• Stick a Fork in it, it's systemDONE
• Mozilla works on a browser
• FCC Bans all the routers
• And we check in on the Kagi things

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/XnvLKcV5ywk

0:00 Cold Open
1:58 More Like SystemDone
26:03 Splitting a Browser in Two
46:40 The FCC Bans Everything
1:10:32 Snaps Beat Bangs & Next Time
1:22:44 Stinger

In this episode we start off with the newest AgeGate update. This time, it's in systemd. Lots of folks have been activated about this one since it hits much closer to home, even in distros that weren't considering it prior, and why we think it's not a big deal, nor is that slope very slippery from here

Then, we find out that Mozilla has a browser, and they're putting a couple of interesting things in there! Namely split view and a VPN, but only the cool kids have the latter for now.

Next up is, in the US, the FCC has banned foreign consumer grade routers, which is basically all of them. What do a couple of Linux nerds suggest to try instead? LINUX OF COURSE!

We also spend more time in Kagiland and learn a couple of things.

Finally! A good episode!

Hope you enjoy

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• A fork of Systemd has emerged

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Firefox 149 is released

• Firefox 149 is out
  • Phoronix
  • OMG Ubuntu
  • Split View is in

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FCC Bans Routers... Like all of them.

• FCC Page
• FCC FAQ Page
• CNET
• BBC
• Engadget

Kagi Stuff

• Snap or Bang?
• Kagi translate is amazing

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• I am speed! Kachow
• How old are you?
• and the call is coming from inside the RAM

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/SP-gPAkrqHk

0:00 Cold Open
2:00 It's Not Just Bandwidth
23:47 Age Verification in Linux
43:22 A Terrible Time for Faulty RAM
56:06 Hearkening Back
+56:34 vimlena
+1:00:21 squidiebah
+1:03:18 Chris
+1:04:16 Alphacluster
+1:09:59 WhamGeek
1:12:44 Next Time
1:15:10 Stinger

In this episode we dive into the wonderful world of bandwidth since there's an open source alternative to Speedtest.net and Fast.com these days, and it's LibreSpeed.org. Take a peek, preferably after they update their expired certificate (they seriously did this to us after we speak so highly!) and get a slightly more honest look at your speeds! For bonus points, try a different country. We also dig into some of the technical bits behind those tests.

Also, when speaking about jitter, I should have said 'delta' or 'difference' rather than 'average'!

Then, more age verification. This time, though, Linux distributions are caught in the crossfire and some are exploring the ways to actually handle potential implementations. Nothing's too dire yet as most of these 'laws' are still bills, and that means they don't matter quite yet.

Also, we look into a post by Gabriele Svelto, a Firefox developer, to find out that not only is Firefox a little more reliable than you might think, bad RAM or other hardware bits might actually be the reason things are crashing, and not just Firefox!

Finally, some feedback, and we learn that our Mac User / Listener Venn diagram isn't just two separate circles.

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Check Your Speed 🏁

• librespeed

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Age Verification in Linux (and BSD)

• Proposed Colorado Legislation
• Proposed California Legislation
• System76 response
• Midnight BSD response
• FreeDesktop Merge Proposal punted to a portal implementation

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Memories Lost

• Firefox crash reports detect bit flips

Feedback

@vimlena from YouTube

• Waterfox works with Firefox sync

@squidiebah from YouTube

Been using firefox for years, this won't make me move and I've just disabled it(AI).

Chris from Fireside

I'm that guy. The macOS user that regularly listens to your show! So, the Venn diagram is not two separate circles. It's more like circles that touch at exactly one point without crossing. They form a tangent.

Alphacluster on Discord

• Also a Mac and Kagi user.
• Zen Browser
• Arc Browser
• Orion Browser

WhamGeek on Discord

Kagi has a pilot program to offer free search for public & academic libraries The application button does't work, but I reached out to them and they got back within the hour with the correct link.

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• No YOU'RE Not Optimized
• How do WE join the resistance?
• Firefox gets a killswitch
• And Discord kicks the can

The Video Version
https://youtu.be/oGVbHhCH9Lk

0:00 Cold Open
2:55 Searchin' with Kagi
27:13 Resistance Is Not Futile
49:09 The Firefox Kill Switch!
1:04:15 Discord Backtracks & Next Time
1:15:02 Stinger

We start off with a little on how our Kagi search project is going. And it'd be going a lot better if Leo could stop weighing the pros and cons of each search and their impact on the quota. Also, a little about Orion and why its tabbed layout is much better than the rest.

Then, F-Droid is back in the news with a new lament about the dwindling amount of time left before the September Sideload cutoff. Time to make a little more noise, it seems.

And finally, Firefox gets the long awaited Kill Switch, but was it actually backtracking? We make the case for why that might not have actually been the case, but welcome the toggle either way.

Oh, and in Next Time, we accidentally slip in a small segment about Discord and what backtracking actually looks like! More on that in a future episode as Discord is where we are a lot of the time.

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Kagi Checkin

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Follow up to the Google Developer Verification for Android

• F-Droid statement
• The Open Letter

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Kill all AI

• Firefox 148 introduces the AI kill switch
• OMG Ubuntu article

Discord Age Verification Delayed

Discord Age Verification Delayed

• AP News article
• BBC Article

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we plan to check in on Kagi and our KDE Linux journey.

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• Neocities went Bing Bang Boom
• Discord says open up and say ahhh
• KDE Linux snaps at snap

0:00 Cold Open
3:03 MySpace, Not Your Space
34:22 Discord Wants Your Face
54:43 Is KDE Linux Ready?
1:10:14 Next Time
1:13:36 Stinger

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Neocities was blocked by Bing

• Neocities Blog Post
• Ars Technica article

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Discord Age Verification is coming

• Discord Press Release
• Gaming on Linux post
• EFF post

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KDE Linux

• Nate Graham's blog post
• Phoronix article

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we plan to check in on Kagi and our KDE Linux journey.

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• The New XFWindow Lanager
• A New WebKid on the Block
• And a little food for the trolls

0:00 Cold Open
2:23 The XF Window Lanager
17:09 A New WebKid on the Block
41:13 Feeding the Trolls 😉
41:53 @queenkjuul
45:59 @KnoochyPoochy
48:24 @dluckie747
51:06 @schemage2210
1:00:54 @sinisterdesign
1:08:01 Next Time
1:11:21 Stinger

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https://youtu.be/WYdRc6G-100

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XFCE Plans for Wayland

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• 9to5 Linux article
• Smithay

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Browser Watch

• Orion Browser
• Kagi Search
• Just The Browser script
• Register article about Just The Browser
• Servo Browser

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Feedback

@queenkjuul (on the WinBoat segment)

• photoshop "runs" but recent versions (2022+) dont actually work

@KnoochyPoochy (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• Spoiler: Gentoo sucks.

@dluckie747 (On the Gentoo year checkin)

• can yall do an update to this?

@schemage2210 (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• Is a little skeptical about Mozilla changing their ways and about their focus on the browser.

@sinisterdesign (On the new Mozilla CEO segment)

• "Cautiously optimistic" is not the overwhelming majority attitude that you think it is.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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• sleepyeyesvince

A bit about how we've fared now that the 1.0 Cosmic Epoch is here, how things have changed, and what other goodies System76 has up their sleeve (it's a lot!). Then, we spend some time dissecting Mozilla's newest AI move. It turns out, if you dig deep enough, there's still hope, contrary to the wildly hot-take style news about things so far. And our final topic, Snapscope, a way to scan your Snaps for vulnerabilities, but then end up chatting way more about Snaps in general.

There's also a bit of SteamThing errata we need to cover before ending it all on a high note for the holidays.

Hope you enjoy and we'll see you soon. Happy holidays!

Coming up in this episode

• The stars have aligned for a release
• The top fox is on fire
• Set your scope on snap
• and a wee bit of feedback

0:00 Cold Open
3:44 Cosmic's Epic Epoch
33:52 New CEO, New Mozilla?
1:06:38 360 SnapScope
1:28:31 Errata + Next Time!
1:37:40 Stinger

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Cosmic and Pop!_OS have a release

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• 9to5 Linux article
• Carl's Ubuntu Summit presentation

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Mozilla's Next Chapter

• The new CEO's blog post
• Mozilla's SWOT
• Waterfox's reaction

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SnapScope

• Alan Pope's SnapScope
• OMG Ubuntu article
• Darren Horrocks' Snap Unsnapped post

Feedback

--verbose in Discord

• Desktop mode runs in X11. This GitHub issue proposes to change it

Gamma in Discord

• Gamer's Nexus revealed the Steam Machine will have SODIMMs

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

** We hope everyone enjoys the holiday season and we will see you in the new year.**

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• Wayland is inevitable...
• RAM is now Unobtanium
• and a Linux User Space OS?

Today in User Space, we RE-remind everyone that Wayland is certainly the only way forward for the big dogs. Gnome had adopted a Wayland-only stance quite a while ago, and now it looks like Plasma will be following suit. Then, we dive into the wonderful world of Everything terrible that AI is doing to us in the form of RAM price hikes (as much as 500%... so far). And finally, we hit up the feedback that's been piling up! There's a little more to get to eventually, but it'll all get there since we went a little long in this episode.

0:00 Cold Open
1:05 Wayland Is Inevitable...
26:53 RAM Is Now Unobtanium
49:54 The LUS Mailbag
50:19 Mailbag: Daniel
57:40 Mailbag: schemage2210
1:03:19 Mailbag: ewanmarshall
1:10:13 Mailbag: michaelchalmers
1:15:26 Next Time
1:23:08 Stinger

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Plasma is all in on Wayland

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• We shouted back in 2023 on Season 4 Episode 5
• The Steam Deck which runs on KDE Plasma has high sales numbers

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RAM prices are silly. It is all AI's fault.

• Micron, the manufacturer of Crucal memory, will stop selling RAM to consumers
• Leo spotted prices in the store and they were high.

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Feedback

Daniel via Fireside

• Daniel published an example using KDE environment

ewanmarshall at YouTube

• WinBoat gives a big warning about access to the filesystem.

schemage2210 at YouTube

• plocate is only great if you know the file name. 😉😂

michelchalmers at YouTube

• Two passwords are better than one on encrypted systems that have multiple users. No disagreement. While it is an extra step it can be solved when you add the second user.

🔭Next Time🔭

We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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• We got WinBoat Drama
• We got Kubuntu Drama
• and We got Flatpak Drama

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 FreeRDP Caught in the Crossfire
25:38 Maybe Announce Beforehand?
41:11 Fedora's Manifest Copy and Paste
1:00:20 Next Time (Three weeks!)
1:02:48 Stinger (This one's important)

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WinBoat/FreeRDP Drama

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• Reddit Thread
• Github Drama

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Kubuntu Website got a makeover

• Gaming on Linux noticed on Mastodon
• It was also spotted on Reddit here and here
• linuxiac article
• The official notice from the Ubuntu Discourse

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Flatpak Copy Pasta

• Fedora is called outon Mastodon for re-using Flatpak manifests
• The Fedora Discussion post

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We plan to cover your feedback, and some interesting topics. Stay Tuned, we intend to cover the history of YaST in a future episode.

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• All the distro news
• All the browser news
• And a Cosmic Recap

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Disro Watch!

Fedora 43 release

• Fedora 43 Release Announcement
• Fedora Immutables Also Release

Fedora develops a policy for AI assisted contributions

• Gaming On Linux Coverage
• Fedora Discussion Post
• Pagure Ticket

Xubuntu Website Hacked! (Now Fixed)

• OMG Ubuntu article
• Sean Davis replies on Mastodon

Ubuntu Unity Needs Help!

• Ubuntu Discourse Post

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• Firefox 144 is Released
• Firefox Lives Continues on Old Windows
• Servo Browsing Engine
• Chrome to Warn About HTTP sites
• Browser Prompt Injection (Perplexity Comet, OpenAI Atlas, Fellou)
  • From Brave
  • Bleeping Computer #1
  • Bleeping Computer #2

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Cosmic Recap

• LUS Live Stream Episode - The B-side
• COSMIC 1.0 has a Tentative Launch Date!

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The object of the game was to dive deep into Cosmic, the first "reference implementation" in our two desktop series (Cosmic and Plasma) and give you honest opinion, good and bad, as we experienced it on livestream... for two hours. Of course there are tangents, because, well, it's still us.

The desktop is quite amazing for something that's only (publicly) existed for a little over a year. We poke almost everything that comes with the default install of Pop_OS! 24.04. We'll poke the rest over the next few weeks.

We're interested to hear what you think, especially on the audio version. We tried to describe everything we saw as we went because obviously, you can't see, but surely there's room to improve. If you're curious, the video to go with all this is at:

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The audio comes from a few odd sources, so things might not sound normal. Still turned out quite well, overall, but at 1:45:20, we lose Dan's voice. I know, I know, we should have had a backup. We usually have three! But the on-the-flyness of the recording kept us from remembering to even bring in the backup-backup. Either way, sorry about that! It's just Leo at that point, so bear with.

We know it's not a normal episode, but we still hope you enjoy!

• Summaries will change the world
• It's the Last version of YaST
• F-Droid is Doomed

0:00 Cold Open
1:32 Summaries Will Change the World (Wide Web)
22:54 The Last Version of YaST!
41:54 F-Droid Is Doomed!
1:01:32 Feedback: Ant
1:05:09 Feedback: @Tacoghost
1:08:12 Feedback: @RafaelFarreiraPimenta
1:11:09 Feedback: @Fractal_32
1:16:54 Next Time on Linux User Space...
1:20:25 Stinger

The Video Version
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🔥Warm Up🔥

• AI search summaries aren't always great.
• MIT report: 95% of generative AI pilots at companies are failing

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Myrlyn will cast the spells now

• Myrlyn
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• Gone for Leap, still around for TW
• Agama is slated to be the new installer.
• Cockpit is proposed be the gui configuration tool.

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F-Droid is doomed

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• The Android Developers Decree

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Feedback

Ant via Fireside

• Ant is following along the Cosmic journey

@Tacoghost via Youtube

• Gentoo isn't that hard if you follow the directions.

@Fractal_32

LFS when?

@RafaelFerreirapimenta

Why Systemd with Gentoo? Because we could 😉. Collectively we did use multiple options.

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• We took a break over the break
• Windows 10 pulls a fast one
• Firefox brings in another clanker

0:00 Cold Open
2:27 A Distro, a Router and a Choice
25:26 Windows 10 Isn't Dead Yet...
43:45 Browser Watch (feat. Firefox)
1:09:58 Next Time!
1:14:57 Stinger

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🔥Warm Up🔥

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Windows 10 is going away... sort of

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• End of 10 Campaign
• Leo and Dan recommend Linux Mint and Ubuntu as great places to start. There are other suggestions though, what do you recommend?

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Mozilla Watch 👀

• Firefox 141 brings [tab grouping and lower memory usage in Linux](www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/141.0/releasenotes/)
• Firefox 142 brings pocket like article suggestions and long press previews
• Firefox 143 adds Copilot to the AI selection
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• Death, DEATH, everywhere
• Not so bloated, now, is it?
• and Someone Agrees with US!

0:00 Cold Open
1:35 Mozilla's Making Changes... Again
24:31 Disks Hate This One Weird Trick!
54:32 The Last of the Season 5 Feedback
-54:42 VesuLabs
-1:03:02 stephenreaves3205
1:12:16 Next Time & Farewell (For Now)
1:17:38 Stinger

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Mozilla Watch 👀

• Pocket and Fakespot are out.
• Readeck is a Pocket alternative Currently it is self-hosted but they are looking to add a hosted option.
• Karakeep is another alternative.
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The Season Conclusion of our Flatpak/Snap adventure

The numbers

MacOS    App
-----------------
666MB    Brave
451MB    Discord
651MB    Element
436MB    Firefox
873MB    GIMP
628MB    Inkscape
553MB    Kdenlive
451MB    OBS
303MB    Telegram

Windows  App
-----------------
873MB    Brave
468MB    Discord
1.05GB   Element
262MB    Firefox
963MB    GIMP
562MB    Inkscape
1.02GB   Kdenlive
394MB    OBS
215MB    Telegram

Ubuntu  Snap
-----------------
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/bare_5.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_509.snap
185M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/brave_511.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1908.snap
74M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core22_1963.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_888.snap
67M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/core24_988.snap
68M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/cups_1100.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/desktop-security-center_59.snap
111M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_239.snap
115M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/discord_240.snap
172M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/element-desktop_148.snap
62M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/ffmpeg-2404_59.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6159.snap
242M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firefox_6198.snap
12M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/firmware-updater_167.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_517.snap
264M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gimp_519.snap
517M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-42-2204_202.snap
405M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gnome-46-2404_90.snap
92M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/gtk-common-themes_1535.snap
339M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/inkscape_10823.snap
64M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_119.snap
319M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kdenlive_120.snap
1.4G    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/kf6-core24_27.snap
208M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/mesa-2404_495.snap
576M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/obs-studio_1302.snap
4.0K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/partial
15M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/prompting-client_104.snap
45M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_23771.snap
51M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd_24505.snap
568K    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snapd-desktop-integration_253.snap
11M     /var/lib/snapd/snaps/snap-store_1270.snap
446M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6597.snap
454M    /var/lib/snapd/snaps/telegram-desktop_6639.snap

Fedora   Flatpak
---------------
443 MB   Brave
278 MB   Discord
540 MB   OBS Studio
477 MB   Element
 17 MB   TAP-plugins
 19 MB   SWH
675 MB   Freedesktop Platform
538 MB   Mesa
538 MB   Mesa (Extra)
463 MB   Mesa
463 MB   Mesa (Extra)
 30 MB   FFmpeg extension with extra codecs
790 kB   openh264
789 kB   openh264
256 MB   GNU Image Manipulation Program
  8 MB   HEIC
  1 GB   GNOME Application Platform version 48
275 MB   Inkscape
 20 MB   Adwaita theme
926 MB   KDE Application Platform
  1 GB   KDE Application Platform
 25 MB   QGnomePlatform
  3 MB   QAdwaitaDecorations
241 MB   Kdenlive
282 MB   Firefox
256 MB   Telegram
124 MB   Telegram Desktop Webview Add-on

• 5.0GB MacOS
• 5.8GB Windows
• 6.6GB Flatpak
• 7.0GB Snap, ~6.0GB without old versions + compression

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Feedback

VesuLabs via email

• Thanks for the feedback on AI bug reporting and Rust in the kernel.

stephenreaves3205 via YouTube

if they spin off Chrome, would they also spin off ChromeOS? Or maybe just rebrand it?

• The roadmap for ChromeOS is to become Android

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• AI's Won't Take Over Yet
• Is Rust Open Source?
• and All Kinds of Feedback

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0:00 Cold Open
3:56 Curl's "AI Slop" Problem
25:12 A Little Viral Licensing
42:12 So Much Feedback ❤️
42:30 ukwan / Youtube
51:16 jliljj / Youtube
56:35 fredstech1 / Youtube
1:00:15 conan kudo / Youtube
1:02:06 amanita / Patreon
1:05:13 redvamp128 / Youtube
1:09:35 The Rules, Commands & Next Time
1:19:12 Stinger

The Curl project pushes back on AI slop

• The Ars Technica article
• The Curl project on Hacker One

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Is Rust opensource?

• Not all programming languages carry a license. Here is a Stackoverflow post about C language.
• Rust has a dual MIT and Apache. license
• Over the years many CVEs have been discovered for the Linux Kernel. Many of those involve memory corruption.

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Feedback

ukwan from YouTube

• Just kept running 18.04 to 2024. Just switched to ESM and kept going.

jliljj from YouTube

• I'd go for the upgrade, good way to stay current and learn.

FredsTech1 from YouTube

• Asked about unattended upgrades.
• Leo and Dan both use them. By default they just apply security updates but Dan turns them on for everything.
• The Ubuntu Docs

siljrath from YouTube

• I thought I signed up. Anyone know when thundermail happens?

Conan Kudo

• In my experience: people who are less familiar with system installations don't have problems with Anaconda's hub-and-spoke model.

Amanita from Patreon

• It is impossible to Backport everything. Using the latest software is best but using LTS or ESR solutions is also good.

redvamp128 from YouTube

• You guys should probably do an episode on the history of puppy Linux
• It has a good possibility for next season. Stay Tuned!

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Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey

Leo's list of software

• obs-studio
• discord
• telegram
• element
• kdenlive
• gimp
• inkscape
• firefox
• brave

Some commands to help check on sizes

• flatpak list --app --columns=size,name
• flatpaklist --column=size,name
• du -hs /var/lib/snapd/snaps/*

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• Extended service warranty for your Linux
• 10,000 Tabs Made Easy!
• A Chrome Firesale

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0:00 Cold Open
1:40 Extended Warranty for Ubuntu
17:36 Tab Groups and Unwanted Cookies
41:39 A Google Chrome Firesale!
58:33 The Science of Next Time
1:11:14 Stinger

Upgrade or ESM? Why not both?

• This blog post reminded Leo he needed to make a decision.
• Ubuntu Pro could let him kick the can a little.
• Upgrades generally go well unless you have a bunch of 3rd party repos.
• Always have a backup before any major changes.

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Browser Watch!

• Firefox brings tab groups to the browser
• How to get started with tab groups
• Brave browser adds Cookiecrumbler
• Brave adds native translation
• Chrome's Privacy Sandbox is dead

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Chrome breakup speculation

• OpenAI has expressed an interest in taking over
• Perplexity and Yahoo have too

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Quick look at our Snap and Flatpak journey

• Inital systems have been setup.
• Leo and Dan won't necessarily be installing the same software though some may overlap.
• We will be keeping tabs on the sizes of just the containerized applications.

🔭Next Time🔭

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• Vibe Coding Coming to a Plasma Near You
• We Need Another Standard
• The Newest of the New

0:00 Cold Open
2:01 Weird Vibes in Qt-Land
21:51 Rust Is Inevitable
41:04 Fedora, Ubuntu and a Journey
1:08:25 Next Time
1:10:24 Stinger

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What a Qt little AI?

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We need another standard

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Ubuntu 25.04 and Fedora 42 Releases

Ubuntu 25.04 and Official Flavors release

• Ubuntu Release Announcement
• Links to the Official Flavors release notes

Fedora 42 and Spins release

• Fedora 42 Release Announcement
• Fedora Downloads
• Atomic Desktops
• Spins

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• We flatten out the History
• And Package Up Our Experience

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Thundermail for Everyone!
23:21 The History of Flatpak

• 24:32 From Glick to Bundles
• 29:55 From Bundles to xdg-app
• 30:54 From Flatpak to the Future! 37:44 Are Flatpaks the Best Solution? 1:02:46 Next Time 1:05:14 Stinger

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Thundermail

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The history of flatpak packages

• Autopackage
• Listaller
• AppStream
• The roots
• Klik
• Rethinking the Linux distribution
• Flatpak 4 years in
• Goodbye xdg-app, hello Flatpak
• Initial Flatpak press release
• KDE's Discover found its support of Flatpak
• Firefox begins Flatpak builds
• OBS begins Flatpak builds too
• Thunderbird gets official support

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Extra Flatpak Resources

• https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/category/glick/
• https://dot.kde.org/2005/09/16/dont-install-just-copy-klik/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20071020104212/https://kdedevelopers.org/node/2920
• https://web.archive.org/web/20050125005333/http://klik.atekon.de/docs/
• https://web.archive.org/web/20101025040336/http://people.gnome.org:80/~alexl/glick/
• https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/page/12/
• https://github.com/alexlarsson/bundler

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0:00 Cold Open
1:07 Dash To Panel Needs Your Help!
27:21 Firefox's New Terms Of Use
51:33 Mark / Contact Button
1:00:34 Scott / Contact Button
1:03:22 Dan / Matrix
1:06:09 chraist / Matrix
1:08:07 bgt lover / Matrix
1:10:00 MarshMan / Discord
1:13:58 Next Time!
1:18:45 Stinger

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Feedback

Mark from Saigon

Mark advocates for trying Snaps but understands they are not for everyone. He then dragged us into a merchandise tangent. Stay tuned for more on that.

Scott via Fireside

Scott uses Snaps on his Debian server. On the desktop he mostly sticks to Appimages and Flatpaks.

Dan from Matrix

Dan seldom uses Snaps and has them near the bottom of his ranking. The last one he remembers using is the Nextcloud snap on an Ubuntu server.

chraist also on Matrix

chraist uses Void and doesn't have Systemd therefore doesn't use Snaps. He asked if we thought there would ever be a Snap solution without Systemd.

bgt from Matrix

bgt says "meh, snaps aren't really that worth it to be honest. If there was no flatpak, sure, but like this, there's no need."

Marshman from Discord

Marshman thinks Snaps are a handy delivery method for proprietary applications.

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• Syncing the Notes
• The History of Snaps
• And How Much We Absolutely Adore Them

0:00 Cold Open
1:34 Seeking Syncthing
16:42 The History of Snaps
33:52 How'd 9 Years of Snaps Go?
1:01:54 Next Time
1:04:49 Stinger

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• Ubuntu's convergence promise.
• Click apps
• Snappy Ubuntu
• Click apps and Snappy apps share update technology.
• Snappy Ubuntu Core was available
• Snapcraft was released as version 2.0.
• Snaps were now available to everyone.
• Mozilla chimed in with their support.
• Snap expanded its compatibility to the likes of Arch and Fedora.
• xdg-app rebrands as Flatpak as a Snap competitor.
• Unity 8 and Snaps were expected for 18.04
• The backporting of Snaps to 14.04 was a success.
• Fedora saw that promised Snap support land.
• Mark Shuttleworth made a game changing announcement.
• An effort to slim down the size of Gnome apps succeeded.
• The first Snap-installed-by-default shipped with Ubuntu MATE 17.10.
• The drumbeat of Snaps-installed-by-default got louder.
• Mozilla authors their own Snap package.
• Snap devs finally started their efforts to slim down the startup times.
• Canonical's announcement that Chromium would switch to a Snap.
• Linux Mint forges their own path. Additionally, they blocked the snapd backend.
• The dev team speeds startup times further.
• Snaps killed their 32-bit support.
• Mozilla Firefox would now also be snap-only.
• The introduction of modularity.
• More LZO compression
• Mozilla Firefox improves
• Ubuntu Flavors no longer seed the Flatpak backend
• More rumblings about the all snap Ubuntu.
• Those rumblings were squashed.
• Snap compatibility get stronger
• KDE Plasma desktop sees Snap support.
• more drivers are Snapped.
• Some exploits and maybe a few flaws.

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Extra Snap Resources

• Click Apps
• Snappy Ubuntu!
• Snappy security
• It's a Snap
• Ubuntu 15.10 might have a Snappy Personal spin?
• Shortly after, Mozilla said Firefox will support the Snap package format
• Debs aren't going anywhere...
• xdg-portal and snap collab?
• Snap store
• Another Chromium push
• LZO compression time and
• Snapcraft changes
• April - Ubuntu Won't Support Flatpak
• Mozilla's snap pushes back 22.04.1
• Firefox Snap Performance part 1
• Firefox Snap Performance part 2
• 50% reduction in start time for Firefox Snap
• Flapak is out, Snap is still in
• An immutable Snap desktop? and also
• Malicious Snap Apps
• Thunderbird
• Another Exploit
• And another?
• Better Cross Distro Support

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