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    <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:45:07 -0500</pubDate>
    <description>We all would like to think that we're immune to being persuaded, but were that true, advertising wouldn't work, the best candidates would always get elected, and our personal relationships would always be equitable.
On Belief examines why, with so much information available to us to dissuade us from joining harmful groups. I ask people who have had first hand experience with harmful groups and sects how they were seduced, how they were tricked, and how they got out. 
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    <copyright>© 2025 Karen Geier</copyright>
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    <itunes:subtitle>On Belief is about why none of us are immune from coercive thought reform</itunes:subtitle>
    <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
    <itunes:summary>We all would like to think that we're immune to being persuaded, but were that true, advertising wouldn't work, the best candidates would always get elected, and our personal relationships would always be equitable.
On Belief examines why, with so much information available to us to dissuade us from joining harmful groups. I ask people who have had first hand experience with harmful groups and sects how they were seduced, how they were tricked, and how they got out. 
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      <itunes:name>Karen Geier</itunes:name>
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    <podcast:locked email="info@onbelief.com">yes</podcast:locked>
    <podcast:funding url="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support the show!</podcast:funding>
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      <title>Episode 112: MLMs with Sasha Zazzi &amp; Katie Young, Rachel Lloyd, and Fallon Morey</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 23 Jul 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:episode>112</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>MLMs with Sasha Zazzi &amp; Katie Young, Rachel Lloyd, and Fallon Morey</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>"Hey Hun, are you interested in a business opportunity?"
If you've ever had a random message from an old friend on Facebook, this episode is for you.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:45</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Multi Level Marketing might seem like a harmless hobby for stay at home moms, but make no mistake: they can ruin lives. 
Learn how MLMs are like cults:
They profile people in hard spots in their lives
They promise an instant family
They control many aspects of your life
They will shun you if you question the leaders
And more... Special Guests: Fallon Morey, Katie Young, Rachel Lloyd, and Sasha Zazzi.
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        <![CDATA[<p>Multi Level Marketing might seem like a harmless hobby for stay at home moms, but make no mistake: they can ruin lives. </p>

<p>Learn how MLMs are like cults:</p>

<ul>
<li>They profile people in hard spots in their lives</li>
<li>They promise an instant family</li>
<li>They control many aspects of your life</li>
<li>They will shun you if you question the leaders</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Fallon Morey, Katie Young, Rachel Lloyd, and Sasha Zazzi.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Multi Level Marketing might seem like a harmless hobby for stay at home moms, but make no mistake: they can ruin lives. </p>

<p>Learn how MLMs are like cults:</p>

<ul>
<li>They profile people in hard spots in their lives</li>
<li>They promise an instant family</li>
<li>They control many aspects of your life</li>
<li>They will shun you if you question the leaders</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Fallon Morey, Katie Young, Rachel Lloyd, and Sasha Zazzi.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Fallon Morey</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Katie Young</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Rachel Lloyd</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Sasha Zazzi</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 318: Neurodiversity and Cults</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>318</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Neurodiversity and Cults</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest Priscilla Eyles, a neurodiversity advocate and cult survivor joins me to discuss her experiences with two high demand groups and why neurodivergent people might be at greater risk for cult recruitment</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:02:41</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
Why she found herself in a high demand group
How she felt targeted racially and because she was neurodivergent
How decision making played into why she stayed
What it was like to go from one group to another
And more...
Priscilla's website: https://whova.com/web/icsaa_202207/
The ICSA website: https://www.icsahome.com/ 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why she found herself in a high demand group</li>
<li>How she felt targeted racially and because she was neurodivergent</li>
<li>How decision making played into why she stayed</li>
<li>What it was like to go from one group to another</li>
<li>And more...</li>
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<p>Priscilla&#39;s website: <a href="https://whova.com/web/icsaa_202207/" rel="nofollow">https://whova.com/web/icsaa_202207/</a></p>

<p>The ICSA website: <a href="https://www.icsahome.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.icsahome.com/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why she found herself in a high demand group</li>
<li>How she felt targeted racially and because she was neurodivergent</li>
<li>How decision making played into why she stayed</li>
<li>What it was like to go from one group to another</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Priscilla&#39;s website: <a href="https://whova.com/web/icsaa_202207/" rel="nofollow">https://whova.com/web/icsaa_202207/</a></p>

<p>The ICSA website: <a href="https://www.icsahome.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.icsahome.com/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 317: Unification Church</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2021 18:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>317</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Unification Church</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to describe their childhood and growing up a "Moonie"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:39</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
* The basic beliefs of the Unification Church
* What it's like for kids
* What are the rules, and are they different by gender?
* What is the companion book to the Bible that the Unification Church uses?
* What are the political beliefs of the church?
* And more... 
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The basic beliefs of the Unification Church</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like for kids</li>
<li>What are the rules, and are they different by gender?</li>
<li>What is the companion book to the Bible that the Unification Church uses?</li>
<li>What are the political beliefs of the church?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The basic beliefs of the Unification Church</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like for kids</li>
<li>What are the rules, and are they different by gender?</li>
<li>What is the companion book to the Bible that the Unification Church uses?</li>
<li>What are the political beliefs of the church?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 316: Cult City Tours</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2021 18:15:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>316</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Cult City Tours</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Ted "the Tour Guide" Reinhard joins me to discuss living in Clearwater, Florida, home to the Church of Scientology, and his tour company, which takes participants on a tour of the Scientology buildings of Clearwater.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>18:33</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
How much real estate the church owns in Clearwater
What the Scientologists do there
What happens when David Miscavige comes to town
The influence the church has over local politics
What happens when they get heckled
And more... 
</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How much real estate the church owns in Clearwater</li>
<li>What the Scientologists do there</li>
<li>What happens when David Miscavige comes to town</li>
<li>The influence the church has over local politics</li>
<li>What happens when they get heckled</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How much real estate the church owns in Clearwater</li>
<li>What the Scientologists do there</li>
<li>What happens when David Miscavige comes to town</li>
<li>The influence the church has over local politics</li>
<li>What happens when they get heckled</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 315: Matthew Remski</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2021 17:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>315</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Matthew Remski</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, I discuss radicalization, cult hopping, de-radicalization and more with Matthew Remski.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:17</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Matthew shares his wealth of knowledge in this week's episode and we discuss what the heck "Conspirituality" is.
Find Matthew's podcast here: https://conspirituality.net/
And Matthew's website here:  http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/ 
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        <![CDATA[<p>Matthew shares his wealth of knowledge in this week&#39;s episode and we discuss what the heck &quot;Conspirituality&quot; is.</p>

<p>Find Matthew&#39;s podcast here: <a href="https://conspirituality.net/" rel="nofollow">https://conspirituality.net/</a></p>

<p>And Matthew&#39;s website here:  <a href="http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Matthew shares his wealth of knowledge in this week&#39;s episode and we discuss what the heck &quot;Conspirituality&quot; is.</p>

<p>Find Matthew&#39;s podcast here: <a href="https://conspirituality.net/" rel="nofollow">https://conspirituality.net/</a></p>

<p>And Matthew&#39;s website here:  <a href="http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/" rel="nofollow">http://matthewremski.com/wordpress/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 314: Janja Lalich</title>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>314</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Janja Lalich</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Janja Lalich, Cult Researcher and frequent Cult Expert for Documentaries joins me to discuss her career and what we really know about how Cults work.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>14:13</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 313: Bikram Yoga</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/313</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2021 18:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>313</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Bikram Yoga</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to discuss her time at a 2 month intensive yoga training and what she witnessed there.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>14:44</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/a/aecb8e3e-2429-444f-a9fb-2c08a989b893/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
* What drew her to yoga
* What it costs to do the 2 month intensive
* What happens at the 2 month intensive
* Why vegans began to eat burgers
* Why white instructors spoke in put-on "Indian" accents
* And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What drew her to yoga</li>
<li>What it costs to do the 2 month intensive</li>
<li>What happens at the 2 month intensive</li>
<li>Why vegans began to eat burgers</li>
<li>Why white instructors spoke in put-on &quot;Indian&quot; accents</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What drew her to yoga</li>
<li>What it costs to do the 2 month intensive</li>
<li>What happens at the 2 month intensive</li>
<li>Why vegans began to eat burgers</li>
<li>Why white instructors spoke in put-on &quot;Indian&quot; accents</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+kVCvkdTd</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 312: The Salvation Army</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/312</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/32345268-2502-4650-801c-08ec3ca66a9f.mp3" length="23794542" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>312</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Salvation Army</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to share her experience growing up in the ubiquitous yet mysterious organization.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:31</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/3/32345268-2502-4650-801c-08ec3ca66a9f/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
What are the core beliefs of the Salvation Army?
Is it really organized like a Military?
What are services like for kids?
What is the leadership path like?
What kinds of ceremonies are there?
Where does the Bell Ringer money go?
What's the Salvation Army stance on the LGBTQ+ community?
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What are the core beliefs of the Salvation Army?</li>
<li>Is it really organized like a Military?</li>
<li>What are services like for kids?</li>
<li>What is the leadership path like?</li>
<li>What kinds of ceremonies are there?</li>
<li>Where does the Bell Ringer money go?</li>
<li>What&#39;s the Salvation Army stance on the LGBTQ+ community?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What are the core beliefs of the Salvation Army?</li>
<li>Is it really organized like a Military?</li>
<li>What are services like for kids?</li>
<li>What is the leadership path like?</li>
<li>What kinds of ceremonies are there?</li>
<li>Where does the Bell Ringer money go?</li>
<li>What&#39;s the Salvation Army stance on the LGBTQ+ community?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+GpK5HrYH</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+GpK5HrYH" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Episode 311: Growing up LDS</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/311</link>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/217b89db-6607-44d3-9f4f-691e42314090.mp3" length="27111675" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>311</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Growing up LDS</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode my guest describes what it's like to grow up Mormon when you're different</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>18:49</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/2/217b89db-6607-44d3-9f4f-691e42314090/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
What kinds of demands are put on children in the church from an early age
How activities were sex segregated
What rules her parents followed
What happens to children of divorce in the LDS church
What it's like to go to BYU
What it's like to question at BYU
All about the honor code
And more...
For more about The Modesty Talks, visit: https://themodestytalks.com/ 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What kinds of demands are put on children in the church from an early age</li>
<li>How activities were sex segregated</li>
<li>What rules her parents followed</li>
<li>What happens to children of divorce in the LDS church</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to go to BYU</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to question at BYU</li>
<li>All about the honor code</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>For more about The Modesty Talks, visit: <a href="https://themodestytalks.com/" rel="nofollow">https://themodestytalks.com/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What kinds of demands are put on children in the church from an early age</li>
<li>How activities were sex segregated</li>
<li>What rules her parents followed</li>
<li>What happens to children of divorce in the LDS church</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to go to BYU</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to question at BYU</li>
<li>All about the honor code</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>For more about The Modesty Talks, visit: <a href="https://themodestytalks.com/" rel="nofollow">https://themodestytalks.com/</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+rzAl46N6</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+rzAl46N6" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 310: Jehovahs Witnesses and Growing Up</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/310</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 13:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/1b842d39-4b02-4fda-9ac8-b8a351684e4e.mp3" length="25613919" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>310</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Jehovahs Witnesses and Growing Up</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>What happens when you're born into a high control group that targeted your mom when she was pregnant with you? My guest discusses growing up Jehovah's Witness this week in a supersized episode</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:47</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/1b842d39-4b02-4fda-9ac8-b8a351684e4e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>My guest joins me to discuss:
Being born into the Witnesses
What Jehovah's Witnesses believe about parenting
What her mother believed about parenting
What an average week looks like for a Jehovah's Witness kid
What happens when your mom is disfellowshipped
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>My guest joins me to discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Being born into the Witnesses</li>
<li>What Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses believe about parenting</li>
<li>What her mother believed about parenting</li>
<li>What an average week looks like for a Jehovah&#39;s Witness kid</li>
<li>What happens when your mom is disfellowshipped</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>My guest joins me to discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Being born into the Witnesses</li>
<li>What Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses believe about parenting</li>
<li>What her mother believed about parenting</li>
<li>What an average week looks like for a Jehovah&#39;s Witness kid</li>
<li>What happens when your mom is disfellowshipped</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+7-R2bO8Q</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+7-R2bO8Q" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 309: Church of Christ</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/309</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 11:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/04960e9e-651b-4709-872d-9315f95f8772.mp3" length="24900462" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>309</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Church of Christ</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to discuss how going to a school affiliated with the Church of Christ changed her in ways that still affect her today.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:17</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/0/04960e9e-651b-4709-872d-9315f95f8772/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
How the Church of Christ differs from 'mainstream' Christianity
How her parents, wanting her to have some religious education, inadvertently changed her trajectory in life
What the main teachings of the church are
What happens when you have a chastity doctrine at a highschool with boarders
What the church camp experience is life
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How the Church of Christ differs from &#39;mainstream&#39; Christianity</li>
<li>How her parents, wanting her to have <em>some</em> religious education, inadvertently changed her trajectory in life</li>
<li>What the main teachings of the church are</li>
<li>What happens when you have a chastity doctrine at a highschool with boarders</li>
<li>What the church camp experience is life</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How the Church of Christ differs from &#39;mainstream&#39; Christianity</li>
<li>How her parents, wanting her to have <em>some</em> religious education, inadvertently changed her trajectory in life</li>
<li>What the main teachings of the church are</li>
<li>What happens when you have a chastity doctrine at a highschool with boarders</li>
<li>What the church camp experience is life</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+sZQHy6CM</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+sZQHy6CM" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 308: Conspiracy Theories</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/308</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/203a55c2-b2f4-46de-8489-8c7d75a15984.mp3" length="25363770" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>308</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Conspiracy Theories</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Will Sommer (Right Richter &amp; The Daily Beast) joins me to discuss the similarities between cult belief and belief in major conspiracy theories like Pizzagate and QAnon</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:36</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/2/203a55c2-b2f4-46de-8489-8c7d75a15984/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Subscribe to Right Richter here: https://tinyletter.com/rightrichter
Read Will on The Daily Beast: https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/will-sommer
Will Sommer has been covering conspiracy theories since the inception of Pizzagate. He joins me to discuss what drives people to believe seemingly incomprehensible conspiracy theories.
In this episode, we discuss:
What is the genesis of Pizzagate?
Why did people believe and amplify Pizzagate?
Why didn't Pizzagate end when Comet Pizza was shot up?
What is QAnon?
How do people get progressively deeper into QAnon?
What are the societal impacts of collective belief in conspiracy theories?
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Subscribe to Right Richter here: <a href="https://tinyletter.com/rightrichter" rel="nofollow">https://tinyletter.com/rightrichter</a><br>
Read Will on The Daily Beast: <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/will-sommer" rel="nofollow">https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/will-sommer</a></p>

<p>Will Sommer has been covering conspiracy theories since the inception of Pizzagate. He joins me to discuss what drives people to believe seemingly incomprehensible conspiracy theories.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is the genesis of Pizzagate?</li>
<li>Why did people believe and amplify Pizzagate?</li>
<li>Why didn&#39;t Pizzagate end when Comet Pizza was shot up?</li>
<li>What is QAnon?</li>
<li>How do people get progressively deeper into QAnon?</li>
<li>What are the societal impacts of collective belief in conspiracy theories?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Subscribe to Right Richter here: <a href="https://tinyletter.com/rightrichter" rel="nofollow">https://tinyletter.com/rightrichter</a><br>
Read Will on The Daily Beast: <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/will-sommer" rel="nofollow">https://www.thedailybeast.com/author/will-sommer</a></p>

<p>Will Sommer has been covering conspiracy theories since the inception of Pizzagate. He joins me to discuss what drives people to believe seemingly incomprehensible conspiracy theories.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is the genesis of Pizzagate?</li>
<li>Why did people believe and amplify Pizzagate?</li>
<li>Why didn&#39;t Pizzagate end when Comet Pizza was shot up?</li>
<li>What is QAnon?</li>
<li>How do people get progressively deeper into QAnon?</li>
<li>What are the societal impacts of collective belief in conspiracy theories?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+0rsUe3BY</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+0rsUe3BY" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Episode 307: The Human Potential Movement</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/307</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/119d795c-7e07-4670-bfc8-35c12daec0e1.mp3" length="25506712" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>307</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Human Potential Movement</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest Tobi Olowe joins me again to discuss the primordial soup of most cults we know today: The Human Potential Movement.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:42</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/119d795c-7e07-4670-bfc8-35c12daec0e1/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode we discuss:
What was Esalen?
How did the Human Potential Movement begin?
What made the Human Potential Movement so appealing?
Which groups sprung out of that movement?
Which forms of untested therapy became popular from the movement?
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What was Esalen?</li>
<li>How did the Human Potential Movement begin?</li>
<li>What made the Human Potential Movement so appealing?</li>
<li>Which groups sprung out of that movement?</li>
<li>Which forms of untested therapy became popular from the movement?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What was Esalen?</li>
<li>How did the Human Potential Movement begin?</li>
<li>What made the Human Potential Movement so appealing?</li>
<li>Which groups sprung out of that movement?</li>
<li>Which forms of untested therapy became popular from the movement?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+YEv_etiJ</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+YEv_etiJ" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
    </item>
    <item>
      <title>Episode 306: Gender Critical Movement</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/306</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>306</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Gender Critical Movement</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to describe how dealing with their own gender journey led them into the world of the Gender Critical movement online</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:13</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/121250a8-d305-4e25-94ca-a6dc8f539d56/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
What is the Gender Critical movement?
What are the fundamental beliefs vs what they claim the beliefs are?
Where did my guest find out about Gender Criticism?
Are most of the leaders of the Gender Critical movement trans?
Who are the celebrities who are involved in this movement?
Why the 'science' Gender Critical people cite is erroneous
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is the Gender Critical movement?</li>
<li>What are the fundamental beliefs vs what they claim the beliefs are?</li>
<li>Where did my guest find out about Gender Criticism?</li>
<li>Are most of the leaders of the Gender Critical movement trans?</li>
<li>Who are the celebrities who are involved in this movement?</li>
<li>Why the &#39;science&#39; Gender Critical people cite is erroneous</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is the Gender Critical movement?</li>
<li>What are the fundamental beliefs vs what they claim the beliefs are?</li>
<li>Where did my guest find out about Gender Criticism?</li>
<li>Are most of the leaders of the Gender Critical movement trans?</li>
<li>Who are the celebrities who are involved in this movement?</li>
<li>Why the &#39;science&#39; Gender Critical people cite is erroneous</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+9YpyKQSO</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 305: Men's Rights Activists</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/305</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2020 19:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/c1ebfb90-d7c7-4e99-a229-f1eb7ae87efd.mp3" length="24258477" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>305</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Men's Rights Activists</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest joins me to discuss his time in Men's Rights Activism, and how the love of a TV show is what started them down the rabbit hole.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:50</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/c/c1ebfb90-d7c7-4e99-a229-f1eb7ae87efd/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
How someone finds MRAs online
Where the most active members hang out
What kind of moderation MRA forums have 
Can you see people being radicalized in real time?
What drove my guest deeper
What family members and women told my guest when they were involved
When they started to question their views
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How someone finds MRAs online</li>
<li>Where the most active members hang out</li>
<li>What kind of moderation MRA forums have </li>
<li>Can you see people being radicalized in real time?</li>
<li>What drove my guest deeper</li>
<li>What family members and women told my guest when they were involved</li>
<li>When they started to question their views</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How someone finds MRAs online</li>
<li>Where the most active members hang out</li>
<li>What kind of moderation MRA forums have </li>
<li>Can you see people being radicalized in real time?</li>
<li>What drove my guest deeper</li>
<li>What family members and women told my guest when they were involved</li>
<li>When they started to question their views</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+MTfkXrFu</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+MTfkXrFu" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 304: Independent Fundamental Baptists</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/304</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2020 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/e8c476e5-5a94-4c65-812f-2a3ac9a8a6a1.mp3" length="24615205" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>304</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Independent Fundamental Baptists</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest Tony joins me to discuss the troubling details of being born into an Evangelical Christian tradition</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:05</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/e8c476e5-5a94-4c65-812f-2a3ac9a8a6a1/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>On this episode, we discuss:
What it's like growing up with a fire and brimstone church at the center of your life
What kinds of topics were taught in Sunday school
Evangelical home schooling
What a child understands about a sermon on homosexuality
What Bible camp is like
Why Bible College doesn't always make pastors
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>On this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it&#39;s like growing up with a fire and brimstone church at the center of your life</li>
<li>What kinds of topics were taught in Sunday school</li>
<li>Evangelical home schooling</li>
<li>What a child understands about a sermon on homosexuality</li>
<li>What Bible camp is like</li>
<li>Why Bible College doesn&#39;t always make pastors</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>On this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it&#39;s like growing up with a fire and brimstone church at the center of your life</li>
<li>What kinds of topics were taught in Sunday school</li>
<li>Evangelical home schooling</li>
<li>What a child understands about a sermon on homosexuality</li>
<li>What Bible camp is like</li>
<li>Why Bible College doesn&#39;t always make pastors</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+fQEWmMy6</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 303: Zendik Farm</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/303</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2020 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/7ee56876-9a02-43ac-9608-de80f9f1e6cc.mp3" length="24222742" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>303</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Zendik Farm</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Helen Zuman, author of Mating in Captivity (https://helenzuman.com/books/mating-in-captivity-a-memoir/) joins me to discuss her time in the Zendik Farm Intentional Community</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:49</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/7/7ee56876-9a02-43ac-9608-de80f9f1e6cc/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode we discuss:
What is an intentional community?
What made Helen decide to join Zendik?
What was it like moving in?
What are the major beliefs of the group?
What was the Zendik approach to sex and dating?
How did the Farm make money?
What was the group's approach to working through trauma?
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is an intentional community?</li>
<li>What made Helen decide to join Zendik?</li>
<li>What was it like moving in?</li>
<li>What are the major beliefs of the group?</li>
<li>What was the Zendik approach to sex and dating?</li>
<li>How did the Farm make money?</li>
<li>What was the group&#39;s approach to working through trauma?</li>
</ul>

<p>And more...</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is an intentional community?</li>
<li>What made Helen decide to join Zendik?</li>
<li>What was it like moving in?</li>
<li>What are the major beliefs of the group?</li>
<li>What was the Zendik approach to sex and dating?</li>
<li>How did the Farm make money?</li>
<li>What was the group&#39;s approach to working through trauma?</li>
</ul>

<p>And more...</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+DdeTO7xi</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 302: The Inner Matrix</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/302</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2020 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/ed351fc3-b9e5-475c-88dd-e6c5c2b623a5.mp3" length="25542448" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>302</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Inner Matrix</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>There are millions of self help books out there, but what happens when a self help book causes you to give up your life and go work for its author?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:44</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/ed351fc3-b9e5-475c-88dd-e6c5c2b623a5/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Guest Katie Mount joins me to discuss her time both studying The Inner Matrix and joining the company, working for its founder.
In this episode, we discuss:
    What brought her to study The Inner Matrix
    What you study in their courses
    Why she decided to join the organization
    What she gave up to work for Joey Klein
    Whether the office lived by the principles it espoused
    Why some women in the office were treated differently than others
    How she connected with other defectors on the other side
And more. 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Guest Katie Mount joins me to discuss her time both studying The Inner Matrix and joining the company, working for its founder.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    What brought her to study The Inner Matrix</li>
<li>    What you study in their courses</li>
<li>    Why she decided to join the organization</li>
<li>    What she gave up to work for Joey Klein</li>
<li>    Whether the office lived by the principles it espoused</li>
<li>    Why some women in the office were treated differently than others</li>
<li>    How she connected with other defectors on the other side</li>
</ul>

<p>And more.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Guest Katie Mount joins me to discuss her time both studying The Inner Matrix and joining the company, working for its founder.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    What brought her to study The Inner Matrix</li>
<li>    What you study in their courses</li>
<li>    Why she decided to join the organization</li>
<li>    What she gave up to work for Joey Klein</li>
<li>    Whether the office lived by the principles it espoused</li>
<li>    Why some women in the office were treated differently than others</li>
<li>    How she connected with other defectors on the other side</li>
</ul>

<p>And more.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+Zrnn9KYH</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 301: 60s Political Cults</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/301</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2020 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/f4704a3c-d554-4017-bb3e-23c9ef98e0a6.mp3" length="27895976" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>301</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>60s Political Cults</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Guest Tobi Olowe of the Impressions of America Podcast (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/impressionsofamerica/id1367243636) joins me to discuss political cults of the 1960s and the long shadow they have cast.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>19:22</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/f/f4704a3c-d554-4017-bb3e-23c9ef98e0a6/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we explore 3 political cults: The Weather Underground, Ayn Rand's Determinists and The JOhn Birch Society 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore 3 political cults: The Weather Underground, Ayn Rand&#39;s Determinists and The JOhn Birch Society</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore 3 political cults: The Weather Underground, Ayn Rand&#39;s Determinists and The JOhn Birch Society</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+rsA18hSp</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+rsA18hSp" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 228: Conversion Therapy</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/228</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/31f39722-cafe-4e1a-9fae-daf52316cf53.mp3" length="22938771" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>228</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Conversion Therapy</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Matt Ashcroft joins me to discuss his experience with Conversion Therapy and why he became an activist to speak out against it.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:55</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/3/31f39722-cafe-4e1a-9fae-daf52316cf53/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
How Matt got involved in a Facebook group that 'supported' men who wanted to overcome Same Sex Attraction
How groups recruit vulnerable men to join bootcamps
What happens at  bootcamps that promise to help you 'pray the gay away'
What kinds of activities and 'therapy' happen at Conversion Therapy bootcamp
Why he sat in a room staring at a candle
Whether Conversion Therapy works
What the risks of Conversion Therapy are
And more...
Matt's Article: https://www.dailyxtra.com/lgbtq2-conversion-therapy-168786
Matt's Social Media: https://www.facebook.com/mattash89
https://twitter.com/mattash89 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Matt got involved in a Facebook group that &#39;supported&#39; men who wanted to overcome Same Sex Attraction</li>
<li>How groups recruit vulnerable men to join bootcamps</li>
<li>What happens at  bootcamps that promise to help you &#39;pray the gay away&#39;</li>
<li>What kinds of activities and &#39;therapy&#39; happen at Conversion Therapy bootcamp</li>
<li>Why he sat in a room staring at a candle</li>
<li>Whether Conversion Therapy works</li>
<li>What the risks of Conversion Therapy are</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Matt&#39;s Article: <a href="https://www.dailyxtra.com/lgbtq2-conversion-therapy-168786" rel="nofollow">https://www.dailyxtra.com/lgbtq2-conversion-therapy-168786</a></p>

<p>Matt&#39;s Social Media: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mattash89" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/mattash89</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/mattash89" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/mattash89</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Matt got involved in a Facebook group that &#39;supported&#39; men who wanted to overcome Same Sex Attraction</li>
<li>How groups recruit vulnerable men to join bootcamps</li>
<li>What happens at  bootcamps that promise to help you &#39;pray the gay away&#39;</li>
<li>What kinds of activities and &#39;therapy&#39; happen at Conversion Therapy bootcamp</li>
<li>Why he sat in a room staring at a candle</li>
<li>Whether Conversion Therapy works</li>
<li>What the risks of Conversion Therapy are</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Matt&#39;s Article: <a href="https://www.dailyxtra.com/lgbtq2-conversion-therapy-168786" rel="nofollow">https://www.dailyxtra.com/lgbtq2-conversion-therapy-168786</a></p>

<p>Matt&#39;s Social Media: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/mattash89" rel="nofollow">https://www.facebook.com/mattash89</a><br>
<a href="https://twitter.com/mattash89" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/mattash89</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 227: The Troubled Teen Industry</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/227</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2020 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/980be356-39e8-45c4-8693-6e269fa1db97.mp3" length="24721785" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>227</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Troubled Teen Industry</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Meredith Yanuzzi and Miranda Sullivan from Troubled Podcast join me to discuss why sending your children to "Boot Camp" or "Reform School" is a terrible idea. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:09</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
What kinds of kids get sent to these institutions
What kinds of rules are there at these places
What kinds of punishments happen
How everyone is turned into a snitch
What kinds of regulations govern these places
What recourse kids have if sent there
And much more
Links from this episode:
Troubled Podcast (https://open.spotify.com/show/2FUqbPy2iHM5zMcZllJKMN)
Troubled podcast on social media: @talktroubled
2007 Congressional Hearing on Child Neglect &amp; Abuse in Residential Homes
 (https://youtu.be/hgJPmBYctRI)
2008 Congressional Hearing on Child Abuse &amp; Deceptive Marketing by Residential Programs for Teens  (incl GAO findings from the investigation prompted by the 2007 Hearing
 (https://youtu.be/fRWEh-qIiUM)
Aaron Bacon Short Film (his parents testified in Congressional Hearings)
 (https://youtu.be/rJz5pghLagY)
The Last Stop Documentary (film here) 
 (https://thelaststopfilm.com/)
Last Stop (trailer)
 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93JfLTpAM0)
Fix My Kid Documentary  (film)
 (http://www.fixmykidthemovie.com/)
Fix My Kid  (trailer) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3R4CpyP5CA&amp;t=106s)
ABC Special "A Boy Named Lucas" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bwpsoFH-8c&amp;t=44s) 
</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What kinds of kids get sent to these institutions</li>
<li>What kinds of rules are there at these places</li>
<li>What kinds of punishments happen</li>
<li>How everyone is turned into a snitch</li>
<li>What kinds of regulations govern these places</li>
<li>What recourse kids have if sent there</li>
<li>And much more</li>
</ul>

<p>Links from this episode:</p>

<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2FUqbPy2iHM5zMcZllJKMN" rel="nofollow">Troubled Podcast</a></p>

<p>Troubled podcast on social media: @talktroubled</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/hgJPmBYctRI" rel="nofollow">2007 Congressional Hearing on Child Neglect &amp; Abuse in Residential Homes<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/fRWEh-qIiUM" rel="nofollow">2008 Congressional Hearing on Child Abuse &amp; Deceptive Marketing by Residential Programs for Teens  (incl GAO findings from the investigation prompted by the 2007 Hearing<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/rJz5pghLagY" rel="nofollow">Aaron Bacon Short Film (his parents testified in Congressional Hearings)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://thelaststopfilm.com/" rel="nofollow">The Last Stop Documentary (film here) <br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93JfLTpAM0" rel="nofollow">Last Stop (trailer)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.fixmykidthemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Fix My Kid Documentary  (film)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3R4CpyP5CA&t=106s" rel="nofollow">Fix My Kid  (trailer)</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bwpsoFH-8c&t=44s" rel="nofollow">ABC Special &quot;A Boy Named Lucas&quot;</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What kinds of kids get sent to these institutions</li>
<li>What kinds of rules are there at these places</li>
<li>What kinds of punishments happen</li>
<li>How everyone is turned into a snitch</li>
<li>What kinds of regulations govern these places</li>
<li>What recourse kids have if sent there</li>
<li>And much more</li>
</ul>

<p>Links from this episode:</p>

<p><a href="https://open.spotify.com/show/2FUqbPy2iHM5zMcZllJKMN" rel="nofollow">Troubled Podcast</a></p>

<p>Troubled podcast on social media: @talktroubled</p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/hgJPmBYctRI" rel="nofollow">2007 Congressional Hearing on Child Neglect &amp; Abuse in Residential Homes<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/fRWEh-qIiUM" rel="nofollow">2008 Congressional Hearing on Child Abuse &amp; Deceptive Marketing by Residential Programs for Teens  (incl GAO findings from the investigation prompted by the 2007 Hearing<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://youtu.be/rJz5pghLagY" rel="nofollow">Aaron Bacon Short Film (his parents testified in Congressional Hearings)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://thelaststopfilm.com/" rel="nofollow">The Last Stop Documentary (film here) <br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W93JfLTpAM0" rel="nofollow">Last Stop (trailer)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.fixmykidthemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Fix My Kid Documentary  (film)<br>
</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3R4CpyP5CA&t=106s" rel="nofollow">Fix My Kid  (trailer)</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bwpsoFH-8c&t=44s" rel="nofollow">ABC Special &quot;A Boy Named Lucas&quot;</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 226: Robert Kelly</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/226</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2020 18:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/8dd74d13-4079-48b9-abe6-e00bc734b4cf.mp3" length="22760093" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>226</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Robert Kelly</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Author Jim DeRogatis ( Soulless: The Case Against R. Kelly  ISBN 1419740075 ) Twitter: @JimDeRogatis  joins me to discuss the cult like mind control that R Kelly perpetrated on countless girls according to the Surviving R Kelly Docuseries</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:48</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>WARNING  This episode contains frank discussion of emotional, physical and sexual abuse of minors
In this episode, we discuss:
How Jim became aware of the initial allegations against R Kelly
How R Kelly targeted his victims
How R Kelly controlled his victims
What we know about his co-conspirators
Does R Kelly know he's an abuser?
How "The Settlement Factory" kept R Kelly abusing people for years
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>WARNING</em></strong>  This episode contains frank discussion of emotional, physical and sexual abuse of minors</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Jim became aware of the initial allegations against R Kelly</li>
<li>How R Kelly targeted his victims</li>
<li>How R Kelly controlled his victims</li>
<li>What we know about his co-conspirators</li>
<li>Does R Kelly know he&#39;s an abuser?</li>
<li>How &quot;The Settlement Factory&quot; kept R Kelly abusing people for years</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><strong><em>WARNING</em></strong>  This episode contains frank discussion of emotional, physical and sexual abuse of minors</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Jim became aware of the initial allegations against R Kelly</li>
<li>How R Kelly targeted his victims</li>
<li>How R Kelly controlled his victims</li>
<li>What we know about his co-conspirators</li>
<li>Does R Kelly know he&#39;s an abuser?</li>
<li>How &quot;The Settlement Factory&quot; kept R Kelly abusing people for years</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 225: Acts 29: Part 2</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/225</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2020 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/6faf8187-b107-4186-817d-13ac8cc0f3e7.mp3" length="26719212" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>225</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Acts 29: Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dana joins me to discuss more about her time in Acts 29, getting out, and beyond</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>18:33</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/6/6faf8187-b107-4186-817d-13ac8cc0f3e7/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
Why Dana quickly learned it's not ok to question things
What happened when Dana chose a bible passage to discuss in group
What happened to a friend of hers who was asked to leave
What was the final straw for her
What she learned about the group after leaving
What life is like outside of the organization
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why Dana quickly learned it&#39;s not ok to question things</li>
<li>What happened when Dana chose a bible passage to discuss in group</li>
<li>What happened to a friend of hers who was asked to leave</li>
<li>What was the final straw for her</li>
<li>What she learned about the group after leaving</li>
<li>What life is like outside of the organization</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why Dana quickly learned it&#39;s not ok to question things</li>
<li>What happened when Dana chose a bible passage to discuss in group</li>
<li>What happened to a friend of hers who was asked to leave</li>
<li>What was the final straw for her</li>
<li>What she learned about the group after leaving</li>
<li>What life is like outside of the organization</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+434NesuP</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 224: Acts 29: Part 1</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/224</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/1c45ea3f-6a8d-4fde-a318-11c4efb88865.mp3" length="24864727" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>224</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Acts 29: Part 1</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>My guest Dana joins me to discuss her time in Neo-Calvinist group Acts 29. Part one of two.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:15</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/1c45ea3f-6a8d-4fde-a318-11c4efb88865/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Dana was looking for a way to heal after a relationship break up. What she found was a high demand group with some questionable ideas about personal responsibility.
In this episode, we discuss:
What is Neo-Calvinism?
What does Acts 29 believe?
What is the Acts 29 lifestyle like?
What happens in study groups?
What made her begin to question her committment?
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dana was looking for a way to heal after a relationship break up. What she found was a high demand group with some questionable ideas about personal responsibility.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is Neo-Calvinism?</li>
<li>What does Acts 29 believe?</li>
<li>What is the Acts 29 lifestyle like?</li>
<li>What happens in study groups?</li>
<li>What made her begin to question her committment?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dana was looking for a way to heal after a relationship break up. What she found was a high demand group with some questionable ideas about personal responsibility.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What is Neo-Calvinism?</li>
<li>What does Acts 29 believe?</li>
<li>What is the Acts 29 lifestyle like?</li>
<li>What happens in study groups?</li>
<li>What made her begin to question her committment?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+WHEeHpY9</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 223: Toxic Workplaces</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/223</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/91504b14-66c7-4017-bc2f-2af45ab1904c.mp3" length="22795829" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>223</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Toxic Workplaces</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode Jordan Uhl joins me to discuss how working at a popular non profit was a high demand situation with coercion, emotional manipulation and sometimes abusive situations.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:49</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/9/91504b14-66c7-4017-bc2f-2af45ab1904c/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
Some of the unusual requests made of him in the interview
How forcing candidates to work for free set up a culture of precarcity
What happened when he negotiated his salary
What illegal thing he was asked to do
The strange veneration of the group's leader
And more...
Follow Jordan at @jordanuhl on twitter or join his podcast at theinsurgents.substack.com (https://theinsurgents.substack.com/) 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Some of the unusual requests made of him in the interview</li>
<li>How forcing candidates to work for free set up a culture of precarcity</li>
<li>What happened when he negotiated his salary</li>
<li>What illegal thing he was asked to do</li>
<li>The strange veneration of the group&#39;s leader</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Follow Jordan at @jordanuhl on twitter or join his podcast at <a href="https://theinsurgents.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">theinsurgents.substack.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Some of the unusual requests made of him in the interview</li>
<li>How forcing candidates to work for free set up a culture of precarcity</li>
<li>What happened when he negotiated his salary</li>
<li>What illegal thing he was asked to do</li>
<li>The strange veneration of the group&#39;s leader</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Follow Jordan at @jordanuhl on twitter or join his podcast at <a href="https://theinsurgents.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">theinsurgents.substack.com</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+pL9Vlxxk</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 222: ISKCON (Hare Krishnas) Part 2</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/222</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/741a89db-1ac1-430a-a226-c8308f764726.mp3" length="27325462" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>222</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>ISKCON (Hare Krishnas) Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Thanks for your patience! 

This week, Eric joins me to discuss what made him leave ISKCON</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>18:58</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/7/741a89db-1ac1-430a-a226-c8308f764726/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In Part 2, We discuss:
What it's like to leave a group and a marriage at the same time
Leaving a group when you're not legally free to work inthe country where you live
How having a son made Eric re-evaluate his experiences
When he knew it was time to leave
How he got out
What he did once he was out
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Part 2, We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it&#39;s like to leave a group and a marriage at the same time</li>
<li>Leaving a group when you&#39;re not legally free to work inthe country where you live</li>
<li>How having a son made Eric re-evaluate his experiences</li>
<li>When he knew it was time to leave</li>
<li>How he got out</li>
<li>What he did once he was out</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In Part 2, We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it&#39;s like to leave a group and a marriage at the same time</li>
<li>Leaving a group when you&#39;re not legally free to work inthe country where you live</li>
<li>How having a son made Eric re-evaluate his experiences</li>
<li>When he knew it was time to leave</li>
<li>How he got out</li>
<li>What he did once he was out</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+N9ScdU0Y</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 221: ISKCON (Hare Krishnas)</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/221</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2020 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/bf57bba5-2d7b-4a67-ae11-e83aee1b690d.mp3" length="23224028" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>221</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>ISKCON (Hare Krishnas)</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>An ex-ISKCON member joins me to discuss his childhood with a parent who was involved in an LGAT and his adult involvement in ISKCON- International Society of Krishna Consciousness</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:07</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/b/bf57bba5-2d7b-4a67-ae11-e83aee1b690d/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Eric joins me to discuss:
How his family beng involved in an LGAT might have primed him to join ISKCON later in life
What the belief system of ISKCON is
How restrictive the lifestyle can be
Why ISKCON is full of contradictions of practice vs doctrine
How love and marriage are handled
What the Devotee-Guru relationship looks like
And more...
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Eric joins me to discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How his family beng involved in an LGAT might have primed him to join ISKCON later in life</li>
<li>What the belief system of ISKCON is</li>
<li>How restrictive the lifestyle can be</li>
<li>Why ISKCON is full of contradictions of practice vs doctrine</li>
<li>How love and marriage are handled</li>
<li>What the Devotee-Guru relationship looks like</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Eric joins me to discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How his family beng involved in an LGAT might have primed him to join ISKCON later in life</li>
<li>What the belief system of ISKCON is</li>
<li>How restrictive the lifestyle can be</li>
<li>Why ISKCON is full of contradictions of practice vs doctrine</li>
<li>How love and marriage are handled</li>
<li>What the Devotee-Guru relationship looks like</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+4yPVqZfz</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+4yPVqZfz" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 220: The LDS Church Part 2</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/220</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Feb 2020 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/d931e0f8-3a37-4b25-9666-b9d747f7b307.mp3" length="23010242" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>220</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The LDS Church Part 2</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Marie* continues her story about life in the LDS Church, and beyond</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:58</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/d/d931e0f8-3a37-4b25-9666-b9d747f7b307/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
The ways in which the Church operates like Scientology
The pressure put on women
What makes Mormon marriages perilous
What sealing is
Why if you're sealed to a man, you had better hope you die first
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The ways in which the Church operates like Scientology</li>
<li>The pressure put on women</li>
<li>What makes Mormon marriages perilous</li>
<li>What sealing is</li>
<li>Why if you&#39;re sealed to a man, you had better hope you die first</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The ways in which the Church operates like Scientology</li>
<li>The pressure put on women</li>
<li>What makes Mormon marriages perilous</li>
<li>What sealing is</li>
<li>Why if you&#39;re sealed to a man, you had better hope you die first</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+5UwM6hXS</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 219: The LDS Church</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/219</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 Jan 2020 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/ccc8c6a7-e6fa-40c8-8c49-6b6faf7fa5cc.mp3" length="23473550" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>219</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The LDS Church</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Marie* joins me for part one of a two part episode on her experiences inside the Church of Latter Day Saints (Mormons) which she describes as a high demand group that limited her choices in life.
</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:17</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/c/ccc8c6a7-e6fa-40c8-8c49-6b6faf7fa5cc/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, Marie and I discuss:
What do Mormons actually believe?
What are the expectations put on every member of a Mormon Family?
How are Mormon sons and Mormon daughters raised differently?
What does courtship look like in the church?
What does the church actually teach about homosexuality?
What is life like for women at BYU?
And much more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Marie and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What do Mormons actually believe?</li>
<li>What are the expectations put on every member of a Mormon Family?</li>
<li>How are Mormon sons and Mormon daughters raised differently?</li>
<li>What does courtship look like in the church?</li>
<li>What does the church actually teach about homosexuality?</li>
<li>What is life like for women at BYU?</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Marie and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What do Mormons actually believe?</li>
<li>What are the expectations put on every member of a Mormon Family?</li>
<li>How are Mormon sons and Mormon daughters raised differently?</li>
<li>What does courtship look like in the church?</li>
<li>What does the church actually teach about homosexuality?</li>
<li>What is life like for women at BYU?</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+u29IitX5</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+u29IitX5" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 218: Narcissists with W. Keith Campbell</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/218</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2020 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/9c89e2cd-bfcd-4146-816b-452b988b89ea.mp3" length="24329948" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>218</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Narcissists with W. Keith Campbell</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>W. Keith Campbell literally wrote the book (several, actually) on narcissists. He joins me to discuss Narcissism to better understand what's going on in the mind of cult leaders, and how they're able to charm people into surrendering everything.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:53</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/9/9c89e2cd-bfcd-4146-816b-452b988b89ea/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
What preconditions cause Narcissism
How to tell if you're dealing with a Narcissist
Narcissists in the workplace
Narcisissts in relationships
Narcissists as parents
What makes Narcissists the perfect Cult leaders
How to protect yourself from Narcissists
And more...
Visit http://wkeithcampbell.com for more info 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What preconditions cause Narcissism</li>
<li>How to tell if you&#39;re dealing with a Narcissist</li>
<li>Narcissists in the workplace</li>
<li>Narcisissts in relationships</li>
<li>Narcissists as parents</li>
<li>What makes Narcissists the perfect Cult leaders</li>
<li>How to protect yourself from Narcissists</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Visit <a href="http://wkeithcampbell.com" rel="nofollow">http://wkeithcampbell.com</a> for more info</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What preconditions cause Narcissism</li>
<li>How to tell if you&#39;re dealing with a Narcissist</li>
<li>Narcissists in the workplace</li>
<li>Narcisissts in relationships</li>
<li>Narcissists as parents</li>
<li>What makes Narcissists the perfect Cult leaders</li>
<li>How to protect yourself from Narcissists</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Visit <a href="http://wkeithcampbell.com" rel="nofollow">http://wkeithcampbell.com</a> for more info</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+ZaHr-o5G</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
        <![CDATA[<iframe src="https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+ZaHr-o5G" width="740" height="200" frameborder="0" scrolling="no">]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 217: Glynn Washington on Heaven's Gate</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/217</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/7c1d2ce8-20b5-4835-8219-9e02690f758a.mp3" length="21476123" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>217</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Glynn Washington on Heaven's Gate</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Glynn Washington, host of Snap Judgement and producer/host of the Heaven's Gate podcast joins me to discuss why he decided to revisit Heaven's Gate and his own story of growing up in a cult.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>14:54</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/7/7c1d2ce8-20b5-4835-8219-9e02690f758a/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Glynn Washington and I discuss:
Why he wanted to revisit Heaven's Gate
Why there are people who are sad they missed their chance to join the departed
What chilled him to his bone in the interview process
What it was like for him growing up in a cult
What it's like for an African American man to be in a cult with White Supremacist doctrine
What it was like to leave his cult
What he learned in covering Heaven's Gate decades later
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Glynn Washington and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why he wanted to revisit Heaven&#39;s Gate</li>
<li>Why there are people who are sad they missed their chance to join the departed</li>
<li>What chilled him to his bone in the interview process</li>
<li>What it was like for him growing up in a cult</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like for an African American man to be in a cult with White Supremacist doctrine</li>
<li>What it was like to leave his cult</li>
<li>What he learned in covering Heaven&#39;s Gate decades later</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Glynn Washington and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why he wanted to revisit Heaven&#39;s Gate</li>
<li>Why there are people who are sad they missed their chance to join the departed</li>
<li>What chilled him to his bone in the interview process</li>
<li>What it was like for him growing up in a cult</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like for an African American man to be in a cult with White Supremacist doctrine</li>
<li>What it was like to leave his cult</li>
<li>What he learned in covering Heaven&#39;s Gate decades later</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+KnQPxmCQ</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 216: XXXXXXX </title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/216</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2020 11:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/4f3b8786-8559-4b41-8f71-490da5498829.mp3" length="22296786" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>216</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>XXXXXXX </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Last season, we explored LGATs. This season, my guest Kate* joins me to go behind the curtain of the original LGAT and tells us about a frightening experience she had
*not her real name</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:28</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/4/4f3b8786-8559-4b41-8f71-490da5498829/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>The promise of Large Group Awareness Training is that it's a "bootcamp for the mind." You can get a lot of therapeutic benefit out of just a few highly intense days.
The problem is, LGATs have always been pure moneymaking operations with no credible therapeutic basis. 
In this episode, Kate and I discuss:
How she got involved with XXXXXXX
What actually happens inside the seminars, day by day
Why people were sobbing in the bathrooms
Why the seminar tells you to call and make amends with relatives, even if they abused you.
What happened in the guided meditation sessions
What rattled her to her core
And much more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>The promise of Large Group Awareness Training is that it&#39;s a &quot;bootcamp for the mind.&quot; You can get a lot of therapeutic benefit out of just a few highly intense days.</p>

<p>The problem is, LGATs have always been pure moneymaking operations with no credible therapeutic basis. </p>

<p>In this episode, Kate and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How she got involved with XXXXXXX</li>
<li>What actually happens inside the seminars, day by day</li>
<li>Why people were sobbing in the bathrooms</li>
<li>Why the seminar tells you to call and make amends with relatives, even if they abused you.</li>
<li>What happened in the guided meditation sessions</li>
<li>What rattled her to her core</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>The promise of Large Group Awareness Training is that it&#39;s a &quot;bootcamp for the mind.&quot; You can get a lot of therapeutic benefit out of just a few highly intense days.</p>

<p>The problem is, LGATs have always been pure moneymaking operations with no credible therapeutic basis. </p>

<p>In this episode, Kate and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How she got involved with XXXXXXX</li>
<li>What actually happens inside the seminars, day by day</li>
<li>Why people were sobbing in the bathrooms</li>
<li>Why the seminar tells you to call and make amends with relatives, even if they abused you.</li>
<li>What happened in the guided meditation sessions</li>
<li>What rattled her to her core</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+vGdySy72</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 215: Soka Gakkai International with Juana Castanheira PART TWO</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/215</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/fb02bb8b-1c4a-43f1-97b6-a8a5514d6e25.mp3" length="30012731" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>215</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Soka Gakkai International with Juana Castanheira PART TWO</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Juana Castanheira joins me for another episode to talk candidly about her recovery from SGI, MLMs, and TM.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:37</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/f/fb02bb8b-1c4a-43f1-97b6-a8a5514d6e25/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Juana Castanheira, our survivor of SGI contacted me after her episode to ask to further articulate what processing out of a cult looks like.
In this episode, we discuss:
The shame and guilt of leaving
What happened when she tried to resign from her leadership position at SGI
Why she later worked again for SGI
Her experiences with MLMs
Her experiences with Transcendental Meditation and her sister being in the group
And much more... Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.
</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Juana Castanheira, our survivor of SGI contacted me after her episode to ask to further articulate what processing out of a cult looks like.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The shame and guilt of leaving</li>
<li>What happened when she tried to resign from her leadership position at SGI</li>
<li>Why she later worked again for SGI</li>
<li>Her experiences with MLMs</li>
<li>Her experiences with Transcendental Meditation and her sister being in the group</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Juana Castanheira, our survivor of SGI contacted me after her episode to ask to further articulate what processing out of a cult looks like.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The shame and guilt of leaving</li>
<li>What happened when she tried to resign from her leadership position at SGI</li>
<li>Why she later worked again for SGI</li>
<li>Her experiences with MLMs</li>
<li>Her experiences with Transcendental Meditation and her sister being in the group</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+7_HbeuuM</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://sonomaenergymedicine.com/" role="guest">Juana Castanheira</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 214: Jon Atack</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/214</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/3d2864c7-0866-4c73-8671-671565a7abc8.mp3" length="40332144" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>214</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Jon Atack</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jon Atack is the author of the definitive history of the Scientology organization (Let's Sell Them A Piece of Blue Sky ISBN  1482023032) 

Since the publication of that book and the legal battles that followed, Jon has helped people who have left cults re-integrate and now has a YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI4tcSMV2kEh3BooY_XFSYQ</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>21:00</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/3/3d2864c7-0866-4c73-8671-671565a7abc8/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, Jon Atack and I discuss:
How he got involved in Scientology
What training Scientologists get on recruitment
Why we don't train kids how to spot predators, narcissists, and psychopaths
What we should be teaching children
Why it seems like more people are joining cults
And more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Jon Atack and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How he got involved in Scientology</li>
<li>What training Scientologists get on recruitment</li>
<li>Why we don&#39;t train kids how to spot predators, narcissists, and psychopaths</li>
<li>What we should be teaching children</li>
<li>Why it seems like more people are joining cults</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Jon Atack and I discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How he got involved in Scientology</li>
<li>What training Scientologists get on recruitment</li>
<li>Why we don&#39;t train kids how to spot predators, narcissists, and psychopaths</li>
<li>What we should be teaching children</li>
<li>Why it seems like more people are joining cults</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+lJhpj7dV</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 213: Overcoming Cult Trauma With Psychedelics</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/213</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2019 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/645db55f-21a0-4470-8656-12e7f04f5724.mp3" length="30108026" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>213</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Overcoming Cult Trauma With Psychedelics</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Chelsea Lockwood joins me to discuss her journey out of the Jehovah's Witnesses and overcoming that trauma with the help of Ayahuasca. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:40</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/6/645db55f-21a0-4470-8656-12e7f04f5724/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Chelsea Lockwood, author of this Medium Piece (https://humanparts.medium.com/how-i-overcame-cult-trauma-with-psychedelics-4342c03a074c?) Joins me to discuss her time in the Jehovah's Witnesses, leaving, and healing through Ayahuasca ceremonies.
In this episode, we discuss:
How aware children are made of the apocalyptic nature of the Jehovah's Witness beliefs
Corporal punishment in the Jehovah's Witnesses
What types of abuse she was privy to while a member
What it's like to be a child with extreme panic attacks
How she discovered Ayahuasca
What psychedelics have taught her about her life experiences
And much more... 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Chelsea Lockwood, <a href="https://humanparts.medium.com/how-i-overcame-cult-trauma-with-psychedelics-4342c03a074c?" rel="nofollow">author of this Medium Piece</a> Joins me to discuss her time in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses, leaving, and healing through Ayahuasca ceremonies.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How aware children are made of the apocalyptic nature of the Jehovah&#39;s Witness beliefs</li>
<li>Corporal punishment in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses</li>
<li>What types of abuse she was privy to while a member</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be a child with extreme panic attacks</li>
<li>How she discovered Ayahuasca</li>
<li>What psychedelics have taught her about her life experiences</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Chelsea Lockwood, <a href="https://humanparts.medium.com/how-i-overcame-cult-trauma-with-psychedelics-4342c03a074c?" rel="nofollow">author of this Medium Piece</a> Joins me to discuss her time in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses, leaving, and healing through Ayahuasca ceremonies.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How aware children are made of the apocalyptic nature of the Jehovah&#39;s Witness beliefs</li>
<li>Corporal punishment in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses</li>
<li>What types of abuse she was privy to while a member</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be a child with extreme panic attacks</li>
<li>How she discovered Ayahuasca</li>
<li>What psychedelics have taught her about her life experiences</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+FgYT4tiZ</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 212: Abusive Relationships with Donna Anderson</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/212</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2019 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/ef4ebfe6-0e84-4bc1-b8f8-57893c57052e.mp3" length="31011653" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>212</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Abusive Relationships with Donna Anderson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Donna Anderson of LoveFraud (lovefraud.com) joins me to discuss the similarities between how abusers target and string along mates and how cults recruit followers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:08</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/ef4ebfe6-0e84-4bc1-b8f8-57893c57052e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, we discuss:
    How to identify a problematic partner
    How sociopaths target and manipulate partners
    Why love bombing is important to both cults and abusive partners
    Whether we're as good at identifying liars as we thing
    The similarities between cult leader behaviours and abusive partner behaviours
    How to get out of a bad relationship
    And more...
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    How to identify a problematic partner</li>
<li>    How sociopaths target and manipulate partners</li>
<li>    Why love bombing is important to both cults and abusive partners</li>
<li>    Whether we&#39;re as good at identifying liars as we thing</li>
<li>    The similarities between cult leader behaviours and abusive partner behaviours</li>
<li>    How to get out of a bad relationship</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    How to identify a problematic partner</li>
<li>    How sociopaths target and manipulate partners</li>
<li>    Why love bombing is important to both cults and abusive partners</li>
<li>    Whether we&#39;re as good at identifying liars as we thing</li>
<li>    The similarities between cult leader behaviours and abusive partner behaviours</li>
<li>    How to get out of a bad relationship</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+99LqBYUE</fireside:playerURL>
      <fireside:playerEmbedCode>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 211: New Kadampa Tradition</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/211</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2019 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/d5540924-c995-4902-80ca-5d043b0deab7.mp3" length="31962929" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>211</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>New Kadampa Tradition</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Dr Michelle Haslam joins me to explain why even someone with high level psychological training can get swept into a high demand group</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:38</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/d/d5540924-c995-4902-80ca-5d043b0deab7/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Dr Michelle Haslam (https://newkadampatraditionreport.org) Joins me to discuss how she was seduced by the idea of living in a peaceful intentional community, only to find out the group's main focus was expansion and encouraging cruelty.
In this episode, we discuss:
Who is (Was?) Kelsang Gyatso
 The differences between New Kadampa Tradition and mainline Buddhism
 The hypocritical belief system
 What it's like to live on site
 Why some say NKT encourages sadistic behaviour
 How NKT is like NXIVM and Scientology
 And more... Special Guest: Dr. Michelle Haslam.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dr Michelle Haslam (<a href="https://newkadampatraditionreport.org" rel="nofollow">https://newkadampatraditionreport.org</a>) Joins me to discuss how she was seduced by the idea of living in a peaceful intentional community, only to find out the group&#39;s main focus was expansion and encouraging cruelty.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Who is (Was?) Kelsang Gyatso</li>
<li> The differences between New Kadampa Tradition and mainline Buddhism</li>
<li> The hypocritical belief system</li>
<li> What it&#39;s like to live on site</li>
<li> Why some say NKT encourages sadistic behaviour</li>
<li> How NKT is like NXIVM and Scientology</li>
<li> And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Dr. Michelle Haslam.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Dr Michelle Haslam (<a href="https://newkadampatraditionreport.org" rel="nofollow">https://newkadampatraditionreport.org</a>) Joins me to discuss how she was seduced by the idea of living in a peaceful intentional community, only to find out the group&#39;s main focus was expansion and encouraging cruelty.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Who is (Was?) Kelsang Gyatso</li>
<li> The differences between New Kadampa Tradition and mainline Buddhism</li>
<li> The hypocritical belief system</li>
<li> What it&#39;s like to live on site</li>
<li> Why some say NKT encourages sadistic behaviour</li>
<li> How NKT is like NXIVM and Scientology</li>
<li> And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Dr. Michelle Haslam.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+cGVFj_n8</fireside:playerURL>
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      </fireside:playerEmbedCode>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://newkadampatraditionreport.org/" role="guest">Dr. Michelle Haslam</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 210: The Work </title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/210</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/32222bf1-3976-40a9-beb1-47e2345875fe.mp3" length="31249054" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>210</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Work </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>What's it like to be born into a group that believes in a biblical Armageddon prophecy and that their leader is God on Earth? My guest Sarah Ficca explains</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:16</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/3/32222bf1-3976-40a9-beb1-47e2345875fe/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode we discuss:
How the group was not prepared for kids attending outside schools
What kind of weekly schedule the members had
How the group handled questions about the doctrine
How Brother Julius disciplined followers
How the group was at the mercy of Brother Julius' whims
How Sarah got through it with the help of parties and teenage rebellion
And more... Special Guest: Sarah Ficca.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How the group was not prepared for kids attending outside schools</li>
<li>What kind of weekly schedule the members had</li>
<li>How the group handled questions about the doctrine</li>
<li>How Brother Julius disciplined followers</li>
<li>How the group was at the mercy of Brother Julius&#39; whims</li>
<li>How Sarah got through it with the help of parties and teenage rebellion</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Sarah Ficca.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How the group was not prepared for kids attending outside schools</li>
<li>What kind of weekly schedule the members had</li>
<li>How the group handled questions about the doctrine</li>
<li>How Brother Julius disciplined followers</li>
<li>How the group was at the mercy of Brother Julius&#39; whims</li>
<li>How Sarah got through it with the help of parties and teenage rebellion</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Sarah Ficca.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+-RjVnnpY</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Sarah Ficca</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 209: Tony Ortega</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/209</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2019 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>209</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Tony Ortega</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>For years, Tony Ortega has been relentlessly covering the Church of Scientology. He has made some powerful enemies. Find out what it's like to be one of Scientology's biggest enemies. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>20:26</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Tony Ortega  (http://tonyortega.org) Joins me for an extra long episode to discuss what it's like covering a group like Scientology for so long. In this episode, we discuss:
Why the Scientology/Nation of Islam alliance isn't so unusual
What kinds of retaliations the Church has made against him and those closest to him
What we know about the FBI's Trafficking case against the Church
Why the media was reticent to report on the Danny Masterson allegations
Are there still people in "The Hole?"
Where is Shelly Miscavige?
And much more... Special Guest: Tony Ortega.
</description>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tonyortega.org" rel="nofollow">Tony Ortega </a> Joins me for an extra long episode to discuss what it&#39;s like covering a group like Scientology for so long. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why the Scientology/Nation of Islam alliance isn&#39;t so unusual</li>
<li>What kinds of retaliations the Church has made against him and those closest to him</li>
<li>What we know about the FBI&#39;s Trafficking case against the Church</li>
<li>Why the media was reticent to report on the Danny Masterson allegations</li>
<li>Are there still people in &quot;The Hole?&quot;</li>
<li>Where is Shelly Miscavige?</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Tony Ortega.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://tonyortega.org" rel="nofollow">Tony Ortega </a> Joins me for an extra long episode to discuss what it&#39;s like covering a group like Scientology for so long. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why the Scientology/Nation of Islam alliance isn&#39;t so unusual</li>
<li>What kinds of retaliations the Church has made against him and those closest to him</li>
<li>What we know about the FBI&#39;s Trafficking case against the Church</li>
<li>Why the media was reticent to report on the Danny Masterson allegations</li>
<li>Are there still people in &quot;The Hole?&quot;</li>
<li>Where is Shelly Miscavige?</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Tony Ortega.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://tonyortega.org" role="guest">Tony Ortega</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 208: Transcendental Meditation (TM) </title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/208</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>208</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Transcendental Meditation (TM) </itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Aryeh Siegel, author of Transcendental Deception (0999661507) joins me to describe his time in the TM movement and why you should not allow your school to welcome TM practitioners.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:40</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Aryeh Siegel was a member of Transcendental Meditation in the 1970s and early 1980s. In this episode, we discuss:
Why TM hides its religious origins
Why TM fought in court to not have a translation of the Puja made public
What the science is on the TM technique
How TM leverages celebrities, including Tom Hanks, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah, and Ellen.
Why TM is making a big push for schools in low income districts
Whether you can be physically harmed doing TM
And much more...
TM Deception Website (https://www.tmdeception.com)
Movie- David Wants To Fly (https://archive.org/details/DavidWantsToFly) Special Guest: Aryeh Siegel.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Aryeh Siegel was a member of Transcendental Meditation in the 1970s and early 1980s. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why TM hides its religious origins</li>
<li>Why TM fought in court to not have a translation of the Puja made public</li>
<li>What the science is on the TM technique</li>
<li>How TM leverages celebrities, including Tom Hanks, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah, and Ellen.</li>
<li>Why TM is making a big push for schools in low income districts</li>
<li>Whether you can be physically harmed doing TM</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://www.tmdeception.com" rel="nofollow">TM Deception Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/DavidWantsToFly" rel="nofollow">Movie- David Wants To Fly</a></p><p>Special Guest: Aryeh Siegel.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Aryeh Siegel was a member of Transcendental Meditation in the 1970s and early 1980s. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why TM hides its religious origins</li>
<li>Why TM fought in court to not have a translation of the Puja made public</li>
<li>What the science is on the TM technique</li>
<li>How TM leverages celebrities, including Tom Hanks, Jerry Seinfeld, Oprah, and Ellen.</li>
<li>Why TM is making a big push for schools in low income districts</li>
<li>Whether you can be physically harmed doing TM</li>
<li>And much more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://www.tmdeception.com" rel="nofollow">TM Deception Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://archive.org/details/DavidWantsToFly" rel="nofollow">Movie- David Wants To Fly</a></p><p>Special Guest: Aryeh Siegel.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.tmdeception.com" role="guest">Aryeh Siegel</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 207: Steve Hassan</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/207</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>207</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Steve Hassan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>***UNLOCKED FULL EPISODE***

Cult Survivor and Cult Expert Steve Hassan joins me for a full hour to discuss his latest book The Cult of Trump: A Leading Cult Expert Explains How the President Uses Mind Control ( ISBN 1982127333) and why we should be more concerned about Manchurian Candidates in the future.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>59:48</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Steven Hassan was once in the Unification Church, helping recruit and spread their thought reform. He was exit counselled and has since dedicated his life to the study of thought reform. He created the BITE model which explains how thought reform occurs and now counsels survivors and families on how to heal after leaving cults.
Steve joins me for an hour to discuss: 
How the CIA went about trying to build a Manchurian Candidate in the 1960s
How Trump's parental ties and upbringing made him into an ideal person to lead a cult
How Trump found himself controlled by the only people who would lend him money after his business failures
How Evangelicals and Fundamentalists can support a man who has been immoral most of his life
What significance NLP played in Trump's election strategy
How groups like The Family will ensure that candidates like Trump will be there for them 
And more... Special Guest: Steve Hassan.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Steven Hassan was once in the Unification Church, helping recruit and spread their thought reform. He was exit counselled and has since dedicated his life to the study of thought reform. He created the BITE model which explains how thought reform occurs and now counsels survivors and families on how to heal after leaving cults.</p>

<p>Steve joins me for an hour to discuss: </p>

<ul>
<li>How the CIA went about trying to build a Manchurian Candidate in the 1960s</li>
<li>How Trump&#39;s parental ties and upbringing made him into an ideal person to lead a cult</li>
<li>How Trump found himself controlled by the only people who would lend him money after his business failures</li>
<li>How Evangelicals and Fundamentalists can support a man who has been immoral most of his life</li>
<li>What significance NLP played in Trump&#39;s election strategy</li>
<li>How groups like The Family will ensure that candidates like Trump will be there for them </li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Steve Hassan.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Steven Hassan was once in the Unification Church, helping recruit and spread their thought reform. He was exit counselled and has since dedicated his life to the study of thought reform. He created the BITE model which explains how thought reform occurs and now counsels survivors and families on how to heal after leaving cults.</p>

<p>Steve joins me for an hour to discuss: </p>

<ul>
<li>How the CIA went about trying to build a Manchurian Candidate in the 1960s</li>
<li>How Trump&#39;s parental ties and upbringing made him into an ideal person to lead a cult</li>
<li>How Trump found himself controlled by the only people who would lend him money after his business failures</li>
<li>How Evangelicals and Fundamentalists can support a man who has been immoral most of his life</li>
<li>What significance NLP played in Trump&#39;s election strategy</li>
<li>How groups like The Family will ensure that candidates like Trump will be there for them </li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Steve Hassan.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://freedomofmind.com/" role="guest">Steve Hassan</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 205: Soka Gakkai International with Juana Castanheira</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/205</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Oct 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>205</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Soka Gakkai International with Juana Castanheira</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Namu Myōhō Renge Kyō. It's a chant you may have heard, and you may have thought it was part of regular Buddhist practice. It's actually a chant that's the cornerstone of a group called Soka Gakkai International</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:05:42</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>This week, former member of Soka Gakkai International, Juana Castanheira, joins me to talk about her time in the group.
We discuss:
How she and her brother were recruited
How she knew she was all in
What is the significance of the 'scroll?'
What demands were put on her as she rose through the ranks
Why she never once complained
When she decided to leave
And more... Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, former member of Soka Gakkai International, Juana Castanheira, joins me to talk about her time in the group.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How she and her brother were recruited</li>
<li>How she knew she was all in</li>
<li>What is the significance of the &#39;scroll?&#39;</li>
<li>What demands were put on her as she rose through the ranks</li>
<li>Why she never once complained</li>
<li>When she decided to leave</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, former member of Soka Gakkai International, Juana Castanheira, joins me to talk about her time in the group.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How she and her brother were recruited</li>
<li>How she knew she was all in</li>
<li>What is the significance of the &#39;scroll?&#39;</li>
<li>What demands were put on her as she rose through the ranks</li>
<li>Why she never once complained</li>
<li>When she decided to leave</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Juana Castanheira.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://sonomaenergymedicine.com/" role="guest">Juana Castanheira</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 204: OneTaste With Ellen Huet and Ruwan Meepagala</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/204</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/eb57a430-23e9-4a3b-9102-843ae69d4744.mp3" length="29775330" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>204</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>OneTaste With Ellen Huet and Ruwan Meepagala</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>OneTaste started with a simple but powerful mission: to teach women to receive pleasure without any hang ups or need to reciprocate. What ended up happening to many who joined the organization has left them wondering if their consent was ever fully given.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:30</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/eb57a430-23e9-4a3b-9102-843ae69d4744/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Ellen Huet of Bloomberg Businessweek joins me to discuss her coverage of OneTaste: once a darling of Silicon Valley, now an organization with an ousted founder, cancelled classes, and looking to pivot.
Ruwan Meepagala joins me to discuss his time in the organization.
In this episode, we discuss:
Why women wanted to join OneTaste
Why the group deliberately marketed their courses to Silicon Valley 
What Orgasmic Meditation is
What drew participants to work for the organization
What kinds of Quid Pro Quo were encouraged in the office
How consent lines were blurred for many
And More... Special Guests: Ellen Huet and Ruwan Meepagala.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Ellen Huet of Bloomberg Businessweek joins me to discuss her coverage of OneTaste: once a darling of Silicon Valley, now an organization with an ousted founder, cancelled classes, and looking to pivot.</p>

<p>Ruwan Meepagala joins me to discuss his time in the organization.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why women wanted to join OneTaste</li>
<li>Why the group deliberately marketed their courses to Silicon Valley </li>
<li>What Orgasmic Meditation is</li>
<li>What drew participants to work for the organization</li>
<li>What kinds of Quid Pro Quo were encouraged in the office</li>
<li>How consent lines were blurred for many</li>
<li>And More...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Ellen Huet and Ruwan Meepagala.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Ellen Huet of Bloomberg Businessweek joins me to discuss her coverage of OneTaste: once a darling of Silicon Valley, now an organization with an ousted founder, cancelled classes, and looking to pivot.</p>

<p>Ruwan Meepagala joins me to discuss his time in the organization.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why women wanted to join OneTaste</li>
<li>Why the group deliberately marketed their courses to Silicon Valley </li>
<li>What Orgasmic Meditation is</li>
<li>What drew participants to work for the organization</li>
<li>What kinds of Quid Pro Quo were encouraged in the office</li>
<li>How consent lines were blurred for many</li>
<li>And More...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Ellen Huet and Ruwan Meepagala.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/ASmGayS_jTQ/ellen-huet" role="guest">Ellen Huet</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.ruwando.com/home24484543" role="guest">Ruwan Meepagala</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 203: Munchausen By Proxy With Dr. Marc Feldman and Judy Tienken</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/203</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Oct 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/81d3e573-aad8-4cca-a688-bbb7bb328a66.mp3" length="28728760" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>203</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Munchausen By Proxy With Dr. Marc Feldman and Judy Tienken</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Coercive thought control doesn't just happen in cults or cult-like groups. In cases like Munchausen By Proxy, it's complete, abusive control by a mother over her children.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>14:57</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, we explore Munchausen By Proxy, a disease that, while not fully understood by doctors, is having a pop culture moment.
Dr. Marc Feldman, Psychiatrist and author of DYING TO BE ILL: TRUE STORIES OF MEDICAL DECEPTION (https://www.amazon.com/Dying-be-Ill-Marc-Feldman/dp/1138063835) joins me to discuss the clinical side of Munchausen By Proxy, while Judy Tienken joins me to explain her survivor story.
In this episode, we discuss:
*  The profile of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator
*  Whether perpetrators know they're abusing their children
*  What the prognosis is for helping victims of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator
*  What other forms of abuse Munchausen By Proxy can take
*  Why Munchausen By Proxy might be an under reported issue
*  The connection between some SIDS cases and Munchausen By Proxy
*  How often is Munchausen By Proxy mis-diagnosed?
*  What needs to be done to help victims of Munchausen By Proxy perpetrators to get justice
*  And more... Special Guests: Dr. Marc Feldman and Judy Tienken.
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore Munchausen By Proxy, a disease that, while not fully understood by doctors, is having a pop culture moment.</p>

<p>Dr. Marc Feldman, Psychiatrist and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dying-be-Ill-Marc-Feldman/dp/1138063835" rel="nofollow">DYING TO BE ILL: TRUE STORIES OF MEDICAL DECEPTION</a> joins me to discuss the clinical side of Munchausen By Proxy, while Judy Tienken joins me to explain her survivor story.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li> The profile of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator</li>
<li> Whether perpetrators know they&#39;re abusing their children</li>
<li> What the prognosis is for helping victims of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator</li>
<li> What other forms of abuse Munchausen By Proxy can take</li>
<li> Why Munchausen By Proxy might be an under reported issue</li>
<li> The connection between some SIDS cases and Munchausen By Proxy</li>
<li> How often is Munchausen By Proxy mis-diagnosed?</li>
<li> What needs to be done to help victims of Munchausen By Proxy perpetrators to get justice</li>
<li> And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Dr. Marc Feldman and Judy Tienken.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we explore Munchausen By Proxy, a disease that, while not fully understood by doctors, is having a pop culture moment.</p>

<p>Dr. Marc Feldman, Psychiatrist and author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dying-be-Ill-Marc-Feldman/dp/1138063835" rel="nofollow">DYING TO BE ILL: TRUE STORIES OF MEDICAL DECEPTION</a> joins me to discuss the clinical side of Munchausen By Proxy, while Judy Tienken joins me to explain her survivor story.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li> The profile of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator</li>
<li> Whether perpetrators know they&#39;re abusing their children</li>
<li> What the prognosis is for helping victims of a Munchausen By Proxy perpetrator</li>
<li> What other forms of abuse Munchausen By Proxy can take</li>
<li> Why Munchausen By Proxy might be an under reported issue</li>
<li> The connection between some SIDS cases and Munchausen By Proxy</li>
<li> How often is Munchausen By Proxy mis-diagnosed?</li>
<li> What needs to be done to help victims of Munchausen By Proxy perpetrators to get justice</li>
<li> And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Dr. Marc Feldman and Judy Tienken.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.munchausen.com/" role="guest">Dr. Marc Feldman</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Judy Tienken</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 202: Cult Therapy with Rachel Bernstein</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/202</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Sep 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>202</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Cult Therapy with Rachel Bernstein</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Most people think De-Programming is the only method to work with ex-cult members, but Rachel Bernstein, a licensed family therapist, specializes in therapy for family members and survivors of cults.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:13</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/b/b038cd6d-6460-4f5d-84e8-6e5f220ba50f/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode Rachel Bernstein lifts the veil on what Cult Therapy is about.
We discuss:
* What types of services cult therapists provide
* Why she must observe subtle cues from her patients
* What families can do to cope with waiting for family members to leave
* How to be a supportive family member when a loved one does leave a cult
* What the unique challenges are for cult survivors
* How to access resources if you need a cult counsellor
* And more...
Visit Rachel Bernstein's website (http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/)
Find out more about the IndoctriNation podcast (http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/indoctrination-podcast/) Special Guest: Rachel Bernstein.
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Rachel Bernstein lifts the veil on what Cult Therapy is about.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What types of services cult therapists provide</li>
<li>Why she must observe subtle cues from her patients</li>
<li>What families can do to cope with waiting for family members to leave</li>
<li>How to be a supportive family member when a loved one does leave a cult</li>
<li>What the unique challenges are for cult survivors</li>
<li>How to access resources if you need a cult counsellor</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/" rel="nofollow">Visit Rachel Bernstein&#39;s website</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/indoctrination-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Find out more about the IndoctriNation podcast</a></p><p>Special Guest: Rachel Bernstein.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode Rachel Bernstein lifts the veil on what Cult Therapy is about.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What types of services cult therapists provide</li>
<li>Why she must observe subtle cues from her patients</li>
<li>What families can do to cope with waiting for family members to leave</li>
<li>How to be a supportive family member when a loved one does leave a cult</li>
<li>What the unique challenges are for cult survivors</li>
<li>How to access resources if you need a cult counsellor</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/" rel="nofollow">Visit Rachel Bernstein&#39;s website</a></p>

<p><a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/indoctrination-podcast/" rel="nofollow">Find out more about the IndoctriNation podcast</a></p><p>Special Guest: Rachel Bernstein.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com" role="guest">Rachel Bernstein</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 000: Cross Post: Hear the first episode of On Grief: a Podcast about Death Free Now</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/000</link>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 19 Sep 2019 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/e70c7a31-fe0b-48b0-8f3b-54fed2f3ff3e.mp3" length="98966803" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>000</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Cross Post: Hear the first episode of On Grief: a Podcast about Death Free Now</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>**UNLOCKED FULL EPISODE*** For more free episodes, visit Patreon.com/ongriefpod 

To understand death, we have to ask people who have been there what it's like. I asked Dr. Eben Alexander, a Neurosurgeon and Near Death Experiencer to tell me what happened to him.

I also induce a Near Death Experience with the help of a substance called 5-MeO DMT.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:32</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/e70c7a31-fe0b-48b0-8f3b-54fed2f3ff3e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Please note: this episode is not intended to endorse the use of substances that are illegal.
In this episode, we explore what it is like to die. I discuss this with Neurosurgeon and Bestselling Author Dr. Eben Alexander (The Map of Heaven) who tells me about his Near Death Experience.
I also discuss how we can simulate a Near Death Experience through a drug called 5-MeO DMT ("The toad" or "Bufo") with Hilary Agro, a researcher and anthropologist who studies psychedelics, and I take 5-MeO DMT and describe my induced Near Death Experience.
Please note that for legal reasons, I am unable to discuss sourcing of 5-MeO DMT
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Please note: this episode is not intended to endorse the use of substances that are illegal.</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore what it is like to die. I discuss this with Neurosurgeon and Bestselling Author Dr. Eben Alexander (The Map of Heaven) who tells me about his Near Death Experience.</p>

<p>I also discuss how we can simulate a Near Death Experience through a drug called 5-MeO DMT (&quot;The toad&quot; or &quot;Bufo&quot;) with Hilary Agro, a researcher and anthropologist who studies psychedelics, and I take 5-MeO DMT and describe my induced Near Death Experience.</p>

<p>Please note that for legal reasons, I am unable to discuss sourcing of 5-MeO DMT</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Please note: this episode is not intended to endorse the use of substances that are illegal.</p>

<p>In this episode, we explore what it is like to die. I discuss this with Neurosurgeon and Bestselling Author Dr. Eben Alexander (The Map of Heaven) who tells me about his Near Death Experience.</p>

<p>I also discuss how we can simulate a Near Death Experience through a drug called 5-MeO DMT (&quot;The toad&quot; or &quot;Bufo&quot;) with Hilary Agro, a researcher and anthropologist who studies psychedelics, and I take 5-MeO DMT and describe my induced Near Death Experience.</p>

<p>Please note that for legal reasons, I am unable to discuss sourcing of 5-MeO DMT</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+PCKT3cED</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 201: Hate Groups with David Neiwert</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/201</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/15ab3d09-8899-4a75-961e-4945807c3fd5.mp3" length="81787634" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>201</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Hate Groups with David Neiwert</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>SEASON 2 PREMIERE
Season 2 of On Belief  will look at other ways that control and coercive thought reform are deployed.

This week, David Neiwert, Author of  Alt-America: The Rise of the Radical Right in the Age of Trump  (ISBN 1786634236) Joins me to discuss White Supremacist Hate Groups and their similarities to cults</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>56:47</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/15ab3d09-8899-4a75-961e-4945807c3fd5/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>David Neiwert joins me to discuss White Supremacist Hate Groups and how their recruitment, control, and proliferation are cult-like. In this episode, we discuss:
How easy it is to recruit people with the internet
Why White Supremacists go for young people
How White Supremacist ideas spread
Why your child could be getting radicalized when they play games online
What the threat level of White Supremacist terror is
Whether White Supremacist terror can be contained
The role the mainstream media and law enforcement have in spreading White Supremacist ideas
How to get a loved one out of these groups
And more...
Follow David Neiwert on Twitter here (https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert) Special Guest: David Neiwert.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>hate groups, white supremacy, patriots, militias, David Neiwert</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Neiwert joins me to discuss White Supremacist Hate Groups and how their recruitment, control, and proliferation are cult-like. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How easy it is to recruit people with the internet</li>
<li>Why White Supremacists go for young people</li>
<li>How White Supremacist ideas spread</li>
<li>Why your child could be getting radicalized when they play games online</li>
<li>What the threat level of White Supremacist terror is</li>
<li>Whether White Supremacist terror can be contained</li>
<li>The role the mainstream media and law enforcement have in spreading White Supremacist ideas</li>
<li>How to get a loved one out of these groups</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert" rel="nofollow">Follow David Neiwert on Twitter here</a></p><p>Special Guest: David Neiwert.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>David Neiwert joins me to discuss White Supremacist Hate Groups and how their recruitment, control, and proliferation are cult-like. In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How easy it is to recruit people with the internet</li>
<li>Why White Supremacists go for young people</li>
<li>How White Supremacist ideas spread</li>
<li>Why your child could be getting radicalized when they play games online</li>
<li>What the threat level of White Supremacist terror is</li>
<li>Whether White Supremacist terror can be contained</li>
<li>The role the mainstream media and law enforcement have in spreading White Supremacist ideas</li>
<li>How to get a loved one out of these groups</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p><a href="https://twitter.com/DavidNeiwert" rel="nofollow">Follow David Neiwert on Twitter here</a></p><p>Special Guest: David Neiwert.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+2B0GJILf</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.amazon.com/Alt-America-Rise-Radical-Right-Trump/dp/1786634236" role="guest">David Neiwert</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 200: ***SPECIAL TEASER FOR ON GRIEF: A PODCAST ABOUT DEATH***</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/200</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Sep 2019 08:45:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/6d82b493-998c-4a35-8217-410a11ca00bd.mp3" length="1955966" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>200</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>***SPECIAL TEASER FOR ON GRIEF: A PODCAST ABOUT DEATH***</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Launching this week: On Grief: A Podcast about Death

Find out more about my next project</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:00</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/6/6d82b493-998c-4a35-8217-410a11ca00bd/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>It's the one thing we're not supposed to talk about.
Each week on On Grief, I talk to people involved with death, the dying, or the grieving to discover what they know about death that we don't.
Coming this week with interviews with:
A mortician on what happens to your body when you're embalmed
An expert on the history of why we grieve the way we do
Caitlyn Doughty, author, Funeral Director and partner in The Order of the Good Death
And many, many more.
See you soon
Visit https://ongrief.fireside.fm/ or patreon.com/ongriefpod for more information
Find us on social media at ongriefpod (https://www.instagram.com/ongriefpod/) or https://twitter.com/ongriefpodcast 
</description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s the one thing we&#39;re not supposed to talk about.</p>

<p>Each week on On Grief, I talk to people involved with death, the dying, or the grieving to discover what they know about death that we don&#39;t.</p>

<p>Coming this week with interviews with:</p>

<ul>
<li>A mortician on what happens to your body when you&#39;re embalmed</li>
<li>An expert on the history of why we grieve the way we do</li>
<li>Caitlyn Doughty, author, Funeral Director and partner in The Order of the Good Death</li>
<li>And many, many more.</li>
</ul>

<p>See you soon</p>

<p>Visit <a href="https://ongrief.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://ongrief.fireside.fm/</a> or patreon.com/ongriefpod for more information</p>

<p>Find us on social media at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ongriefpod/" rel="nofollow">ongriefpod</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/ongriefpodcast" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/ongriefpodcast</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s the one thing we&#39;re not supposed to talk about.</p>

<p>Each week on On Grief, I talk to people involved with death, the dying, or the grieving to discover what they know about death that we don&#39;t.</p>

<p>Coming this week with interviews with:</p>

<ul>
<li>A mortician on what happens to your body when you&#39;re embalmed</li>
<li>An expert on the history of why we grieve the way we do</li>
<li>Caitlyn Doughty, author, Funeral Director and partner in The Order of the Good Death</li>
<li>And many, many more.</li>
</ul>

<p>See you soon</p>

<p>Visit <a href="https://ongrief.fireside.fm/" rel="nofollow">https://ongrief.fireside.fm/</a> or patreon.com/ongriefpod for more information</p>

<p>Find us on social media at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/ongriefpod/" rel="nofollow">ongriefpod</a> or <a href="https://twitter.com/ongriefpodcast" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/ongriefpodcast</a></p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/QufKjGkm+ETVGg5Jj</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 118: Catherine Oxenberg on Cults and Families</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/118</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Sep 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/0891e0cb-04a4-475e-9286-6a40842106e7.mp3" length="30279389" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>118</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Catherine Oxenberg on Cults and Families</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>FEED NOW FIXED 
Catherine Oxenberg, author of Captive: A Mother's Crusade to Save Her Daughter from a Terrifying Cult joins me to discuss her ordeal extracting her daughter India from NXIVM and her experiences helping bring Keith Raniere to justice.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:46</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Catherine Oxenberg candidly reveals details of her daughter's time spent in NXIVM and assisting the FBI in bringing down NXIVM cult leader Keith Raniere, who earlier this year was convicted on all counts after a jaw-dropping trial.
In this episode, we discuss:
Catherine's initial objection to ESP (the training that would become NXIVM)
What the 'therapy' part of NXIVM's training looked like
Why she eventually stopped taking classes
What happened when Catherine realized India was in over her head
How Catherine snapped into action to deliver a plan that would not only pull her daughter out, but would put Keith behind bars
What Catherine learned for the first time watching the trial
And more... Special Guest: Catherine Oxenberg.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>catherine oxenberg, cults, sects, religions, yoga, Rick Alan Ross, Karen Geier, NXIVM, coercion, belief, Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Nancy Saltzman</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Catherine Oxenberg candidly reveals details of her daughter&#39;s time spent in NXIVM and assisting the FBI in bringing down NXIVM cult leader Keith Raniere, who earlier this year was convicted on all counts after a jaw-dropping trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Catherine&#39;s initial objection to ESP (the training that would become NXIVM)</li>
<li>What the &#39;therapy&#39; part of NXIVM&#39;s training looked like</li>
<li>Why she eventually stopped taking classes</li>
<li>What happened when Catherine realized India was in over her head</li>
<li>How Catherine snapped into action to deliver a plan that would not only pull her daughter out, but would put Keith behind bars</li>
<li>What Catherine learned for the first time watching the trial</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Catherine Oxenberg.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Catherine Oxenberg candidly reveals details of her daughter&#39;s time spent in NXIVM and assisting the FBI in bringing down NXIVM cult leader Keith Raniere, who earlier this year was convicted on all counts after a jaw-dropping trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Catherine&#39;s initial objection to ESP (the training that would become NXIVM)</li>
<li>What the &#39;therapy&#39; part of NXIVM&#39;s training looked like</li>
<li>Why she eventually stopped taking classes</li>
<li>What happened when Catherine realized India was in over her head</li>
<li>How Catherine snapped into action to deliver a plan that would not only pull her daughter out, but would put Keith behind bars</li>
<li>What Catherine learned for the first time watching the trial</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Catherine Oxenberg.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Catherine Oxenberg</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 117: De-Programming With Mia Donovan</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/117</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2019 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>117</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>De-Programming With Mia Donovan</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Director of Deprogrammed, Mia Donovan, joins me to talk about the Godfather of De-programming, Ted Patrick, who 'De-programmed' her step-brother when he was 14 years old. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:22</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Mia Donovan discusses with me:
What were the conditions that led to the discovery of De-Programming?
Who was Ted Patrick?
What were Ted's credentials
Ted began his career working on his own son
What techniques did Ted discover?
Why was Ted repeatedly sued and brought up on charges?
And more... Special Guest: Mia Donovan.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>cults, brainwashing, deprogramming, ted patrick, mia donovan</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Mia Donovan discusses with me:</p>

<ul>
<li>What were the conditions that led to the discovery of De-Programming?</li>
<li>Who was Ted Patrick?</li>
<li>What were Ted&#39;s credentials</li>
<li>Ted began his career working on his own son</li>
<li>What techniques did Ted discover?</li>
<li>Why was Ted repeatedly sued and brought up on charges?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Mia Donovan.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Mia Donovan discusses with me:</p>

<ul>
<li>What were the conditions that led to the discovery of De-Programming?</li>
<li>Who was Ted Patrick?</li>
<li>What were Ted&#39;s credentials</li>
<li>Ted began his career working on his own son</li>
<li>What techniques did Ted discover?</li>
<li>Why was Ted repeatedly sued and brought up on charges?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Mia Donovan.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://miadonovan.com" role="guest">Mia Donovan</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 116: Jehovah's Witnesses Part 2 with Jerry Minor</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/116</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 20 Aug 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>116</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Jehovah's Witnesses Part 2 with Jerry Minor</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Jerry Minor (SNL, Mr. Show, Arrested Development) joins me today to discuss his time in the witnesses and the rather unusual way he got out.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:01</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/e23b90dd-5fc5-4cb9-9efe-5175f85eedf5/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Before Jerry Minor was a successful actor in Los Angeles, he was a boy growing up in the Jehovah's Witnesses. In this episode we discuss:
What it feels like to have one parent in the Witnesses and one parent outside
What kinds of pressures are put on Witness kids
How real the threats of the Apocalypse and Demons are
What he knew about the child abuse scandals that have plagued the witnesses
What he knew about Jehovah's Witnesses lobbying the government for consideration
And more...
Content warning: there is a brief mention of suicidal ideation
You can listen to Jerry's podcast here (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cult-awareness-podcast/id1473344702) Special Guest: Jerry Minor.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah, Ex-JW, Apostate</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Before Jerry Minor was a successful actor in Los Angeles, he was a boy growing up in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses. In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it feels like to have one parent in the Witnesses and one parent outside</li>
<li>What kinds of pressures are put on Witness kids</li>
<li>How real the threats of the Apocalypse and Demons are</li>
<li>What he knew about the child abuse scandals that have plagued the witnesses</li>
<li>What he knew about Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses lobbying the government for consideration</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Content warning: there is a brief mention of suicidal ideation</p>

<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cult-awareness-podcast/id1473344702" rel="nofollow">You can listen to Jerry&#39;s podcast here</a></p><p>Special Guest: Jerry Minor.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Before Jerry Minor was a successful actor in Los Angeles, he was a boy growing up in the Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses. In this episode we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What it feels like to have one parent in the Witnesses and one parent outside</li>
<li>What kinds of pressures are put on Witness kids</li>
<li>How real the threats of the Apocalypse and Demons are</li>
<li>What he knew about the child abuse scandals that have plagued the witnesses</li>
<li>What he knew about Jehovah&#39;s Witnesses lobbying the government for consideration</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Content warning: there is a brief mention of suicidal ideation</p>

<p><a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cult-awareness-podcast/id1473344702" rel="nofollow">You can listen to Jerry&#39;s podcast here</a></p><p>Special Guest: Jerry Minor.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cult-awareness-podcast/id1473344702" role="guest">Jerry Minor</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 115: Jehovah's Witnesses Part 1 with Dawn Wilburn-Saboe</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/115</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Aug 2019 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>115</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Jehovah's Witnesses Part 1 with Dawn Wilburn-Saboe</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>If your only exposure to the Jehovah's Witnesses has been at your door when they've been recruiting, you might not know about the rather extreme belief system Witnesses are forced to adhere to under threat of Disfellowshipment. My guest today describes her live inside and out of the Witnesses.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:28</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/d/dc0e6d32-4513-4cda-94ba-28533ec5ce0b/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, guest Dawn Wilburn-Saboe explains what life was like in the witnesses, how traumatic and painful the process of disfellowshipment is, and what life is like on the other side. 
We discuss:
How children are expected to contribute in services
How children are expected to live
What it's like to be 'the kid who has to sit in the hall for the national anthem'
What it's like to be a teen in the Witnesses
What it's like to have to answer to elders for normal sexual exploration
What it's like to be disfellowshipped
And more... Special Guest: Dawn Wilburn-Saboe.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>Jehovah's Witnesses, Jehovah, Ex-JW, Apostate</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, guest Dawn Wilburn-Saboe explains what life was like in the witnesses, how traumatic and painful the process of disfellowshipment is, and what life is like on the other side. </p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How children are expected to contribute in services</li>
<li>How children are expected to live</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be &#39;the kid who has to sit in the hall for the national anthem&#39;</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be a teen in the Witnesses</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to have to answer to elders for normal sexual exploration</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be disfellowshipped</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Dawn Wilburn-Saboe.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, guest Dawn Wilburn-Saboe explains what life was like in the witnesses, how traumatic and painful the process of disfellowshipment is, and what life is like on the other side. </p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How children are expected to contribute in services</li>
<li>How children are expected to live</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be &#39;the kid who has to sit in the hall for the national anthem&#39;</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be a teen in the Witnesses</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to have to answer to elders for normal sexual exploration</li>
<li>What it&#39;s like to be disfellowshipped</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Dawn Wilburn-Saboe.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Dawn Wilburn-Saboe</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 114: Quiverfull with Guest Heather Doney</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/114</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2019 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/dc7ca134-9051-4eb4-bef8-5fe0f7f47ff9.mp3" length="30298615" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>114</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Quiverfull with Guest Heather Doney</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Heather Doney was raised in the Quiverfull belief system while living in New Orleans and peeking out her backyard at the sights of Mardi Gras.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:46</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>In this episode, Heather Doney, raised in Quiverfull explains:
What homeschooling was like for her
The burdens and fears of children responsible for their younger (and infant) siblings
What kinds of strains are put on Quiverfull families
How boys and girls are raised differently
Why Quiverfull families eschew medicine, even when it can save a mother's life
And more... Special Guest: Heather Doney.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>Fundamentalism, fundies, Christians, Evangelicals, Bible, Biblical Patriarchy, Quiverfull, Heather Doney</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Heather Doney, raised in Quiverfull explains:</p>

<ul>
<li>What homeschooling was like for her</li>
<li>The burdens and fears of children responsible for their younger (and infant) siblings</li>
<li>What kinds of strains are put on Quiverfull families</li>
<li>How boys and girls are raised differently</li>
<li>Why Quiverfull families eschew medicine, even when it can save a mother&#39;s life</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Heather Doney.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Heather Doney, raised in Quiverfull explains:</p>

<ul>
<li>What homeschooling was like for her</li>
<li>The burdens and fears of children responsible for their younger (and infant) siblings</li>
<li>What kinds of strains are put on Quiverfull families</li>
<li>How boys and girls are raised differently</li>
<li>Why Quiverfull families eschew medicine, even when it can save a mother&#39;s life</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Heather Doney.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Heather Doney</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 113: Quiverfull with Guest Kathryn Joyce</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/113</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2019 11:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/e15571b8-42fa-4f76-928f-de5ea2edce2d.mp3" length="29965084" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>113</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Quiverfull with Guest Kathryn Joyce</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Quiverfull is more than just 'the fundies next door with a lot of kids.' The world view, based heavily on Biblical Patriarchy, is a high demand lifestyle for women and girls, and that sometimes has dire consequences.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:36</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/e15571b8-42fa-4f76-928f-de5ea2edce2d/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, Kathryn Joyce, author of Quiverfull: Inside The Christian Patriarchy Movement (https://www.amazon.com/Quiverfull-Inside-Christian-Patriarchy-Movement-ebook/dp/B0029Y76I4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=quiverfull+kathryn+joyce&amp;qid=1564500045&amp;s=gateway&amp;sr=8-1) (ASIN: B0029Y76I4)
Discusses what Quivefull followers actually believe. We discuss:
Where is church for Quiverfull families?
What is "Home Churching?"
Why is Homeschooling so important to these families?
Why Quiverfull families are distrustful of the government
Why some families live desperately close to the poverty line
And more... Special Guest: Kathryn Joyce.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>Fundamentalism, fundies, Christians, Evangelicals, Bible, Biblical Patriarchy, Quiverfull, Kathryn Joyce</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Kathryn Joyce, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Quiverfull-Inside-Christian-Patriarchy-Movement-ebook/dp/B0029Y76I4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=quiverfull+kathryn+joyce&qid=1564500045&s=gateway&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Quiverfull: Inside The Christian Patriarchy Movement</a> (ASIN: B0029Y76I4)</p>

<p>Discusses what Quivefull followers actually believe. We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Where is church for Quiverfull families?</li>
<li>What is &quot;Home Churching?&quot;</li>
<li>Why is Homeschooling so important to these families?</li>
<li>Why Quiverfull families are distrustful of the government</li>
<li>Why some families live desperately close to the poverty line</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Kathryn Joyce.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Kathryn Joyce, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Quiverfull-Inside-Christian-Patriarchy-Movement-ebook/dp/B0029Y76I4/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=quiverfull+kathryn+joyce&qid=1564500045&s=gateway&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Quiverfull: Inside The Christian Patriarchy Movement</a> (ASIN: B0029Y76I4)</p>

<p>Discusses what Quivefull followers actually believe. We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>Where is church for Quiverfull families?</li>
<li>What is &quot;Home Churching?&quot;</li>
<li>Why is Homeschooling so important to these families?</li>
<li>Why Quiverfull families are distrustful of the government</li>
<li>Why some families live desperately close to the poverty line</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Kathryn Joyce.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Kathryn Joyce</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 111: Cult Hopping &amp; NXIVM Trial Update With Guest EJ Dickson</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/111</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jul 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>111</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Cult Hopping &amp; NXIVM Trial Update With Guest EJ Dickson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>EJ Dickson covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone and discovered a phenomenon among those who leave cults: some of them move to other cults.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:31</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.
In this episode, we discuss:
    The lurid nature of the testimony
    Surprises revealed in court
    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith
    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting
    How people cult hop
    What makes a person cult hop
    And more... Special Guest: EJ Dickson.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, Rick Alan Ross, Karen Geier, NXIVM, coercion, belief, Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Nancy Salzman, EJ Dickson</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    The lurid nature of the testimony</li>
<li>    Surprises revealed in court</li>
<li>    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith</li>
<li>    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting</li>
<li>    How people cult hop</li>
<li>    What makes a person cult hop</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: EJ Dickson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Guest EJ Dickson, who covered the NXIVM trial for Rolling Stone joins me to discuss the details of the trial and a phenomenon known as cult hopping, which she was made aware of from some people who testified at the NXIVM trial.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    The lurid nature of the testimony</li>
<li>    Surprises revealed in court</li>
<li>    Whether key figures are still supportive of Keith</li>
<li>    Whether these verdicts are precedent-setting</li>
<li>    How people cult hop</li>
<li>    What makes a person cult hop</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: EJ Dickson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.rollingstone.com/author/ej-dickson/" role="guest">EJ Dickson</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 110: Falun Gong With Guest Ben Hurley</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2019 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>110</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Falun Gong With Guest Ben Hurley</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Ben Hurley was once a devout Falun Gong practitioner who worked for the sect's media arm The Epoch Times. Find out what drew him in and why he ultimately left.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:20</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/e/eac172fb-a870-4cb0-8c52-6c0e5ef919c7/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>In this episode, Ben Hurley unmasks the Falun Gong and explains why it is so appealing to so many.
We discuss:
How a walk in the park set him on his journey
What the feeling of meditation is like for him
What the Falun Gong believe
What kind of leader Li Hongzhi was
How Shen Yun is the pretty face for Falun Gong
What happens when Shen Yun rolls into town
And more Special Guest: Ben Hurley.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>falun gong, falun dafa, li honghzhi, china, chinese government, organ harvesting, self immolation, terrorism, tai chi, qiqong</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ben Hurley unmasks the Falun Gong and explains why it is so appealing to so many.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How a walk in the park set him on his journey</li>
<li>What the feeling of meditation is like for him</li>
<li>What the Falun Gong believe</li>
<li>What kind of leader Li Hongzhi was</li>
<li>How Shen Yun is the pretty face for Falun Gong</li>
<li>What happens when Shen Yun rolls into town</li>
<li>And more</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Ben Hurley.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ben Hurley unmasks the Falun Gong and explains why it is so appealing to so many.</p>

<p>We discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>How a walk in the park set him on his journey</li>
<li>What the feeling of meditation is like for him</li>
<li>What the Falun Gong believe</li>
<li>What kind of leader Li Hongzhi was</li>
<li>How Shen Yun is the pretty face for Falun Gong</li>
<li>What happens when Shen Yun rolls into town</li>
<li>And more</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Ben Hurley.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Ben Hurley</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 109: FLDS with Guests Leona Bateman and Briell Decker Blanchart</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/109</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2019 10:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>109</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>FLDS with Guests Leona Bateman and Briell Decker Blanchart</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Leona Bateman and Briell Decker Blanchart discuss what life is like for them out of the FLDS and how they've dedicated their lives to making the exit easier for others.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>17:11</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/2/27f3d14d-b8a3-4076-9cc9-ae6338e710c2/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Leona Bateman, founder of the Creekers Foundation, and Briell Decker Blanchart, board member of the Short Creek Dream Center join me to discuss their lives in and out of FLDS, and how they're helping others transition out.
In this episode, we discuss:
What courtship training is like
How marriages in FLDS are arranged
How questioning couples discuss their doubts with each other
What happens when you get engaged to Warren Jeffs
How people escape
What life is like after you leave the FLDS
And more... Special Guests: Briell Decker Blanchart and Leona Bateman.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>FLDS, LDS, Mormons, Latter Day Saints, Rulon Jeffs, Warren Jeffs, Lyle Jeffs, Short Creek, Utah, exmormon</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Leona Bateman, founder of the Creekers Foundation, and Briell Decker Blanchart, board member of the Short Creek Dream Center join me to discuss their lives in and out of FLDS, and how they&#39;re helping others transition out.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What courtship training is like</li>
<li>How marriages in FLDS are arranged</li>
<li>How questioning couples discuss their doubts with each other</li>
<li>What happens when you get engaged to Warren Jeffs</li>
<li>How people escape</li>
<li>What life is like after you leave the FLDS</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Briell Decker Blanchart and Leona Bateman.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Leona Bateman, founder of the Creekers Foundation, and Briell Decker Blanchart, board member of the Short Creek Dream Center join me to discuss their lives in and out of FLDS, and how they&#39;re helping others transition out.</p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>What courtship training is like</li>
<li>How marriages in FLDS are arranged</li>
<li>How questioning couples discuss their doubts with each other</li>
<li>What happens when you get engaged to Warren Jeffs</li>
<li>How people escape</li>
<li>What life is like after you leave the FLDS</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Briell Decker Blanchart and Leona Bateman.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.shortcreekdreamcenter.org/" role="guest">Briell Decker Blanchart</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.creekersutah.com/" role="guest">Leona Bateman</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 108: FLDS with Guest Brenda Nicholson</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/108</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2019 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>108</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>FLDS with Guest Brenda Nicholson</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Content warning: Contains discussion of suicide

Guest Brenda Nicholson joins us to discuss her time in and out of FLDS</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>19:57</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/b/bf11f14d-f778-4e40-9eb4-79a54611766f/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Brenda Nicholson grew up in FLDS under Rulon Jeffs and eventually under the rule of Warren Jeffs.
While there are many shows about FLDS, Brenda gives us her unique story and insights into the inner workings of the FLDS and how she got out. 
In this episode, we discuss:
    How her family got into the FLDS movement
    What it was like being a student of Warren Jeffs
    How marriage in FLDS works
    How the rules were enforced
    What happened when a new rule was introduced
    And more... Special Guest: Brenda Nicholson.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>FLDS, LDS, Mormons, Latter Day Saints, Rulon Jeffs, Warren Jeffs, Lyle Jeffs, Short Creek, Utah, exmormon</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Brenda Nicholson grew up in FLDS under Rulon Jeffs and eventually under the rule of Warren Jeffs.</p>

<p>While there are many shows about FLDS, Brenda gives us her unique story and insights into the inner workings of the FLDS and how she got out. </p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    How her family got into the FLDS movement</li>
<li>    What it was like being a student of Warren Jeffs</li>
<li>    How marriage in FLDS works</li>
<li>    How the rules were enforced</li>
<li>    What happened when a new rule was introduced</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Brenda Nicholson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Brenda Nicholson grew up in FLDS under Rulon Jeffs and eventually under the rule of Warren Jeffs.</p>

<p>While there are many shows about FLDS, Brenda gives us her unique story and insights into the inner workings of the FLDS and how she got out. </p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>    How her family got into the FLDS movement</li>
<li>    What it was like being a student of Warren Jeffs</li>
<li>    How marriage in FLDS works</li>
<li>    How the rules were enforced</li>
<li>    What happened when a new rule was introduced</li>
<li>    And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Brenda Nicholson.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Brenda Nicholson</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 107: Hillsong with Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/107</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2019 05:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>107</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Hillsong with Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>You may know Hillsong for its celebrity followers, or for the Instagram presence of its tattooed preacher Carl Lentz, but what you may not know about Hillsong is it has a very chequered past.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>15:34</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/a/ab0039ca-7eb1-494f-92e2-df30d620db60/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin join me to discuss Millennial Mega Church of the stars, Hillsong.
In this episode, find out:
The church's strict Pentecostal origins
How a trip to America dramatically changed the focus of the church by its founders
How Hillsong solicits money
Where the money goes
What secrets are Hillsong leaders hoping will be contained within Australia's borders
And more... Special Guests: Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>hillsong, bobbie houston, brian houston, frank houston, carl lentz, justin bieber, vanessa hudgens, chris pratt, pentecostalism, fundamentalism, gay rights, child abuse</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin join me to discuss Millennial Mega Church of the stars, Hillsong.</p>

<p>In this episode, find out:</p>

<ul>
<li>The church&#39;s strict Pentecostal origins</li>
<li>How a trip to America dramatically changed the focus of the church by its founders</li>
<li>How Hillsong solicits money</li>
<li>Where the money goes</li>
<li>What secrets are Hillsong leaders hoping will be contained within Australia&#39;s borders</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Guests Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin join me to discuss Millennial Mega Church of the stars, Hillsong.</p>

<p>In this episode, find out:</p>

<ul>
<li>The church&#39;s strict Pentecostal origins</li>
<li>How a trip to America dramatically changed the focus of the church by its founders</li>
<li>How Hillsong solicits money</li>
<li>Where the money goes</li>
<li>What secrets are Hillsong leaders hoping will be contained within Australia&#39;s borders</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Lea Ceasrine, Rick Alan Ross, and Tanya Levin.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://leaceas.wordpress.com/" role="guest">Lea Ceasrine</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://culteducation.com/" role="guest">Rick Alan Ross</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://www.tanyalevin.com/" role="guest">Tanya Levin</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 106: Large Group Awareness Training With Guests █████, ███████, &amp; █████</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/106</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2019 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/3d0debb8-f9b1-4854-88b6-392f3766ca26.mp3" length="30294017" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>106</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Large Group Awareness Training With Guests █████, ███████, &amp; █████</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>What is Large Group Awareness Training? It's a form of group "therapy" that promises it can cure almost anything going wrong in your life. It's so ubiquitous, some major corporations pay for their staff to take the courses.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>21:02</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/3/3d0debb8-f9b1-4854-88b6-392f3766ca26/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>Large Group Awareness Training is on the rise. We live in a time when decreasing religious adherence, a growing need for order and rules in one's life and a sense of complete entitlement have combined to make the allure of LGATs nearly irresistible.
I spoke with 3 ex members of Large Group Awareness training students about their experiences. They explained:
Why anyone would tell a group of strangers about the worst day of their lives
How meditation, team building exercises and attack therapy combine to make people feel invincible
How these groups give students a sense of euphoria, then ask them to sign up for more courses
What happens as you progress through the ranks at LGATs
What the ultimate goal is for LGATs
And more... Special Guests: Alan Smithee, Jane Doe, and Marty Flipman.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, Alan Smithee, Jane Doe, Marty Flipman, Karen Geier, group therapy, meditation, team building, coercion, belief</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Large Group Awareness Training is on the rise. We live in a time when decreasing religious adherence, a growing need for order and rules in one&#39;s life and a sense of complete entitlement have combined to make the allure of LGATs nearly irresistible.</p>

<p>I spoke with 3 ex members of Large Group Awareness training students about their experiences. They explained:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why anyone would tell a group of strangers about the worst day of their lives</li>
<li>How meditation, team building exercises and attack therapy combine to make people feel invincible</li>
<li>How these groups give students a sense of euphoria, then ask them to sign up for more courses</li>
<li>What happens as you progress through the ranks at LGATs</li>
<li>What the ultimate goal is for LGATs</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Alan Smithee, Jane Doe, and Marty Flipman.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Large Group Awareness Training is on the rise. We live in a time when decreasing religious adherence, a growing need for order and rules in one&#39;s life and a sense of complete entitlement have combined to make the allure of LGATs nearly irresistible.</p>

<p>I spoke with 3 ex members of Large Group Awareness training students about their experiences. They explained:</p>

<ul>
<li>Why anyone would tell a group of strangers about the worst day of their lives</li>
<li>How meditation, team building exercises and attack therapy combine to make people feel invincible</li>
<li>How these groups give students a sense of euphoria, then ask them to sign up for more courses</li>
<li>What happens as you progress through the ranks at LGATs</li>
<li>What the ultimate goal is for LGATs</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Alan Smithee, Jane Doe, and Marty Flipman.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://www.aol.com" role="guest">Alan Smithee</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Jane Doe</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://goatse.cx" role="guest">Marty Flipman</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 105: Messianic Jews with Guest Rabbi Michael Skobac</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/105</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 04 Jun 2019 09:30:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>105</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Messianic Jews with Guest Rabbi Michael Skobac</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>Rabbi Michael Skobac from Jews for Judaism (https://jewsforjudaism.org/staff/rabbi-michael-skobac/) joins me to discuss what the heck Messianic Judaism means</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:11</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>If you've ever wondered what Jews For Jesus or other groups in the Messianic Judaism extended universe actually believe. 
In this episode, we discuss:
The origins of Messianic Judaism
How Messianic Jewish groups recruit
How Messianic Jewish groups appropriate Jewish symbols and give them a Christian spin
What Messianic Jewish groups actually believe
Is there harm to the Jewish community?
And more... Special Guest: Rabbi Michael Skobac.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>jews, jewish, judaism, jeshua, jesus, christianity, christians, evangelism, evangelical, fundamentalists, rabbi michael skobac, karen geier</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If you&#39;ve ever wondered what Jews For Jesus or other groups in the Messianic Judaism extended universe actually believe. </p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The origins of Messianic Judaism</li>
<li>How Messianic Jewish groups recruit</li>
<li>How Messianic Jewish groups appropriate Jewish symbols and give them a Christian spin</li>
<li>What Messianic Jewish groups actually believe</li>
<li>Is there harm to the Jewish community?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Rabbi Michael Skobac.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>If you&#39;ve ever wondered what Jews For Jesus or other groups in the Messianic Judaism extended universe actually believe. </p>

<p>In this episode, we discuss:</p>

<ul>
<li>The origins of Messianic Judaism</li>
<li>How Messianic Jewish groups recruit</li>
<li>How Messianic Jewish groups appropriate Jewish symbols and give them a Christian spin</li>
<li>What Messianic Jewish groups actually believe</li>
<li>Is there harm to the Jewish community?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Rabbi Michael Skobac.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://jewsforjudaism.org" role="guest">Rabbi Michael Skobac</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 104: Aum Shinrikyo with Guest Sarah Hightower</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2019 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>104</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>Aum Shinrikyo with Guest Sarah Hightower</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>The story of the Aum affair may seem like a uniquely Japanese event, but the reality is that it could have happened anywhere. Sarah Hightower joins us to explain why.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>16:37</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Content warning: Frank discussion of abuse and murder
You may vaguely remember the Tokyo Subway Sarin attack, but that's not where the Aum Shinrikyo story begins or ends. 
Guest Sarah Hightower explains:
How Shoko Asahara was an opportunist and bully from childhood
How Asahara was a multiple time grifter before settling on creating a cult
The day-to-day lives of adherents
What Poa was
Why a failed bid to intall Aum members in Japanese Parliament spurred Asahara to pursue chemical and biological weapons
And more...
Special Guest: Sarah Hightower.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, aum shinrikyo, shoko asahara, sarah hightower, karen geier, sarin, terrorism, biological weapons, chemical weapons, dirty bombs, poisoning</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Content warning: Frank discussion of abuse and murder</p>

<p>You may vaguely remember the Tokyo Subway Sarin attack, but that&#39;s not where the Aum Shinrikyo story begins or ends. </p>

<p>Guest Sarah Hightower explains:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Shoko Asahara was an opportunist and bully from childhood</li>
<li>How Asahara was a multiple time grifter before settling on creating a cult</li>
<li>The day-to-day lives of adherents</li>
<li>What Poa was</li>
<li>Why a failed bid to intall Aum members in Japanese Parliament spurred Asahara to pursue chemical and biological weapons</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Sarah Hightower.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Content warning: Frank discussion of abuse and murder</p>

<p>You may vaguely remember the Tokyo Subway Sarin attack, but that&#39;s not where the Aum Shinrikyo story begins or ends. </p>

<p>Guest Sarah Hightower explains:</p>

<ul>
<li>How Shoko Asahara was an opportunist and bully from childhood</li>
<li>How Asahara was a multiple time grifter before settling on creating a cult</li>
<li>The day-to-day lives of adherents</li>
<li>What Poa was</li>
<li>Why a failed bid to intall Aum members in Japanese Parliament spurred Asahara to pursue chemical and biological weapons</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul><p>Special Guest: Sarah Hightower.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="guest">Sarah Hightower</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 103: The Family with Guest Chris Johnston</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>103</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>The Family with Guest Chris Johnston</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>*UNLOCKED EPISODE TO COMMEMORATE ANNE HAMILTON-BYRNE'S DEATH*
Chris Johnston, journalist and author of the book The Family joins us to discuss this dark chapter in Australian history. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:27</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>Content Warning:  Frank discussion of child abuse
In this episode, Chris Johnston tells us:
Who was Anne Hamilton-Byrne?
How did she grow her cult out of a well-placed yoga studio?
How Anne took advantage of countercultre symbols like mysticism and LSD and used them to target rich conservatives
How Anne was able to grow her brood of children
How The Family evaded police and the homeschooling authorities
What happened to the children of The Family?
And more...
Buy Chris' book: https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673 Special Guest: Chris Johnston.
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      <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, Chris Johnston, Karen Geier, Scientology, coercion, belief, deprogramming, metaphysicd, child abuse, LSD</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Content Warning:  Frank discussion of child abuse</p>

<p>In this episode, Chris Johnston tells us:</p>

<ul>
<li>Who was Anne Hamilton-Byrne?</li>
<li>How did she grow her cult out of a well-placed yoga studio?</li>
<li>How Anne took advantage of countercultre symbols like mysticism and LSD and used them to target rich conservatives</li>
<li>How Anne was able to grow her brood of children</li>
<li>How The Family evaded police and the homeschooling authorities</li>
<li>What happened to the children of The Family?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Buy Chris&#39; book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673</a></p><p>Special Guest: Chris Johnston.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Content Warning:  Frank discussion of child abuse</p>

<p>In this episode, Chris Johnston tells us:</p>

<ul>
<li>Who was Anne Hamilton-Byrne?</li>
<li>How did she grow her cult out of a well-placed yoga studio?</li>
<li>How Anne took advantage of countercultre symbols like mysticism and LSD and used them to target rich conservatives</li>
<li>How Anne was able to grow her brood of children</li>
<li>How The Family evaded police and the homeschooling authorities</li>
<li>What happened to the children of The Family?</li>
<li>And more...</li>
</ul>

<p>Buy Chris&#39; book: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673" rel="nofollow">https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673</a></p><p>Special Guest: Chris Johnston.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.amazon.com/Family-shocking-true-story-notorious/dp/1925321673" role="guest">Chris Johnston</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 102: NXIVM With Guest Brock Wilbur</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/102</link>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 14 May 2019 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
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      <itunes:episode>102</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>NXIVM With Guest Brock Wilbur</itunes:title>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>UNLOCKED FULL EPISODE. 

Content Warning: Episode contains frank discussion of sexual and other forms of abuse.

Brock Wilbur joins me to discuss when he was inadvertently recruited by a division of NXIVM and how that lead him to investigate the cult. 

Little did he know what he would encounter. 

Brock discusses his unique insights into the trial of Keith Raniere.

</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:00:03</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>yes</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://assets.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/8/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/episodes/1/1853ea99-cdfc-438b-a5f7-f7fde873061e/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.
We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**
Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. 
Brock discusses what it's like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult
Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM
Who is Keith Raniere?
Who is Nancy Salzman?
Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?
What does Keith Raniere's trial hold? Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.
</description>
      <itunes:keywords>cults, sects, religions, yoga, Rick Alan Ross, Karen Geier, NXIVM, coercion, belief, Keith Raniere, Allison Mack, Nancy Salzman</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.</p>

<p>We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**</p>

<p>Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. </p>

<ul>
<li>Brock discusses what it&#39;s like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult</li>
<li>Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM</li>
<li>Who is Keith Raniere?</li>
<li>Who is Nancy Salzman?</li>
<li>Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?</li>
<li>What does Keith Raniere&#39;s trial hold?</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>**A change has been made to this episode. Two sentences not materially important to the content of the episode have been removed to comply with a nastygram from a law firm representing a particularly litigious group which, while not directly referenced in the episode, are related to the group previously mentioned in this episode.  The group in question is in no way affiliated with NXIVM.</p>

<p>We at On Belief would like to thank the intern at the law firm for their patronage in the $5 tier.**</p>

<p>Brock Wilbur sits down to discuss how he became aware of Keith Raniere and NXIVM and what he has uncovered so far. </p>

<ul>
<li>Brock discusses what it&#39;s like to worry for years you might be sued into oblivion by a cult</li>
<li>Brock describes some little-known facts about the inner workings of NXIVM</li>
<li>Who is Keith Raniere?</li>
<li>Who is Nancy Salzman?</li>
<li>Which organizations were used as fronts for NXIVM?</li>
<li>What does Keith Raniere&#39;s trial hold?</li>
</ul><p>Special Guests: Brock Wilbur and Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="http://onbelief.com" role="host">Karen Geier</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://brockwilbur.com/" role="guest">Brock Wilbur</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="http://culteducation.com/" role="guest">Rick Alan Ross</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 101: What IS a Cult? An Interview with Rick Alan Ross of the Cult Education Institute</title>
      <link>https://onbelief.fireside.fm/101</link>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 19 Apr 2019 14:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>Karen Geier</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/807fa736-51a6-477e-a827-d06def8b52e5/35b73638-eb38-4041-b2b3-b446ce9cca50.mp3" length="24639447" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episode>101</itunes:episode>
      <itunes:title>What IS a Cult? An Interview with Rick Alan Ross of the Cult Education Institute</itunes:title>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Karen Geier</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In the first episode, Rick Alan Ross explains what cults are, how leaders entice and ensnare folks, what the profile is of a person who is susceptible to cults, and how friends and family can help those affected by harmful groups.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>12:49</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>no</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>We delve into the mechanics of cults: 
What are the specific warning signs of cults?
How do you know if your yoga class is a front for a cult?
What does cult recruitment look like now vs other points in history?
Which groups are the greatest threat to the most people today?
This week's episode is an interview with cult expert Rick Alan Ross of the Cult Education Institute. http://culteducation.com/
More in-depth notes and links for this episode are available at http://onbelief.com
Special Guest: Rick Alan Ross.
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>We delve into the mechanics of cults: </p>

<ul>
<li>What are the specific warning signs of cults?</li>
<li>How do you know if your yoga class is a front for a cult?</li>
<li>What does cult recruitment look like now vs other points in history?</li>
<li>Which groups are the greatest threat to the most people today?</li>
</ul>

<p>This week&#39;s episode is an interview with cult expert Rick Alan Ross of the Cult Education Institute. <a href="http://culteducation.com/" rel="nofollow">http://culteducation.com/</a></p>

<h3>More in-depth notes and links for this episode are available at <a href="http://onbelief.com" rel="nofollow">http://onbelief.com</a></h3><p>Special Guest: Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We delve into the mechanics of cults: </p>

<ul>
<li>What are the specific warning signs of cults?</li>
<li>How do you know if your yoga class is a front for a cult?</li>
<li>What does cult recruitment look like now vs other points in history?</li>
<li>Which groups are the greatest threat to the most people today?</li>
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<p>This week&#39;s episode is an interview with cult expert Rick Alan Ross of the Cult Education Institute. <a href="http://culteducation.com/" rel="nofollow">http://culteducation.com/</a></p>

<h3>More in-depth notes and links for this episode are available at <a href="http://onbelief.com" rel="nofollow">http://onbelief.com</a></h3><p>Special Guest: Rick Alan Ross.</p><p><a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/karengeier">Support On Belief: A Podcast About Cults</a></p>]]>
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