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    <description>We’re Christine Doerr and Tammy Tan: friends, food enthusiasts and entrepreneurs. Between us, we own three food businesses (including our shared-use commercial kitchen where this podcast is recorded), and have lots to say about food, the food business, and the people who work in our industry. Join us each episode as we explore food and the food business with other entrepreneurs and food lovers, and share our decades of experience owning, running, and marketing our businesses. New episodes are released on the second and fourth Saturdays of the month. Thanks for listening and subscribing!</description>
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      <title>27: Bakers Against Racism (T&amp;C Talk)</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Update: Thanks to your purchases, we raised $1,800 to support the work of Planting Justice! Thank you for supporting this effort.

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We’ve joined thousands of other #BakersAgainstRacism supporting the #BlackLivesMatter movement by doing what we know best: making delicious food! All profits from the purchase of our brownies and spiced nuts supports Planting Justice, a non-profit organization with the mission to “Grow Food. Grow Jobs. Grow Community” by empowering “people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing.” On this brief episode, we share our reasons for joining this movement, and why we chose Planting Justice to receive our donations.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Update:</strong> Thanks to your purchases, we raised $1,800 to support the work of Planting Justice! Thank you for supporting this effort. </p>

<p>--</p>

<p>We’ve joined thousands of other #BakersAgainstRacism supporting the #BlackLivesMatter movement by doing what we know best: making delicious food! All profits from the purchase of our brownies and spiced nuts supports Planting Justice, a non-profit organization with the mission to “Grow Food. Grow Jobs. Grow Community” by empowering “people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing.” On this brief episode, we share our reasons for joining this movement, and why we chose Planting Justice to receive our donations.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Our virtual bake sale is up! <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism</a>. All profits from your purchase goes to support <a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> and the <a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a> movement.</li>
<li>"<a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> is a grassroots organization with a mission to empower people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing."</li>
<li><a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bakersagainstracism.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bakers Against Racism</a></li>
<li>TheKitchn.com: <a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/bakers-against-racism-bake-sale-23047584" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">This Worldwide Anti-Racism Bake Sale Already Has 1000 Bakers Signed Up. Here’s How to Join.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Update:</strong> Thanks to your purchases, we raised $1,800 to support the work of Planting Justice! Thank you for supporting this effort. </p>

<p>--</p>

<p>We’ve joined thousands of other #BakersAgainstRacism supporting the #BlackLivesMatter movement by doing what we know best: making delicious food! All profits from the purchase of our brownies and spiced nuts supports Planting Justice, a non-profit organization with the mission to “Grow Food. Grow Jobs. Grow Community” by empowering “people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing.” On this brief episode, we share our reasons for joining this movement, and why we chose Planting Justice to receive our donations.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Our virtual bake sale is up! <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism</a>. All profits from your purchase goes to support <a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> and the <a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a> movement.</li>
<li>"<a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> is a grassroots organization with a mission to empower people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing."</li>
<li><a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bakersagainstracism.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bakers Against Racism</a></li>
<li>TheKitchn.com: <a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/bakers-against-racism-bake-sale-23047584" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">This Worldwide Anti-Racism Bake Sale Already Has 1000 Bakers Signed Up. Here’s How to Join.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>Update:</strong> Thanks to your purchases, we raised $1,800 to support the work of Planting Justice! Thank you for supporting this effort. </p>

<p>--</p>

<p>We’ve joined thousands of other #BakersAgainstRacism supporting the #BlackLivesMatter movement by doing what we know best: making delicious food! All profits from the purchase of our brownies and spiced nuts supports Planting Justice, a non-profit organization with the mission to “Grow Food. Grow Jobs. Grow Community” by empowering “people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing.” On this brief episode, we share our reasons for joining this movement, and why we chose Planting Justice to receive our donations.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Our virtual bake sale is up! <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.lettucewrappod.com/bakersagainstracism</a>. All profits from your purchase goes to support <a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> and the <a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a> movement.</li>
<li>"<a href="https://plantingjustice.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Planting Justice</a> is a grassroots organization with a mission to empower people impacted by mass incarceration and other social inequities with the skills and resources to cultivate food sovereignty, economic justice, and community healing."</li>
<li><a href="https://blacklivesmatter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">#BlackLivesMatter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bakersagainstracism.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bakers Against Racism</a></li>
<li>TheKitchn.com: <a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/bakers-against-racism-bake-sale-23047584" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">This Worldwide Anti-Racism Bake Sale Already Has 1000 Bakers Signed Up. Here’s How to Join.</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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      <title>26: We're Social Distancing (T&amp;C Talk)</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2020 08:00:00 -0700</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We’re back! We didn’t plan to be away this long, but the world changed, quickly. In this episode, we share what it’s been like running *three* essential businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how we’re coping with all the changes it’s brought about.

We’ll have more episodes throughout 2020, so thank you for staying subscribed (or for resubscribing)!</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We’re back! We didn’t plan to be away this long, but the world changed, quickly. In this episode, we share what it’s been like running <em>three</em> essential businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how we’re coping with all the changes it’s brought about.</p>

<p>We’ll have more episodes throughout 2020, so thank you for staying subscribed (or for resubscribing)!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Ka3mf9nf.jpeg" alt="COVID-19 Poster"></li>
<li><a href="https://covid19.ca.gov/img/EssentialCriticalInfrastructureWorkers.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Essential businesses in California</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-starter-recipe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sourdough starter recipe from King Arthur Flour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.smchealth.org/coronavirus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">County of San Mateo Health Department COVID-19 safety requirements</a></li>
<li>You can learn more about Amanda, NeoCocoa’s chocolatier, on <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 1: A Crust and Fudgy Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatten_the_curve" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatten the curve</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_fever" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cabin fever</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/episodes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Catch up on our previous episodes</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We’re back! We didn’t plan to be away this long, but the world changed, quickly. In this episode, we share what it’s been like running <em>three</em> essential businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how we’re coping with all the changes it’s brought about.</p>

<p>We’ll have more episodes throughout 2020, so thank you for staying subscribed (or for resubscribing)!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Ka3mf9nf.jpeg" alt="COVID-19 Poster"></li>
<li><a href="https://covid19.ca.gov/img/EssentialCriticalInfrastructureWorkers.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Essential businesses in California</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-starter-recipe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sourdough starter recipe from King Arthur Flour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.smchealth.org/coronavirus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">County of San Mateo Health Department COVID-19 safety requirements</a></li>
<li>You can learn more about Amanda, NeoCocoa’s chocolatier, on <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 1: A Crust and Fudgy Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatten_the_curve" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatten the curve</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_fever" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cabin fever</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/episodes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Catch up on our previous episodes</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We’re back! We didn’t plan to be away this long, but the world changed, quickly. In this episode, we share what it’s been like running <em>three</em> essential businesses during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how we’re coping with all the changes it’s brought about.</p>

<p>We’ll have more episodes throughout 2020, so thank you for staying subscribed (or for resubscribing)!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Ka3mf9nf.jpeg" alt="COVID-19 Poster"></li>
<li><a href="https://covid19.ca.gov/img/EssentialCriticalInfrastructureWorkers.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Essential businesses in California</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kingarthurflour.com/recipes/sourdough-starter-recipe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sourdough starter recipe from King Arthur Flour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.smchealth.org/coronavirus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">County of San Mateo Health Department COVID-19 safety requirements</a></li>
<li>You can learn more about Amanda, NeoCocoa’s chocolatier, on <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 1: A Crust and Fudgy Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flatten_the_curve" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Flatten the curve</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabin_fever" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cabin fever</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/episodes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Catch up on our previous episodes</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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      <title>25: The Pumpkin in the Room (T&amp;C Talk)</title>
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      <author>lettucewrappod@gmail.com (Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan)</author>
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      <itunes:title>The Pumpkin in the Room (T&amp;C Talk)</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In our final episode of 2019, we take a break from interviews to talk about our favorite (and busiest!) time of the year: The holidays! We get personal and chat about our holiday history, how we prepare (business-wise and personally), how we celebrate, and what we miss. Along the way, we admit a few shocking truths, from Tammy’s feelings on pumpkin pie to Christine’s childhood Halloween costume, and we wrap up with a holiday-themed Wrapid Fire and a heartfelt thank you to you, our listeners!

Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and see you in 2020!

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        <![CDATA[<p>In our final episode of 2019, we take a break from interviews to talk about our favorite (and busiest!) time of the year: The holidays! We get personal and chat about our holiday history, how we prepare (business-wise and personally), how we celebrate, and what we miss. Along the way, we admit a few shocking truths, from Tammy’s feelings on pumpkin pie to Christine’s childhood Halloween costume, and we wrap up with a holiday-themed Wrapid Fire and a heartfelt thank you to you, our listeners!</p>

<p>Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and see you in 2020!</p>

<p>(Recorded in November just ahead of Thanksgiving.)</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/turkey-brine?_pos=1&amp;_sid=7674f51cd&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Turkey Brine</a>—"To make a moist, juicy turkey, you should use our turkey brine. One package of our turkey brine is enough for a 14-20 pound turkey.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spice Hound giftsets</a>—For the adventurous or aspiring chef, collections of four to twelve tins of herbs, rubs, and blends, from <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/adobo-seasoning" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobo</a> to <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/zaatar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Za’atar</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tastingtable.com/drinks/national/how-to-make-london-fog-tea-earl-grey-latte" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">London Fog</a> drink</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/earl-grey-vanilla?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3e0103352&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earl Grey &amp; Vanilla</a>—“A spin on a classic winter pairing - earl grey tea and vanilla bean combined with dark chocolate ganache and tossed in cocoa powder.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/pumpkin-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=89dba5f1b&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Spice Milk Chocolate</a>—“A holiday favorite, our milk chocolate pumpkin spice truffle is infused with a classic blend of spices traditionally used in making pumpkin pie, resulting in a rich, creamy morsel that is as good as if not better than actually biting into a freshly baked slice of pumpkin pie.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3b1c55ef3&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Pie Spice</a>—“A favorite holiday spice blend that makes delicious pies. Though it is called Pumpkin Pie Spice, it makes wonderful apple, sweet potato or any fruit pie that you want that spiced flavor. We recommend 2 teaspoon of this spice blend in your fruit pies.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cinnamon?variant=9586663948324" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cinnamon</a>, including Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and Indonesian varieties.</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/mulling-spices?_pos=1&amp;_sid=5e221738f&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mulling Spices</a>—“An aromatic blend to mull apple cider or red wines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/cool-peppermint?_pos=1&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint truffle</a>—“Like a cool breeze on a balmy summer day, our dark chocolate peppermint truffle envelopes you with just the right amount of minty coolness for a refreshing bite that is sure to brighten your day.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/peppermint-hot-chocolate-marshmallow-squares?_pos=2&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a>—“We have taken a quintessential childhood treat and given it a sophisticated make-over. Our artisan crafted Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares are fluffy and delicate in texture. Made with Guittard Chocolate’s cocoa rouge powder and peppermint extract, our marshmallows have a robust, fudge-like flavor. The 72% dark chocolate exterior further enhances the chocolate experience resulting in an intensely satisfying treat that is sure to awaken that inner child and to please even the most discerning gourmand.“</li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16123/ambrosia-fruit-salad/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ambrosia fruit salad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16899/beef-wellington/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beef Wellington</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/241882/salmon-terrine/?internalSource=hub%20recipe&amp;referringContentType=Search" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salmon terrine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/chocolate-no-bake-haystack-cookie-recipe-2096947" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Haystacks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/10118/rainbow-cookies/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-palo-alto" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Christmas Tree Lane” in Palo Alto</a> plus similar streets in <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-san-carlos" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos</a>, and <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-alameda" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alameda</a>, or find more at <a href="http://californiachristmaslights.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Christmas Lights &amp; Displays</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our final episode of 2019, we take a break from interviews to talk about our favorite (and busiest!) time of the year: The holidays! We get personal and chat about our holiday history, how we prepare (business-wise and personally), how we celebrate, and what we miss. Along the way, we admit a few shocking truths, from Tammy’s feelings on pumpkin pie to Christine’s childhood Halloween costume, and we wrap up with a holiday-themed Wrapid Fire and a heartfelt thank you to you, our listeners!</p>

<p>Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and see you in 2020!</p>

<p>(Recorded in November just ahead of Thanksgiving.)</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/turkey-brine?_pos=1&amp;_sid=7674f51cd&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Turkey Brine</a>—"To make a moist, juicy turkey, you should use our turkey brine. One package of our turkey brine is enough for a 14-20 pound turkey.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spice Hound giftsets</a>—For the adventurous or aspiring chef, collections of four to twelve tins of herbs, rubs, and blends, from <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/adobo-seasoning" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobo</a> to <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/zaatar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Za’atar</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tastingtable.com/drinks/national/how-to-make-london-fog-tea-earl-grey-latte" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">London Fog</a> drink</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/earl-grey-vanilla?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3e0103352&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earl Grey &amp; Vanilla</a>—“A spin on a classic winter pairing - earl grey tea and vanilla bean combined with dark chocolate ganache and tossed in cocoa powder.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/pumpkin-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=89dba5f1b&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Spice Milk Chocolate</a>—“A holiday favorite, our milk chocolate pumpkin spice truffle is infused with a classic blend of spices traditionally used in making pumpkin pie, resulting in a rich, creamy morsel that is as good as if not better than actually biting into a freshly baked slice of pumpkin pie.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3b1c55ef3&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Pie Spice</a>—“A favorite holiday spice blend that makes delicious pies. Though it is called Pumpkin Pie Spice, it makes wonderful apple, sweet potato or any fruit pie that you want that spiced flavor. We recommend 2 teaspoon of this spice blend in your fruit pies.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cinnamon?variant=9586663948324" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cinnamon</a>, including Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and Indonesian varieties.</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/mulling-spices?_pos=1&amp;_sid=5e221738f&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mulling Spices</a>—“An aromatic blend to mull apple cider or red wines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/cool-peppermint?_pos=1&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint truffle</a>—“Like a cool breeze on a balmy summer day, our dark chocolate peppermint truffle envelopes you with just the right amount of minty coolness for a refreshing bite that is sure to brighten your day.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/peppermint-hot-chocolate-marshmallow-squares?_pos=2&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a>—“We have taken a quintessential childhood treat and given it a sophisticated make-over. Our artisan crafted Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares are fluffy and delicate in texture. Made with Guittard Chocolate’s cocoa rouge powder and peppermint extract, our marshmallows have a robust, fudge-like flavor. The 72% dark chocolate exterior further enhances the chocolate experience resulting in an intensely satisfying treat that is sure to awaken that inner child and to please even the most discerning gourmand.“</li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16123/ambrosia-fruit-salad/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ambrosia fruit salad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16899/beef-wellington/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beef Wellington</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/241882/salmon-terrine/?internalSource=hub%20recipe&amp;referringContentType=Search" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salmon terrine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/chocolate-no-bake-haystack-cookie-recipe-2096947" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Haystacks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/10118/rainbow-cookies/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-palo-alto" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Christmas Tree Lane” in Palo Alto</a> plus similar streets in <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-san-carlos" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos</a>, and <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-alameda" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alameda</a>, or find more at <a href="http://californiachristmaslights.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Christmas Lights &amp; Displays</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks">Spice Hound &amp; NeoCocoa</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks"><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/kOfPchwy.jpg" alt="Spice Hound logo" width="450px"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FMWjDuQN.jpg" alt="NeoCocoa logo" width="325px"></a>

The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores!  Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!
</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our final episode of 2019, we take a break from interviews to talk about our favorite (and busiest!) time of the year: The holidays! We get personal and chat about our holiday history, how we prepare (business-wise and personally), how we celebrate, and what we miss. Along the way, we admit a few shocking truths, from Tammy’s feelings on pumpkin pie to Christine’s childhood Halloween costume, and we wrap up with a holiday-themed Wrapid Fire and a heartfelt thank you to you, our listeners!</p>

<p>Happy Holidays, Happy New Year, and see you in 2020!</p>

<p>(Recorded in November just ahead of Thanksgiving.)</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/turkey-brine?_pos=1&amp;_sid=7674f51cd&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Turkey Brine</a>—"To make a moist, juicy turkey, you should use our turkey brine. One package of our turkey brine is enough for a 14-20 pound turkey.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spice Hound giftsets</a>—For the adventurous or aspiring chef, collections of four to twelve tins of herbs, rubs, and blends, from <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/adobo-seasoning" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobo</a> to <a href="https://spicehound.com/collections/giftsets/products/zaatar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Za’atar</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.tastingtable.com/drinks/national/how-to-make-london-fog-tea-earl-grey-latte" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">London Fog</a> drink</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/earl-grey-vanilla?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3e0103352&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earl Grey &amp; Vanilla</a>—“A spin on a classic winter pairing - earl grey tea and vanilla bean combined with dark chocolate ganache and tossed in cocoa powder.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/pumpkin-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=89dba5f1b&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Spice Milk Chocolate</a>—“A holiday favorite, our milk chocolate pumpkin spice truffle is infused with a classic blend of spices traditionally used in making pumpkin pie, resulting in a rich, creamy morsel that is as good as if not better than actually biting into a freshly baked slice of pumpkin pie.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice?_pos=1&amp;_sid=3b1c55ef3&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin Pie Spice</a>—“A favorite holiday spice blend that makes delicious pies. Though it is called Pumpkin Pie Spice, it makes wonderful apple, sweet potato or any fruit pie that you want that spiced flavor. We recommend 2 teaspoon of this spice blend in your fruit pies.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cinnamon?variant=9586663948324" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cinnamon</a>, including Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and Indonesian varieties.</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/mulling-spices?_pos=1&amp;_sid=5e221738f&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mulling Spices</a>—“An aromatic blend to mull apple cider or red wines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/cool-peppermint?_pos=1&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint truffle</a>—“Like a cool breeze on a balmy summer day, our dark chocolate peppermint truffle envelopes you with just the right amount of minty coolness for a refreshing bite that is sure to brighten your day.”</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoa.com/products/peppermint-hot-chocolate-marshmallow-squares?_pos=2&amp;_sid=38989376d&amp;_ss=r" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a>—“We have taken a quintessential childhood treat and given it a sophisticated make-over. Our artisan crafted Peppermint Hot Chocolate Marshmallow Squares are fluffy and delicate in texture. Made with Guittard Chocolate’s cocoa rouge powder and peppermint extract, our marshmallows have a robust, fudge-like flavor. The 72% dark chocolate exterior further enhances the chocolate experience resulting in an intensely satisfying treat that is sure to awaken that inner child and to please even the most discerning gourmand.“</li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16123/ambrosia-fruit-salad/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ambrosia fruit salad</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/16899/beef-wellington/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beef Wellington</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/241882/salmon-terrine/?internalSource=hub%20recipe&amp;referringContentType=Search" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salmon terrine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/chocolate-no-bake-haystack-cookie-recipe-2096947" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Haystacks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/10118/rainbow-cookies/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-palo-alto" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Christmas Tree Lane” in Palo Alto</a> plus similar streets in <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-san-carlos" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos</a>, and <a href="https://www.yelp.com/biz/christmas-tree-lane-alameda" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alameda</a>, or find more at <a href="http://californiachristmaslights.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Christmas Lights &amp; Displays</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks">Spice Hound &amp; NeoCocoa</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks"><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/kOfPchwy.jpg" alt="Spice Hound logo" width="450px"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FMWjDuQN.jpg" alt="NeoCocoa logo" width="325px"></a>

The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores!  Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!
</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In 2007, Anucha Kongthavorn stepped off a plane in San Francisco from his native Thailand, and got a job cooking the same day. He's spent his career in the service industry, from restaurant busser to cruise ship butler, culminating in opening his own Thai food take out, Mae Krua. He joins us to talk about his journey, shares his philosophy on serving others, provides advice on starting a restaurant, and explains why his restaurant regulars asked about his emotions before ordering.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 2007, Anucha Kongthavorn stepped off a plane in San Francisco from his native Thailand, and got a job cooking the same day. He's spent his career in the service industry, from restaurant busser to cruise ship butler, culminating in opening his own Thai food take out, Mae Krua. He joins us to talk about his journey, shares his philosophy on serving others, provides advice on starting a restaurant, and explains why his restaurant regulars asked about his emotions before ordering.</p>

<p>In this episode, he tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>the origin of the name "Mae Krua"</li>
<li>how he got into the service business</li>
<li>the value of persistence</li>
<li>why he uses feeling and emotion when making food</li>
<li>how to recognize if you're in the wrong job</li>
<li>why thinking deeply about food is the first step of opening a restaurant</li>
<li>the impact of emotions on the size of a tablespoon</li>
<li>why he stopped using food delivery services like GrubHub</li>
<li>much, much more... we get philosophical on this one.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/331cortland/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">331 Cortland</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.starcruises.com/us/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Star Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.princess.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Princess Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF: City College of San Francisco</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-international-education-and-esl/english-as-a-second-language-esl.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ESL (English as a Second Language)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://deyoung.famsf.org/deyoung/visiting/de-young-cafe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">de Young Café</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://pauliespickling.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Paulie’s Pickling</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/san-francisco/restaurants/mae-krua/a/poi-eat/1518213/1329643" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mae Krua in  Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.yelp.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yelp</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/amazonprime?_encoding=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=pf4&amp;linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D&amp;primeCampaignId=prime_assoc_ft&amp;ref_=assoc_tag_ph_1427739975520&amp;tag=lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime</a>  (Amazon Restaurants is now closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.grubhub.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Grubhub</a>/Eat24</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ubereats.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Uber Eats</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Definition of veganism | The Vegan Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-diet-guide#section5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Vegan Diet — A Complete Guide for Beginners</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://www.cttbusa.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ukiah Temple/City of 10,000 Buddhas</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anucha for joining us. We wish him the best of luck in whatever he decides to do next.</p>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Anucha Kongthavorn, Mae Krua.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In 2007, Anucha Kongthavorn stepped off a plane in San Francisco from his native Thailand, and got a job cooking the same day. He's spent his career in the service industry, from restaurant busser to cruise ship butler, culminating in opening his own Thai food take out, Mae Krua. He joins us to talk about his journey, shares his philosophy on serving others, provides advice on starting a restaurant, and explains why his restaurant regulars asked about his emotions before ordering.</p>

<p>In this episode, he tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>the origin of the name "Mae Krua"</li>
<li>how he got into the service business</li>
<li>the value of persistence</li>
<li>why he uses feeling and emotion when making food</li>
<li>how to recognize if you're in the wrong job</li>
<li>why thinking deeply about food is the first step of opening a restaurant</li>
<li>the impact of emotions on the size of a tablespoon</li>
<li>why he stopped using food delivery services like GrubHub</li>
<li>much, much more... we get philosophical on this one.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/331cortland/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">331 Cortland</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.starcruises.com/us/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Star Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.princess.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Princess Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF: City College of San Francisco</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-international-education-and-esl/english-as-a-second-language-esl.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ESL (English as a Second Language)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://deyoung.famsf.org/deyoung/visiting/de-young-cafe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">de Young Café</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://pauliespickling.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Paulie’s Pickling</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/san-francisco/restaurants/mae-krua/a/poi-eat/1518213/1329643" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mae Krua in  Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.yelp.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yelp</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/amazonprime?_encoding=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=pf4&amp;linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D&amp;primeCampaignId=prime_assoc_ft&amp;ref_=assoc_tag_ph_1427739975520&amp;tag=lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime</a>  (Amazon Restaurants is now closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.grubhub.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Grubhub</a>/Eat24</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ubereats.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Uber Eats</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Definition of veganism | The Vegan Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-diet-guide#section5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Vegan Diet — A Complete Guide for Beginners</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://www.cttbusa.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ukiah Temple/City of 10,000 Buddhas</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anucha for joining us. We wish him the best of luck in whatever he decides to do next.</p>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Anucha Kongthavorn, Mae Krua.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks">Spice Hound &amp; NeoCocoa</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks"><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/kOfPchwy.jpg" alt="Spice Hound logo" width="450px"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FMWjDuQN.jpg" alt="NeoCocoa logo" width="325px"></a>

The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores!  Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!
</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In 2007, Anucha Kongthavorn stepped off a plane in San Francisco from his native Thailand, and got a job cooking the same day. He's spent his career in the service industry, from restaurant busser to cruise ship butler, culminating in opening his own Thai food take out, Mae Krua. He joins us to talk about his journey, shares his philosophy on serving others, provides advice on starting a restaurant, and explains why his restaurant regulars asked about his emotions before ordering.</p>

<p>In this episode, he tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>the origin of the name "Mae Krua"</li>
<li>how he got into the service business</li>
<li>the value of persistence</li>
<li>why he uses feeling and emotion when making food</li>
<li>how to recognize if you're in the wrong job</li>
<li>why thinking deeply about food is the first step of opening a restaurant</li>
<li>the impact of emotions on the size of a tablespoon</li>
<li>why he stopped using food delivery services like GrubHub</li>
<li>much, much more... we get philosophical on this one.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/331cortland/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">331 Cortland</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.starcruises.com/us/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Star Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.princess.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Princess Cruises</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF: City College of San Francisco</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-international-education-and-esl/english-as-a-second-language-esl.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ESL (English as a Second Language)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://deyoung.famsf.org/deyoung/visiting/de-young-cafe" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">de Young Café</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://pauliespickling.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Paulie’s Pickling</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/usa/san-francisco/restaurants/mae-krua/a/poi-eat/1518213/1329643" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mae Krua in  Lonely Planet</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.yelp.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yelp</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/amazonprime?_encoding=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;linkCode=pf4&amp;linkId=%7B%7Blink_id%7D%7D&amp;primeCampaignId=prime_assoc_ft&amp;ref_=assoc_tag_ph_1427739975520&amp;tag=lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime</a>  (Amazon Restaurants is now closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.grubhub.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Grubhub</a>/Eat24</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.ubereats.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Uber Eats</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Definition of veganism | The Vegan Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-diet-guide#section5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Vegan Diet — A Complete Guide for Beginners</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://www.cttbusa.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ukiah Temple/City of 10,000 Buddhas</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anucha for joining us. We wish him the best of luck in whatever he decides to do next.</p>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Anucha Kongthavorn, Mae Krua.</p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks">Spice Hound &amp; NeoCocoa</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks"><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/kOfPchwy.jpg" alt="Spice Hound logo" width="450px"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FMWjDuQN.jpg" alt="NeoCocoa logo" width="325px"></a>

The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores!  Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!
</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This episode we talk about something we both know a bit about: farmers’ markets. Both NeoCocoa and Spice Hound owe their early success to these neighborhood marketplaces, and we firmly believe they’re an amazing way for new food entrepreneurs to get started. We visit a local market to chat with vendors and shoppers, ponder their growing popularity in urban areas, and share our experiences from over a decade of being behind the table.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we talk about something we both know a bit about: farmers’ markets. Both NeoCocoa and Spice Hound owe their early success to these neighborhood marketplaces, and we firmly believe they’re an amazing way for new food entrepreneurs to get started. We visit a local market to chat with vendors and shoppers, ponder their growing popularity in urban areas, and share our experiences from over a decade of being behind the table.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>  —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h4>Markets we mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj-r5Cf3dnlAhW6JzQIHR3uCNQQFjADegQIABAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCollegeofSanMateoFarmersMarket%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2PrdJ4-rgfFHDyOMC4qZcY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Mateo farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=2ahUKEwibosm03dnlAhVRIjQIHVZwD0oQFjAAegQICBAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com%2Ffarmers-market%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2ANUhqyfCAP-LCAmj0ild3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pafarmersmarket.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Downtown Palo Alto farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/palo-alto-sundays" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Avenue farmers’ market (Palo Alto)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sancarloschamber.org/farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonestowngalleria.com/en/visit/stonestown-market.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stonestown Galleria farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/daly-city-farmers-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Daly City farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside farmers’ market (Half Moon Bay)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/is/docs/CurrentMrktsCounty.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certified Farmers’ Markets by San Francisco Bay Area County</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Farmers’ market associations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://pcfma.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pacific Coast Farmers’ Market Association (PCFMA)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Urban Village Farmers’ Markets (UVFM)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cuesa.org/markets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CUESA (Center for Urban Education about Sustainable Agriculture)</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we talk about something we both know a bit about: farmers’ markets. Both NeoCocoa and Spice Hound owe their early success to these neighborhood marketplaces, and we firmly believe they’re an amazing way for new food entrepreneurs to get started. We visit a local market to chat with vendors and shoppers, ponder their growing popularity in urban areas, and share our experiences from over a decade of being behind the table.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>  —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h4>Markets we mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj-r5Cf3dnlAhW6JzQIHR3uCNQQFjADegQIABAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCollegeofSanMateoFarmersMarket%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2PrdJ4-rgfFHDyOMC4qZcY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Mateo farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=2ahUKEwibosm03dnlAhVRIjQIHVZwD0oQFjAAegQICBAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com%2Ffarmers-market%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2ANUhqyfCAP-LCAmj0ild3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pafarmersmarket.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Downtown Palo Alto farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/palo-alto-sundays" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Avenue farmers’ market (Palo Alto)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sancarloschamber.org/farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonestowngalleria.com/en/visit/stonestown-market.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stonestown Galleria farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/daly-city-farmers-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Daly City farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside farmers’ market (Half Moon Bay)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/is/docs/CurrentMrktsCounty.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certified Farmers’ Markets by San Francisco Bay Area County</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Farmers’ market associations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://pcfma.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pacific Coast Farmers’ Market Association (PCFMA)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Urban Village Farmers’ Markets (UVFM)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cuesa.org/markets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CUESA (Center for Urban Education about Sustainable Agriculture)</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we talk about something we both know a bit about: farmers’ markets. Both NeoCocoa and Spice Hound owe their early success to these neighborhood marketplaces, and we firmly believe they’re an amazing way for new food entrepreneurs to get started. We visit a local market to chat with vendors and shoppers, ponder their growing popularity in urban areas, and share our experiences from over a decade of being behind the table.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>  —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
</ul>

<h4>Markets we mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=4&amp;ved=2ahUKEwj-r5Cf3dnlAhW6JzQIHR3uCNQQFjADegQIABAB&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2FCollegeofSanMateoFarmersMarket%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2PrdJ4-rgfFHDyOMC4qZcY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Mateo farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&amp;rct=j&amp;q=&amp;esrc=s&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=2ahUKEwibosm03dnlAhVRIjQIHVZwD0oQFjAAegQICBAC&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com%2Ffarmers-market%2F&amp;usg=AOvVaw2ANUhqyfCAP-LCAmj0ild3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pafarmersmarket.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Downtown Palo Alto farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/palo-alto-sundays" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Avenue farmers’ market (Palo Alto)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sancarloschamber.org/farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Carlos farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonestowngalleria.com/en/visit/stonestown-market.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stonestown Galleria farmers’ market (San Francisco)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/daly-city-farmers-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Daly City farmers’ market</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside farmers’ market (Half Moon Bay)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/is/docs/CurrentMrktsCounty.pdf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certified Farmers’ Markets by San Francisco Bay Area County</a></li>
</ul>

<h4>Farmers’ market associations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://pcfma.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pacific Coast Farmers’ Market Association (PCFMA)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://uvfm.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Urban Village Farmers’ Markets (UVFM)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cuesa.org/markets" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CUESA (Center for Urban Education about Sustainable Agriculture)</a></li>
</ul>

<h3>Save 25% at Spice Hound and NeoCocoa!</h3>

<p>The holiday season is upon us, and as a special “thank you” for being a Lettuce Wrap listener, we’re offering you 25% off all items at both NeoCocoa and SpiceHound online stores! Listen to the episode for the special website and discount code!</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Sponsored By:</p><ul><li><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks">Spice Hound &amp; NeoCocoa</a>: <a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks"><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/thanks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/kOfPchwy.jpg" alt="Spice Hound logo" width="450px"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FMWjDuQN.jpg" alt="NeoCocoa logo" width="325px"></a>

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        <![CDATA[<p>Dan Mills turned his hobby of collecting commercial kitchen gadgets into Tinker Kitchen, a makerspace for community cooking. He joins us to talk about his inspiration for the space, why entrepreneurs need grit in the face of never-ending roadblocks, and how his very understanding girlfriend provided the (literal!) space he needed to succeed.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maker_culture" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker culture</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CAD (Computer-aided Design)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sketchup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SketchUp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/randd.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;D (Research and Development)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ROI (Return on Investment)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://makezine.com/projects/liquid-nitrogen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous-vide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous vide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_gastronomy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Molecular Gastronomy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.chezpanisse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chez Panisse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/opportunitycost.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Opportunity cost</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/burnout" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burnout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/20846993/tinker-kitchen" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tinker Kitchen Kickstarter project (funded, 2018)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://products.office.com/en-us/excel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microsoft Excel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sba.gov" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBA</a>—Small Business Association</li>
<li><a href="https://americassbdc.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBDC</a>—America’s Small Business Development Centers</li>
<li><a href="https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SEO</a>—Search Engine Optimization</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a>  —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”

<ul>
<li>We talk more about the PFR in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a> .</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_(creative_process)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ideating</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/guide/628/types-of-combi-ovens.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Combi-Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="http://how2heroes.com/videos/seafood/portuguese-cataplana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cataplana (Portuguese tomato chorizo stew) video recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://threevirtues.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Laziness, Impatience, Hubris: The Three Virtues of a Programmer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeru_Kobayashi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Takeru Kobayashi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 8, The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> where Lori answers our "take a bath in what food" Wrapid Fire question (@ 56:48).</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Dan for joining us. You can find him at <a href="https://tinkerkitchen.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">tinkerkitchen.org</a>, and follow him on <a href="https://twitter.com/tinkerkitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter (@tinkerkitch)</a> and <a href="https://instagram.com/tinkerkitch/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram (@tinkerkitch)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Dan Mills, Tinker Kitchen.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Dan Mills turned his hobby of collecting commercial kitchen gadgets into Tinker Kitchen, a makerspace for community cooking. He joins us to talk about his inspiration for the space, why entrepreneurs need grit in the face of never-ending roadblocks, and how his very understanding girlfriend provided the (literal!) space he needed to succeed.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maker_culture" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker culture</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CAD (Computer-aided Design)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sketchup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SketchUp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/randd.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;D (Research and Development)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ROI (Return on Investment)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://makezine.com/projects/liquid-nitrogen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous-vide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous vide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_gastronomy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Molecular Gastronomy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.chezpanisse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chez Panisse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/opportunitycost.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Opportunity cost</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/burnout" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burnout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/20846993/tinker-kitchen" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tinker Kitchen Kickstarter project (funded, 2018)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://products.office.com/en-us/excel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microsoft Excel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sba.gov" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBA</a>—Small Business Association</li>
<li><a href="https://americassbdc.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBDC</a>—America’s Small Business Development Centers</li>
<li><a href="https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SEO</a>—Search Engine Optimization</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a>  —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”

<ul>
<li>We talk more about the PFR in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a> .</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_(creative_process)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ideating</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/guide/628/types-of-combi-ovens.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Combi-Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="http://how2heroes.com/videos/seafood/portuguese-cataplana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cataplana (Portuguese tomato chorizo stew) video recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://threevirtues.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Laziness, Impatience, Hubris: The Three Virtues of a Programmer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeru_Kobayashi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Takeru Kobayashi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 8, The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> where Lori answers our "take a bath in what food" Wrapid Fire question (@ 56:48).</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Dan for joining us. You can find him at <a href="https://tinkerkitchen.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">tinkerkitchen.org</a>, and follow him on <a href="https://twitter.com/tinkerkitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter (@tinkerkitch)</a> and <a href="https://instagram.com/tinkerkitch/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram (@tinkerkitch)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Dan Mills, Tinker Kitchen.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dan Mills turned his hobby of collecting commercial kitchen gadgets into Tinker Kitchen, a makerspace for community cooking. He joins us to talk about his inspiration for the space, why entrepreneurs need grit in the face of never-ending roadblocks, and how his very understanding girlfriend provided the (literal!) space he needed to succeed.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maker_culture" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker culture</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer-aided_design" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CAD (Computer-aided Design)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sketchup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SketchUp</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/randd.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;D (Research and Development)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/returnoninvestment.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ROI (Return on Investment)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://makezine.com/projects/liquid-nitrogen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sous-vide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous vide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_gastronomy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Molecular Gastronomy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.chezpanisse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chez Panisse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/opportunitycost.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Opportunity cost</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/burnout" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burnout</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/20846993/tinker-kitchen" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tinker Kitchen Kickstarter project (funded, 2018)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://products.office.com/en-us/excel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microsoft Excel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sba.gov" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBA</a>—Small Business Association</li>
<li><a href="https://americassbdc.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SBDC</a>—America’s Small Business Development Centers</li>
<li><a href="https://moz.com/beginners-guide-to-seo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SEO</a>—Search Engine Optimization</li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a>  —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”

<ul>
<li>We talk more about the PFR in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a> .</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideation_(creative_process)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ideating</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/guide/628/types-of-combi-ovens.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Combi-Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="http://how2heroes.com/videos/seafood/portuguese-cataplana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cataplana (Portuguese tomato chorizo stew) video recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://threevirtues.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Laziness, Impatience, Hubris: The Three Virtues of a Programmer</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takeru_Kobayashi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Takeru Kobayashi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Episode 8, The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> where Lori answers our "take a bath in what food" Wrapid Fire question (@ 56:48).</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Dan for joining us. You can find him at <a href="https://tinkerkitchen.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">tinkerkitchen.org</a>, and follow him on <a href="https://twitter.com/tinkerkitch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter (@tinkerkitch)</a> and <a href="https://instagram.com/tinkerkitch/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram (@tinkerkitch)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Dan Mills, Tinker Kitchen.</p>]]>
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      <title>21: Cake Scraps and Hugs, with Kelly Zubal of Inticing Creations</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Kelly Zubal of Inticing Creations made a custom guitar birthday cake for Journey guitarist Neal Schon, and appeared on TV next to Martha Stewart. Now she’s here with us to talk about how she got started in her sculpted edible cakes career, her experiences as a “reality tv star”, and why her husband “Home Boy” Pete is her third favorite kitchen tool.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kelly Zubal of Inticing Creations made a custom guitar birthday cake for Journey guitarist Neal Schon, and appeared on TV next to Martha Stewart. Now she’s here with us to talk about how she got started in her sculpted edible cakes career, her experiences as a “reality tv star”, and why her husband “Home Boy” Pete is her third favorite kitchen tool.</p>

<p>Kelly also tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>Why 4 years <a href="https://twitter.com/lacocinasf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> was “the best bootcamp”</li>
<li>How she “stumbled on” edible art as a business</li>
<li>Why not eating her sculptures “breaks her heart”</li>
<li>The origins of “Inticing Creations” as a name </li>
<li>Why she “redefined what success meant” to her</li>
<li>Why she did TV food shows, and why she doesn’t do more</li>
<li>What is was like being on TV with <a href="https://twitter.com/marthastewart" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li>About lighting the fireworks on <a href="https://twitter.com/nealschonmusic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon’s</a> custom guitar birthday cake</li>
<li>The food she’d take a bath in.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/station/metal/ra.985499642?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metal Radio</a> on Apple Music</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2MiNj1A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cakes To Dream On: A Master Class in Decorating</a>, by <a href="http://colettescakes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Colette Peters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bhg.com/recipes/how-to/bake/how-to-make-fondant/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Make Fondant</a></li>
<li>Kelly’s episode of <a href="https://watch.foodnetwork.com/tv-shows/duff-till-dawn/full-episodes/monster-mayhem" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duff Till Dawn: Monster Mayem</a>—“Duff Goldman, master of cake mayhem, challenges Kelly Zubal, queen of clean cakes, and former punk rocker Wiley Saccheri to bring their ultimate monster cakes to life. Will Kelly's partnership with her husband trump Wiley's collaboration with his mother-in-law? Can they make their cakes before the sun comes up or will their dream monsters turn to into cake nightmares? Guest judges Haylie Duff and Geof Manthorne will help Duff crown the team that delivers the boldest cake of the night.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewartweddings.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart Weddings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Schon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon</a>, <a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/artist/journey/486597?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Journey</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://rockdocumented.com/2019/02/26/neal-schon-is-celebrating-with-heartfelt-birthday-messages-sold-out-journey-through-time-shows/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">News story about Neal Schon’s birthday</a>, including photos of Kelly’s custom guitar cake</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6r9-33-Mdc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch a fondant sheeter in action</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/arthritis-bursitis#1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bursitis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Kelly for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://inticingcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">inticingcreations.com</a> and on  <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyzubal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@kellyzubal</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Kelly Zubal, Inticing Creations.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kelly Zubal of Inticing Creations made a custom guitar birthday cake for Journey guitarist Neal Schon, and appeared on TV next to Martha Stewart. Now she’s here with us to talk about how she got started in her sculpted edible cakes career, her experiences as a “reality tv star”, and why her husband “Home Boy” Pete is her third favorite kitchen tool.</p>

<p>Kelly also tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>Why 4 years <a href="https://twitter.com/lacocinasf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> was “the best bootcamp”</li>
<li>How she “stumbled on” edible art as a business</li>
<li>Why not eating her sculptures “breaks her heart”</li>
<li>The origins of “Inticing Creations” as a name </li>
<li>Why she “redefined what success meant” to her</li>
<li>Why she did TV food shows, and why she doesn’t do more</li>
<li>What is was like being on TV with <a href="https://twitter.com/marthastewart" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li>About lighting the fireworks on <a href="https://twitter.com/nealschonmusic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon’s</a> custom guitar birthday cake</li>
<li>The food she’d take a bath in.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/station/metal/ra.985499642?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metal Radio</a> on Apple Music</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2MiNj1A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cakes To Dream On: A Master Class in Decorating</a>, by <a href="http://colettescakes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Colette Peters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bhg.com/recipes/how-to/bake/how-to-make-fondant/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Make Fondant</a></li>
<li>Kelly’s episode of <a href="https://watch.foodnetwork.com/tv-shows/duff-till-dawn/full-episodes/monster-mayhem" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duff Till Dawn: Monster Mayem</a>—“Duff Goldman, master of cake mayhem, challenges Kelly Zubal, queen of clean cakes, and former punk rocker Wiley Saccheri to bring their ultimate monster cakes to life. Will Kelly's partnership with her husband trump Wiley's collaboration with his mother-in-law? Can they make their cakes before the sun comes up or will their dream monsters turn to into cake nightmares? Guest judges Haylie Duff and Geof Manthorne will help Duff crown the team that delivers the boldest cake of the night.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewartweddings.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart Weddings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Schon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon</a>, <a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/artist/journey/486597?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Journey</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://rockdocumented.com/2019/02/26/neal-schon-is-celebrating-with-heartfelt-birthday-messages-sold-out-journey-through-time-shows/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">News story about Neal Schon’s birthday</a>, including photos of Kelly’s custom guitar cake</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6r9-33-Mdc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch a fondant sheeter in action</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/arthritis-bursitis#1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bursitis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Kelly for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://inticingcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">inticingcreations.com</a> and on  <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyzubal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@kellyzubal</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Kelly Zubal, Inticing Creations.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Kelly Zubal of Inticing Creations made a custom guitar birthday cake for Journey guitarist Neal Schon, and appeared on TV next to Martha Stewart. Now she’s here with us to talk about how she got started in her sculpted edible cakes career, her experiences as a “reality tv star”, and why her husband “Home Boy” Pete is her third favorite kitchen tool.</p>

<p>Kelly also tells us</p>

<ul>
<li>Why 4 years <a href="https://twitter.com/lacocinasf" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> was “the best bootcamp”</li>
<li>How she “stumbled on” edible art as a business</li>
<li>Why not eating her sculptures “breaks her heart”</li>
<li>The origins of “Inticing Creations” as a name </li>
<li>Why she “redefined what success meant” to her</li>
<li>Why she did TV food shows, and why she doesn’t do more</li>
<li>What is was like being on TV with <a href="https://twitter.com/marthastewart" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li>About lighting the fireworks on <a href="https://twitter.com/nealschonmusic" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon’s</a> custom guitar birthday cake</li>
<li>The food she’d take a bath in.</li>
</ul>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/station/metal/ra.985499642?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metal Radio</a> on Apple Music</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a> —“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2MiNj1A" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cakes To Dream On: A Master Class in Decorating</a>, by <a href="http://colettescakes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Colette Peters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bhg.com/recipes/how-to/bake/how-to-make-fondant/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How to Make Fondant</a></li>
<li>Kelly’s episode of <a href="https://watch.foodnetwork.com/tv-shows/duff-till-dawn/full-episodes/monster-mayhem" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duff Till Dawn: Monster Mayem</a>—“Duff Goldman, master of cake mayhem, challenges Kelly Zubal, queen of clean cakes, and former punk rocker Wiley Saccheri to bring their ultimate monster cakes to life. Will Kelly's partnership with her husband trump Wiley's collaboration with his mother-in-law? Can they make their cakes before the sun comes up or will their dream monsters turn to into cake nightmares? Guest judges Haylie Duff and Geof Manthorne will help Duff crown the team that delivers the boldest cake of the night.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewartweddings.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart Weddings</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Schon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neal Schon</a>, <a href="https://geo.music.apple.com/us/artist/journey/486597?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Journey</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://rockdocumented.com/2019/02/26/neal-schon-is-celebrating-with-heartfelt-birthday-messages-sold-out-journey-through-time-shows/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">News story about Neal Schon’s birthday</a>, including photos of Kelly’s custom guitar cake</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6r9-33-Mdc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch a fondant sheeter in action</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.webmd.com/pain-management/arthritis-bursitis#1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bursitis</a></li>
<li><a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Kelly for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://inticingcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">inticingcreations.com</a> and on  <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/kellyzubal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@kellyzubal</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Kelly Zubal, Inticing Creations.</p>]]>
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      <title>20: Petri Dish Meats (T&amp;C Talk)</title>
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      <author>lettucewrappod@gmail.com (Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan)</author>
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      <itunes:title>Petri Dish Meats (T&amp;C Talk)</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We discuss the state of “plant-based meat alternatives” then taste seven different burgers, beef and not-beef, to see if we like (or can even identify!) the plant-based ones from Impossible Food and Beyond Burger. These are definitely not your old-school alternatives like Boca Burger or Gardenburger. Do these lab-engineered foods actually taste like beef? Can a self-described carnivore and a non-beef eater find common ground in these patties, or will we be left asking “Where’s the beef?!”</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss the state of “plant-based meat alternatives” then taste seven different burgers, beef and not-beef, to see if we like (or can even identify!) the plant-based ones from Impossible Food and Beyond Burger. These are definitely not your old-school alternatives like Boca Burger or Gardenburger. Do these lab-engineered foods actually taste like beef? Can a self-described carnivore and a non-beef eater find common ground in these patties, or will we be left asking “Where’s the beef?!”</p>

<p>We start off talking about the explosion in the public consciousness about “plant based meat alternatives”, driven in part by Burger King, Carl’s Jr., White Castle and other fast food places including them on their menu (and the generally positive reviews they’ve gotten). Then we dive into the healthiness of eating plant-based burgers compared to beef burgers, talk a bit about the general squickiness we feel about eating foods engineered in a lab, and briefly explore their environmental impact.</p>

<p>Then we get to eating! Producer Jason, a self-professed burger lover, joins us in the taste test, where poke, prod and closely examine each burger to figure out which is which, while debating the definition of “burger” and “meat”.</p>

<p>We wrap up this episode with a philosophical discussion on knowing vs. not knowing what we’re eating, if beef will always be our first choice, and whether the next generation will consider animal flesh to be the weird thing to eat.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>What we tried:

<ul>
<li>Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 1</li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com/products/the-beyond-burger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 2 (“now even meatier”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Whopper</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com/menus/#main-menu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Classic with Impossible Patty</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90241836/meatless-burgers-vs-beef-how-beyond-meats-environmental-impact-stacks-up" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless burgers vs. beef: How Beyond Meat’s environmental impact stacks up</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/great-veggie-burgers-are-here-but-are-they-any-healthier-w449490/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Great Veggie Burgers are Here, But Are They Any Healthier? - Men’s Journal</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://impossiblefoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Food</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/beyondburger" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Burgers &amp; Shakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouthfeel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouthfeel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Highway 5</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bocaburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boca Burger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gardenburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gardenburger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sfzoo.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Zoo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Red meat</a> vs.  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/ipo.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">IPO (Initial Public Offering)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/bynd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">BYND</a>: Beyond Meats stock ticker</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-impossible-foods-fundraising-exclusiv-idUSKCN1SJ0YK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Foods raises $300 million with investors eager for bite of meatless burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ju.st/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">JUST</a> (scrambled “egg” made from plants)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">GMO (Genetically modified organism)</a>—“any organism whose  genetic  material has been altered using  genetic engineering techniques.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebarnhmb.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Barn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dadsluncheonette.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dad’s Luncheonette</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Producer Jason for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonanthonyguy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@jasonanthonyguy</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Jason Anthony Guy.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss the state of “plant-based meat alternatives” then taste seven different burgers, beef and not-beef, to see if we like (or can even identify!) the plant-based ones from Impossible Food and Beyond Burger. These are definitely not your old-school alternatives like Boca Burger or Gardenburger. Do these lab-engineered foods actually taste like beef? Can a self-described carnivore and a non-beef eater find common ground in these patties, or will we be left asking “Where’s the beef?!”</p>

<p>We start off talking about the explosion in the public consciousness about “plant based meat alternatives”, driven in part by Burger King, Carl’s Jr., White Castle and other fast food places including them on their menu (and the generally positive reviews they’ve gotten). Then we dive into the healthiness of eating plant-based burgers compared to beef burgers, talk a bit about the general squickiness we feel about eating foods engineered in a lab, and briefly explore their environmental impact.</p>

<p>Then we get to eating! Producer Jason, a self-professed burger lover, joins us in the taste test, where poke, prod and closely examine each burger to figure out which is which, while debating the definition of “burger” and “meat”.</p>

<p>We wrap up this episode with a philosophical discussion on knowing vs. not knowing what we’re eating, if beef will always be our first choice, and whether the next generation will consider animal flesh to be the weird thing to eat.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>What we tried:

<ul>
<li>Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 1</li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com/products/the-beyond-burger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 2 (“now even meatier”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Whopper</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com/menus/#main-menu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Classic with Impossible Patty</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90241836/meatless-burgers-vs-beef-how-beyond-meats-environmental-impact-stacks-up" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless burgers vs. beef: How Beyond Meat’s environmental impact stacks up</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/great-veggie-burgers-are-here-but-are-they-any-healthier-w449490/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Great Veggie Burgers are Here, But Are They Any Healthier? - Men’s Journal</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://impossiblefoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Food</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/beyondburger" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Burgers &amp; Shakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouthfeel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouthfeel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Highway 5</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bocaburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boca Burger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gardenburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gardenburger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sfzoo.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Zoo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Red meat</a> vs.  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/ipo.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">IPO (Initial Public Offering)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/bynd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">BYND</a>: Beyond Meats stock ticker</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-impossible-foods-fundraising-exclusiv-idUSKCN1SJ0YK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Foods raises $300 million with investors eager for bite of meatless burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ju.st/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">JUST</a> (scrambled “egg” made from plants)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">GMO (Genetically modified organism)</a>—“any organism whose  genetic  material has been altered using  genetic engineering techniques.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebarnhmb.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Barn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dadsluncheonette.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dad’s Luncheonette</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Producer Jason for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonanthonyguy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@jasonanthonyguy</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Jason Anthony Guy.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss the state of “plant-based meat alternatives” then taste seven different burgers, beef and not-beef, to see if we like (or can even identify!) the plant-based ones from Impossible Food and Beyond Burger. These are definitely not your old-school alternatives like Boca Burger or Gardenburger. Do these lab-engineered foods actually taste like beef? Can a self-described carnivore and a non-beef eater find common ground in these patties, or will we be left asking “Where’s the beef?!”</p>

<p>We start off talking about the explosion in the public consciousness about “plant based meat alternatives”, driven in part by Burger King, Carl’s Jr., White Castle and other fast food places including them on their menu (and the generally positive reviews they’ve gotten). Then we dive into the healthiness of eating plant-based burgers compared to beef burgers, talk a bit about the general squickiness we feel about eating foods engineered in a lab, and briefly explore their environmental impact.</p>

<p>Then we get to eating! Producer Jason, a self-professed burger lover, joins us in the taste test, where poke, prod and closely examine each burger to figure out which is which, while debating the definition of “burger” and “meat”.</p>

<p>We wrap up this episode with a philosophical discussion on knowing vs. not knowing what we’re eating, if beef will always be our first choice, and whether the next generation will consider animal flesh to be the weird thing to eat.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>What we tried:

<ul>
<li>Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 1</li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com/products/the-beyond-burger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat’s Beyond Burger patty Version 2 (“now even meatier”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/menu/nutritional_calculator" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Whopper</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com/menus/#main-menu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Classic with Impossible Patty</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fastcompany.com/90241836/meatless-burgers-vs-beef-how-beyond-meats-environmental-impact-stacks-up" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless burgers vs. beef: How Beyond Meat’s environmental impact stacks up</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.mensjournal.com/food-drink/great-veggie-burgers-are-here-but-are-they-any-healthier-w449490/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Great Veggie Burgers are Here, But Are They Any Healthier? - Men’s Journal</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://impossiblefoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Food</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.beyondmeat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Beyond Meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr.</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.carlsjr.com/beyondburger" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carl’s Jr. Beyond Famous Star with Cheese</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.bk.com/menu-item/impossible-whopper" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Burger King Impossible Whopper</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jacksprime.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack’s Prime Burgers &amp; Shakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouthfeel" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouthfeel</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Highway 5</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bocaburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boca Burger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gardenburger.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gardenburger</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sfzoo.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Zoo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Red meat</a> vs.  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_meat" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White meat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/ipo.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">IPO (Initial Public Offering)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/bynd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">BYND</a>: Beyond Meats stock ticker</li>
<li><a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-impossible-foods-fundraising-exclusiv-idUSKCN1SJ0YK" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Impossible Foods raises $300 million with investors eager for bite of meatless burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ju.st/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">JUST</a> (scrambled “egg” made from plants)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetically_modified_organism" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">GMO (Genetically modified organism)</a>—“any organism whose  genetic  material has been altered using  genetic engineering techniques.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebarnhmb.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Barn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dadsluncheonette.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dad’s Luncheonette</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Producer Jason for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/jasonanthonyguy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@jasonanthonyguy</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Jason Anthony Guy.</p>]]>
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      <title>19: 850 Item To-Do List, with Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos of Fete Fraiche</title>
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      <itunes:title>850 Item To-Do List, with Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos of Fete Fraiche</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Growing up in a big Greek family, cooking for large groups was a natural part of Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos’ youth. She eventually turned that passion for bringing people together over food into a business, Fete Fraiche, first as a personal chef, and now as an event chef and caterer for the likes of Google and Stanford. Marissa shares the challenges of unanticipated growth, why saying *no* is such an important part of success, and the reason she’s such a gigantic fan of… lists and spreadsheets?</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Growing up in a big Greek family, cooking for large groups was a natural part of Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos’ youth. She eventually turned that passion for bringing people together over food into a business, Fete Fraiche, first as a personal chef, and now as an event chef and caterer for the likes of Google and Stanford. Marissa shares the challenges of unanticipated growth, why saying <em>no</em> is such an important part of success, and the reason she’s such a gigantic fan of… lists and spreadsheets?</p>

<p>We start by talking about being born Greek, growing up in Queens and Chicago, and learning to cook at her grandmother’s side. Her best friend’s graduation gift led to a California visit, where she met her husband and they now live with their four kids. Before she started her cooking career, she earned two degrees (in Philosophy and Industrial Organizational Psychology) and started an MBA.  After living in Florence, Italy for a minute (where she got her first chance to cook in a commercial kitchen), she returned to the States and completed her culinary training at the legendary California Culinary Academy in San Francisco. A  stint at Michelin-starred Commonwealth, Ladies Who Lunch, and a few other local establishments, and she was ready to strike out on her own, creating Fete Fraiche.</p>

<p>She didn’t initially plan to do catering and events. She started as a personal chef, making meals for for families in their home kitchen. Her clients loved her so much, they started asking her to cater large gatherings and events, eventually requiring her to sublease a commercial kitchen to handle the unanticipated growth.</p>

<p>We chat about how her nightmare scenario of arriving at an event without any food almost came true, and the value of word of mouth in both marketing and hiring (especially when your website is “incomplete”!). And while her time in CCA didn’t completely prepare her for running a catering business, it turns out leading weeks-long holiday events  for your kids’ schools most certainly does.</p>

<p>We wrap up with a frank discussion about the challenges of educating customers who want custom catering for less than what they’d pay at Chipotle, and the importance of telling those customers it’s not me, it’s you....</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-bread-starter.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Starter (bread)</a>—“A bread starter is the base for many artisan breads, including sourdough and  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/who-are-the-amish.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amish</a>  Friendship Bread. It uses naturally occurring wild  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/why-does-yeast-make-bread-rise.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yeast</a>  as a leavening agent, lending a distinct flavor and texture to the bread that cannot be replicated by commercially harvested yeast. Some bread companies use starters that are over 100 years old to create dependably flavored bread every time. Many home bakers make their own starter as they explore the varied world of bread baking.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-your-own-sourdough-starter-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-47337" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How To Make Sourdough Starter from Scratch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hoodline.com/2019/08/sf-eats-commonwealth-says-goodbye-kezar-bar-restaurant-adds-brunch-more" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Commonwealth to close on Aug. 26</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="http://lwlcatering.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ladies Who Lunch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.uspca.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">United States Personal Chef Association</a>—“USPCA provides a one-stop shop for everything you need to effectively and efficiently manage your Personal Chef business with day to day support from the association as well as the NETWORK with other Personal Chefs to help you grow your Personal Chef business.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD)</a>—“a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental disorder</a> in which a person feels the need to perform  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_behavior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain routines repeatedly</a>  (called "compulsions"), or has  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain thoughts repeatedly</a>  (called "obsessions"). [...] The phrase <em>obsessive–compulsive</em> is sometimes used in an informal manner unrelated to OCD to describe someone as being excessively meticulous, absorbed, or otherwise fixated.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/marzipan-521098" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Marzipan</a> from The Spruce Eats</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yoga</a>—“a group of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">physical</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental</a> , and  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">spiritual</a>  practices or disciplines which originated in  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_India" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ancient India</a> .[...] The term "yoga" in the Western world often denotes a modern form of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hatha yoga</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_as_exercise" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yoga as exercise</a> , consisting largely of the postures called  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">asanas</a> .“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meditation</a>—“a practice where an individual uses a technique – such as  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mindfulness</a> , or focusing their mind on a particular object, thought or activity – to train attention and awareness, and achieve a mentally clear and emotionally calm and stable state.”</li>
<li>“Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career.” Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/17" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 17 of Lettuce Wrap</a> “BBQ is a Little Mystical with Steven Hollifield of Seismic BBQ.</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Marissa for joining us. You can find her on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram <a href="https://instagram.com/fetefraichecooks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@fetefraichecooks</a> and <a href="https://www.fetefraiche.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.fetefraiche.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos, Fete Fraiche.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Growing up in a big Greek family, cooking for large groups was a natural part of Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos’ youth. She eventually turned that passion for bringing people together over food into a business, Fete Fraiche, first as a personal chef, and now as an event chef and caterer for the likes of Google and Stanford. Marissa shares the challenges of unanticipated growth, why saying <em>no</em> is such an important part of success, and the reason she’s such a gigantic fan of… lists and spreadsheets?</p>

<p>We start by talking about being born Greek, growing up in Queens and Chicago, and learning to cook at her grandmother’s side. Her best friend’s graduation gift led to a California visit, where she met her husband and they now live with their four kids. Before she started her cooking career, she earned two degrees (in Philosophy and Industrial Organizational Psychology) and started an MBA.  After living in Florence, Italy for a minute (where she got her first chance to cook in a commercial kitchen), she returned to the States and completed her culinary training at the legendary California Culinary Academy in San Francisco. A  stint at Michelin-starred Commonwealth, Ladies Who Lunch, and a few other local establishments, and she was ready to strike out on her own, creating Fete Fraiche.</p>

<p>She didn’t initially plan to do catering and events. She started as a personal chef, making meals for for families in their home kitchen. Her clients loved her so much, they started asking her to cater large gatherings and events, eventually requiring her to sublease a commercial kitchen to handle the unanticipated growth.</p>

<p>We chat about how her nightmare scenario of arriving at an event without any food almost came true, and the value of word of mouth in both marketing and hiring (especially when your website is “incomplete”!). And while her time in CCA didn’t completely prepare her for running a catering business, it turns out leading weeks-long holiday events  for your kids’ schools most certainly does.</p>

<p>We wrap up with a frank discussion about the challenges of educating customers who want custom catering for less than what they’d pay at Chipotle, and the importance of telling those customers it’s not me, it’s you....</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-bread-starter.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Starter (bread)</a>—“A bread starter is the base for many artisan breads, including sourdough and  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/who-are-the-amish.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amish</a>  Friendship Bread. It uses naturally occurring wild  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/why-does-yeast-make-bread-rise.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yeast</a>  as a leavening agent, lending a distinct flavor and texture to the bread that cannot be replicated by commercially harvested yeast. Some bread companies use starters that are over 100 years old to create dependably flavored bread every time. Many home bakers make their own starter as they explore the varied world of bread baking.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-your-own-sourdough-starter-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-47337" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How To Make Sourdough Starter from Scratch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hoodline.com/2019/08/sf-eats-commonwealth-says-goodbye-kezar-bar-restaurant-adds-brunch-more" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Commonwealth to close on Aug. 26</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="http://lwlcatering.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ladies Who Lunch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.uspca.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">United States Personal Chef Association</a>—“USPCA provides a one-stop shop for everything you need to effectively and efficiently manage your Personal Chef business with day to day support from the association as well as the NETWORK with other Personal Chefs to help you grow your Personal Chef business.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD)</a>—“a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental disorder</a> in which a person feels the need to perform  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_behavior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain routines repeatedly</a>  (called "compulsions"), or has  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain thoughts repeatedly</a>  (called "obsessions"). [...] The phrase <em>obsessive–compulsive</em> is sometimes used in an informal manner unrelated to OCD to describe someone as being excessively meticulous, absorbed, or otherwise fixated.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/marzipan-521098" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Marzipan</a> from The Spruce Eats</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yoga</a>—“a group of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">physical</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental</a> , and  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">spiritual</a>  practices or disciplines which originated in  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_India" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ancient India</a> .[...] The term "yoga" in the Western world often denotes a modern form of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hatha yoga</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_as_exercise" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yoga as exercise</a> , consisting largely of the postures called  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">asanas</a> .“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meditation</a>—“a practice where an individual uses a technique – such as  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mindfulness</a> , or focusing their mind on a particular object, thought or activity – to train attention and awareness, and achieve a mentally clear and emotionally calm and stable state.”</li>
<li>“Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career.” Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/17" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 17 of Lettuce Wrap</a> “BBQ is a Little Mystical with Steven Hollifield of Seismic BBQ.</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Marissa for joining us. You can find her on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram <a href="https://instagram.com/fetefraichecooks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@fetefraichecooks</a> and <a href="https://www.fetefraiche.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.fetefraiche.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos, Fete Fraiche.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Growing up in a big Greek family, cooking for large groups was a natural part of Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos’ youth. She eventually turned that passion for bringing people together over food into a business, Fete Fraiche, first as a personal chef, and now as an event chef and caterer for the likes of Google and Stanford. Marissa shares the challenges of unanticipated growth, why saying <em>no</em> is such an important part of success, and the reason she’s such a gigantic fan of… lists and spreadsheets?</p>

<p>We start by talking about being born Greek, growing up in Queens and Chicago, and learning to cook at her grandmother’s side. Her best friend’s graduation gift led to a California visit, where she met her husband and they now live with their four kids. Before she started her cooking career, she earned two degrees (in Philosophy and Industrial Organizational Psychology) and started an MBA.  After living in Florence, Italy for a minute (where she got her first chance to cook in a commercial kitchen), she returned to the States and completed her culinary training at the legendary California Culinary Academy in San Francisco. A  stint at Michelin-starred Commonwealth, Ladies Who Lunch, and a few other local establishments, and she was ready to strike out on her own, creating Fete Fraiche.</p>

<p>She didn’t initially plan to do catering and events. She started as a personal chef, making meals for for families in their home kitchen. Her clients loved her so much, they started asking her to cater large gatherings and events, eventually requiring her to sublease a commercial kitchen to handle the unanticipated growth.</p>

<p>We chat about how her nightmare scenario of arriving at an event without any food almost came true, and the value of word of mouth in both marketing and hiring (especially when your website is “incomplete”!). And while her time in CCA didn’t completely prepare her for running a catering business, it turns out leading weeks-long holiday events  for your kids’ schools most certainly does.</p>

<p>We wrap up with a frank discussion about the challenges of educating customers who want custom catering for less than what they’d pay at Chipotle, and the importance of telling those customers it’s not me, it’s you....</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-bread-starter.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Starter (bread)</a>—“A bread starter is the base for many artisan breads, including sourdough and  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/who-are-the-amish.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amish</a>  Friendship Bread. It uses naturally occurring wild  <a href="https://www.wisegeek.com/why-does-yeast-make-bread-rise.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yeast</a>  as a leavening agent, lending a distinct flavor and texture to the bread that cannot be replicated by commercially harvested yeast. Some bread companies use starters that are over 100 years old to create dependably flavored bread every time. Many home bakers make their own starter as they explore the varied world of bread baking.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/how-to-make-your-own-sourdough-starter-cooking-lessons-from-the-kitchn-47337" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How To Make Sourdough Starter from Scratch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://hoodline.com/2019/08/sf-eats-commonwealth-says-goodbye-kezar-bar-restaurant-adds-brunch-more" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Commonwealth to close on Aug. 26</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> —“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="http://lwlcatering.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ladies Who Lunch</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.uspca.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">United States Personal Chef Association</a>—“USPCA provides a one-stop shop for everything you need to effectively and efficiently manage your Personal Chef business with day to day support from the association as well as the NETWORK with other Personal Chefs to help you grow your Personal Chef business.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a> —Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obsessive%E2%80%93compulsive_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD)</a>—“a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mental_disorder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental disorder</a> in which a person feels the need to perform  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_behavior" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain routines repeatedly</a>  (called "compulsions"), or has  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_thoughts" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">certain thoughts repeatedly</a>  (called "obsessions"). [...] The phrase <em>obsessive–compulsive</em> is sometimes used in an informal manner unrelated to OCD to describe someone as being excessively meticulous, absorbed, or otherwise fixated.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/marzipan-521098" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Marzipan</a> from The Spruce Eats</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yoga</a>—“a group of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_body" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">physical</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mental</a> , and  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">spiritual</a>  practices or disciplines which originated in  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_India" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ancient India</a> .[...] The term "yoga" in the Western world often denotes a modern form of  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatha_yoga" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hatha yoga</a> ,  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga_as_exercise" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">yoga as exercise</a> , consisting largely of the postures called  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asana" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">asanas</a> .“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meditation</a>—“a practice where an individual uses a technique – such as  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">mindfulness</a> , or focusing their mind on a particular object, thought or activity – to train attention and awareness, and achieve a mentally clear and emotionally calm and stable state.”</li>
<li>“Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career.” Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/17" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 17 of Lettuce Wrap</a> “BBQ is a Little Mystical with Steven Hollifield of Seismic BBQ.</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Marissa for joining us. You can find her on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> Instagram <a href="https://instagram.com/fetefraichecooks" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@fetefraichecooks</a> and <a href="https://www.fetefraiche.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.fetefraiche.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Marissa Daskalakis Tsangaropoulos, Fete Fraiche.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>The lack of decent lunch options led Koji Kanematsu to launch Onigilly, serving onigiri—traditional Japanese rice balls—to busy American workers. He now has an ambitious mission to build Onigilly into a nationwide chain of at least 500 locations, as a healthier alternative to Subway and McDonald’s. He joins us to share his vision, how his early career in high tech and mobile gaming prepared him for the food business, and why the death of his childhood friend inspires him to always move forward.

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The end of this episode mentions the death of Koji’s friend by suicide. If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to suicidepreventionlifeline.org</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The lack of decent lunch options led Koji Kanematsu to launch Onigilly, serving onigiri—traditional Japanese rice balls—to busy American workers. He now has an ambitious mission to build Onigilly into a nationwide chain of at least 500 locations, as a healthier alternative to Subway and McDonald’s. He joins us to share his vision, how his early career in high tech and mobile gaming prepared him for the food business, and why the death of his childhood friend inspires him to always move forward.</p>

<p><em>The end of this episode mentions the death of Koji’s friend by suicide. If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.onigilly.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigilly - Japanese gourmet rice balls</a>—“ Healthy, Handy, Yummy! ONIGILLY [Oh-KNEE-Ghee-Lee] serves traditional Japanese rice balls made with partially milled organic brown rice and savory fillings wrapped in seaweed.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onigiri" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigiri - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spam musubi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.subway.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subway</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-fast-casual-dining-2888308" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fast Casual Dining</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">McDonald's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pacmoore.com/blog/food-startup-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Getting A Food Startup Off The Ground With A Co-Packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://foodtechconnect.com/2015/10/07/4-tips-for-scaling-your-food-startup-with-a-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">4 Tips For Scaling Your Food Startup With a Co-packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://offthegrid.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Off the Grid</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessloans.com/guide/non-profit-lenders/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Non-Profit Lenders</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pandaexpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Panda Express</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><em>If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<p>Our thanks to Koji for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/onigilly" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@onigilly</a> and <a href="http://www.onigilly.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.onigilly.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Koji Kanematsu, Onigilly.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The lack of decent lunch options led Koji Kanematsu to launch Onigilly, serving onigiri—traditional Japanese rice balls—to busy American workers. He now has an ambitious mission to build Onigilly into a nationwide chain of at least 500 locations, as a healthier alternative to Subway and McDonald’s. He joins us to share his vision, how his early career in high tech and mobile gaming prepared him for the food business, and why the death of his childhood friend inspires him to always move forward.</p>

<p><em>The end of this episode mentions the death of Koji’s friend by suicide. If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.onigilly.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigilly - Japanese gourmet rice balls</a>—“ Healthy, Handy, Yummy! ONIGILLY [Oh-KNEE-Ghee-Lee] serves traditional Japanese rice balls made with partially milled organic brown rice and savory fillings wrapped in seaweed.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onigiri" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigiri - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spam musubi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.subway.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subway</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-fast-casual-dining-2888308" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fast Casual Dining</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">McDonald's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pacmoore.com/blog/food-startup-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Getting A Food Startup Off The Ground With A Co-Packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://foodtechconnect.com/2015/10/07/4-tips-for-scaling-your-food-startup-with-a-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">4 Tips For Scaling Your Food Startup With a Co-packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://offthegrid.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Off the Grid</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessloans.com/guide/non-profit-lenders/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Non-Profit Lenders</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pandaexpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Panda Express</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><em>If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<p>Our thanks to Koji for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/onigilly" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@onigilly</a> and <a href="http://www.onigilly.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.onigilly.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Koji Kanematsu, Onigilly.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The lack of decent lunch options led Koji Kanematsu to launch Onigilly, serving onigiri—traditional Japanese rice balls—to busy American workers. He now has an ambitious mission to build Onigilly into a nationwide chain of at least 500 locations, as a healthier alternative to Subway and McDonald’s. He joins us to share his vision, how his early career in high tech and mobile gaming prepared him for the food business, and why the death of his childhood friend inspires him to always move forward.</p>

<p><em>The end of this episode mentions the death of Koji’s friend by suicide. If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.onigilly.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigilly - Japanese gourmet rice balls</a>—“ Healthy, Handy, Yummy! ONIGILLY [Oh-KNEE-Ghee-Lee] serves traditional Japanese rice balls made with partially milled organic brown rice and savory fillings wrapped in seaweed.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onigiri" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Onigiri - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spam_musubi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spam musubi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.subway.com/en-us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subway</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.thebalancesmb.com/what-is-fast-casual-dining-2888308" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fast Casual Dining</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">McDonald's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pacmoore.com/blog/food-startup-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Getting A Food Startup Off The Ground With A Co-Packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://foodtechconnect.com/2015/10/07/4-tips-for-scaling-your-food-startup-with-a-co-packer/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">4 Tips For Scaling Your Food Startup With a Co-packer</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://offthegrid.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Off the Grid</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessloans.com/guide/non-profit-lenders/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Non-Profit Lenders</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.pandaexpress.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Panda Express</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><em>If you or someone you know is considering suicide, please contact the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (8255), text “home” to the Crisis Text Line at 741-741 or go to <a href="http://suicidepreventionlifeline.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">suicidepreventionlifeline.org</a>.</em></p>

<p>Our thanks to Koji for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> Twitter <a href="https://twitter.com/onigilly" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@onigilly</a> and <a href="http://www.onigilly.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">www.onigilly.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career. He now runs two kitchen-based businesses, Seismic BBQ and South Basin Kitchen, and joins us to discuss how he got his start, shares some sobering realities of owning a catering business in San Francisco, and of course, talks barbecue, from sauces to its place in American history. Learn about the value of a good partner, great suggestions for great meals, and why even the chefs at Michelin-rated restaurants go to... Taco Bell?</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career. He now runs two kitchen-based businesses, Seismic BBQ and South Basin Kitchen, and joins us to discuss how he got his start, shares some sobering realities of owning a catering business in San Francisco, and of course, talks barbecue, from sauces to its place in American history. Learn about the value of a good partner, great suggestions for great meals, and why even the chefs at Michelin-rated restaurants go to... Taco Bell?</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a>—“BBQ so good, you’ll swear the earth shook”</li>
<li><a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF</a>—City College of San Francisco</li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/article/5/front-of-house-vs-back-of-house.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Front of house vs. Back of house</a>—“The front of the house, also called the FOH, refers to all actions and areas that a customer will be exposed to during their stay at a restaurant, such as the lobby and dining area.”  “The back of the house, also known as the BOH, encompasses all the behind-the-scenes areas that customers will not see. This acts as the central command center in a restaurant because it’s where the food is prepared, cooked, and plated before making its way to the customer’s table.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasy_spoon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Greasy spoon</a>—“a small, cheap eatery – either an American diner or coffee shop, or a British cafe – typically specializing in fried foods and/or home-cooked meals.”</li>
<li><a href="https://guide.michelin.com/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pastry chef</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.memphisminnies.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Memphis Minnie’s</a> BBQ, Lower Haight, San Francisco</li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rightoffirstrefusal.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Right of First Refusal</a>—“a contractual right, but not obligation,&nbsp;to enter into a business transaction with a person or company before anyone else can. If the entity with the right of first refusal declines to enter into a transaction, the owner of the asset who offered the right is free to open the bidding up to other interested parties.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sweatequity.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sweat Equity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/profitsharingplan.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Profit Sharing</a>
<a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
<li><a href="https://poachedjobs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poached Jobs</a>—Food, Drinks, Jobs</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous Chef</a>—“The sous-chef de cuisine is second in command, and translated it literally means ‘under chef’. The role will typically overlap with the head chef’s, but the sous chef will tend to be more hands on and actively involved in the day-to-day running of the kitchen; the sous chef will also fill in for the head chef when they are off....”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/08/401k-info.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">401(k)</a>—“a retirement savings account that allows an employee to divert a portion of his or her salary into a long-term investment account. The employer may match the employee's contribution up to a limit.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gig-economy.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Gig Economy</a>—“In a gig economy, temporary, flexible jobs are commonplace and companies tend toward hiring  independent contractors  and  freelancers  instead of full-time employees. A gig economy undermines the traditional economy of full-time workers who rarely change positions and instead focus on a lifetime career.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a>—Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2011/05/barbecue-sauce-regional-styles-mustard-vinegar-tomato-white-sauce.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Guide to American Barbecue Sauce Styles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/201302/regional-barbecue-sauce-styles-from-kansas-city-to-the-carolinas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Comprehensive Guide to Barbecue Sauce Across the Country</a></li>
<li><a href="http://garydanko.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Restaurant Gary Danko</a>—“award-winning combination of classic French cooking, thoughtful and inventive use of local ingredients and personable yet impeccable service.”
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisket" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Brisket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pork shoulder (aka Boston butt)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cultural appropriation</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ushistoryscene.com/article/slavery-southern-cuisine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Soul of Food, Slavery’s Influence on Southern Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://franklinbbq.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franklin’s BBQ, Austin TX</a></li>
<li><a href="http://pecanlodge.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pecan Lodge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/the-list-the-top-50-barbecue-joints-in-texas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The List: The Top 50 Barbecue Joints in Texas, Texas Monthly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">J&amp;R Manufacturing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com/products/smokers/the-little-red-smokehouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Steven’s smoker: J&amp;R Little Red Smokehouse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://biggreenegg.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Big Green Egg</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.primesteakhouses.com/how-usda-grades-beef.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Prime vs. Choice vs. Select cuts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taco Bell</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.maisonbaume.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Baume</a> Palo Alto, Michelin 2 star</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Multiple Sclerosis (MS)</a> (<a href="https://www.nationalmssociety.org/Donate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Please consider making a donation</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://piginapickle.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pig in a Pickle</a>, Corte Madeira, CA, <a href="https://kcbsradio.radio.com/blogs/jeffrey-schaub/pig-pickle-corte-madera-restaurant-named-michelin-bib-gourmand" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">first in Bay Area</a> to be named <a href="https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/article/news-and-views/michelin-guide-california-2019-bib-gourmand-selection" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Bib Gourmand</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.boulevardrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boulevard</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.farallonrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Farallon</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://perkos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Perko’s Cafe Grill</a>, Redding CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nomnomnow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nom Nom Now</a>—“Fresh food for healthy pets”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.ezcater.com/catering/pvt/seismic-bbq-3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Easy Caterer</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Steven for joining us. You can find Steven at <a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a> and <a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a>.</p>

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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a>—“BBQ so good, you’ll swear the earth shook”</li>
<li><a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF</a>—City College of San Francisco</li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/article/5/front-of-house-vs-back-of-house.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Front of house vs. Back of house</a>—“The front of the house, also called the FOH, refers to all actions and areas that a customer will be exposed to during their stay at a restaurant, such as the lobby and dining area.”  “The back of the house, also known as the BOH, encompasses all the behind-the-scenes areas that customers will not see. This acts as the central command center in a restaurant because it’s where the food is prepared, cooked, and plated before making its way to the customer’s table.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasy_spoon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Greasy spoon</a>—“a small, cheap eatery – either an American diner or coffee shop, or a British cafe – typically specializing in fried foods and/or home-cooked meals.”</li>
<li><a href="https://guide.michelin.com/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pastry chef</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.memphisminnies.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Memphis Minnie’s</a> BBQ, Lower Haight, San Francisco</li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rightoffirstrefusal.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Right of First Refusal</a>—“a contractual right, but not obligation,&nbsp;to enter into a business transaction with a person or company before anyone else can. If the entity with the right of first refusal declines to enter into a transaction, the owner of the asset who offered the right is free to open the bidding up to other interested parties.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sweatequity.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sweat Equity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/profitsharingplan.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Profit Sharing</a>
<a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
<li><a href="https://poachedjobs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poached Jobs</a>—Food, Drinks, Jobs</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous Chef</a>—“The sous-chef de cuisine is second in command, and translated it literally means ‘under chef’. The role will typically overlap with the head chef’s, but the sous chef will tend to be more hands on and actively involved in the day-to-day running of the kitchen; the sous chef will also fill in for the head chef when they are off....”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/08/401k-info.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">401(k)</a>—“a retirement savings account that allows an employee to divert a portion of his or her salary into a long-term investment account. The employer may match the employee's contribution up to a limit.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gig-economy.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Gig Economy</a>—“In a gig economy, temporary, flexible jobs are commonplace and companies tend toward hiring  independent contractors  and  freelancers  instead of full-time employees. A gig economy undermines the traditional economy of full-time workers who rarely change positions and instead focus on a lifetime career.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a>—Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2011/05/barbecue-sauce-regional-styles-mustard-vinegar-tomato-white-sauce.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Guide to American Barbecue Sauce Styles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/201302/regional-barbecue-sauce-styles-from-kansas-city-to-the-carolinas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Comprehensive Guide to Barbecue Sauce Across the Country</a></li>
<li><a href="http://garydanko.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Restaurant Gary Danko</a>—“award-winning combination of classic French cooking, thoughtful and inventive use of local ingredients and personable yet impeccable service.”
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisket" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Brisket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pork shoulder (aka Boston butt)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cultural appropriation</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ushistoryscene.com/article/slavery-southern-cuisine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Soul of Food, Slavery’s Influence on Southern Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://franklinbbq.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franklin’s BBQ, Austin TX</a></li>
<li><a href="http://pecanlodge.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pecan Lodge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/the-list-the-top-50-barbecue-joints-in-texas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The List: The Top 50 Barbecue Joints in Texas, Texas Monthly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">J&amp;R Manufacturing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com/products/smokers/the-little-red-smokehouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Steven’s smoker: J&amp;R Little Red Smokehouse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://biggreenegg.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Big Green Egg</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.primesteakhouses.com/how-usda-grades-beef.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Prime vs. Choice vs. Select cuts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taco Bell</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.maisonbaume.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Baume</a> Palo Alto, Michelin 2 star</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Multiple Sclerosis (MS)</a> (<a href="https://www.nationalmssociety.org/Donate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Please consider making a donation</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://piginapickle.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pig in a Pickle</a>, Corte Madeira, CA, <a href="https://kcbsradio.radio.com/blogs/jeffrey-schaub/pig-pickle-corte-madera-restaurant-named-michelin-bib-gourmand" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">first in Bay Area</a> to be named <a href="https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/article/news-and-views/michelin-guide-california-2019-bib-gourmand-selection" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Bib Gourmand</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.boulevardrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boulevard</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.farallonrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Farallon</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://perkos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Perko’s Cafe Grill</a>, Redding CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nomnomnow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nom Nom Now</a>—“Fresh food for healthy pets”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.ezcater.com/catering/pvt/seismic-bbq-3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Easy Caterer</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Steven for joining us. You can find Steven at <a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a> and <a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Steven Hollifield, Seismic BBQ.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Steven Hollifield walked into a kitchen dish-pit, found it magical, and remained in food service his entire career. He now runs two kitchen-based businesses, Seismic BBQ and South Basin Kitchen, and joins us to discuss how he got his start, shares some sobering realities of owning a catering business in San Francisco, and of course, talks barbecue, from sauces to its place in American history. Learn about the value of a good partner, great suggestions for great meals, and why even the chefs at Michelin-rated restaurants go to... Taco Bell?</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a>—“BBQ so good, you’ll swear the earth shook”</li>
<li><a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ccsf.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">CCSF</a>—City College of San Francisco</li>
<li><a href="https://www.webstaurantstore.com/article/5/front-of-house-vs-back-of-house.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Front of house vs. Back of house</a>—“The front of the house, also called the FOH, refers to all actions and areas that a customer will be exposed to during their stay at a restaurant, such as the lobby and dining area.”  “The back of the house, also known as the BOH, encompasses all the behind-the-scenes areas that customers will not see. This acts as the central command center in a restaurant because it’s where the food is prepared, cooked, and plated before making its way to the customer’s table.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasy_spoon" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Greasy spoon</a>—“a small, cheap eatery – either an American diner or coffee shop, or a British cafe – typically specializing in fried foods and/or home-cooked meals.”</li>
<li><a href="https://guide.michelin.com/en" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Guide</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pastry_chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pastry chef</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.memphisminnies.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Memphis Minnie’s</a> BBQ, Lower Haight, San Francisco</li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>  — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://www.legalzoom.com/knowledge/limited-liability-company/topic/llc-sole-proprietor-partnership-comparison" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sole Proprietor vs. Partnership vs. LLC</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/r/rightoffirstrefusal.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Right of First Refusal</a>—“a contractual right, but not obligation,&nbsp;to enter into a business transaction with a person or company before anyone else can. If the entity with the right of first refusal declines to enter into a transaction, the owner of the asset who offered the right is free to open the bidding up to other interested parties.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/sweatequity.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sweat Equity</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/profitsharingplan.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Profit Sharing</a>
<a href="https://craigslist.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Craig’s List</a></li>
<li><a href="https://poachedjobs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poached Jobs</a>—Food, Drinks, Jobs</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sous Chef</a>—“The sous-chef de cuisine is second in command, and translated it literally means ‘under chef’. The role will typically overlap with the head chef’s, but the sous chef will tend to be more hands on and actively involved in the day-to-day running of the kitchen; the sous chef will also fill in for the head chef when they are off....”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/articles/retirement/08/401k-info.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">401(k)</a>—“a retirement savings account that allows an employee to divert a portion of his or her salary into a long-term investment account. The employer may match the employee's contribution up to a limit.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/gig-economy.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Gig Economy</a>—“In a gig economy, temporary, flexible jobs are commonplace and companies tend toward hiring  independent contractors  and  freelancers  instead of full-time employees. A gig economy undermines the traditional economy of full-time workers who rarely change positions and instead focus on a lifetime career.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.pared.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pared</a>—Making restaurant life easier</li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2011/05/barbecue-sauce-regional-styles-mustard-vinegar-tomato-white-sauce.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Guide to American Barbecue Sauce Styles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/food-news/201302/regional-barbecue-sauce-styles-from-kansas-city-to-the-carolinas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Comprehensive Guide to Barbecue Sauce Across the Country</a></li>
<li><a href="http://garydanko.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Restaurant Gary Danko</a>—“award-winning combination of classic French cooking, thoughtful and inventive use of local ingredients and personable yet impeccable service.”
<a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brisket" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Brisket</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_butt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pork shoulder (aka Boston butt)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_appropriation" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cultural appropriation</a></li>
<li><a href="http://ushistoryscene.com/article/slavery-southern-cuisine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Soul of Food, Slavery’s Influence on Southern Cuisine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://franklinbbq.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franklin’s BBQ, Austin TX</a></li>
<li><a href="http://pecanlodge.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pecan Lodge</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.texasmonthly.com/food/the-list-the-top-50-barbecue-joints-in-texas/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The List: The Top 50 Barbecue Joints in Texas, Texas Monthly</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">J&amp;R Manufacturing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.jrmanufacturing.com/products/smokers/the-little-red-smokehouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Steven’s smoker: J&amp;R Little Red Smokehouse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://biggreenegg.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Big Green Egg</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.primesteakhouses.com/how-usda-grades-beef.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Prime vs. Choice vs. Select cuts</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.ams.usda.gov/grades-standards/slaughter-cattle-grades-and-standards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tacobell.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taco Bell</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.maisonbaume.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Baume</a> Palo Alto, Michelin 2 star</li>
<li><a href="http://www.nationalmssociety.org/What-is-MS" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Multiple Sclerosis (MS)</a> (<a href="https://www.nationalmssociety.org/Donate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Please consider making a donation</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://piginapickle.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pig in a Pickle</a>, Corte Madeira, CA, <a href="https://kcbsradio.radio.com/blogs/jeffrey-schaub/pig-pickle-corte-madera-restaurant-named-michelin-bib-gourmand" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">first in Bay Area</a> to be named <a href="https://guide.michelin.com/us/en/article/news-and-views/michelin-guide-california-2019-bib-gourmand-selection" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michelin Bib Gourmand</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.boulevardrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Boulevard</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.farallonrestaurant.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Farallon</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://perkos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Perko’s Cafe Grill</a>, Redding CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nomnomnow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nom Nom Now</a>—“Fresh food for healthy pets”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.ezcater.com/catering/pvt/seismic-bbq-3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Easy Caterer</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Steven for joining us. You can find Steven at <a href="https://www.seismicbbq.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seismic BBQ</a> and <a href="http://southbasinkitchensf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">South Basin Kitchen SF</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap: <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @lettucewrappod</a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan: <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @spicehound</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Steven Hollifield, Seismic BBQ.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>It was unusually warm in San Francisco in early June, so we took a quick break from interviews to chat with each other about ice cream to keep us cool during these rare, warm San Francisco evenings. If you live in—or plan to visit—San Francisco, consider this a guide to delicious, creamy treats.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It was unusually warm in San Francisco in early June, so we took a quick break from interviews to chat with each other about ice cream to keep us cool during these rare, warm San Francisco evenings. If you live in—or plan to visit—San Francisco, consider this a guide to delicious, creamy treats.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap 8: The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li>Make your own waffle bowls: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S204Qk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">DASH Waffle Bowl Maker</a> (Amazon) 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ashleemarie.com/homemade-waffle-cones-bowls/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Homemade Waffle Cones and Bowls | Ashlee Marie - real fun with real food</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.unicornlove.com/blog/2010/7/28/the-lovely-cones-an-examination-of-waffle-wafer-and-sugar-co.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Lovely Cones: An Examination of Waffle, Wafer, and Sugar Cones — Jessie Unicorn Moore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/ghirardellis-hot-fudge-sauce-rec1070-p" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli's Hot Fudge Sauce</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.molecularrecipes.com/ice-cream-class/perfect-ice-cream-base/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Perfect Ice Cream Base | Molecular Recipes</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.donbugito.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Don Bugito </a>, “the <em>Prehispanic Snackeria</em>, is a San Francisco based company focused on planet-friendly protein snacks, featuring delicious edible insects in savory and sweet flavors.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Ice Cream Recipe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://gilroygarlicfestival.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Festival</a>, July 26, 27 &amp; 28, 2019</li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/cable-cars" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cable Cars | SFMTA</a> </li>
</ul>

<h3>San Francisco Ice Cream</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.smittenicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Smitten Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.coldstonecreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cold Stone Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.baskinrobbins.com/content/baskinrobbins/en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baskin-Robbins</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.swensensicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Swensen's Grill &amp; Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/StoreLocations-SanFrancisco-Original" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Original Ghirardelli Ice Cream &amp; Chocolate at Ghirardelli Square</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dreyers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dreyer's Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://threetwinsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Three Twins Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.humphryslocombe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Humphry Slocombe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.strausfamilycreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Straus Family Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/draculas-blood-pudding/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dracula's Blood Pudding - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/salted-caramel-thanksgiving-turkey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salted Caramel Thanksgiving Turkey - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Mr-and-Mrs-Miscellaneous-126193770733086/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mr. and Mrs. Miscellaneous</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gardencreamery.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garden Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://mitchellsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mitchell’s Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/doublerainbowicecream" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Trader Joe's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.itsiticecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">It's it Ice Cream</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It was unusually warm in San Francisco in early June, so we took a quick break from interviews to chat with each other about ice cream to keep us cool during these rare, warm San Francisco evenings. If you live in—or plan to visit—San Francisco, consider this a guide to delicious, creamy treats.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap 8: The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li>Make your own waffle bowls: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S204Qk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">DASH Waffle Bowl Maker</a> (Amazon) 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ashleemarie.com/homemade-waffle-cones-bowls/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Homemade Waffle Cones and Bowls | Ashlee Marie - real fun with real food</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.unicornlove.com/blog/2010/7/28/the-lovely-cones-an-examination-of-waffle-wafer-and-sugar-co.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Lovely Cones: An Examination of Waffle, Wafer, and Sugar Cones — Jessie Unicorn Moore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/ghirardellis-hot-fudge-sauce-rec1070-p" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli's Hot Fudge Sauce</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.molecularrecipes.com/ice-cream-class/perfect-ice-cream-base/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Perfect Ice Cream Base | Molecular Recipes</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.donbugito.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Don Bugito </a>, “the <em>Prehispanic Snackeria</em>, is a San Francisco based company focused on planet-friendly protein snacks, featuring delicious edible insects in savory and sweet flavors.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Ice Cream Recipe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://gilroygarlicfestival.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Festival</a>, July 26, 27 &amp; 28, 2019</li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/cable-cars" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cable Cars | SFMTA</a> </li>
</ul>

<h3>San Francisco Ice Cream</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.smittenicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Smitten Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.coldstonecreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cold Stone Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.baskinrobbins.com/content/baskinrobbins/en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baskin-Robbins</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.swensensicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Swensen's Grill &amp; Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/StoreLocations-SanFrancisco-Original" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Original Ghirardelli Ice Cream &amp; Chocolate at Ghirardelli Square</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dreyers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dreyer's Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://threetwinsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Three Twins Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.humphryslocombe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Humphry Slocombe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.strausfamilycreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Straus Family Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/draculas-blood-pudding/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dracula's Blood Pudding - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/salted-caramel-thanksgiving-turkey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salted Caramel Thanksgiving Turkey - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Mr-and-Mrs-Miscellaneous-126193770733086/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mr. and Mrs. Miscellaneous</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gardencreamery.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garden Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://mitchellsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mitchell’s Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/doublerainbowicecream" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Trader Joe's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.itsiticecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">It's it Ice Cream</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>It was unusually warm in San Francisco in early June, so we took a quick break from interviews to chat with each other about ice cream to keep us cool during these rare, warm San Francisco evenings. If you live in—or plan to visit—San Francisco, consider this a guide to delicious, creamy treats.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li>Listen to <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap 8: The Ice Cream Atmosphere, with Lori Phillips of Rocko’s Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li>Make your own waffle bowls: <a href="https://amzn.to/2S204Qk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">DASH Waffle Bowl Maker</a> (Amazon) 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://ashleemarie.com/homemade-waffle-cones-bowls/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Homemade Waffle Cones and Bowls | Ashlee Marie - real fun with real food</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.unicornlove.com/blog/2010/7/28/the-lovely-cones-an-examination-of-waffle-wafer-and-sugar-co.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Lovely Cones: An Examination of Waffle, Wafer, and Sugar Cones — Jessie Unicorn Moore</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/ghirardellis-hot-fudge-sauce-rec1070-p" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli's Hot Fudge Sauce</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.molecularrecipes.com/ice-cream-class/perfect-ice-cream-base/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Perfect Ice Cream Base | Molecular Recipes</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.donbugito.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Don Bugito </a>, “the <em>Prehispanic Snackeria</em>, is a San Francisco based company focused on planet-friendly protein snacks, featuring delicious edible insects in savory and sweet flavors.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Ice Cream Recipe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://gilroygarlicfestival.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gilroy Garlic Festival</a>, July 26, 27 &amp; 28, 2019</li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfmta.com/getting-around/muni/cable-cars" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cable Cars | SFMTA</a> </li>
</ul>

<h3>San Francisco Ice Cream</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.smittenicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Smitten Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.coldstonecreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cold Stone Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.baskinrobbins.com/content/baskinrobbins/en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baskin-Robbins</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.swensensicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Swensen's Grill &amp; Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/StoreLocations-SanFrancisco-Original" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Original Ghirardelli Ice Cream &amp; Chocolate at Ghirardelli Square</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dreyers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dreyer's Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://threetwinsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Three Twins Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.humphryslocombe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Humphry Slocombe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.strausfamilycreamery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Straus Family Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/draculas-blood-pudding/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dracula's Blood Pudding - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/salted-caramel-thanksgiving-turkey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salted Caramel Thanksgiving Turkey - Ice Cream Flavor | Salt &amp; Straw</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/Mr-and-Mrs-Miscellaneous-126193770733086/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mr. and Mrs. Miscellaneous</a></li>
<li><a href="http://gardencreamery.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garden Creamery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://mitchellsicecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mitchell’s Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/doublerainbowicecream" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.traderjoes.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Trader Joe's</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.itsiticecream.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">It's it Ice Cream</a> </li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Joel Sakakihara and his brother updated their grandfather’s 60 year old toffee recipe, and built a business that’s grown from farmer’s markets to Costco and Whole Foods. Joel joins us to chat about the complexities of running a rapidly-growing food business, advice for starting a food business of your own, and how he launched the company with... Arnold Schwarzenegger? Plus, the return of our favorite segment, Wrap-id Fire!</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka.</strong></p>

<p>Joel Sakakihara and his brother updated their grandfather’s 60 year old toffee recipe, and built a business that’s grown from farmer’s markets to Costco and Whole Foods. Joel joins us to chat about the complexities of running a rapidly-growing food business, advice for starting a food business of your own, and how he launched the company with... Arnold Schwarzenegger? Plus, the return of our favorite segment, <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.usability.gov/how-to-and-tools/methods/focus-groups.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Focus group testing</a>—“a moderated discussion that typically involves 5 to 10 participants.  Through a focus group, you can learn about users’ attitudes, beliefs, desires, and reactions to concepts.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/the-other-chocolate-chip-carob-chips-ingredient-spotlight-177413" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carob chips</a>—“Carob chips are made from the pod of the carob tree, a small Mediterranean shrub. The pods are dried, roasted, and ground into carob powder before being made into chips or used in other applications. Carob is less bitter than chocolate and has a natural sweetness. The chips require little or no added sugar to make them palatable. To me, carob chips have a roasted flavor that makes them similar to chocolate, but lack chocolate’s richness and melty texture.” </li>
<li><a href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/encyclopedia/competitive-analysis" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Competitive analysis</a>—“a critical part of your company marketing plan. With this evaluation, you can establish what makes your product or service unique—and therefore what attributes you play up in order to attract your target market.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mission statement</a>—“ a short statement of why an organization exists, what its overall goal is, identifying the goal of its operations: what kind of product or service it provides, its primary customers or market, and its geographical region of operation.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Net-30</a>—“The notation ‘net 30’ indicates that full payment is expected within 30 days. If a $1000 invoice has the terms ‘net 30’, the buyer must pay the full $1000 within 30 days.” “Net 30 […] terms are often coupled with a credit for early payment.”</li>
<li><a href="https://organizedassistant.com/net-30/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What is Net 30 &amp; why is it (probably) bad for my business?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/accrual-accounting.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cash vs. Accrual</a>—“The main difference between accrual and cash basis accounting lies in the timing of when revenue and expenses are recognized. The cash method is a more immediate recognition of revenue and expenses while the accrual method focuses on anticipated revenue and expenses.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.indinero.com/blog/how-choosing-your-fiscal-year-affects-your-business-taxes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiscal year vs. calendar year</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.deanza.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">De Anza College</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.iso.org/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ISO - International Organization for Standardization</a>—“an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 164 national standards bodies”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.fda.gov/food/guidance-regulation-food-and-dietary-supplements/hazard-analysis-critical-control-point-haccp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">HACCP plans</a>: Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point—“a management system in which food safety is addressed through the analysis and control of biological, chemical, and physical hazards from raw material production, procurement and handling, to manufacturing, distribution and consumption of the finished product.“</li>
<li><a href="https://pecb.com/article/difference-between-haccp-and-iso-22000" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Difference Between HACCP and ISO 22000</a></li>
<li><a href="http://baysidefood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bayside Food Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolates</a></li>
<li>Almonds from <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/modesto-ca/almonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Modesto</a> and <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/search.jsp?jmp&amp;scale=7&amp;lat=36.83886&amp;lon=-119.800964&amp;nm=prods%3Aalmonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fresno</a>, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.chsugar.com/home" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">C&amp;H Sugar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.challengedairy.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Challenge Dairy butter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.californiadairies.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Dairies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nga.org/governor/arnold-schwarzenegger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wine.woot.com/plus/rjs-handcrafted-almond-toffee-3-11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;J Toffees on Woot</a></li>
<li>Annual Fourth of July <a href="https://nathansfamous.com/hot-dog-eating-contest/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hot Dog Eating Contest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/professor-x" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Professor Xavier, X-Men</a></li>
<li>McDonald’s <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/double-quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese</a> and <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/small-french-fries.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fries</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.in-n-out.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">In-N-Out Burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5542447" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates vs. Ninjas</a></li>
<li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/pirates-caribbean-curse-black-pearl-original-soundtrack/1440649561?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lc015" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack</a> on iTunes</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka</strong></p>

<p>In this episode, we mention Joel’s cousin James, and the beautiful work he did designing the packaging for R&amp;J Toffees as the company's Creative Director. Shortly after we recorded, James passed away unexpectedly at the age of 44. R&amp;J Toffees is a family affair, and our hearts go out to the entire Yamaoka, Sakakihara, and R&amp;J Toffees family.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/jiNdPTyG.jpeg" alt="James Yamaoka"></p>

<p>Our thanks to Joel for joining us. You can find R&amp;J Toffee on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rjtoffees/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px">  (@rjtoffees)</a> and on the web at <a href="https://www.rjtoffees.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rjtoffees.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Joel Sakakihara, R&amp;J Toffees.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka.</strong></p>

<p>Joel Sakakihara and his brother updated their grandfather’s 60 year old toffee recipe, and built a business that’s grown from farmer’s markets to Costco and Whole Foods. Joel joins us to chat about the complexities of running a rapidly-growing food business, advice for starting a food business of your own, and how he launched the company with... Arnold Schwarzenegger? Plus, the return of our favorite segment, <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.usability.gov/how-to-and-tools/methods/focus-groups.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Focus group testing</a>—“a moderated discussion that typically involves 5 to 10 participants.  Through a focus group, you can learn about users’ attitudes, beliefs, desires, and reactions to concepts.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/the-other-chocolate-chip-carob-chips-ingredient-spotlight-177413" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carob chips</a>—“Carob chips are made from the pod of the carob tree, a small Mediterranean shrub. The pods are dried, roasted, and ground into carob powder before being made into chips or used in other applications. Carob is less bitter than chocolate and has a natural sweetness. The chips require little or no added sugar to make them palatable. To me, carob chips have a roasted flavor that makes them similar to chocolate, but lack chocolate’s richness and melty texture.” </li>
<li><a href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/encyclopedia/competitive-analysis" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Competitive analysis</a>—“a critical part of your company marketing plan. With this evaluation, you can establish what makes your product or service unique—and therefore what attributes you play up in order to attract your target market.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mission statement</a>—“ a short statement of why an organization exists, what its overall goal is, identifying the goal of its operations: what kind of product or service it provides, its primary customers or market, and its geographical region of operation.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Net-30</a>—“The notation ‘net 30’ indicates that full payment is expected within 30 days. If a $1000 invoice has the terms ‘net 30’, the buyer must pay the full $1000 within 30 days.” “Net 30 […] terms are often coupled with a credit for early payment.”</li>
<li><a href="https://organizedassistant.com/net-30/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What is Net 30 &amp; why is it (probably) bad for my business?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/accrual-accounting.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cash vs. Accrual</a>—“The main difference between accrual and cash basis accounting lies in the timing of when revenue and expenses are recognized. The cash method is a more immediate recognition of revenue and expenses while the accrual method focuses on anticipated revenue and expenses.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.indinero.com/blog/how-choosing-your-fiscal-year-affects-your-business-taxes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiscal year vs. calendar year</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.deanza.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">De Anza College</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.iso.org/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ISO - International Organization for Standardization</a>—“an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 164 national standards bodies”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.fda.gov/food/guidance-regulation-food-and-dietary-supplements/hazard-analysis-critical-control-point-haccp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">HACCP plans</a>: Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point—“a management system in which food safety is addressed through the analysis and control of biological, chemical, and physical hazards from raw material production, procurement and handling, to manufacturing, distribution and consumption of the finished product.“</li>
<li><a href="https://pecb.com/article/difference-between-haccp-and-iso-22000" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Difference Between HACCP and ISO 22000</a></li>
<li><a href="http://baysidefood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bayside Food Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolates</a></li>
<li>Almonds from <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/modesto-ca/almonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Modesto</a> and <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/search.jsp?jmp&amp;scale=7&amp;lat=36.83886&amp;lon=-119.800964&amp;nm=prods%3Aalmonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fresno</a>, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.chsugar.com/home" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">C&amp;H Sugar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.challengedairy.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Challenge Dairy butter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.californiadairies.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Dairies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nga.org/governor/arnold-schwarzenegger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wine.woot.com/plus/rjs-handcrafted-almond-toffee-3-11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;J Toffees on Woot</a></li>
<li>Annual Fourth of July <a href="https://nathansfamous.com/hot-dog-eating-contest/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hot Dog Eating Contest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/professor-x" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Professor Xavier, X-Men</a></li>
<li>McDonald’s <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/double-quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese</a> and <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/small-french-fries.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fries</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.in-n-out.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">In-N-Out Burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5542447" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates vs. Ninjas</a></li>
<li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/pirates-caribbean-curse-black-pearl-original-soundtrack/1440649561?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lc015" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack</a> on iTunes</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka</strong></p>

<p>In this episode, we mention Joel’s cousin James, and the beautiful work he did designing the packaging for R&amp;J Toffees as the company's Creative Director. Shortly after we recorded, James passed away unexpectedly at the age of 44. R&amp;J Toffees is a family affair, and our hearts go out to the entire Yamaoka, Sakakihara, and R&amp;J Toffees family.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/jiNdPTyG.jpeg" alt="James Yamaoka"></p>

<p>Our thanks to Joel for joining us. You can find R&amp;J Toffee on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rjtoffees/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px">  (@rjtoffees)</a> and on the web at <a href="https://www.rjtoffees.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rjtoffees.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Joel Sakakihara, R&amp;J Toffees.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka.</strong></p>

<p>Joel Sakakihara and his brother updated their grandfather’s 60 year old toffee recipe, and built a business that’s grown from farmer’s markets to Costco and Whole Foods. Joel joins us to chat about the complexities of running a rapidly-growing food business, advice for starting a food business of your own, and how he launched the company with... Arnold Schwarzenegger? Plus, the return of our favorite segment, <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.usability.gov/how-to-and-tools/methods/focus-groups.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Focus group testing</a>—“a moderated discussion that typically involves 5 to 10 participants.  Through a focus group, you can learn about users’ attitudes, beliefs, desires, and reactions to concepts.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/the-other-chocolate-chip-carob-chips-ingredient-spotlight-177413" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Carob chips</a>—“Carob chips are made from the pod of the carob tree, a small Mediterranean shrub. The pods are dried, roasted, and ground into carob powder before being made into chips or used in other applications. Carob is less bitter than chocolate and has a natural sweetness. The chips require little or no added sugar to make them palatable. To me, carob chips have a roasted flavor that makes them similar to chocolate, but lack chocolate’s richness and melty texture.” </li>
<li><a href="https://www.entrepreneur.com/encyclopedia/competitive-analysis" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Competitive analysis</a>—“a critical part of your company marketing plan. With this evaluation, you can establish what makes your product or service unique—and therefore what attributes you play up in order to attract your target market.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_statement" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mission statement</a>—“ a short statement of why an organization exists, what its overall goal is, identifying the goal of its operations: what kind of product or service it provides, its primary customers or market, and its geographical region of operation.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Net-30</a>—“The notation ‘net 30’ indicates that full payment is expected within 30 days. If a $1000 invoice has the terms ‘net 30’, the buyer must pay the full $1000 within 30 days.” “Net 30 […] terms are often coupled with a credit for early payment.”</li>
<li><a href="https://organizedassistant.com/net-30/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What is Net 30 &amp; why is it (probably) bad for my business?</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/09/accrual-accounting.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cash vs. Accrual</a>—“The main difference between accrual and cash basis accounting lies in the timing of when revenue and expenses are recognized. The cash method is a more immediate recognition of revenue and expenses while the accrual method focuses on anticipated revenue and expenses.”<br></li>
<li><a href="https://www.indinero.com/blog/how-choosing-your-fiscal-year-affects-your-business-taxes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiscal year vs. calendar year</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.deanza.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">De Anza College</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.iso.org/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">ISO - International Organization for Standardization</a>—“an independent, non-governmental international organization with a membership of 164 national standards bodies”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.fda.gov/food/guidance-regulation-food-and-dietary-supplements/hazard-analysis-critical-control-point-haccp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">HACCP plans</a>: Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point—“a management system in which food safety is addressed through the analysis and control of biological, chemical, and physical hazards from raw material production, procurement and handling, to manufacturing, distribution and consumption of the finished product.“</li>
<li><a href="https://pecb.com/article/difference-between-haccp-and-iso-22000" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Difference Between HACCP and ISO 22000</a></li>
<li><a href="http://baysidefood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bayside Food Group</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolates</a></li>
<li>Almonds from <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/modesto-ca/almonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Modesto</a> and <a href="https://www.localharvest.org/search.jsp?jmp&amp;scale=7&amp;lat=36.83886&amp;lon=-119.800964&amp;nm=prods%3Aalmonds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fresno</a>, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.chsugar.com/home" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">C&amp;H Sugar</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.challengedairy.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Challenge Dairy butter</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.californiadairies.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Dairies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nga.org/governor/arnold-schwarzenegger/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Arnold Schwarzenegger</a></li>
<li><a href="https://wine.woot.com/plus/rjs-handcrafted-almond-toffee-3-11" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">R&amp;J Toffees on Woot</a></li>
<li>Annual Fourth of July <a href="https://nathansfamous.com/hot-dog-eating-contest/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hot Dog Eating Contest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marvel.com/characters/professor-x" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Professor Xavier, X-Men</a></li>
<li>McDonald’s <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/double-quarter-pounder-with-cheese.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Quarter Pounder with Cheese</a> and <a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/small-french-fries.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fries</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.in-n-out.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">In-N-Out Burgers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5542447" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates vs. Ninjas</a></li>
<li><a href="https://music.apple.com/us/album/pirates-caribbean-curse-black-pearl-original-soundtrack/1440649561?mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lc015" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pirates of the Caribbean soundtrack</a> on iTunes</li>
</ul>

<p><strong>This episode is dedicated to James Yamaoka</strong></p>

<p>In this episode, we mention Joel’s cousin James, and the beautiful work he did designing the packaging for R&amp;J Toffees as the company's Creative Director. Shortly after we recorded, James passed away unexpectedly at the age of 44. R&amp;J Toffees is a family affair, and our hearts go out to the entire Yamaoka, Sakakihara, and R&amp;J Toffees family.</p>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/jiNdPTyG.jpeg" alt="James Yamaoka"></p>

<p>Our thanks to Joel for joining us. You can find R&amp;J Toffee on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/rjtoffees/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px">  (@rjtoffees)</a> and on the web at <a href="https://www.rjtoffees.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rjtoffees.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Joel Sakakihara, R&amp;J Toffees.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Award-winning pastry chef Robert Hac joins us to taste some of the best chocolate croissants in San Francisco. Robert is the pastry chef at Sons &amp; Daughters, where he builds seasonal desserts inspired by memories of the foods he ate as a kid. He traces his love of cooking to his grandma, and the dumplings and mochi they made together. We talk about the start of his decade-plus career before Robert shares the essential trait needed to enter the culinary world, creeps himself out from his open kitchen, and defends the artisan creator. And what in the world does Jackson Pollock have to do with dessert? Tune in to find out!</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Award-winning pastry chef Robert Hac joins us to taste some of the best chocolate croissants in San Francisco. Robert is the pastry chef at Sons &amp; Daughters, where he builds seasonal desserts inspired by memories of the foods he ate as a kid. He traces his love of cooking to his grandma, and the dumplings and mochi they made together. We talk about the start of his decade-plus career before Robert shares the essential trait needed to enter the culinary world, creeps himself out from his open kitchen, and defends the artisan creator. And what in the world does Jackson Pollock have to do with dessert? Tune in to find out!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/1NJKUkFD.jpg" alt="The ten croissants we tasted for episode 14, Two Whole Croissants"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/best-chef-awards-2017" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2017 Pastry Chef of the Year, San Francisco Magazine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://secondactsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Second Act Marketplace</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfcooking.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Cooking School</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-business/CulinaryArtsAndHospitalityStudies.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">City College of San Francisco Culinary Arts and Hospitality Studies program</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>—“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thomaskeller.com/tfl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Laundry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/our-beans/camino-verde/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Camino Verde chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruffin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cruffin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1hs9DyCkVRfP28NV5ZtLb2nj07yswDgvm&amp;ll=37.769986599968426%2C-122.43076464211424&amp;z=14" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Croissant map</a>
<img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/eVY8xH7H.jpg" alt="Lettuce Wrap Chocolate Croissant map"></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Robert for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrroberthac/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@mrroberthac)</a> and at <a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
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<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Robert Hac, Sons &amp; Daughters.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Award-winning pastry chef Robert Hac joins us to taste some of the best chocolate croissants in San Francisco. Robert is the pastry chef at Sons &amp; Daughters, where he builds seasonal desserts inspired by memories of the foods he ate as a kid. He traces his love of cooking to his grandma, and the dumplings and mochi they made together. We talk about the start of his decade-plus career before Robert shares the essential trait needed to enter the culinary world, creeps himself out from his open kitchen, and defends the artisan creator. And what in the world does Jackson Pollock have to do with dessert? Tune in to find out!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/1NJKUkFD.jpg" alt="The ten croissants we tasted for episode 14, Two Whole Croissants"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/best-chef-awards-2017" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2017 Pastry Chef of the Year, San Francisco Magazine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://secondactsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Second Act Marketplace</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfcooking.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Cooking School</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-business/CulinaryArtsAndHospitalityStudies.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">City College of San Francisco Culinary Arts and Hospitality Studies program</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>—“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thomaskeller.com/tfl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Laundry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/our-beans/camino-verde/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Camino Verde chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruffin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cruffin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1hs9DyCkVRfP28NV5ZtLb2nj07yswDgvm&amp;ll=37.769986599968426%2C-122.43076464211424&amp;z=14" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Croissant map</a>
<img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/eVY8xH7H.jpg" alt="Lettuce Wrap Chocolate Croissant map"></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Robert for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrroberthac/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@mrroberthac)</a> and at <a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li>Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod): <a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>
/ <a href="https://instagram.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
<li>Christine Doerr: <a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> @christinedoerr</a> / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/neococoaconfections/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> @neococoaconfections</a> </li>
<li>Tammy Tan (@spicehound): <a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"></a>) / <a href="https://www.instagram.com/spicehound/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"></a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/6-9Jt3Dk.PNG" alt="Email icon" height="24px"> lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Robert Hac, Sons &amp; Daughters.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Award-winning pastry chef Robert Hac joins us to taste some of the best chocolate croissants in San Francisco. Robert is the pastry chef at Sons &amp; Daughters, where he builds seasonal desserts inspired by memories of the foods he ate as a kid. He traces his love of cooking to his grandma, and the dumplings and mochi they made together. We talk about the start of his decade-plus career before Robert shares the essential trait needed to enter the culinary world, creeps himself out from his open kitchen, and defends the artisan creator. And what in the world does Jackson Pollock have to do with dessert? Tune in to find out!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/1NJKUkFD.jpg" alt="The ten croissants we tasted for episode 14, Two Whole Croissants"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/best-chef-awards-2017" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2017 Pastry Chef of the Year, San Francisco Magazine</a></li>
<li><a href="http://secondactsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Second Act Marketplace</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Culinary_Academy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">California Culinary Academy</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfcooking.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Cooking School</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.ccsf.edu/en/educational-programs/school-and-departments/school-of-business/CulinaryArtsAndHospitalityStudies.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">City College of San Francisco Culinary Arts and Hospitality Studies program</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a>—“An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thomaskeller.com/tfl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Laundry</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/our-beans/camino-verde/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Camino Verde chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruffin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cruffin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1hs9DyCkVRfP28NV5ZtLb2nj07yswDgvm&amp;ll=37.769986599968426%2C-122.43076464211424&amp;z=14" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Croissant map</a>
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</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Robert for joining us. You can find him on <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <a href="https://www.instagram.com/mrroberthac/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@mrroberthac)</a> and at <a href="https://www.sonsanddaughterssf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sons &amp; Daughters</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/PDebDp-r.PNG" alt="Twitter icon" height="24px"> <strong>Twitter and</strong> <img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/FtMo2DZd.PNG" alt="Instagram icon" height="24px"> <strong>Instagram:</strong></p>

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<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Robert Hac, Sons &amp; Daughters.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.metro.com/Shelving" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metro rack shelving</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lowes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lowes</a> / <a href="https://www.homedepot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Depot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/chocolateCoolingTunnel200-250.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Cooling Tunnel (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/selmi-one-chocolate-tempering-machine.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Continuous Tempering Machines (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutti_frutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tutti Frutti</a></li>
<li>Elyce’s jam recipe:

<ul>
<li>3/4 fruit</li>
<li>1/4 sugar</li>
<li>2-4% pectin</li>
<li>“minimal” lemon juice</li>
<li>fruit sieved three or four times</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.score.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SCORE</a>—“the nation’s largest network of volunteer, expert business mentors, with more than 10,000 volunteers in 300 chapters.” </li>
<li><a href="https://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shark Tank</a>—“The Sharks give budding entrepreneurs the chance to secure business deals that could make them millionaires.”</li>
<li><a href="http://colorblendcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">PurColor/Color Blend Creations</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefrubber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chef Rubber</a>—“provides Artisan Chefs the finest components with which one refines creative inspiration.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap #3: These Shows Stress Me Out</a>, where we talk briefly about <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fourrosesbourbon.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Four Roses Bourbon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nikka.com/eng/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nikka Japanese Whisky</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p-45_Weber.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Night Riders/Japanese Internment</a>—“In the six months following the end of the evacuation program there were some 30 attacks by West Coast people against returning inmates. Near Fresno and other places, night riders shot into the homes of newly returned families Anti-Japanese organizations sprang up in the Northwest and in California.”
<a href="https://amzn.to/2WaRxQx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Color is Your Parachute?</a> (Amazon)—More than 10 million copies sold of this book that “demystifies the entire job-search process, from writing resumes to interviewing to networking, expertly guiding job-hunters toward their dream job.” </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Elyce for joining us. You can find her at <a href="https://twitter.com/cocotutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@cocotutti</a> and <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cocotutti.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Elyce Zahn, Coco Tutti Chocolates.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.metro.com/Shelving" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metro rack shelving</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lowes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lowes</a> / <a href="https://www.homedepot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Depot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/chocolateCoolingTunnel200-250.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Cooling Tunnel (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/selmi-one-chocolate-tempering-machine.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Continuous Tempering Machines (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutti_frutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tutti Frutti</a></li>
<li>Elyce’s jam recipe:

<ul>
<li>3/4 fruit</li>
<li>1/4 sugar</li>
<li>2-4% pectin</li>
<li>“minimal” lemon juice</li>
<li>fruit sieved three or four times</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.score.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SCORE</a>—“the nation’s largest network of volunteer, expert business mentors, with more than 10,000 volunteers in 300 chapters.” </li>
<li><a href="https://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shark Tank</a>—“The Sharks give budding entrepreneurs the chance to secure business deals that could make them millionaires.”</li>
<li><a href="http://colorblendcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">PurColor/Color Blend Creations</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefrubber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chef Rubber</a>—“provides Artisan Chefs the finest components with which one refines creative inspiration.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap #3: These Shows Stress Me Out</a>, where we talk briefly about <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fourrosesbourbon.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Four Roses Bourbon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nikka.com/eng/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nikka Japanese Whisky</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p-45_Weber.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Night Riders/Japanese Internment</a>—“In the six months following the end of the evacuation program there were some 30 attacks by West Coast people against returning inmates. Near Fresno and other places, night riders shot into the homes of newly returned families Anti-Japanese organizations sprang up in the Northwest and in California.”
<a href="https://amzn.to/2WaRxQx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Color is Your Parachute?</a> (Amazon)—More than 10 million copies sold of this book that “demystifies the entire job-search process, from writing resumes to interviewing to networking, expertly guiding job-hunters toward their dream job.” </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Elyce for joining us. You can find her at <a href="https://twitter.com/cocotutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@cocotutti</a> and <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cocotutti.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Elyce Zahn, Coco Tutti Chocolates.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.metro.com/Shelving" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Metro rack shelving</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lowes.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lowes</a> / <a href="https://www.homedepot.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Depot</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/chocolateCoolingTunnel200-250.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate Cooling Tunnel (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.selmi-group.com/selmi-one-chocolate-tempering-machine.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Continuous Tempering Machines (Selmi)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutti_frutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tutti Frutti</a></li>
<li>Elyce’s jam recipe:

<ul>
<li>3/4 fruit</li>
<li>1/4 sugar</li>
<li>2-4% pectin</li>
<li>“minimal” lemon juice</li>
<li>fruit sieved three or four times</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.score.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SCORE</a>—“the nation’s largest network of volunteer, expert business mentors, with more than 10,000 volunteers in 300 chapters.” </li>
<li><a href="https://abc.go.com/shows/shark-tank" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shark Tank</a>—“The Sharks give budding entrepreneurs the chance to secure business deals that could make them millionaires.”</li>
<li><a href="http://colorblendcreations.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">PurColor/Color Blend Creations</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefrubber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chef Rubber</a>—“provides Artisan Chefs the finest components with which one refines creative inspiration.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap #3: These Shows Stress Me Out</a>, where we talk briefly about <a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a></li>
<li><a href="https://fourrosesbourbon.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Four Roses Bourbon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nikka.com/eng/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nikka Japanese Whisky</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v02/v02p-45_Weber.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Night Riders/Japanese Internment</a>—“In the six months following the end of the evacuation program there were some 30 attacks by West Coast people against returning inmates. Near Fresno and other places, night riders shot into the homes of newly returned families Anti-Japanese organizations sprang up in the Northwest and in California.”
<a href="https://amzn.to/2WaRxQx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Color is Your Parachute?</a> (Amazon)—More than 10 million copies sold of this book that “demystifies the entire job-search process, from writing resumes to interviewing to networking, expertly guiding job-hunters toward their dream job.” </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Elyce for joining us. You can find her at <a href="https://twitter.com/cocotutti" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@cocotutti</a> and <a href="" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">https://www.cocotutti.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Elyce Zahn, Coco Tutti Chocolates.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mirit Cohen was “executive chef” of her family’s large dinner gatherings long before becoming Executive Chef at Google and Adobe, as well as CEO of her own “daily foodservice” business. Now Adobe’s Global Workplace Experience Programs Manager, Mirit shares her advice about the importance of identifying your market, the hazards of scaling too quickly, the right way to shut down a business, and why she believes sharing a meal is the original social networking.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://adobe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gastronautsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastronaut </a></li>
<li><a href="https://eatretreat.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Retreat</a>—“A creative retreat and national community of food leaders”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bernal-heights-hottest-neighborhood-in-san-francisco-2017-6#it-sits-south-of-the-citys-downtown-and-is-bisected-by-cortland-avenue-a-main-shopping-strip-populated-by-small-markets-cafes-restaurants-and-hair-and-nail-salons-2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bernal Heights, SF</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Passover</a>—“a commemoration of [Jews’] liberation by God from slavery in ancient Egypt and their freedom as a nation under the leadership of Moses. It commemorates the story of the Exodus as described in the Hebrew Bible, especially in the Book of Exodus, in which the Israelites were freed from slavery in Egypt.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefilte_fish" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gefilte fish</a>—“a dish made from a poached mixture of ground deboned fish, such as carp, whitefish, or pike. It is traditionally served as an appetizer by Ashkenazi Jewish households.…popular on Shabbat and Jewish Holidays such as Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzah_ball" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Matzah balls</a> (or matzo balls)—“Jewish soup dumplings made from a mixture of matzah meal, beaten eggs, water, and a fat, such as oil, margarine, or chicken fat. Matzah balls are traditionally served in chicken soup and are a staple food on the Jewish holiday of Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Purim</a>—“a Jewish holiday that commemorates the saving of the Jewish people from Haman, an Achaemenid Persian Empire official who was planning to kill all the Jews, as recounted in the Book of Esther.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kibbutz</a>—“a collective community in Israel… began as utopian communities, a combination of socialism and Zionism.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-empathic-misanthrope/201109/fake-it-til-you-make-it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fake it till you make it</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack Dorsey</a>, co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a>, founder and CEO of  <a href="https://squareup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Square</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Executive Chef</a>—“The very top of the kitchen management structure. Only the largest establishments have an executive chef, and it is primarily a management role; executive chefs are often responsible for the operation of multiple outlets, and thus they do very little actual cooking!”</li>
<li><a href="https://greenmonday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Green Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.meatlessmonday.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.earthday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earth Day</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nutriciously.com/plant-based-meal-planning/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Plant-based meals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.re-thinkfood.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">reThink Food</a>—“brings together a diverse group of thought leaders and innovators at the intersection of technology, behavior, design, and food. Our mission: to explore how areas such as big data, social networking, mobile computing, behavioral economics, marketing, neuroscience, agriculture, and culinary insight and strategy are radically changing food markets, systems, and our understanding of consumer choices.”</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://sfmade.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SFMade</a>—“build and support a vibrant manufacturing sector in San Francisco that sustains companies producing locally-made products, encourages entrepreneurship and innovation, and creates employment opportunities for a diverse local workforce.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.andytownsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">AndyTown Roasters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eatclub.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Club</a>—“a virtual cafeteria that can satisfy everyone’s tastes by delivering personalized, delicious meals to office teams.”</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/amanda_hirsch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amanda Hersh</a> of <a href="https://www.mightyforces.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mighty Forces</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs</a>—“used to study how humans intrinsically partake in behavioral motivation. Maslow used the terms ‘physiological’, ‘safety’, ‘belonging and love’, ‘social needs’ or ‘esteem’, and ‘self-actualization’ to describe the pattern through which human motivations generally move. This means that in order for motivation to occur at the next level, each level must be satisfied within the individual themselves.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2VIVpb9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microplane</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8oveg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Immersion circulator</a> (Amazon)</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mirit Cohen for joining us. You can find <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirit-cohen/detail/recent-activity/posts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mirit's articles on LinkedIn</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mirit Cohen, Adobe.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mirit Cohen was “executive chef” of her family’s large dinner gatherings long before becoming Executive Chef at Google and Adobe, as well as CEO of her own “daily foodservice” business. Now Adobe’s Global Workplace Experience Programs Manager, Mirit shares her advice about the importance of identifying your market, the hazards of scaling too quickly, the right way to shut down a business, and why she believes sharing a meal is the original social networking.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://adobe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gastronautsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastronaut </a></li>
<li><a href="https://eatretreat.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Retreat</a>—“A creative retreat and national community of food leaders”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bernal-heights-hottest-neighborhood-in-san-francisco-2017-6#it-sits-south-of-the-citys-downtown-and-is-bisected-by-cortland-avenue-a-main-shopping-strip-populated-by-small-markets-cafes-restaurants-and-hair-and-nail-salons-2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bernal Heights, SF</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Passover</a>—“a commemoration of [Jews’] liberation by God from slavery in ancient Egypt and their freedom as a nation under the leadership of Moses. It commemorates the story of the Exodus as described in the Hebrew Bible, especially in the Book of Exodus, in which the Israelites were freed from slavery in Egypt.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefilte_fish" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gefilte fish</a>—“a dish made from a poached mixture of ground deboned fish, such as carp, whitefish, or pike. It is traditionally served as an appetizer by Ashkenazi Jewish households.…popular on Shabbat and Jewish Holidays such as Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzah_ball" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Matzah balls</a> (or matzo balls)—“Jewish soup dumplings made from a mixture of matzah meal, beaten eggs, water, and a fat, such as oil, margarine, or chicken fat. Matzah balls are traditionally served in chicken soup and are a staple food on the Jewish holiday of Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Purim</a>—“a Jewish holiday that commemorates the saving of the Jewish people from Haman, an Achaemenid Persian Empire official who was planning to kill all the Jews, as recounted in the Book of Esther.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kibbutz</a>—“a collective community in Israel… began as utopian communities, a combination of socialism and Zionism.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-empathic-misanthrope/201109/fake-it-til-you-make-it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fake it till you make it</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack Dorsey</a>, co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a>, founder and CEO of  <a href="https://squareup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Square</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Executive Chef</a>—“The very top of the kitchen management structure. Only the largest establishments have an executive chef, and it is primarily a management role; executive chefs are often responsible for the operation of multiple outlets, and thus they do very little actual cooking!”</li>
<li><a href="https://greenmonday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Green Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.meatlessmonday.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.earthday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earth Day</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nutriciously.com/plant-based-meal-planning/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Plant-based meals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.re-thinkfood.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">reThink Food</a>—“brings together a diverse group of thought leaders and innovators at the intersection of technology, behavior, design, and food. Our mission: to explore how areas such as big data, social networking, mobile computing, behavioral economics, marketing, neuroscience, agriculture, and culinary insight and strategy are radically changing food markets, systems, and our understanding of consumer choices.”</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://sfmade.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SFMade</a>—“build and support a vibrant manufacturing sector in San Francisco that sustains companies producing locally-made products, encourages entrepreneurship and innovation, and creates employment opportunities for a diverse local workforce.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.andytownsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">AndyTown Roasters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eatclub.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Club</a>—“a virtual cafeteria that can satisfy everyone’s tastes by delivering personalized, delicious meals to office teams.”</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/amanda_hirsch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amanda Hersh</a> of <a href="https://www.mightyforces.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mighty Forces</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs</a>—“used to study how humans intrinsically partake in behavioral motivation. Maslow used the terms ‘physiological’, ‘safety’, ‘belonging and love’, ‘social needs’ or ‘esteem’, and ‘self-actualization’ to describe the pattern through which human motivations generally move. This means that in order for motivation to occur at the next level, each level must be satisfied within the individual themselves.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2VIVpb9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microplane</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8oveg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Immersion circulator</a> (Amazon)</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mirit Cohen for joining us. You can find <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirit-cohen/detail/recent-activity/posts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mirit's articles on LinkedIn</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mirit Cohen, Adobe.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mirit Cohen was “executive chef” of her family’s large dinner gatherings long before becoming Executive Chef at Google and Adobe, as well as CEO of her own “daily foodservice” business. Now Adobe’s Global Workplace Experience Programs Manager, Mirit shares her advice about the importance of identifying your market, the hazards of scaling too quickly, the right way to shut down a business, and why she believes sharing a meal is the original social networking.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://adobe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Adobe</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.gastronautsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastronaut </a></li>
<li><a href="https://eatretreat.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Retreat</a>—“A creative retreat and national community of food leaders”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/bernal-heights-hottest-neighborhood-in-san-francisco-2017-6#it-sits-south-of-the-citys-downtown-and-is-bisected-by-cortland-avenue-a-main-shopping-strip-populated-by-small-markets-cafes-restaurants-and-hair-and-nail-salons-2" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bernal Heights, SF</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passover" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Passover</a>—“a commemoration of [Jews’] liberation by God from slavery in ancient Egypt and their freedom as a nation under the leadership of Moses. It commemorates the story of the Exodus as described in the Hebrew Bible, especially in the Book of Exodus, in which the Israelites were freed from slavery in Egypt.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gefilte_fish" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gefilte fish</a>—“a dish made from a poached mixture of ground deboned fish, such as carp, whitefish, or pike. It is traditionally served as an appetizer by Ashkenazi Jewish households.…popular on Shabbat and Jewish Holidays such as Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matzah_ball" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Matzah balls</a> (or matzo balls)—“Jewish soup dumplings made from a mixture of matzah meal, beaten eggs, water, and a fat, such as oil, margarine, or chicken fat. Matzah balls are traditionally served in chicken soup and are a staple food on the Jewish holiday of Passover.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Purim</a>—“a Jewish holiday that commemorates the saving of the Jewish people from Haman, an Achaemenid Persian Empire official who was planning to kill all the Jews, as recounted in the Book of Esther.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibbutz" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kibbutz</a>—“a collective community in Israel… began as utopian communities, a combination of socialism and Zionism.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-empathic-misanthrope/201109/fake-it-til-you-make-it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fake it till you make it</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Dorsey" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jack Dorsey</a>, co-founder and CEO of <a href="https://twitter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter</a>, founder and CEO of  <a href="https://squareup.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Square</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://jobs.morningadvertiser.co.uk/article/kitchen-hierarchy-different-chef-titles-explained/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Executive Chef</a>—“The very top of the kitchen management structure. Only the largest establishments have an executive chef, and it is primarily a management role; executive chefs are often responsible for the operation of multiple outlets, and thus they do very little actual cooking!”</li>
<li><a href="https://greenmonday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Green Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.meatlessmonday.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Meatless Monday</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.earthday.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Earth Day</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nutriciously.com/plant-based-meal-planning/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Plant-based meals</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.re-thinkfood.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">reThink Food</a>—“brings together a diverse group of thought leaders and innovators at the intersection of technology, behavior, design, and food. Our mission: to explore how areas such as big data, social networking, mobile computing, behavioral economics, marketing, neuroscience, agriculture, and culinary insight and strategy are radically changing food markets, systems, and our understanding of consumer choices.”</li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li><a href="https://sfmade.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SFMade</a>—“build and support a vibrant manufacturing sector in San Francisco that sustains companies producing locally-made products, encourages entrepreneurship and innovation, and creates employment opportunities for a diverse local workforce.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.andytownsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">AndyTown Roasters</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eatclub.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat Club</a>—“a virtual cafeteria that can satisfy everyone’s tastes by delivering personalized, delicious meals to office teams.”</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/amanda_hirsch" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amanda Hersh</a> of <a href="https://www.mightyforces.co/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mighty Forces</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs</a>—“used to study how humans intrinsically partake in behavioral motivation. Maslow used the terms ‘physiological’, ‘safety’, ‘belonging and love’, ‘social needs’ or ‘esteem’, and ‘self-actualization’ to describe the pattern through which human motivations generally move. This means that in order for motivation to occur at the next level, each level must be satisfied within the individual themselves.”</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2VIVpb9" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Microplane</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8oveg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Immersion circulator</a> (Amazon)</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mirit Cohen for joining us. You can find <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/mirit-cohen/detail/recent-activity/posts/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mirit's articles on LinkedIn</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mirit Cohen, Adobe.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>You don’t need passion to start a business, but you do need it to keep one going for a quarter century. Life-long entrepreneur Jack Epstein of Chocolate Covered sells over a thousand artisan chocolates from his store in the Noe Valley neighborhood of San Francisco. Learn how Jack built his unique business, and hear valuable advice from a shopkeeper who’s been in business for 25 years. Plus, Jack shares dozens of chocolate and San Francisco restaurant recommendations! (Check the show notes for links.)</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You don’t need passion to start a business, but you do need it to keep one going for a quarter century. Life-long entrepreneur Jack Epstein of Chocolate Covered sells over a thousand artisan chocolates from his store in the Noe Valley neighborhood of San Francisco. Learn how Jack built his unique business, and hear valuable advice from a shopkeeper who’s been in business for 25 years. Plus, Jack shares dozens of chocolate and San Francisco restaurant recommendations!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ocean-Front-Walkers/155581997815782" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ocean Front Walkers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liberal arts education - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/tai-chi/art-20045184" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi: A gentle way to fight stress - Mayo Clinic</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bar and Bat Mitzvah - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodysurfing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bodysurfing - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=health+benefits+of+cacao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“health benefits of cacao” - Google Search</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_white_cookie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.browneyedbaker.com/black-and-white-cookies-recipe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White Cookies Recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.delish.com/food-news/g26783387/best-oreo-flavors/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All 25 Oreos Flavors, Ranked, Tested and Reviewed - Best Oreo Flavors</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreo.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oreo | Home</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.theretrosite.com/ice-cold-milk-and-an-oreo-cookie_e4232085f.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Ice Cold Milk and an Oreo Cookie”</a> commercial</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotype - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Cyanotypes---super-easy-photo-prints-at-home./" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotypes - Super Easy Photo Prints at Home.: 6 Steps (with Pictures)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean#Varieties" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cocoa bean - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.co.uk/blogs/news/the-different-varieties-of-cocoa-beans-criollo-trinitario-and-forastero" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Different Varieties of Cocoa Beans: Criollo, Trinitario &amp; Foraster – The Chocolate Society</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir - Wikipedia</a> — “Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chuao, Venuzuela - Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/dining/12chocolate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rare Cacao Beans Discovered in Peru - The New York Times</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Two Buck Chuck” Charles Shaw wine - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouton_Cadet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouton Cadet - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WsCuha" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate tempering machine (Amazon.com)</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>Chocolates &amp; Chocolatiers</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.michaelmischerchocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michael Mischer</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.lamourettechocolat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">L’Amourette Chocolatier</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.jadechocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jade Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.9thandlarkin.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">9th &amp; Larkin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://maison-bouche.myshopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Bouche</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://pocodolce.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poco Dolce Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.charleschocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charles Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://fevechocolates.com/collections/truffles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Feve Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00DHTF71I/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Valrhona Le Noir Amer 71% Cacao Dark Bittersweet Chocolate</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/store/detail/chocolate_bars/chile_pistachio_chocolate_bars_3_pack" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chile Pistachio Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Señor Murphy's</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/shop/shrimpbonito" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shrimp &amp; Bonito Dark Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fossa Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kitkat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">KitKat</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/almondjoy-mounds/en_us/products/mounds-candy-bar.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mounds</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_Milk_Chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nestlé Milk Chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hershey’s Chocolate &amp; Candy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.scharffenberger.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Scharffen Berger</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dagobachocolate.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dagoba</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schmidt_Confections" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt Confections - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Joseph-Schmidt-chocolates-will-be-missed-3164996.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt chocolates will be missed - SFGate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.cadbury.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cadbury Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amedei.it/it/prodotto2/5927/QPALVXTM/porcelana-(limited)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amedei Porcelana</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.lindt.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lindt Chocolate World</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli Chocolate Company</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonegrindz.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stone Grindz</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hogarthchocolate.co.nz/wp/author/webeditor-karl/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hogarth Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0084B8NB0/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lattenero Chocolate Bar by Slitti</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.slittishop.it/prodotti/dettaglio-prodotto.asp?id=34&amp;Prodotto=Gran%20Bouquet%20Caff%C3%A8%20Latte%20-%20100g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cioccolato Slitti – Gran Bouquet Caffè Latte</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://kopperschocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kopper’s Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>San Francisco Restaurants &amp; Locations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Valley,_San_Francisco" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley, San Francisco - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://theendupsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">TheEndUpSF.com – San Francisco’s Legendary Indoor/Outdoor Nightclub</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://zunicafe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Zuni Café</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://griddlefreshsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Griddle Fresh/Aha Fresh</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.toasteatery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toast Eatery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.novysf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NoVY</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://patxispizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patxi’s</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hamanosushi.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hamano Sushi</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.barneyshamburgers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barney’s Gourmet Hamburgers</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.thaicafesf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Thai Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/goga/planyourvisit/landsend.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lands End - Golden Gate National Recreation Area (U.S. National Park Service)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://stowlakeboathouse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stow Lake Boathouse - San Francisco</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.parksconservancy.org/programs/crissy-field-center" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crissy Field Center | Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/neighborhoods/sf/northbeach/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">North Beach — San Francisco Travel</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://goldenboypizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Golden Boy Pizza</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://tonyspizzanapoletana.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tony’s Pizza Napoletana</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sunrisedelisf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sunrise Deli</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building Marketplace</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.hiddensf.com/106-the-embarcadero-san-francisco.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Embarcadero, SF.  Highlights to check out | hiddenSF.com</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.doublerainbow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ultra Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/toyboatdessertcafe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toy Boat Dessert Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://noevalleybakery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley Bakery</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Jack for joining us. You can find Chocolate Covered at 4069 24th Street, between Noe and Castro in San Francisco, CA, on Twitter  <a href="https://twitter.com/ChocoCoveredSF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@ChocoCoveredSF</a>, and at <a href="http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com</a>.</p>

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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ocean-Front-Walkers/155581997815782" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ocean Front Walkers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liberal arts education - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/tai-chi/art-20045184" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi: A gentle way to fight stress - Mayo Clinic</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bar and Bat Mitzvah - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodysurfing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bodysurfing - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=health+benefits+of+cacao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“health benefits of cacao” - Google Search</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_white_cookie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.browneyedbaker.com/black-and-white-cookies-recipe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White Cookies Recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.delish.com/food-news/g26783387/best-oreo-flavors/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All 25 Oreos Flavors, Ranked, Tested and Reviewed - Best Oreo Flavors</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreo.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oreo | Home</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.theretrosite.com/ice-cold-milk-and-an-oreo-cookie_e4232085f.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Ice Cold Milk and an Oreo Cookie”</a> commercial</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotype - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Cyanotypes---super-easy-photo-prints-at-home./" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotypes - Super Easy Photo Prints at Home.: 6 Steps (with Pictures)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean#Varieties" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cocoa bean - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.co.uk/blogs/news/the-different-varieties-of-cocoa-beans-criollo-trinitario-and-forastero" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Different Varieties of Cocoa Beans: Criollo, Trinitario &amp; Foraster – The Chocolate Society</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir - Wikipedia</a> — “Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chuao, Venuzuela - Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/dining/12chocolate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rare Cacao Beans Discovered in Peru - The New York Times</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Two Buck Chuck” Charles Shaw wine - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouton_Cadet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouton Cadet - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WsCuha" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate tempering machine (Amazon.com)</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>Chocolates &amp; Chocolatiers</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.michaelmischerchocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michael Mischer</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.lamourettechocolat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">L’Amourette Chocolatier</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.jadechocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jade Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.9thandlarkin.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">9th &amp; Larkin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://maison-bouche.myshopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Bouche</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://pocodolce.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poco Dolce Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.charleschocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charles Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://fevechocolates.com/collections/truffles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Feve Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00DHTF71I/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Valrhona Le Noir Amer 71% Cacao Dark Bittersweet Chocolate</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/store/detail/chocolate_bars/chile_pistachio_chocolate_bars_3_pack" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chile Pistachio Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Señor Murphy's</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/shop/shrimpbonito" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shrimp &amp; Bonito Dark Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fossa Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kitkat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">KitKat</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/almondjoy-mounds/en_us/products/mounds-candy-bar.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mounds</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_Milk_Chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nestlé Milk Chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hershey’s Chocolate &amp; Candy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.scharffenberger.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Scharffen Berger</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dagobachocolate.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dagoba</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schmidt_Confections" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt Confections - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Joseph-Schmidt-chocolates-will-be-missed-3164996.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt chocolates will be missed - SFGate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.cadbury.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cadbury Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amedei.it/it/prodotto2/5927/QPALVXTM/porcelana-(limited)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amedei Porcelana</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.lindt.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lindt Chocolate World</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli Chocolate Company</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonegrindz.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stone Grindz</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hogarthchocolate.co.nz/wp/author/webeditor-karl/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hogarth Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0084B8NB0/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lattenero Chocolate Bar by Slitti</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.slittishop.it/prodotti/dettaglio-prodotto.asp?id=34&amp;Prodotto=Gran%20Bouquet%20Caff%C3%A8%20Latte%20-%20100g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cioccolato Slitti – Gran Bouquet Caffè Latte</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://kopperschocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kopper’s Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>San Francisco Restaurants &amp; Locations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Valley,_San_Francisco" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley, San Francisco - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://theendupsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">TheEndUpSF.com – San Francisco’s Legendary Indoor/Outdoor Nightclub</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://zunicafe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Zuni Café</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://griddlefreshsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Griddle Fresh/Aha Fresh</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.toasteatery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toast Eatery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.novysf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NoVY</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://patxispizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patxi’s</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hamanosushi.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hamano Sushi</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.barneyshamburgers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barney’s Gourmet Hamburgers</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.thaicafesf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Thai Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/goga/planyourvisit/landsend.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lands End - Golden Gate National Recreation Area (U.S. National Park Service)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://stowlakeboathouse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stow Lake Boathouse - San Francisco</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.parksconservancy.org/programs/crissy-field-center" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crissy Field Center | Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/neighborhoods/sf/northbeach/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">North Beach — San Francisco Travel</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://goldenboypizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Golden Boy Pizza</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://tonyspizzanapoletana.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tony’s Pizza Napoletana</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sunrisedelisf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sunrise Deli</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building Marketplace</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.hiddensf.com/106-the-embarcadero-san-francisco.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Embarcadero, SF.  Highlights to check out | hiddenSF.com</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.doublerainbow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ultra Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/toyboatdessertcafe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toy Boat Dessert Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://noevalleybakery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley Bakery</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Jack for joining us. You can find Chocolate Covered at 4069 24th Street, between Noe and Castro in San Francisco, CA, on Twitter  <a href="https://twitter.com/ChocoCoveredSF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@ChocoCoveredSF</a>, and at <a href="http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com</a>.</p>

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<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Jack Epstein, Chocolate Covered.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>You don’t need passion to start a business, but you do need it to keep one going for a quarter century. Life-long entrepreneur Jack Epstein of Chocolate Covered sells over a thousand artisan chocolates from his store in the Noe Valley neighborhood of San Francisco. Learn how Jack built his unique business, and hear valuable advice from a shopkeeper who’s been in business for 25 years. Plus, Jack shares dozens of chocolate and San Francisco restaurant recommendations!</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ocean-Front-Walkers/155581997815782" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ocean Front Walkers</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_arts_education" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liberal arts education - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/stress-management/in-depth/tai-chi/art-20045184" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tai chi: A gentle way to fight stress - Mayo Clinic</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bar_and_Bat_Mitzvah" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bar and Bat Mitzvah - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodysurfing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bodysurfing - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.google.com/search?q=health+benefits+of+cacao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“health benefits of cacao” - Google Search</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_white_cookie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White cookies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.browneyedbaker.com/black-and-white-cookies-recipe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black and White Cookies Recipe</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.delish.com/food-news/g26783387/best-oreo-flavors/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All 25 Oreos Flavors, Ranked, Tested and Reviewed - Best Oreo Flavors</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.oreo.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oreo | Home</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.theretrosite.com/ice-cold-milk-and-an-oreo-cookie_e4232085f.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Ice Cold Milk and an Oreo Cookie”</a> commercial</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyanotype" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotype - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.instructables.com/id/Cyanotypes---super-easy-photo-prints-at-home./" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cyanotypes - Super Easy Photo Prints at Home.: 6 Steps (with Pictures)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocoa_bean#Varieties" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cocoa bean - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.co.uk/blogs/news/the-different-varieties-of-cocoa-beans-criollo-trinitario-and-forastero" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Different Varieties of Cocoa Beans: Criollo, Trinitario &amp; Foraster – The Chocolate Society</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir - Wikipedia</a> — “Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuao" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chuao, Venuzuela - Wikipedia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/12/dining/12chocolate.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rare Cacao Beans Discovered in Peru - The New York Times</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Shaw_wine" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Two Buck Chuck” Charles Shaw wine - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mouton_Cadet" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mouton Cadet - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2WsCuha" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate tempering machine (Amazon.com)</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>Chocolates &amp; Chocolatiers</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.michaelmischerchocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Michael Mischer</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.lamourettechocolat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">L’Amourette Chocolatier</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.jadechocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jade Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.9thandlarkin.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">9th &amp; Larkin</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://maison-bouche.myshopify.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maison Bouche</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://pocodolce.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Poco Dolce Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.charleschocolates.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charles Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://fevechocolates.com/collections/truffles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Feve Chocolates</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00DHTF71I/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Valrhona Le Noir Amer 71% Cacao Dark Bittersweet Chocolate</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/store/detail/chocolate_bars/chile_pistachio_chocolate_bars_3_pack" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chile Pistachio Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.senormurphy.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Señor Murphy's</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/shop/shrimpbonito" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Shrimp &amp; Bonito Dark Chocolate</a> from <a href="https://www.fossachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fossa Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.kitkat.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">KitKat</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/almondjoy-mounds/en_us/products/mounds-candy-bar.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mounds</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9_Milk_Chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nestlé Milk Chocolate - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hersheys.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hershey’s Chocolate &amp; Candy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.scharffenberger.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Scharffen Berger</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.dagobachocolate.com/en_us/home.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dagoba</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Schmidt_Confections" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt Confections - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/business/article/Joseph-Schmidt-chocolates-will-be-missed-3164996.php" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Joseph Schmidt chocolates will be missed - SFGate</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.cadbury.co.uk/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cadbury Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.amedei.it/it/prodotto2/5927/QPALVXTM/porcelana-(limited)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amedei Porcelana</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chocolate.lindt.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lindt Chocolate World</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ghirardelli.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghirardelli Chocolate Company</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.stonegrindz.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stone Grindz</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hogarthchocolate.co.nz/wp/author/webeditor-karl/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hogarth Chocolate</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0084B8NB0/lettucewrap-20" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lattenero Chocolate Bar by Slitti</a> (Amazon)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.slittishop.it/prodotti/dettaglio-prodotto.asp?id=34&amp;Prodotto=Gran%20Bouquet%20Caff%C3%A8%20Latte%20-%20100g" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cioccolato Slitti – Gran Bouquet Caffè Latte</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://kopperschocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kopper’s Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul>

<h4>San Francisco Restaurants &amp; Locations</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noe_Valley,_San_Francisco" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley, San Francisco - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://theendupsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">TheEndUpSF.com – San Francisco’s Legendary Indoor/Outdoor Nightclub</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://zunicafe.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Zuni Café</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://griddlefreshsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Griddle Fresh/Aha Fresh</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.toasteatery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toast Eatery</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.novysf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NoVY</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://patxispizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patxi’s</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.hamanosushi.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hamano Sushi</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.barneyshamburgers.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barney’s Gourmet Hamburgers</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.thaicafesf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Thai Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.nps.gov/goga/planyourvisit/landsend.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lands End - Golden Gate National Recreation Area (U.S. National Park Service)</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://stowlakeboathouse.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stow Lake Boathouse - San Francisco</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.parksconservancy.org/programs/crissy-field-center" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crissy Field Center | Golden Gate National Parks Conservancy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sfgate.com/neighborhoods/sf/northbeach/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">North Beach — San Francisco Travel</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://goldenboypizza.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Golden Boy Pizza</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://tonyspizzanapoletana.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tony’s Pizza Napoletana</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.sunrisedelisf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sunrise Deli</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.ferrybuildingmarketplace.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ferry Building Marketplace</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.hiddensf.com/106-the-embarcadero-san-francisco.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Embarcadero, SF.  Highlights to check out | hiddenSF.com</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.doublerainbow.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ultra Rainbow Ice Cream</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/toyboatdessertcafe/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toy Boat Dessert Cafe</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://noevalleybakery.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Noe Valley Bakery</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Jack for joining us. You can find Chocolate Covered at 4069 24th Street, between Noe and Castro in San Francisco, CA, on Twitter  <a href="https://twitter.com/ChocoCoveredSF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@ChocoCoveredSF</a>, and at <a href="http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">http://www.chocolatecoveredsf.com</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Jack Epstein, Chocolate Covered.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Stuart went from whiskey novice to Certified Bourbon Steward, turning a bad first impression with whisky into a passion he now shares with others in his at-home whiskey tasting and cooking classes. We taste our way through a personalized flight of four ryes, while learning more about whiskey (and whisky!) with Stuart as our guide.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Stuart went from whiskey novice to Certified Bourbon Steward, turning a bad first impression with whisky into a passion he now shares with others in his at-home whiskey tasting and cooking classes. We taste our way through a personalized flight of four ryes, while learning more about whiskey (and whisky!) with Stuart as our guide.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<h4>What we tasted</h4>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/QAPwBen7.jpg" alt="The four ryes we tasted: Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye, Resurgens Rye, Willett Family Estate Bottled 3 Year Rye, Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.resurgenswhiskey.com/editions#the-flagship" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Resurgens Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.venusspirits.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-4-year-rye/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Family Estate Bottled 4 Year Rye</a>  (we tasted the 3 year)</li>
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<h4>Other whiskeys mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.malts.com/en-row/distilleries/talisker/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Talisker, Isle of Skye</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-US/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jameson Irish Whiskey</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/makers-46" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker’s 46</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/whisky/single-malts/sherry-oak/sherry-oak-12-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 12 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/sherry-oak-18-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 18 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-pot-still-reserve/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Pot Still Reserve</a> (the <em>I Dream of Jeannie</em>-like Bourbon bottle)<img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Jm8rGsTK.png" alt="&quot;I Dream of Jeannie&quot;-like Willett's Bourbon bottle "></li>
</ul>

<h4>Additional Links</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart On The Coast – Food and Fun on the California Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.sfchocolatesalon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Chocolate Salon – The Original and Premier Artisan Chocolate Show for the West Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.mytoque.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toque Blanche (Santa Cruz)</a>  (the store in Half Moon Bay where Stuart worked is closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa Black Sesame Seed Brittle</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Halva</a>—“dense, sweet confections made in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Indian subcontinent. It is also served in the Caucasus, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, the Balkans, Eastern and Western Europe, Malta and in the Jewish diaspora.“</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Show Me the MONEY!!!” - YouTube</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxmB3l" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ottolenghi cookbooks</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadouvan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vadouvan</a>—French version of a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_mix#Masala" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">masala</a>. <a href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Vadouvan-Indian-Spice-Blend-243607" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Make your own</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.newleaf.com/stores/view.php?location=3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New Leaf Community Markets</a>  in Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li> <a href="https://staveandthief.com/certification/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certification Bourbon Steward, Stave and Thief Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mash_ingredients" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mash ingredients</a>—More than you ever wanted to know about a mash bill.</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.winecountry.com/blog/sparkling-wine-vs-champagne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Sparkling Wine and Champagne</a>—“All Champagne&nbsp;is sparkling wine, but not all sparkling wine is Champagne”</li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/glossary/rackhouse-rickhouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rickhouse (or Rackhouse)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/understanding-whiskey-stills-pots-columns-hybrids/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Understanding Whiskey Stills: Pots, Columns, Hybrids</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cVciMe6ZSo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How a double-distillation pot still works: basics</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/what-is-whisky/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Whisky? </a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.whiskyinvestdirect.com/about-whisky/scotch-whisky-casks-and-barrels" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Casks (barrels, hogsheads, butts)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxpkK7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Glencairn Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2Vbhqyr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Norlan Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2IwgH4Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peugeot Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2VXPmLQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (smaller)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2V7uncD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (larger)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alcohol by volume - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Whisky Advocate - America’s leading whisky magazine</a> / <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZoDzIU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subscribe on Amazon</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dream_of_Jeannie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I Dream of Jeannie</a>—"an American fantasy sitcom starring Barbara Eden as a 2,000-year-old genie and Larry Hagman as an astronaut who becomes her master, with whom she falls in love and eventually marries.… [O]riginally aired from September 18, 1965 to May 26, 1970... the show ran for five seasons and produced 139 episodes."</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Stuart for joining us. You can sign up for his in-home cooking and whiskey classes at <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">StuartOnTheCoast.com</a>, and follow him on Facebook at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/StuartontheCoast/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart on The Coast</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
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<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
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<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Jason Anthony Guy and Stuart Cristol-Deman, Stuart on the Coast.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Stuart went from whiskey novice to Certified Bourbon Steward, turning a bad first impression with whisky into a passion he now shares with others in his at-home whiskey tasting and cooking classes. We taste our way through a personalized flight of four ryes, while learning more about whiskey (and whisky!) with Stuart as our guide.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<h4>What we tasted</h4>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/QAPwBen7.jpg" alt="The four ryes we tasted: Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye, Resurgens Rye, Willett Family Estate Bottled 3 Year Rye, Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.resurgenswhiskey.com/editions#the-flagship" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Resurgens Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.venusspirits.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-4-year-rye/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Family Estate Bottled 4 Year Rye</a>  (we tasted the 3 year)</li>
</ul>

<h4>Other whiskeys mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.malts.com/en-row/distilleries/talisker/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Talisker, Isle of Skye</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-US/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jameson Irish Whiskey</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/makers-46" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker’s 46</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/whisky/single-malts/sherry-oak/sherry-oak-12-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 12 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/sherry-oak-18-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 18 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-pot-still-reserve/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Pot Still Reserve</a> (the <em>I Dream of Jeannie</em>-like Bourbon bottle)<img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Jm8rGsTK.png" alt="&quot;I Dream of Jeannie&quot;-like Willett's Bourbon bottle "></li>
</ul>

<h4>Additional Links</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart On The Coast – Food and Fun on the California Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.sfchocolatesalon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Chocolate Salon – The Original and Premier Artisan Chocolate Show for the West Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.mytoque.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toque Blanche (Santa Cruz)</a>  (the store in Half Moon Bay where Stuart worked is closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa Black Sesame Seed Brittle</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Halva</a>—“dense, sweet confections made in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Indian subcontinent. It is also served in the Caucasus, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, the Balkans, Eastern and Western Europe, Malta and in the Jewish diaspora.“</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Show Me the MONEY!!!” - YouTube</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxmB3l" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ottolenghi cookbooks</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadouvan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vadouvan</a>—French version of a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_mix#Masala" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">masala</a>. <a href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Vadouvan-Indian-Spice-Blend-243607" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Make your own</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.newleaf.com/stores/view.php?location=3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New Leaf Community Markets</a>  in Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li> <a href="https://staveandthief.com/certification/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certification Bourbon Steward, Stave and Thief Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mash_ingredients" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mash ingredients</a>—More than you ever wanted to know about a mash bill.</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.winecountry.com/blog/sparkling-wine-vs-champagne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Sparkling Wine and Champagne</a>—“All Champagne&nbsp;is sparkling wine, but not all sparkling wine is Champagne”</li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/glossary/rackhouse-rickhouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rickhouse (or Rackhouse)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/understanding-whiskey-stills-pots-columns-hybrids/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Understanding Whiskey Stills: Pots, Columns, Hybrids</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cVciMe6ZSo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How a double-distillation pot still works: basics</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/what-is-whisky/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Whisky? </a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.whiskyinvestdirect.com/about-whisky/scotch-whisky-casks-and-barrels" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Casks (barrels, hogsheads, butts)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxpkK7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Glencairn Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2Vbhqyr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Norlan Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2IwgH4Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peugeot Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2VXPmLQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (smaller)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2V7uncD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (larger)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alcohol by volume - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Whisky Advocate - America’s leading whisky magazine</a> / <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZoDzIU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subscribe on Amazon</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dream_of_Jeannie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I Dream of Jeannie</a>—"an American fantasy sitcom starring Barbara Eden as a 2,000-year-old genie and Larry Hagman as an astronaut who becomes her master, with whom she falls in love and eventually marries.… [O]riginally aired from September 18, 1965 to May 26, 1970... the show ran for five seasons and produced 139 episodes."</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Stuart for joining us. You can sign up for his in-home cooking and whiskey classes at <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">StuartOnTheCoast.com</a>, and follow him on Facebook at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/StuartontheCoast/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart on The Coast</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Jason Anthony Guy and Stuart Cristol-Deman, Stuart on the Coast.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Stuart went from whiskey novice to Certified Bourbon Steward, turning a bad first impression with whisky into a passion he now shares with others in his at-home whiskey tasting and cooking classes. We taste our way through a personalized flight of four ryes, while learning more about whiskey (and whisky!) with Stuart as our guide.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<h4>What we tasted</h4>

<p><img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/QAPwBen7.jpg" alt="The four ryes we tasted: Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye, Resurgens Rye, Willett Family Estate Bottled 3 Year Rye, Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye"></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://sagamorespirit.com/spirits/signature-rye-whiskey/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sagamore Spirit Signature (Maryland) Rye</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.resurgenswhiskey.com/editions#the-flagship" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Resurgens Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.venusspirits.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Venus Spirits Wayward Whiskey Rye</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-family-estate-bottled-4-year-rye/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Family Estate Bottled 4 Year Rye</a>  (we tasted the 3 year)</li>
</ul>

<h4>Other whiskeys mentioned</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.malts.com/en-row/distilleries/talisker/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Talisker, Isle of Skye</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.jamesonwhiskey.com/en-US/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jameson Irish Whiskey</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.makersmark.com/makers-46" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maker’s 46</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/whisky/single-malts/sherry-oak/sherry-oak-12-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 12 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.themacallan.com/en-us/sherry-oak-18-years-old" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Macallan Sherry Oak 18 Whisky</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.kentuckybourbonwhiskey.com/the-whiskeys/willett-pot-still-reserve/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Willett Pot Still Reserve</a> (the <em>I Dream of Jeannie</em>-like Bourbon bottle)<img src="https://files.fireside.fm/file/fireside-uploads/images/f/ff67b32d-68dc-4ffa-8e3e-157bcf552e52/Jm8rGsTK.png" alt="&quot;I Dream of Jeannie&quot;-like Willett's Bourbon bottle "></li>
</ul>

<h4>Additional Links</h4>

<ul>
<li> <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart On The Coast – Food and Fun on the California Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.sfchocolatesalon.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Francisco Chocolate Salon – The Original and Premier Artisan Chocolate Show for the West Coast</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.mytoque.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toque Blanche (Santa Cruz)</a>  (the store in Half Moon Bay where Stuart worked is closed)</li>
<li> <a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa Black Sesame Seed Brittle</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halva" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Halva</a>—“dense, sweet confections made in the Middle East, Central Asia and the Indian subcontinent. It is also served in the Caucasus, North Africa, the Horn of Africa, the Balkans, Eastern and Western Europe, Malta and in the Jewish diaspora.“</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBS0OWGUidc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">“Show Me the MONEY!!!” - YouTube</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxmB3l" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ottolenghi cookbooks</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vadouvan" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vadouvan</a>—French version of a  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_mix#Masala" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">masala</a>. <a href="https://www.epicurious.com/recipes/food/views/Vadouvan-Indian-Spice-Blend-243607" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Make your own</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.newleaf.com/stores/view.php?location=3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New Leaf Community Markets</a>  in Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li> <a href="https://staveandthief.com/certification/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Certification Bourbon Steward, Stave and Thief Society</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mash_ingredients" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Mash ingredients</a>—More than you ever wanted to know about a mash bill.</li>
<li> <a href="https://www.winecountry.com/blog/sparkling-wine-vs-champagne/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Sparkling Wine and Champagne</a>—“All Champagne&nbsp;is sparkling wine, but not all sparkling wine is Champagne”</li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/glossary/rackhouse-rickhouse/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rickhouse (or Rackhouse)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://thewhiskeywash.com/whiskey-styles/american-whiskey/understanding-whiskey-stills-pots-columns-hybrids/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Understanding Whiskey Stills: Pots, Columns, Hybrids</a></li>
<li> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cVciMe6ZSo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">How a double-distillation pot still works: basics</a></li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/what-is-whisky/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Whisky? </a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://www.whiskyinvestdirect.com/about-whisky/scotch-whisky-casks-and-barrels" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Casks (barrels, hogsheads, butts)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2GxpkK7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Glencairn Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2Vbhqyr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Norlan Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2IwgH4Q" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peugeot Whisky Glass</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2VXPmLQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (smaller)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://amzn.to/2V7uncD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ice Ball Mold (larger)</a> </li>
<li> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_by_volume" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alcohol by volume - Wikipedia</a> </li>
<li> <a href="http://whiskyadvocate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Whisky Advocate - America’s leading whisky magazine</a> / <a href="https://amzn.to/2ZoDzIU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Subscribe on Amazon</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Dream_of_Jeannie" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I Dream of Jeannie</a>—"an American fantasy sitcom starring Barbara Eden as a 2,000-year-old genie and Larry Hagman as an astronaut who becomes her master, with whom she falls in love and eventually marries.… [O]riginally aired from September 18, 1965 to May 26, 1970... the show ran for five seasons and produced 139 episodes."</li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Stuart for joining us. You can sign up for his in-home cooking and whiskey classes at <a href="http://www.stuartonthecoast.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">StuartOnTheCoast.com</a>, and follow him on Facebook at <a href="https://www.facebook.com/StuartontheCoast/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stuart on The Coast</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Jason Anthony Guy and Stuart Cristol-Deman, Stuart on the Coast.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The baobab tree looms large in the life of Nafy Flatley. Its fruit juice nourished her when she was young, and powers her Teranga Juice business today. We discuss the origins of Nafy’s business and learn a lot about the “tree of life”, including its health benefits. Can the juice of the baobab fruit help you be stronger, fall in love, or attain happiness? Listen and find out! (Recorded October, 2018.)</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li>“Teranga” is a <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Senegalese</a> word meaning hospitality, friendships, camaraderie</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_trait" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sickle cell trait</a></li>
<li>Baobab fruit, from the  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adansonia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobab tree</a>, aka “Tree of Life”, “Upside-down tree” or “le pan de singe” (monkey bread)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tamarind</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_ceremony" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Naming ceremony</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wework.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeWork</a>—“Supporting Communities and Creating Impact”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/ginger-ground" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ginger</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibiscus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hibiscus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moringa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Moringa</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s La Mafé recipe will be in <a href="https://amzn.to/2FGkb0L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Are La Cocina: Recipes in Pursuit of the American Dream</a> (pre-order now, launches June 4)</li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/album/love-potion-number-nine-stereo/1143220591?i=1143221374&amp;mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw009" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Love Potion Number 9</a> (iTunes)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/sorrel-bissap-agua-de-jamaica-148779" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sorrel, Bissap, Jamaica: Hibiscus Tea Around the World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nutmeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nutmeg</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cayenne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cayenne Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688324276260" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/fruit/baobab.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Health benefits of Baobab</a></li>
<li>We talk more about the PFR (<a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration</a> in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/teranga-baobab-juice-coconut-v/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw/Teranga Baobab Juice &amp; Coconut</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s latest product: <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com/store/c3/Energy_Bars.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobar energy bars</a></li>
<li>ABC7News story on <a href="https://abc7news.com/food/nafy-flatleys-american-dream-the-baobab-fruit-juice-and-bar/3488390/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nafy Flatley's American dream: the baobab fruit juice &amp; bar</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Nafy for joining us. You can find her <a href="https://twitter.com/terangalife" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@terangalife</a> on Twitter (and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/terangalife/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>), and on the web at <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">terangajuice.com</a></p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Nafy Flatley, Teranga Juice.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li>“Teranga” is a <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Senegalese</a> word meaning hospitality, friendships, camaraderie</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_trait" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sickle cell trait</a></li>
<li>Baobab fruit, from the  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adansonia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobab tree</a>, aka “Tree of Life”, “Upside-down tree” or “le pan de singe” (monkey bread)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tamarind</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_ceremony" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Naming ceremony</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wework.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeWork</a>—“Supporting Communities and Creating Impact”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/ginger-ground" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ginger</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibiscus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hibiscus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moringa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Moringa</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s La Mafé recipe will be in <a href="https://amzn.to/2FGkb0L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Are La Cocina: Recipes in Pursuit of the American Dream</a> (pre-order now, launches June 4)</li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/album/love-potion-number-nine-stereo/1143220591?i=1143221374&amp;mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw009" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Love Potion Number 9</a> (iTunes)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/sorrel-bissap-agua-de-jamaica-148779" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sorrel, Bissap, Jamaica: Hibiscus Tea Around the World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nutmeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nutmeg</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cayenne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cayenne Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688324276260" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/fruit/baobab.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Health benefits of Baobab</a></li>
<li>We talk more about the PFR (<a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration</a> in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/teranga-baobab-juice-coconut-v/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw/Teranga Baobab Juice &amp; Coconut</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s latest product: <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com/store/c3/Energy_Bars.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobar energy bars</a></li>
<li>ABC7News story on <a href="https://abc7news.com/food/nafy-flatleys-american-dream-the-baobab-fruit-juice-and-bar/3488390/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nafy Flatley's American dream: the baobab fruit juice &amp; bar</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Nafy for joining us. You can find her <a href="https://twitter.com/terangalife" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@terangalife</a> on Twitter (and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/terangalife/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>), and on the web at <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">terangajuice.com</a></p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Nafy Flatley, Teranga Juice.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“a nonprofit working to solve problems of equity in business ownership for women, immigrants and people of color.”</li>
<li>“Teranga” is a <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senegal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Senegalese</a> word meaning hospitality, friendships, camaraderie</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sickle_cell_trait" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sickle cell trait</a></li>
<li>Baobab fruit, from the  <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adansonia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobab tree</a>, aka “Tree of Life”, “Upside-down tree” or “le pan de singe” (monkey bread)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamarind" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tamarind</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naming_ceremony" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Naming ceremony</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wework.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeWork</a>—“Supporting Communities and Creating Impact”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/ginger-ground" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ginger</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibiscus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hibiscus</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moringa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Moringa</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s La Mafé recipe will be in <a href="https://amzn.to/2FGkb0L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Are La Cocina: Recipes in Pursuit of the American Dream</a> (pre-order now, launches June 4)</li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/album/love-potion-number-nine-stereo/1143220591?i=1143221374&amp;mt=1&amp;app=music&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw009" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Love Potion Number 9</a> (iTunes)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thekitchn.com/sorrel-bissap-agua-de-jamaica-148779" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sorrel, Bissap, Jamaica: Hibiscus Tea Around the World</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nutmeg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nutmeg</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/cayenne" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cayenne Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688324276260" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Pepper</a> (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/fruit/baobab.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Health benefits of Baobab</a></li>
<li>We talk more about the PFR (<a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration</a> in <a href="https://www.lettucewrappod.com/7" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">episode 7 with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</a>.</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/flavor/teranga-baobab-juice-coconut-v/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw/Teranga Baobab Juice &amp; Coconut</a></li>
<li>Nafy’s latest product: <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com/store/c3/Energy_Bars.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Baobar energy bars</a></li>
<li>ABC7News story on <a href="https://abc7news.com/food/nafy-flatleys-american-dream-the-baobab-fruit-juice-and-bar/3488390/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nafy Flatley's American dream: the baobab fruit juice &amp; bar</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Nafy for joining us. You can find her <a href="https://twitter.com/terangalife" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@terangalife</a> on Twitter (and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/terangalife/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a>), and on the web at <a href="http://www.terangajuice.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">terangajuice.com</a></p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Nafy Flatley, Teranga Juice.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>From an immunology Ph.D to ice cream entrepreneur, learn how a book, a funny name, and a memory of an ice cream taco all came together to form Lori’s delicious desert business. We discuss reasons to remaining artisanal, the argument against franchising, and the power of liquid nitrogen.</itunes:subtitle>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-U5TTQ1mReY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!</a> (Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup commercial)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cream_(I_Scream,_You_Scream,_We_All_Scream_for_Ice_Cream)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Song that originated the phrase</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stanford Graduate School of Business</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O1TYgO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Omnivore’s Dilemma</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eater.com/2016/8/26/12636162/choco-taco-klondike-ice-cream-chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Legend of the Choco Taco</a> (invented by Alan Drazen)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_storage_dewar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen “Dewer”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cool.haus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cool Haus in LA</a>, ice cream cookie sandwiches</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jenis.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jeni’s Ice Cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franchising</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“cultivate low-income food entrepreneurs as they formalize and grow their businesses.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Anthony Bourdain</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lori for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rockosicecreamtacos.com</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/RockoSez" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@RockoSez</a> on Twitter.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Lori Phillips, Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos.</p>]]>
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<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-U5TTQ1mReY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!</a> (Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup commercial)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cream_(I_Scream,_You_Scream,_We_All_Scream_for_Ice_Cream)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Song that originated the phrase</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stanford Graduate School of Business</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O1TYgO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Omnivore’s Dilemma</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eater.com/2016/8/26/12636162/choco-taco-klondike-ice-cream-chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Legend of the Choco Taco</a> (invented by Alan Drazen)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_storage_dewar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen “Dewer”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cool.haus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cool Haus in LA</a>, ice cream cookie sandwiches</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jenis.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jeni’s Ice Cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franchising</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“cultivate low-income food entrepreneurs as they formalize and grow their businesses.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Anthony Bourdain</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lori for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rockosicecreamtacos.com</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/RockoSez" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@RockoSez</a> on Twitter.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Lori Phillips, Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>From an immunology Ph.D to ice cream entrepreneur, learn how a book, a funny name, and a memory of an ice cream taco all came together to form Lori’s delicious desert business. We discuss reasons to remaining artisanal, the argument against franchising, and the power of liquid nitrogen.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://youtu.be/-U5TTQ1mReY" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream!</a> (Hershey’s Chocolate Syrup commercial)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Cream_(I_Scream,_You_Scream,_We_All_Scream_for_Ice_Cream)" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Song that originated the phrase</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stanford Graduate School of Business</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O1TYgO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Omnivore’s Dilemma</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.eater.com/2016/8/26/12636162/choco-taco-klondike-ice-cream-chocolate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Legend of the Choco Taco</a> (invented by Alan Drazen)</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryogenic_storage_dewar" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Liquid nitrogen “Dewer”</a></li>
<li><a href="https://cool.haus" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cool Haus in LA</a>, ice cream cookie sandwiches</li>
<li><a href="https://saltandstraw.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salt &amp; Straw</a></li>
<li><a href="https://jenis.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jeni’s Ice Cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franchising" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Franchising</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://lacocinasf.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina</a>—“cultivate low-income food entrepreneurs as they formalize and grow their businesses.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Anthony Bourdain</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lori for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://www.rockosicecreamtacos.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">rockosicecreamtacos.com</a> and <a href="https://twitter.com/RockoSez" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@RockoSez</a> on Twitter.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Lori Phillips, Rocko's Ice Cream Tacos.</p>]]>
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      <title>7: My Kitchen as a Lab, with Guilianna Glassman of Alma Superfoods</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Why does Guilianna of Alma Superfoods say “my kitchen is my lab”?  And how did a dislike of peanut butter turn into a nut butter business? Guilianna grew up in the Peruvian Andes where she helped her mom run a popular catering business. From her mom, she learned how to mix the flavors and aromas of ancient ingredients and was inspired to created her food business.  She leads us through the genesis of Alma Superfoods before taking us on a culinary adventure through Peruvian flavors and ingredients. 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why does Guilianna of Alma Superfoods say “my kitchen is my lab”?  And how did a dislike of peanut butter turn into a nut butter business? Guilianna grew up in the Peruvian Andes where she helped her mom run a popular catering business. From her mom, she learned how to mix the flavors and aromas of ancient ingredients and was inspired to created her food business.  She leads us through the genesis of Alma Superfoods before taking us on a culinary adventure through Peruvian flavors and ingredients. </p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://alma-sf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alma Superfoods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peru</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefs.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Le Cordon Bleu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a> —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rencenter.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Renaissance Center San Francisco</a> —“we have helped over 29,000 entrepreneurs to start and grow more than 15,500 small businesses, creating 24,000 jobs. If you have a business idea you want to explore, are ready to start a business or want to grow your business, Renaissance is here to help you transform your dreams into reality.“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinoa</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidium_meyenii" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maca</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/peru/articles/lucuma-the-next-delicious-superfood-from-peru/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lucuma</a> —“The Next Delicious Superfood from Peru”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ceviche</a> (and <a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/peruvian-fish-ceviche-recipe-1946884" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Food Network recipe</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/aji-amarillo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji amarillo (yellow) pepper</a> —“a bright yellow pepper with a medium heat and nice fruity flavor. Native to South America, Aji Amarillo is predominantly used in Peruvian cuisine to flavor sauces for seafood and poultry.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/aji-panca-peruvian-red-pepper-3029289" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji panca (red) pepper</a> —“dark red, mild pepper with a smokey, fruity taste.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/chipotle-chiles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chipotle pepper</a> —a “smoked-dried jalapeño. With a spicy heat of 3000-5000 Scoville, it is used in Mexican, Southwestern, Tex-Mex dishes. Also popular in bbq rubs. Our variety is chipotle morita produced mainly in northern Mexican state of Chihuahua. With its beautiful reddish brown hue, it will add a wonderful smokey heat to your food.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="http://cuzcoeats.com/a-classic-peruvian-treat-tiradito-in-yellow-aji-sauce/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tiradito</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chifa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chifa</a>, Peruvian Chinese food</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/quinoa-mushroom-risotto-quinotto-3029486" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinotto</a>, Peruvian Quinoa Risotto</li>
<li>Nearly 4,000 different varieties of <a href="https://www.limaeasy.com/peruvian-food-guide/typical-potatoes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peruvian potatoes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lomo_saltado" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lomo Saltado</a> —“marinated strips of sirloin (or other beef steak) with onions, tomatoes, french fries, and other ingredients; and is typically served with rice.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B2_l%C3%BAc_l%E1%BA%AFc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bò lúc lắc/Lok Lak</a>—“cubed beef sauteed with cucumber, tomatoes, red onion, pepper, and soy sauce dish in French-inspired Vietnamese cuisine.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_huacatay" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Huacatay</a>, Peruvian mint</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gast%C3%B3n_Acurio" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastón Acurio</a>, “Peruvian chef and ambassador of Peruvian cuisine”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.limonrotisserie.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Limón Rotisserie San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lamarsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Mar San Francisco</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Guilianna for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://almasuperfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">almasuperfoods.com</a> and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/almasuperfoods/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@almasuperfoods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a> )</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a> )
or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</li>
</ul>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Guilianna Glassman, Alma Superfoods.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why does Guilianna of Alma Superfoods say “my kitchen is my lab”?  And how did a dislike of peanut butter turn into a nut butter business? Guilianna grew up in the Peruvian Andes where she helped her mom run a popular catering business. From her mom, she learned how to mix the flavors and aromas of ancient ingredients and was inspired to created her food business.  She leads us through the genesis of Alma Superfoods before taking us on a culinary adventure through Peruvian flavors and ingredients. </p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://alma-sf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alma Superfoods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peru</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefs.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Le Cordon Bleu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a> —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rencenter.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Renaissance Center San Francisco</a> —“we have helped over 29,000 entrepreneurs to start and grow more than 15,500 small businesses, creating 24,000 jobs. If you have a business idea you want to explore, are ready to start a business or want to grow your business, Renaissance is here to help you transform your dreams into reality.“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinoa</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidium_meyenii" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maca</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/peru/articles/lucuma-the-next-delicious-superfood-from-peru/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lucuma</a> —“The Next Delicious Superfood from Peru”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ceviche</a> (and <a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/peruvian-fish-ceviche-recipe-1946884" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Food Network recipe</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/aji-amarillo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji amarillo (yellow) pepper</a> —“a bright yellow pepper with a medium heat and nice fruity flavor. Native to South America, Aji Amarillo is predominantly used in Peruvian cuisine to flavor sauces for seafood and poultry.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/aji-panca-peruvian-red-pepper-3029289" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji panca (red) pepper</a> —“dark red, mild pepper with a smokey, fruity taste.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/chipotle-chiles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chipotle pepper</a> —a “smoked-dried jalapeño. With a spicy heat of 3000-5000 Scoville, it is used in Mexican, Southwestern, Tex-Mex dishes. Also popular in bbq rubs. Our variety is chipotle morita produced mainly in northern Mexican state of Chihuahua. With its beautiful reddish brown hue, it will add a wonderful smokey heat to your food.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="http://cuzcoeats.com/a-classic-peruvian-treat-tiradito-in-yellow-aji-sauce/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tiradito</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chifa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chifa</a>, Peruvian Chinese food</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/quinoa-mushroom-risotto-quinotto-3029486" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinotto</a>, Peruvian Quinoa Risotto</li>
<li>Nearly 4,000 different varieties of <a href="https://www.limaeasy.com/peruvian-food-guide/typical-potatoes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peruvian potatoes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lomo_saltado" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lomo Saltado</a> —“marinated strips of sirloin (or other beef steak) with onions, tomatoes, french fries, and other ingredients; and is typically served with rice.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B2_l%C3%BAc_l%E1%BA%AFc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bò lúc lắc/Lok Lak</a>—“cubed beef sauteed with cucumber, tomatoes, red onion, pepper, and soy sauce dish in French-inspired Vietnamese cuisine.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_huacatay" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Huacatay</a>, Peruvian mint</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gast%C3%B3n_Acurio" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastón Acurio</a>, “Peruvian chef and ambassador of Peruvian cuisine”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.limonrotisserie.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Limón Rotisserie San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lamarsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Mar San Francisco</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Guilianna for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://almasuperfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">almasuperfoods.com</a> and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/almasuperfoods/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@almasuperfoods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a> )</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a> )
or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</li>
</ul>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Guilianna Glassman, Alma Superfoods.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why does Guilianna of Alma Superfoods say “my kitchen is my lab”?  And how did a dislike of peanut butter turn into a nut butter business? Guilianna grew up in the Peruvian Andes where she helped her mom run a popular catering business. From her mom, she learned how to mix the flavors and aromas of ancient ingredients and was inspired to created her food business.  She leads us through the genesis of Alma Superfoods before taking us on a culinary adventure through Peruvian flavors and ingredients. </p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://alma-sf.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Alma Superfoods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peru</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.chefs.edu/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Le Cordon Bleu</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CEH/DFDCS/Pages/FDBPrograms/FoodSafetyProgram/ProcessedFoodRegistration.aspx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Processed Food Registration (PFR)</a> —“Processors of general food commodities (e.g. baked goods, noodles, processed fresh vegetables, seafood, snack foods, dietary supplements, etc.) must obtain a Processed Food Registration (PFR) from FDB. A PFR certificate is a firm’s basic health permit. The PFR allows firms to manufacture products not specifically covered by another FDB license.”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rencenter.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Renaissance Center San Francisco</a> —“we have helped over 29,000 entrepreneurs to start and grow more than 15,500 small businesses, creating 24,000 jobs. If you have a business idea you want to explore, are ready to start a business or want to grow your business, Renaissance is here to help you transform your dreams into reality.“</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinoa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinoa</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidium_meyenii" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Maca</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/south-america/peru/articles/lucuma-the-next-delicious-superfood-from-peru/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lucuma</a> —“The Next Delicious Superfood from Peru”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ceviche" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ceviche</a> (and <a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/peruvian-fish-ceviche-recipe-1946884" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Food Network recipe</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/aji-amarillo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji amarillo (yellow) pepper</a> —“a bright yellow pepper with a medium heat and nice fruity flavor. Native to South America, Aji Amarillo is predominantly used in Peruvian cuisine to flavor sauces for seafood and poultry.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/aji-panca-peruvian-red-pepper-3029289" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Aji panca (red) pepper</a> —“dark red, mild pepper with a smokey, fruity taste.”</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/chipotle-chiles" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chipotle pepper</a> —a “smoked-dried jalapeño. With a spicy heat of 3000-5000 Scoville, it is used in Mexican, Southwestern, Tex-Mex dishes. Also popular in bbq rubs. Our variety is chipotle morita produced mainly in northern Mexican state of Chihuahua. With its beautiful reddish brown hue, it will add a wonderful smokey heat to your food.” (Spice Hound)</li>
<li><a href="http://cuzcoeats.com/a-classic-peruvian-treat-tiradito-in-yellow-aji-sauce/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tiradito</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chifa" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chifa</a>, Peruvian Chinese food</li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/quinoa-mushroom-risotto-quinotto-3029486" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Quinotto</a>, Peruvian Quinoa Risotto</li>
<li>Nearly 4,000 different varieties of <a href="https://www.limaeasy.com/peruvian-food-guide/typical-potatoes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Peruvian potatoes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lomo_saltado" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lomo Saltado</a> —“marinated strips of sirloin (or other beef steak) with onions, tomatoes, french fries, and other ingredients; and is typically served with rice.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%B2_l%C3%BAc_l%E1%BA%AFc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bò lúc lắc/Lok Lak</a>—“cubed beef sauteed with cucumber, tomatoes, red onion, pepper, and soy sauce dish in French-inspired Vietnamese cuisine.”</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peruvian_huacatay" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Huacatay</a>, Peruvian mint</li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gast%C3%B3n_Acurio" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastón Acurio</a>, “Peruvian chef and ambassador of Peruvian cuisine”</li>
<li><a href="https://www.limonrotisserie.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Limón Rotisserie San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://lamarsf.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Mar San Francisco</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Guilianna for joining us. You can find her at <a href="http://almasuperfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">almasuperfoods.com</a> and on Instagram <a href="https://www.instagram.com/almasuperfoods/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@almasuperfoods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a> )</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a> )</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a> )
or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</li>
</ul>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em>Amazon and other links may be affiliate links. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Guilianna Glassman, Alma Superfoods.</p>]]>
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      <title>6: The Business of Food Awards</title>
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      <itunes:title>The Business of Food Awards</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>The Good Food Awards Mercantile is the place to taste the future of food, from small, sustainable producers. We discuss the Good Food Foundation that puts it on, and chat with two Good Food Guild members, direct from the show floor.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Good Food Awards Mercantile is the place to taste the future of food, from small, sustainable producers. We discuss the Good Food Foundation that puts it on, and chat with two Good Food Guild members, direct from the show floor.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/awards/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/mercantile/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Mercantile</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Specialty Food Association</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/winter-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Winter Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/summer-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Summer Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers Market, San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oregonbark.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tcho.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tcho Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EpIErQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/peanut-info/peanut-types.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Types of peanuts, including Valencia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EqYaDO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco Bay Area</li>
<li><a href="https://www.veganrepublicstore.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Animal Place’s Vegan Republic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vermontamber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anne Smith of Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg of Vermont Amber for joining us. You can follow them on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/oregonbark" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark (@oregonbark)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/vermontamber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee (@vermontamber)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Anne Smith, Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg, Vermont Amber .</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Good Food Awards Mercantile is the place to taste the future of food, from small, sustainable producers. We discuss the Good Food Foundation that puts it on, and chat with two Good Food Guild members, direct from the show floor.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/awards/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/mercantile/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Mercantile</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Specialty Food Association</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/winter-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Winter Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/summer-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Summer Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers Market, San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oregonbark.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tcho.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tcho Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EpIErQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/peanut-info/peanut-types.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Types of peanuts, including Valencia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EqYaDO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco Bay Area</li>
<li><a href="https://www.veganrepublicstore.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Animal Place’s Vegan Republic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vermontamber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anne Smith of Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg of Vermont Amber for joining us. You can follow them on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/oregonbark" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark (@oregonbark)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/vermontamber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee (@vermontamber)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Anne Smith, Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg, Vermont Amber .</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The Good Food Awards Mercantile is the place to taste the future of food, from small, sustainable producers. We discuss the Good Food Foundation that puts it on, and chat with two Good Food Guild members, direct from the show floor.</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Foundation</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/awards/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org/mercantile/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Mercantile</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Specialty Food Association</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/winter-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Winter Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.specialtyfood.com/shows-events/summer-fancy-food-show/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2019 Summer Fancy Food Show</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cafarmersmkts.com/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers Market, San Francisco</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oregonbark.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tcho.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tcho Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EpIErQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.nationalpeanutboard.org/peanut-info/peanut-types.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Types of peanuts, including Valencia</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.guittard.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Guittard Chocolate</a> (<a href="https://amzn.to/2EqYaDO" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco Bay Area</li>
<li><a href="https://www.veganrepublicstore.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Animal Place’s Vegan Republic</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.vermontamber.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Anne Smith of Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg of Vermont Amber for joining us. You can follow them on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/oregonbark" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oregon Bark (@oregonbark)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/vermontamber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Vermont Amber Organic Toffee (@vermontamber)</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2DBzg5j" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a> and other links may be affiliates. Purchases help support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guests: Anne Smith, Oregon Bark and Elizabeth Feinberg, Vermont Amber .</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Lulu runs a cake business, but is her ultimate goal to build a lifestyle brand? A self-taught baker and accidental entrepreneur, Lulu got her start making cakes for friends, who convinced her they were good enough to sell. We learn the value of persistence, the power of social media, and how a beautiful, delicious cake is like an attractive woman with a computer science degree.</itunes:subtitle>
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<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lulu Yum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mille-feuille" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crepe cakes/Mille-feuille/Thousand layer cakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=learn+to+make+cakes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cake making videos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/theory-of-price.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pricing theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pinterest.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pinterest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://instagram.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weibo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Weibo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wechat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeChat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/asia/singapore/articles/8-things-you-need-to-know-about-durian-the-worlds-smelliest-fruit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Durian</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lulu for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">luluyum.com</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/luluyumllc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@luluyumllc</a> on Instagram, and lulu_yum on WeChat.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p><p>Special Guest: Lu Den, Lulu Yum.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Lulu runs a cake business, but is her ultimate goal to build a lifestyle brand? A self-taught baker and accidental entrepreneur, Lulu got her start making cakes for friends, who convinced her they were good enough to sell. We learn the value of persistence, the power of social media, and how a beautiful, delicious cake is like an attractive woman with a computer science degree.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lulu Yum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mille-feuille" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crepe cakes/Mille-feuille/Thousand layer cakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=learn+to+make+cakes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cake making videos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/theory-of-price.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pricing theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pinterest.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pinterest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://instagram.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weibo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Weibo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wechat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeChat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/asia/singapore/articles/8-things-you-need-to-know-about-durian-the-worlds-smelliest-fruit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Durian</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lulu for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">luluyum.com</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/luluyumllc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@luluyumllc</a> on Instagram, and lulu_yum on WeChat.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p><p>Special Guest: Lu Den, Lulu Yum.</p>]]>
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<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lulu Yum</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mille-feuille" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Crepe cakes/Mille-feuille/Thousand layer cakes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=learn+to+make+cakes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cake making videos</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.investopedia.com/terms/t/theory-of-price.asp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pricing theory</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word-of-mouth_marketing" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Word of mouth marketing</a></li>
<li><a href="https://pinterest.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pinterest</a></li>
<li><a href="https://instagram.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.weibo.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Weibo</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.wechat.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">WeChat</a></li>
<li><a href="https://theculturetrip.com/asia/singapore/articles/8-things-you-need-to-know-about-durian-the-worlds-smelliest-fruit/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Durian</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Lulu for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://luluyum.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">luluyum.com</a>, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/luluyumllc/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@luluyumllc</a> on Instagram, and lulu_yum on WeChat.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p><p>Special Guest: Lu Den, Lulu Yum.</p>]]>
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      <title>4: The Appreciation They Deserve, with Mark Priestley of Yummy Artisan Foods</title>
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      <author>lettucewrappod@gmail.com (Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan)</author>
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      <itunes:title>The Appreciation They Deserve, with Mark Priestley of Yummy Artisan Foods</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:author>Christine Doerr, Tammy Tan</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Mark has the best job: he tastes award-winning, artisan-crafted olive oils, chocolates and honey, and shares his finds with the world. He leads us through a chocolate tasting, and chats about why he started his business.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mark has the best job: he tastes award-winning, artisan-crafted olive oils, chocolates and honey, and shares his finds with the world. He leads us through a chocolate tasting, and chats about why he started his business.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://YummyArtisanFoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All About Olive Oil</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nyoliveoil.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New York International Olive Oil Competition</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-coconut-milk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Coconut Milk? And Are You Using the Right Kind? | Bon Appetit</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/charm-school-chocolate-coconut-milk-chocolate?variant=7474610881" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate - Coconut Milk Chocolate – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.charmschoolchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate</a> — Milk chocolate made with coconut milk made with Maya mountain cacao. Bean to Bar Non-Dairy Vegan Chocolate.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/patric-piura-peru-67" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric - Piura Peru 67% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://patric-chocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric Chocolate Handcrafted American Chocolate Online Store</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/acalli-el-platanal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli - El Platanal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.acallichocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/taza-chocolate-dominican-republic-stone-ground-dark-chocolate-80?variant=41386699914" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate - Dominican Republic Stone Ground Dark Chocolate 80% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tazachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate | Organic Stone Ground Chocolate for Bold Flavor</a> — Mexican style dark chocolate</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://chocolatealchemy.com/conching-and-refining/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Conching and Refining — Chocolate Alchemy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://damecacao.com/what-are-chocolate-inclusions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What are Chocolate Inclusions &amp; Why Use Them?</a> — an industry term for any substance added to chocolate beyond the widely accepted ingredients (cacao, cocoa butter, sugar, milk powder, vanilla, and lecithin).</li>
<li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/difference-between-introverts-extroverts-chart_n_57f794c2e4b0b6a430316b3a" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Introverts And Extroverts, In One Simple Chart</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mark for joining us. You can find him online at <a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mark Priestley, Yummy Artisan Foods.</p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark has the best job: he tastes award-winning, artisan-crafted olive oils, chocolates and honey, and shares his finds with the world. He leads us through a chocolate tasting, and chats about why he started his business.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://YummyArtisanFoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All About Olive Oil</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nyoliveoil.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New York International Olive Oil Competition</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-coconut-milk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Coconut Milk? And Are You Using the Right Kind? | Bon Appetit</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/charm-school-chocolate-coconut-milk-chocolate?variant=7474610881" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate - Coconut Milk Chocolate – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.charmschoolchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate</a> — Milk chocolate made with coconut milk made with Maya mountain cacao. Bean to Bar Non-Dairy Vegan Chocolate.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/patric-piura-peru-67" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric - Piura Peru 67% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://patric-chocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric Chocolate Handcrafted American Chocolate Online Store</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/acalli-el-platanal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli - El Platanal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.acallichocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/taza-chocolate-dominican-republic-stone-ground-dark-chocolate-80?variant=41386699914" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate - Dominican Republic Stone Ground Dark Chocolate 80% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tazachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate | Organic Stone Ground Chocolate for Bold Flavor</a> — Mexican style dark chocolate</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://chocolatealchemy.com/conching-and-refining/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Conching and Refining — Chocolate Alchemy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://damecacao.com/what-are-chocolate-inclusions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What are Chocolate Inclusions &amp; Why Use Them?</a> — an industry term for any substance added to chocolate beyond the widely accepted ingredients (cacao, cocoa butter, sugar, milk powder, vanilla, and lecithin).</li>
<li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/difference-between-introverts-extroverts-chart_n_57f794c2e4b0b6a430316b3a" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Introverts And Extroverts, In One Simple Chart</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mark for joining us. You can find him online at <a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mark Priestley, Yummy Artisan Foods.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mark has the best job: he tastes award-winning, artisan-crafted olive oils, chocolates and honey, and shares his finds with the world. He leads us through a chocolate tasting, and chats about why he started his business.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://YummyArtisanFoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.oliveoiltimes.com/olive-oil" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">All About Olive Oil</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://goodfoodfdn.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Food Awards</a></li>
<li><a href="https://nyoliveoil.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">New York International Olive Oil Competition</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-coconut-milk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Coconut Milk? And Are You Using the Right Kind? | Bon Appetit</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/charm-school-chocolate-coconut-milk-chocolate?variant=7474610881" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate - Coconut Milk Chocolate – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.charmschoolchocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Charm School Chocolate</a> — Milk chocolate made with coconut milk made with Maya mountain cacao. Bean to Bar Non-Dairy Vegan Chocolate.</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/patric-piura-peru-67" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric - Piura Peru 67% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://patric-chocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Patric Chocolate Handcrafted American Chocolate Online Store</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/acalli-el-platanal" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli - El Platanal</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.acallichocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Acalli Chocolate</a> </li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com/collections/chocolates/products/taza-chocolate-dominican-republic-stone-ground-dark-chocolate-80?variant=41386699914" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate - Dominican Republic Stone Ground Dark Chocolate 80% – Yummy Artisan Foods</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.tazachocolate.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Taza Chocolate | Organic Stone Ground Chocolate for Bold Flavor</a> — Mexican style dark chocolate</li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://chocolatealchemy.com/conching-and-refining/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Conching and Refining — Chocolate Alchemy</a> </li>
<li><a href="https://damecacao.com/what-are-chocolate-inclusions/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What are Chocolate Inclusions &amp; Why Use Them?</a> — an industry term for any substance added to chocolate beyond the widely accepted ingredients (cacao, cocoa butter, sugar, milk powder, vanilla, and lecithin).</li>
<li><a href="https://www.huffpost.com/entry/difference-between-introverts-extroverts-chart_n_57f794c2e4b0b6a430316b3a" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Difference Between Introverts And Extroverts, In One Simple Chart</a> </li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Mark for joining us. You can find him online at <a href="https://www.yummyartisanfoods.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yummy Artisan Foods</a>.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

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<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Mark Priestley, Yummy Artisan Foods.</p>]]>
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      <title>3: These Shows Stress Me Out</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We pick our favorite shows, movies and documentaries about food and cooking, from old school classics to new school faves. And a few things we definitely do not like.…</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We pick our favorite shows, movies and documentaries about food and cooking, from old school classics to new school faves. And a few things we definitely do not like.…</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K35fvC" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Chef With Julia Child, Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.vh1.com/shows/martha-snoops-potluck-dinner-party" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha and Snoop’s Potluck Dinner Party</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Smith_%28chef%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Frugal Gourmet</a></li>
<li><a href="https://yancancook.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yan Can Cook</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/what-phils-having/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I’ll Have What Phil’s Having (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SbSy4L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/ill-have-what-phils-having/id1038130297?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80146601" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chopped</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8gchx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/chopped-season-1/id833811291?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw00" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (Japan)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/iron-chef-america" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (America)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R40s2U" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2CqqRjn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-great-british-baking-show-season-1/id1131276110?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05909nd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Big Family Cooking Showdown</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80186090" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neff-home.com/uk/discover/slideandhide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neff Slide &amp; Hide® Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="https://emerils.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Emeril Lagasse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rachaelray.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rachel Ray</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/semi-homemade-cooking-with-sandra-lee" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Semi Home Made with Sandra Lee</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.americastestkitchen.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">America’s Test Kitchen</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S6Ly97" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/americas-test-kitchen-season-18/id1365794596?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cooksillustrated.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Illustrated</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookscountry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Country</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sb1nvN" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/cooks-country-season-11/id1426096208?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/good-eats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Eats</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UXqHHp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/good-eats-season-1/id797683014?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/two-fat-ladies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Two Fat Ladies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/masterchef-junior/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">MasterChef Junior</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaDcjQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/masterchef-junior-season-6/id1347244493?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ina Gardner, <a href="https://barefootcontessa.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barefoot Contessa</a></li>
<li>Anthony Bourdain

<ul>
<li><a href="https://explorepartsunknown.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Parts Unknown</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2EE07y1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown-season-1/id692794059?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/anthony-bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">No Reservations</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S9MWbh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-no-reservations-vol-1/id278268017?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookingchanneltv.com/shows/a-cooks-tour" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PSFzqD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour Book</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BuCzrm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DAkVG8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen Confidential (Book)</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Chef’s Table (Netflix) </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ugly Delicious (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UZMSNg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jiro Dreams of Sushi (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2LqY29i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jiro-dreams-of-sushi/id542088376?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sc1uaj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ratatouille (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BtLXf0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/ratatouille/id265250067?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaBPlc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Super Size Me (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sbkdml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/super-size-me/id1051587810?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QHvGgZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Founder (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Founder-Michael-Keaton/dp/B01MY7FWXU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-founder/id1194429339?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UWx9ym" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Like Water for Chocolate (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FhqACE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/like-water-for-chocolate/id432519916?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RbHPtG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolat (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K13i2s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/chocolat/id432470218?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2V0FAZl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat, Drink, Man, Woman (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fl5hQA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/eat-drink-man-woman/id410106353?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fhr8II" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tortilla Soup (Amazon Prime Video)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/tortilla-soup/id1044821940?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TaUACW" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Search for General Tso (Amazon Prime Video</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-search-for-general-tso/id948189955?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ken Burns’ Prohibition (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R7jyoF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/prohibition-a-film-by-ken-burns-and-lynn-novick/id464144773?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JZVUEL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blu-Ray</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.justinwilson.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson</a>, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87-WlhWwLBo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I guarantee!</a>”

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+easy+cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Easy Cookin’</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+cookin+cajun" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cookin’ Cajun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+Louisiana+Cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Louisiana Cookin’</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Best Thing I Ever Ate</a>  (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FkynzG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate-season-8/id1308310878?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/hells-kitchen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hell’s Kitchen with Gordon Ramsay</a> (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DlVwim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/hells-kitchen-season-18/id1421397431?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80179138" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nailed It! (Netflix)</a> (anti-pick!)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.birthofsake.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Birth of Saké</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RQhT3D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-birth-of-sak%C3%A9/id1089311959?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80050064" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
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<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We pick our favorite shows, movies and documentaries about food and cooking, from old school classics to new school faves. And a few things we definitely do not like.…</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K35fvC" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Chef With Julia Child, Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.vh1.com/shows/martha-snoops-potluck-dinner-party" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha and Snoop’s Potluck Dinner Party</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Smith_%28chef%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Frugal Gourmet</a></li>
<li><a href="https://yancancook.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yan Can Cook</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/what-phils-having/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I’ll Have What Phil’s Having (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SbSy4L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/ill-have-what-phils-having/id1038130297?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80146601" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chopped</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8gchx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/chopped-season-1/id833811291?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw00" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (Japan)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/iron-chef-america" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (America)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R40s2U" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2CqqRjn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-great-british-baking-show-season-1/id1131276110?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05909nd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Big Family Cooking Showdown</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80186090" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neff-home.com/uk/discover/slideandhide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neff Slide &amp; Hide® Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="https://emerils.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Emeril Lagasse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rachaelray.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rachel Ray</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/semi-homemade-cooking-with-sandra-lee" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Semi Home Made with Sandra Lee</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.americastestkitchen.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">America’s Test Kitchen</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S6Ly97" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/americas-test-kitchen-season-18/id1365794596?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cooksillustrated.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Illustrated</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookscountry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Country</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sb1nvN" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/cooks-country-season-11/id1426096208?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/good-eats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Eats</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UXqHHp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/good-eats-season-1/id797683014?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/two-fat-ladies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Two Fat Ladies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/masterchef-junior/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">MasterChef Junior</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaDcjQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/masterchef-junior-season-6/id1347244493?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ina Gardner, <a href="https://barefootcontessa.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barefoot Contessa</a></li>
<li>Anthony Bourdain

<ul>
<li><a href="https://explorepartsunknown.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Parts Unknown</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2EE07y1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown-season-1/id692794059?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/anthony-bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">No Reservations</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S9MWbh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-no-reservations-vol-1/id278268017?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookingchanneltv.com/shows/a-cooks-tour" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PSFzqD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour Book</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BuCzrm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DAkVG8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen Confidential (Book)</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Chef’s Table (Netflix) </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ugly Delicious (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UZMSNg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jiro Dreams of Sushi (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2LqY29i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jiro-dreams-of-sushi/id542088376?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sc1uaj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ratatouille (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BtLXf0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/ratatouille/id265250067?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaBPlc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Super Size Me (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sbkdml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/super-size-me/id1051587810?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QHvGgZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Founder (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Founder-Michael-Keaton/dp/B01MY7FWXU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-founder/id1194429339?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UWx9ym" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Like Water for Chocolate (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FhqACE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/like-water-for-chocolate/id432519916?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RbHPtG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolat (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K13i2s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/chocolat/id432470218?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2V0FAZl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat, Drink, Man, Woman (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fl5hQA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/eat-drink-man-woman/id410106353?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fhr8II" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tortilla Soup (Amazon Prime Video)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/tortilla-soup/id1044821940?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TaUACW" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Search for General Tso (Amazon Prime Video</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-search-for-general-tso/id948189955?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ken Burns’ Prohibition (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R7jyoF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/prohibition-a-film-by-ken-burns-and-lynn-novick/id464144773?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JZVUEL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blu-Ray</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.justinwilson.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson</a>, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87-WlhWwLBo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I guarantee!</a>”

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+easy+cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Easy Cookin’</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+cookin+cajun" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cookin’ Cajun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+Louisiana+Cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Louisiana Cookin’</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Best Thing I Ever Ate</a>  (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FkynzG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate-season-8/id1308310878?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/hells-kitchen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hell’s Kitchen with Gordon Ramsay</a> (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DlVwim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/hells-kitchen-season-18/id1421397431?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80179138" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nailed It! (Netflix)</a> (anti-pick!)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.birthofsake.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Birth of Saké</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RQhT3D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-birth-of-sak%C3%A9/id1089311959?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80050064" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

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        <![CDATA[<p>We pick our favorite shows, movies and documentaries about food and cooking, from old school classics to new school faves. And a few things we definitely do not like.…</p>

<h3>Links and Show Notes</h3>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K35fvC" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The French Chef With Julia Child, Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.marthastewart.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha Stewart</a> </li>
<li><a href="http://www.vh1.com/shows/martha-snoops-potluck-dinner-party" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Martha and Snoop’s Potluck Dinner Party</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Smith_%28chef%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Frugal Gourmet</a></li>
<li><a href="https://yancancook.com/home/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Yan Can Cook</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/what-phils-having/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I’ll Have What Phil’s Having (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2SbSy4L" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/ill-have-what-phils-having/id1038130297?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80146601" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Somebody Feed Phil (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chopped</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Q8gchx" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/chopped-season-1/id833811291?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw00" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Chef" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (Japan)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/iron-chef-america" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Iron Chef (America)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R40s2U" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://thegreatbritishbakeoff.co.uk" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Great British Bake Off</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2CqqRjn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-great-british-baking-show-season-1/id1131276110?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05909nd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Big Family Cooking Showdown</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80186090" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.neff-home.com/uk/discover/slideandhide" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Neff Slide &amp; Hide® Oven</a></li>
<li><a href="https://emerils.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Emeril Lagasse</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.rachaelray.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rachel Ray</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/semi-homemade-cooking-with-sandra-lee" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Semi Home Made with Sandra Lee</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.americastestkitchen.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">America’s Test Kitchen</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S6Ly97" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/americas-test-kitchen-season-18/id1365794596?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cooksillustrated.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Illustrated</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookscountry.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cook’s Country</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sb1nvN" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/cooks-country-season-11/id1426096208?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/good-eats" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Good Eats</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UXqHHp" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/good-eats-season-1/id797683014?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/two-fat-ladies" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Two Fat Ladies</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/masterchef-junior/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">MasterChef Junior</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaDcjQ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/masterchef-junior-season-6/id1347244493?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li>Ina Gardner, <a href="https://barefootcontessa.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Barefoot Contessa</a></li>
<li>Anthony Bourdain

<ul>
<li><a href="https://explorepartsunknown.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Parts Unknown</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2EE07y1" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-parts-unknown-season-1/id692794059?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.travelchannel.com/shows/anthony-bourdain" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">No Reservations</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2S9MWbh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/anthony-bourdain-no-reservations-vol-1/id278268017?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.cookingchanneltv.com/shows/a-cooks-tour" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2PSFzqD" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Cook’s Tour Book</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BuCzrm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DAkVG8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen Confidential (Book)</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80007945" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">A Chef’s Table (Netflix) </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80170368" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ugly Delicious (Netflix)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UZMSNg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Jiro Dreams of Sushi (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2LqY29i" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/jiro-dreams-of-sushi/id542088376?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sc1uaj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ratatouille (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2BtLXf0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/ratatouille/id265250067?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RaBPlc" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Super Size Me (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Sbkdml" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/super-size-me/id1051587810?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2QHvGgZ" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Founder (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li> <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Founder-Michael-Keaton/dp/B01MY7FWXU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-founder/id1194429339?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2UWx9ym" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Like Water for Chocolate (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FhqACE" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/like-water-for-chocolate/id432519916?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RbHPtG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolat (Blu-Ray)</a> 

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2K13i2s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/chocolat/id432470218?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2V0FAZl" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Eat, Drink, Man, Woman (Blu-Ray)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fl5hQA" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/eat-drink-man-woman/id410106353?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Fhr8II" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tortilla Soup (Amazon Prime Video)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/tortilla-soup/id1044821940?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2TaUACW" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Search for General Tso (Amazon Prime Video</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-search-for-general-tso/id948189955?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ken Burns’ Prohibition (PBS)</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2R7jyoF" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/prohibition-a-film-by-ken-burns-and-lynn-novick/id464144773?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2JZVUEL" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blu-Ray</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="http://www.justinwilson.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson</a>, “<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87-WlhWwLBo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">I guarantee!</a>”

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+easy+cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Easy Cookin’</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+cookin+cajun" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Cookin’ Cajun</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=justin+wilson+Louisiana+Cookin" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Justin Wilson’s Louisiana Cookin’</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Best Thing I Ever Ate</a>  (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2FkynzG" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/the-best-thing-i-ever-ate-season-8/id1308310878?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.fox.com/hells-kitchen/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Hell’s Kitchen with Gordon Ramsay</a> (anti-pick!)

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2DlVwim" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/tv-season/hells-kitchen-season-18/id1421397431?mt=4&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80179138" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nailed It! (Netflix)</a> (anti-pick!)</li>
<li><a href="http://www.birthofsake.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">The Birth of Saké</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2RQhT3D" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon Prime Video</a></li>
<li><a href="https://geo.itunes.apple.com/us/movie/the-birth-of-sak%C3%A9/id1089311959?mt=6&amp;at=1010lKVW&amp;ct=lw003" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">iTunes</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.netflix.com/watch/80050064" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Netflix</a></li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod</a>)</li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr</a>)</li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound</a>)</li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p>]]>
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      <title>2: Not to Yuck My Mom's Yum, with Melanie Rogers of Slow Brine</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Melanie has a pickle problem, and there’s only one way to solve it: More pickles! Can she pickle anything? We explore the difficulty of starting a food business when you have no experience, and getting hung up on the details that don’t matter (or do they?). There’s value in an enthusiastic partner when starting a business who helps with the heavy lifting (literally and figuratively). In our Wrap-id Fire round, we explore ‘kraut and pickle pairings, some good, some... less good.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Melanie has a pickle problem, and there’s only one way to solve it: More pickles! Can she pickle <em>anything</em>? We explore the difficulty of starting a food business when you have no experience, and getting hung up on the details that don’t matter (or do they?). There’s value in an enthusiastic partner when starting a business who helps with the heavy lifting (literally and figuratively). In our <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire round, we explore ‘kraut and pickle pairings, some good, some... less good.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Slow Brine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/sauerkraut-the-quintessential-eastern-european-vegetable-1137498" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sauerkraut</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimchi</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/healthy/packages/healthy-every-week/healthy-tips/fermented-fundamentals" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Fermentation? Benefits of Fermentation + How to Ferment Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.baumancollege.org/programs/natural-chef/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Natural Chef</a> program at Bauman College in Berkeley, CA.</li>
<li><a href="https://99designs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">99 Designs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://half-moon-bay-wasabi.myshopify.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half Moon Bay Wasabi Farm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Wasabi plant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Kraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sobremesa.life" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SobreMesa </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-miso" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Miso</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/06/guide-japanese-pickles-tsukemono.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Do You Know Your Tsukemono? A Guide to Japanese Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blaukraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/b6c56638-c815-4403-bb53-3982346a8277/1/%3Fi%3D1%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salvadoran Curtido</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/9befebae-aede-427f-a5ac-b0eb051d7114/4/%3Fi%3D4%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiery Kimchi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seed and Salt Sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hmbreview.com/food_and_drink/local-company-wins-food-award/article_fc53f484-d563-11e7-9da9-23bff1342c26.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Local company wins food award. Slow Brine noted for sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/celery-seeds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Celery Seeds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nigella" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nigella</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber#US_kosher_dill" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half sour vs. Full sour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umeboshi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Umeboshi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/pickle-ice-cream-is-a-thing/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickle ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garlic ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tipsybartender.com/recipe/pickleback-shot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickleback</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/food/recipes/dirtymartini_93631" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dirty Martini</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.liquor.com/recipes/classic-bloody-mary/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bloody Mary</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://homeguides.sfgate.com/white-wonder-cucumbers-31005.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White Cucumber/White Wonder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.spicehound.com/detail.php?list=spice&amp;id=80" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Chiles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/wherecanibuy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Where to buy Slow Brine</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Farmers’ Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/CastroFarmersMarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Castro Famers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://fortmason.org/event/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/spanglersmarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spangler’s Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://driversmarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Driver’s Market</a>, Sausalito, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.oceanamarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oceana Market</a>, Pacifica, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://bianchinismarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bianchi’s Market</a>, San Carlos, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.visitmarin.org/business/palace-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Palace Market</a>, Point Reyes, CA</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Melanie for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">slowbrine.com</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/slowbrine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@slowbrine</a> on Instagram.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Melanie Rogers, Slow Brine.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Melanie has a pickle problem, and there’s only one way to solve it: More pickles! Can she pickle <em>anything</em>? We explore the difficulty of starting a food business when you have no experience, and getting hung up on the details that don’t matter (or do they?). There’s value in an enthusiastic partner when starting a business who helps with the heavy lifting (literally and figuratively). In our <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire round, we explore ‘kraut and pickle pairings, some good, some... less good.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Slow Brine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/sauerkraut-the-quintessential-eastern-european-vegetable-1137498" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sauerkraut</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimchi</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/healthy/packages/healthy-every-week/healthy-tips/fermented-fundamentals" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Fermentation? Benefits of Fermentation + How to Ferment Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.baumancollege.org/programs/natural-chef/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Natural Chef</a> program at Bauman College in Berkeley, CA.</li>
<li><a href="https://99designs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">99 Designs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://half-moon-bay-wasabi.myshopify.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half Moon Bay Wasabi Farm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Wasabi plant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Kraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sobremesa.life" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SobreMesa </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-miso" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Miso</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/06/guide-japanese-pickles-tsukemono.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Do You Know Your Tsukemono? A Guide to Japanese Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blaukraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/b6c56638-c815-4403-bb53-3982346a8277/1/%3Fi%3D1%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salvadoran Curtido</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/9befebae-aede-427f-a5ac-b0eb051d7114/4/%3Fi%3D4%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiery Kimchi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seed and Salt Sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hmbreview.com/food_and_drink/local-company-wins-food-award/article_fc53f484-d563-11e7-9da9-23bff1342c26.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Local company wins food award. Slow Brine noted for sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/celery-seeds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Celery Seeds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nigella" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nigella</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber#US_kosher_dill" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half sour vs. Full sour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umeboshi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Umeboshi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/pickle-ice-cream-is-a-thing/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickle ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garlic ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tipsybartender.com/recipe/pickleback-shot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickleback</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/food/recipes/dirtymartini_93631" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dirty Martini</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.liquor.com/recipes/classic-bloody-mary/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bloody Mary</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://homeguides.sfgate.com/white-wonder-cucumbers-31005.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White Cucumber/White Wonder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.spicehound.com/detail.php?list=spice&amp;id=80" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Chiles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/wherecanibuy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Where to buy Slow Brine</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Farmers’ Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/CastroFarmersMarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Castro Famers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://fortmason.org/event/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/spanglersmarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spangler’s Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://driversmarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Driver’s Market</a>, Sausalito, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.oceanamarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oceana Market</a>, Pacifica, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://bianchinismarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bianchi’s Market</a>, San Carlos, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.visitmarin.org/business/palace-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Palace Market</a>, Point Reyes, CA</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Melanie for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">slowbrine.com</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/slowbrine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@slowbrine</a> on Instagram.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Melanie Rogers, Slow Brine.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Melanie has a pickle problem, and there’s only one way to solve it: More pickles! Can she pickle <em>anything</em>? We explore the difficulty of starting a food business when you have no experience, and getting hung up on the details that don’t matter (or do they?). There’s value in an enthusiastic partner when starting a business who helps with the heavy lifting (literally and figuratively). In our <em>Wrap</em>-id Fire round, we explore ‘kraut and pickle pairings, some good, some... less good.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Slow Brine</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/sauerkraut-the-quintessential-eastern-european-vegetable-1137498" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Sauerkraut</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kimchi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kimchi</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/healthy/packages/healthy-every-week/healthy-tips/fermented-fundamentals" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">What Is Fermentation? Benefits of Fermentation + How to Ferment Foods</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.baumancollege.org/programs/natural-chef/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Natural Chef</a> program at Bauman College in Berkeley, CA.</li>
<li><a href="https://99designs.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">99 Designs</a></li>
<li><a href="https://half-moon-bay-wasabi.myshopify.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half Moon Bay Wasabi Farm</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasabi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Wasabi plant</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Kraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://sobremesa.life" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SobreMesa </a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.bonappetit.com/story/what-is-miso" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Miso</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.seriouseats.com/2014/06/guide-japanese-pickles-tsukemono.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Do You Know Your Tsukemono? A Guide to Japanese Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Blaukraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/b6c56638-c815-4403-bb53-3982346a8277/1/%3Fi%3D1%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Salvadoran Curtido</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/9befebae-aede-427f-a5ac-b0eb051d7114/4/%3Fi%3D4%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fiery Kimchi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/fullscreen-page/comp-jb8my5e8/a7dda4dc-d81b-46c5-9ffe-e19c91ea5462/0/%3Fi%3D0%26p%3DaboutPage%26s%3Dstyle-jch1zfq3" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Seed and Salt Sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.hmbreview.com/food_and_drink/local-company-wins-food-award/article_fc53f484-d563-11e7-9da9-23bff1342c26.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Local company wins food award. Slow Brine noted for sauerkraut</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/celery-seeds" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Celery Seeds</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/nigella" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Nigella</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pickled_cucumber#US_kosher_dill" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Half sour vs. Full sour</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umeboshi" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Umeboshi</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.tasteofhome.com/article/pickle-ice-cream-is-a-thing/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickle ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/gilroy-garlic-ice-cream-recipe-101385" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garlic ice cream</a></li>
<li><a href="https://tipsybartender.com/recipe/pickleback-shot/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pickleback</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.bbc.com/food/recipes/dirtymartini_93631" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dirty Martini</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://www.liquor.com/recipes/classic-bloody-mary/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bloody Mary</a> recipe</li>
<li><a href="https://homeguides.sfgate.com/white-wonder-cucumbers-31005.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">White Cucumber/White Wonder</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/thegoods" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Pickles</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.spicehound.com/detail.php?list=spice&amp;id=80" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Ghost Chiles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.slowbrine.com/wherecanibuy" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Where to buy Slow Brine</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.coastsidefarmersmarkets.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Coastside Farmers’ Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/CastroFarmersMarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Castro Famers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://fortmason.org/event/fort-mason-center-farmers-market/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Fort Mason Farmers’ Market</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.facebook.com/spanglersmarket/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Spangler’s Market</a>, Half Moon Bay, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.rainbow.coop" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Rainbow Grocery</a>, San Francisco, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://driversmarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Driver’s Market</a>, Sausalito, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://www.oceanamarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Oceana Market</a>, Pacifica, CA</li>
<li><a href="http://bianchinismarket.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bianchi’s Market</a>, San Carlos, CA</li>
<li><a href="https://www.visitmarin.org/business/palace-market" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Palace Market</a>, Point Reyes, CA</li>
</ul></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Melanie for joining us. You can find her online at <a href="https://www.slowbrine.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">slowbrine.com</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/slowbrine/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">@slowbrine</a> on Instagram.</p>

<p>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucewrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucewrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p><em><a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</em></p><p>Special Guest: Melanie Rogers, Slow Brine.</p>]]>
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      <title>1: A Crust and Fudgy Center, with Amanda Garcia of NeoCocoa</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Amanda Garcia joins us to explore the value of attending school to get experience—and confidence—vs. getting into the industry early. Amanda—who fell in love with chocolate while attending pastry school—shares her thoughts on learning the fundamentals, and the difficulty of getting into a kitchen without kitchen experience, then reflects on missing out on "home economics" class as an "older" millennial. She looks forward five years and the impact of living in the Bay Area on her plans. We explore food and flavor pairings, where Amanda opines about pumpkin spice and other "trends". In the quick fire round, we force impossible choices, and end the episode recapping what we learned.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amanda Garcia joins us to explore the value of attending school to get experience—and confidence—vs. getting into the industry early. Amanda—who fell in love with chocolate while attending pastry school—shares her thoughts on learning the fundamentals, and the difficulty of getting into a kitchen without kitchen experience, then reflects on missing out on "home economics" class as an "older" millennial. She looks forward five years and the impact of living in the Bay Area on her plans. We explore food and flavor pairings, where Amanda opines on about pumpkin spice and other "trends". In the quick fire round, we force impossible choices, and  end the episode recapping what we learned.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.internationalculinarycenter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">International Culinary Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_economics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Ec(onomics) class</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/archive/millennials/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Millennials</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Sesame Brittle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/marshmallow/double-chocolate-marshmallow-squares.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a></li>
<li>A reminder: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJM8yJTn_I0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>"don't get high on your own supply"</em></a>—<a href="https://amzn.to/2Nkbrzh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Scarface</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/2018/11/02/the-2018-advent-calendar-is-here/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2018 Advent Calendar</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.perfectdailygrind.com/2017/12/bean-bar-chocolate-label-really-mean/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bean to Bar</a> — "Many of the companies selling bean-to-bar chocolate also care about quality, sustainability, and transparency. What’s more, they believe bean-to-bar models can support them in this. It enables traceability which helps them to be aware of the production and processing practices, ensure best practices are followed, and understand how workers are being treated."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O0n6sd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Making Chocolate: From Bean to Bar to S'more</a> by Dandelion Chocolates</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin (pie) Spice</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir</a> — "Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis."</li>
<li>"<a href="https://gastropod.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastropod</a> looks at food through the lens of science and history."

<ul>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/we-heart-chocolate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Heart Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/watch-it-wiggle-the-jell-o-story/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch it Wiggle: The Jell-O Story</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.podcastone.com/small-town-murder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Small Town Murder</a> — "Two comedians look at a small town, what makes it tick, and a murder that took place there. In depth research, horrible tragedy, and the hosts' comedic spin on the whole thing."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Quq3Oj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Reading books</a> vs. <a href="https://amzn.to/2NlNHKV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">audiobooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2OCgm3k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duncan Hines brownie mix</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Amanda for joining us. You can find her on <a href="https://twitter.com/cocoalibris" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter (@cocoalibris)</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chocamanda/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@chocamanda)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p>_<a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</p><p>Special Guest: Amanda Garcia, NeoCocoa.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amanda Garcia joins us to explore the value of attending school to get experience—and confidence—vs. getting into the industry early. Amanda—who fell in love with chocolate while attending pastry school—shares her thoughts on learning the fundamentals, and the difficulty of getting into a kitchen without kitchen experience, then reflects on missing out on "home economics" class as an "older" millennial. She looks forward five years and the impact of living in the Bay Area on her plans. We explore food and flavor pairings, where Amanda opines on about pumpkin spice and other "trends". In the quick fire round, we force impossible choices, and  end the episode recapping what we learned.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.internationalculinarycenter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">International Culinary Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_economics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Ec(onomics) class</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/archive/millennials/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Millennials</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Sesame Brittle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/marshmallow/double-chocolate-marshmallow-squares.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a></li>
<li>A reminder: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJM8yJTn_I0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>"don't get high on your own supply"</em></a>—<a href="https://amzn.to/2Nkbrzh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Scarface</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/2018/11/02/the-2018-advent-calendar-is-here/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2018 Advent Calendar</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.perfectdailygrind.com/2017/12/bean-bar-chocolate-label-really-mean/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bean to Bar</a> — "Many of the companies selling bean-to-bar chocolate also care about quality, sustainability, and transparency. What’s more, they believe bean-to-bar models can support them in this. It enables traceability which helps them to be aware of the production and processing practices, ensure best practices are followed, and understand how workers are being treated."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O0n6sd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Making Chocolate: From Bean to Bar to S'more</a> by Dandelion Chocolates</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin (pie) Spice</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir</a> — "Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis."</li>
<li>"<a href="https://gastropod.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastropod</a> looks at food through the lens of science and history."

<ul>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/we-heart-chocolate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Heart Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/watch-it-wiggle-the-jell-o-story/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch it Wiggle: The Jell-O Story</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.podcastone.com/small-town-murder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Small Town Murder</a> — "Two comedians look at a small town, what makes it tick, and a murder that took place there. In depth research, horrible tragedy, and the hosts' comedic spin on the whole thing."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Quq3Oj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Reading books</a> vs. <a href="https://amzn.to/2NlNHKV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">audiobooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2OCgm3k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duncan Hines brownie mix</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Amanda for joining us. You can find her on <a href="https://twitter.com/cocoalibris" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter (@cocoalibris)</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chocamanda/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@chocamanda)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p>_<a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</p><p>Special Guest: Amanda Garcia, NeoCocoa.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amanda Garcia joins us to explore the value of attending school to get experience—and confidence—vs. getting into the industry early. Amanda—who fell in love with chocolate while attending pastry school—shares her thoughts on learning the fundamentals, and the difficulty of getting into a kitchen without kitchen experience, then reflects on missing out on "home economics" class as an "older" millennial. She looks forward five years and the impact of living in the Bay Area on her plans. We explore food and flavor pairings, where Amanda opines on about pumpkin spice and other "trends". In the quick fire round, we force impossible choices, and  end the episode recapping what we learned.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.internationalculinarycenter.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">International Culinary Center</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_economics" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Home Ec(onomics) class</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.goldmansachs.com/insights/archive/millennials/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Millennials</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stage_%28cooking%29" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Stage</a> — An unpaid internship when a cook or chef works briefly, for free, in another chef's kitchen to learn and be exposed to new techniques and cuisines.</li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/brittle/sesame-seed-brittle-51.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Black Sesame Brittle</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/treats/marshmallow/double-chocolate-marshmallow-squares.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Double Chocolate Marshmallow Squares</a></li>
<li>A reminder: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJM8yJTn_I0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>"don't get high on your own supply"</em></a>—<a href="https://amzn.to/2Nkbrzh" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener"><em>Scarface</em></a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Dandelion Chocolate</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.dandelionchocolate.com/2018/11/02/the-2018-advent-calendar-is-here/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">2018 Advent Calendar</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.perfectdailygrind.com/2017/12/bean-bar-chocolate-label-really-mean/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Bean to Bar</a> — "Many of the companies selling bean-to-bar chocolate also care about quality, sustainability, and transparency. What’s more, they believe bean-to-bar models can support them in this. It enables traceability which helps them to be aware of the production and processing practices, ensure best practices are followed, and understand how workers are being treated."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2O0n6sd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Making Chocolate: From Bean to Bar to S'more</a> by Dandelion Chocolates</li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/pumpkin-pie-spice" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Pumpkin (pie) Spice</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terroir" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Terroir</a> — "Some artisanal crops for which terroir is studied include wine, coffee, tobacco, chocolate, chili peppers, hops, agave (for making tequila and mezcal), tomatoes, heritage wheat, maple syrup, tea, and cannabis."</li>
<li>"<a href="https://gastropod.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Gastropod</a> looks at food through the lens of science and history."

<ul>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/we-heart-chocolate/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">We Heart Chocolate</a></li>
<li><a href="https://gastropod.com/watch-it-wiggle-the-jell-o-story/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Watch it Wiggle: The Jell-O Story</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.podcastone.com/small-town-murder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Small Town Murder</a> — "Two comedians look at a small town, what makes it tick, and a murder that took place there. In depth research, horrible tragedy, and the hosts' comedic spin on the whole thing."</li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2Quq3Oj" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Reading books</a> vs. <a href="https://amzn.to/2NlNHKV" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">audiobooks</a></li>
<li><a href="https://amzn.to/2OCgm3k" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Duncan Hines brownie mix</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.pbs.org/food/julia-child/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Julia Child</a></li>
</ul>

<p>Our thanks to Amanda for joining us. You can find her on <a href="https://twitter.com/cocoalibris" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Twitter (@cocoalibris)</a> and <a href="https://www.instagram.com/chocamanda/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Instagram (@chocamanda)</a>.</p>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>

<p>_<a href="https://amzn.to/2LwIAZg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Amazon</a>, iTunes and other links may be affiliate links. Clicking on a link may earn us a small commission from your purchases, which helps support the show.</p><p>Special Guest: Amanda Garcia, NeoCocoa.</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We're Christine and Tammy: friends, food enthusiasts and entrepreneurs. Between us, we own three food businesses, and have lots to say about food, the food business, and the people who work in our industry. In this pilot episode, we share our backstory and the reasons we started Lettuce Wrap. Learn how Christine’s candy selling leads to deboning a duck which leads to an epiphany. A multitude of kitchen jobs leads to a career in graphic design, and it all ends in a sandwich of chef-ery. Meanwhile, Tammy turns up her nose at high tech to sniff out spices for a living, converts chicken into cuisine, and farmers markets become retail stores become online stores. Our inaugural "quick fire round" puts Tammy into a spice quandary, and Christine picks a favorite truffle and meal. And we learn which of us is the true food adventurer.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're Christine and Tammy: friends, food enthusiasts and entrepreneurs. Between us, we own three food businesses, and have lots to say about food, the food business, and the people who work in our industry.</p>

<p>In this pilot episode, we share our backstory and the reasons we started Lettuce Wrap.</p>

<p>Learn how Christine’s candy selling leads to deboning a duck which leads to an epiphany. A multitude of kitchen jobs leads to a career in graphic design, and it all ends in a sandwich of chef-ery. </p>

<p>Meanwhile, Tammy turns up her nose at high tech to sniff out spices for a living, converts chicken into cuisine, and farmers markets become retail stores become online stores. </p>

<p>Our inaugural "quick fire round" puts Tammy into a spice quandary, and Christine picks a favorite truffle and meal. And we learn which of us is the true food adventurer.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a></li>
<li><a href="http://spicehound.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SpiceHound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://facebook.com/Kitchen519Belmont" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen 519</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sjsu.edu/design/design_programs/graphic_design_program/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Jose State Graphic Design program</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina | San Francisco Incubator Kitchen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/malaysia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysia</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/701/world-cuisine/asian/malaysian/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysian recipes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chowhound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_truffle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate truffles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688084643876" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tellicherry Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688330960932" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lampong Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/himalayan-pink-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Himalayan Pink Salt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/grey-sea-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">French Grey Salt (Sel Gris)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kikkoman.com/en/shokuiku/soysaucemuseum/making/index_en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Soy sauce</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Umami</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/garlic-granules" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garlic granules</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/truffles/single-flavor/toasted-coconut.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toasted Coconut truffle</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're Christine and Tammy: friends, food enthusiasts and entrepreneurs. Between us, we own three food businesses, and have lots to say about food, the food business, and the people who work in our industry.</p>

<p>In this pilot episode, we share our backstory and the reasons we started Lettuce Wrap.</p>

<p>Learn how Christine’s candy selling leads to deboning a duck which leads to an epiphany. A multitude of kitchen jobs leads to a career in graphic design, and it all ends in a sandwich of chef-ery. </p>

<p>Meanwhile, Tammy turns up her nose at high tech to sniff out spices for a living, converts chicken into cuisine, and farmers markets become retail stores become online stores. </p>

<p>Our inaugural "quick fire round" puts Tammy into a spice quandary, and Christine picks a favorite truffle and meal. And we learn which of us is the true food adventurer.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a></li>
<li><a href="http://spicehound.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SpiceHound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://facebook.com/Kitchen519Belmont" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen 519</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sjsu.edu/design/design_programs/graphic_design_program/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Jose State Graphic Design program</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina | San Francisco Incubator Kitchen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/malaysia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysia</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/701/world-cuisine/asian/malaysian/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysian recipes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chowhound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_truffle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate truffles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688084643876" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tellicherry Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688330960932" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lampong Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/himalayan-pink-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Himalayan Pink Salt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/grey-sea-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">French Grey Salt (Sel Gris)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kikkoman.com/en/shokuiku/soysaucemuseum/making/index_en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Soy sauce</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Umami</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/garlic-granules" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Garlic granules</a></li>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com/truffles/single-flavor/toasted-coconut.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Toasted Coconut truffle</a></li>
</ul>

<p><strong>Thank you for listening. You can follow us on Twitter:</strong></p>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/lettucewrappod" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lettuce Wrap (@lettucewrappod)</a></li>
<li><a href="https://twitter.com/christinedoerr" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Christine Doerr (@christinedoerr)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://twitter.com/spicehound" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tammy Tan (@spicehound)</a></li>
</ul>

<p>or email us at <a href="mailto:lettucerwrappod@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">lettucerwrappod@gmail.com</a>.</p>

<p>That’s a wrap!</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We're Christine and Tammy: friends, food enthusiasts and entrepreneurs. Between us, we own three food businesses, and have lots to say about food, the food business, and the people who work in our industry.</p>

<p>In this pilot episode, we share our backstory and the reasons we started Lettuce Wrap.</p>

<p>Learn how Christine’s candy selling leads to deboning a duck which leads to an epiphany. A multitude of kitchen jobs leads to a career in graphic design, and it all ends in a sandwich of chef-ery. </p>

<p>Meanwhile, Tammy turns up her nose at high tech to sniff out spices for a living, converts chicken into cuisine, and farmers markets become retail stores become online stores. </p>

<p>Our inaugural "quick fire round" puts Tammy into a spice quandary, and Christine picks a favorite truffle and meal. And we learn which of us is the true food adventurer.</p>

<h4>Links and Show Notes</h4>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://neococoastore.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">NeoCocoa</a></li>
<li><a href="http://spicehound.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">SpiceHound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://facebook.com/Kitchen519Belmont" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Kitchen 519</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.sjsu.edu/design/design_programs/graphic_design_program/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">San Jose State Graphic Design program</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.lacocinasf.org/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">La Cocina | San Francisco Incubator Kitchen</a></li>
<li><a href="https://www.lonelyplanet.com/malaysia" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysia</a>

<ul>
<li><a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipes/701/world-cuisine/asian/malaysian/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Malaysian recipes</a></li>
</ul></li>
<li><a href="https://www.chowhound.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chowhound</a></li>
<li><a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate_truffle" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Chocolate truffles</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688084643876" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Tellicherry Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/peppercorns-black?variant=9688330960932" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Lampong Black Peppercorn</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/himalayan-pink-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Himalayan Pink Salt</a></li>
<li><a href="https://spicehound.com/products/grey-sea-salt" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">French Grey Salt (Sel Gris)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.kikkoman.com/en/shokuiku/soysaucemuseum/making/index_en.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">Soy sauce</a></li>
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