anti-Chill," by Jangwa<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Cello," by Ketsa<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: David Gans.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Michael Sargent</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.theusconstitution.org/staff/david-h-gans/" role="guest">David Gans</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 4: Here Be Dragons</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/92d4f201-c679-4a52-8c80-a47e41397da4/95c1648b-7e0c-438a-b397-4ad630de0821.mp3" length="22511939" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with Kim Rios, about intergroup threat, and more.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:53</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow noopener">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow noopener">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow noopener">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Fairness is Overrated," by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society," by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>intergroup relations, Islam, religion, science, STEM, politics</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow noopener">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow noopener">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow noopener">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Fairness is Overrated," by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society," by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimberly Rios</a> is Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign. She studies intergroup threat and also psychological issues at the intersection of religion and STEM. In this episode, we discuss the psychology of intergroup threat, applications to a salient contemporary case, and also issues involving religion and STEM.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/iWG6rSVeETA?si=rqCeLG2iWScuVxXC" rel="nofollow noopener">--Informational video on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tXllDIZaRbs?si=Cr0uhJeSWiXFONLk" rel="nofollow noopener">--WFAA story on EPIC City</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_Liberally" rel="nofollow noopener">--Drinking Liberally, Wikipedia page</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thebulwark.com/p/fairness-is-overrated" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Fairness is Overrated," by Jonathan V. Last, at The Bulwark</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-science-and-popular-culture/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The World's Muslims: Religion, Politics, and Society," by the Pew Research Center</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Breath," by Kirk Osamayo<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone," by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Kimberly Rios.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://psychology.illinois.edu/directory/profile/kmrios" role="guest">Kimberly Rios</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 3: Equals Under The Law</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with law professor Paul Gowder, about the rule of law in the U.S.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>57:39</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He's the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&amp;qid=1754075495&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans' civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Trump's May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC's <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow noopener">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow noopener">--PBS Frontline documentary "Trump's Power &amp; The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Letter from a Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lord Bingham's Sir David Williams Lecture: "The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the Past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He's the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&amp;qid=1754075495&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans' civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Trump's May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC's <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow noopener">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow noopener">--PBS Frontline documentary "Trump's Power &amp; The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Letter from a Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lord Bingham's Sir David Williams Lecture: "The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the Past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://gowder.io/" rel="nofollow noopener">Paul Gowder</a> is Professor of Law at the Pritzker School of Law at Northwestern University, in Chicago. He's the author of several books, including <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-Real-World/dp/1316502023" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of the Law in the Real World</a></em>, and <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Rule-Law-United-States-Unfinished/dp/150995466X/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;dib_tag=se&amp;dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Z5S15r9vNr5ZhFUKb2yZsO_P_412lbt4K9eWnVuNI5blKNrg6Cx_G7BWJZPP8-VIOkpHN5SsxTp_m6t2hckM-6I6PeSFyq5ojHNT70CT1E8.13xS4XB_qDeoAPfN19RNZU6G7v_d960u2wjfaATyG9s&amp;qid=1754075495&amp;sr=1-1" rel="nofollow noopener">The Rule of Law in the United States: An Unfinished Project of Black Liberation</a></em>. In this episode, we discuss the history and current status of the rule of law in the U.S., exploring connections to the historic struggle for Black Americans' civil and human rights</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/tuPI1-Gp_5s?si=9pVLgo0NfKSJ0tF2" rel="nofollow noopener">--President Trump's May 4, 2025 appearance on NBC's <em>Meet the Press</em></a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Morgan_(slave)" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Margaret Morgan</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dred_Scott" rel="nofollow noopener">--Wikipedia entry on Dred Scott</a><br>
<a href="https://www.history.com/articles/fugitive-slave-acts" rel="nofollow noopener">--history.com page on the Fugitive Slave Acts of 1793 and 1850</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/28sQyweAPRs?si=0YFyuw8zMd4_769u" rel="nofollow noopener">--PBS Frontline documentary "Trump's Power &amp; The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.africa.upenn.edu/Articles_Gen/Letter_Birmingham.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s "Letter from a Birmingham Jail"</a><br>
<a href="http://netk.net.au/RuleOfLaw/Bingham1.asp" rel="nofollow noopener">--Lord Bingham's Sir David Williams Lecture: "The Rule of Law"</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583" rel="nofollow noopener">--<em>Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification</em>, by Timur Kuran</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Monsters of the Past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Paul Gowder.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 2: Forever In The Path</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/2</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with scholar Art Remillard, about civil religion in the U.S.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>58:56</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow noopener">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Civil Religion in America," by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention," by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same," by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Pleasure" by Haunted Me<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone" by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>civil religion, religion, government, United States</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow noopener">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Civil Religion in America," by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention," by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same," by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Pleasure" by Haunted Me<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone" by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.francis.edu/academics/faculty-directory/arthur-remillard" rel="nofollow noopener">Arthur Remillard</a> is Professor of Religious Studies and Department Chair of Theology and Philosophy, as well as Dean of STEAM (Science, Technology, Engingeering, Arts, and Mathematics) at Saint Francis University, in Loretto, Pennsylvania. He is author of the book <em>Southern Civil Religions</em>, as well as a new book, <em>Bodies in Motion: A Religious History of Sports in America</em>.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="http://www.robertbellah.com/articles_5.htm" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Civil Religion in America," by Robert N. Bellah</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/21/opinion/republican-convention-prayer.html" rel="nofollow noopener">--"The Meaning of Prayer at a Political Convention," by Esau McCaulley</a><br>
<a href="https://religionnews.com/2025/01/23/in-trump-we-have-abandoned-our-civil-religion-and-we-are-no-longer-the-same/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"In Trump, We Have Abandoned Our Civil Religion — And We Are No Longer The Same," by John D. Carlson</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant<br>
--"Pleasure" by Haunted Me<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Post Drone" by Uuriter<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui</p><p>Special Guest: Arthur Remillard.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.arthurremillard.com/about" role="guest">Arthur Remillard</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 1: God, Grace, and Grudges</title>
      <link>https://circumscription.fireside.fm/1</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2025 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>profsargent@gmail.com (Michael Sargent)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Michael Sargent</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>A conversation with Mikey Pasek, about religion, identity, and politics.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>55:31</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow noopener">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow noopener">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow noopener">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder's Word" (Interview on NPR's <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe" (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow noopener">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>religion, identity, race, politics, Christian nationalism</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow noopener">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow noopener">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow noopener">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder's Word" (Interview on NPR's <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe" (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow noopener">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://psch.uic.edu/profiles/pasek-michael/" rel="nofollow noopener">Mikey Pasek</a> is a social psychologist, and is an Assistant Professor of Psychology at the University of Illinois Chicago. He leads the <a href="https://bigr.psch.uic.edu/" rel="nofollow noopener">Belief, Identity, and Group Relations Lab</a> at UIC. We discussed a range of topics, including religion, big and moralizing gods, Christian nationalism, race, and how to alter anti-democratic attitudes.</p>

<p><strong>OTHER LINKS</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/eradicating-anti-christian-bias/" rel="nofollow noopener">--White House Executive Order: Eradicating Anti-Christian Bias</a><br>
<a href="https://beyondconflictint.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Beyond Conflict</a><br>
<a href="https://www.interfaithphiladelphia.org/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Interfaith Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/God-Not-Great-Religion-Everything/dp/0446697966" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--God Is Not Great</em>, by Christopher Hitchens</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691169743/big-gods" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>--Big Gods: How Religion Transformed Cooperation and Conflict</em>, by Ara Norenzayan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.splcenter.org/resources/extremist-files/westboro-baptist-church/" rel="nofollow noopener">--Southern Poverty Law Center Page on The Westboro Baptist Church</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2008/03/31/89236116/black-liberation-theology-in-its-founders-words" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Black Liberation Theology, in its Founder's Word" (Interview on NPR's <em>Fresh Air</em>)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/religious-nones-in-america-who-they-are-and-what-they-believe/" rel="nofollow noopener">--"Religious ‘Nones’ in America: Who They Are and What They Believe" (Pew Research Center)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amrevmuseum.org/dr-martin-luther-king-jr-and-the-promises-of-the-american-revolution" rel="nofollow noopener">--Martin Luther King Jr. and the American Revolution</a></p>

<p><strong>MUSIC CREDITS (all songs from Free Music Archive, and each song carries the "cc by" license)</strong><br>
--"The Trail," by Unheard Music Concepts<br>
--"Funky End," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Caress me to sleep," by rui<br>
--"Monsters of the past," by Pawel Feszczuk<br>
--"Precisamos de um plano," by rui<br>
--"Light Lab," by Rest You Sleeping Giant</p><p>Special Guest: Michael Pasek.</p>]]>
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