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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euchre" rel="nofollow">Euchre </a><br>
<a href="https://site.aace.org/conf/" rel="nofollow">SITE Conference</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euchre" rel="nofollow">Euchre </a><br>
<a href="https://site.aace.org/conf/" rel="nofollow">SITE Conference</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euchre" rel="nofollow">Euchre </a><br>
<a href="https://site.aace.org/conf/" rel="nofollow">SITE Conference</a></p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81758849" rel="nofollow">How to Get to Heaven from Belfast</a><br>
<a href="https://racingmountpleasant.com/" rel="nofollow">Racing Mount Pleasant</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81758849" rel="nofollow">How to Get to Heaven from Belfast</a><br>
<a href="https://racingmountpleasant.com/" rel="nofollow">Racing Mount Pleasant</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss technology, pedagogy, and what our future classrooms could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81758849" rel="nofollow">How to Get to Heaven from Belfast</a><br>
<a href="https://racingmountpleasant.com/" rel="nofollow">Racing Mount Pleasant</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 288: Can You Accommodate Us?</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accommodations for students who need them and their increasing number in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/180270.Ammonite" rel="nofollow">Ammonite</a> by Nicola Griffith<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223420465-king-sorrow" rel="nofollow">King Sorrow</a> by Joe Hill</p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accommodations for students who need them and their increasing number in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/180270.Ammonite" rel="nofollow">Ammonite</a> by Nicola Griffith<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223420465-king-sorrow" rel="nofollow">King Sorrow</a> by Joe Hill</p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accommodations for students who need them and their increasing number in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/180270.Ammonite" rel="nofollow">Ammonite</a> by Nicola Griffith<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223420465-king-sorrow" rel="nofollow">King Sorrow</a> by Joe Hill</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 287: AI Very Special Episode</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460097/the-city-and-its-uncertain-walls-by-murakami-haruki/9781787304475" rel="nofollow">The City and Its Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/117447/charles-yu/" rel="nofollow">Author Charles Yu</a> <br>
<a href="https://marymount.edu/academics/college-of-business-innovation-leadership-and-technology/school-of-design-and-art/cody-gallery/current-exhibition/sanah-brown-bowers-the-joy-lab/#gsc.tab=0" rel="nofollow">The Joy Lab</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guests: Elizabeth Langran, Paula Cristina Azevedo, and Shernette Dunn.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460097/the-city-and-its-uncertain-walls-by-murakami-haruki/9781787304475" rel="nofollow">The City and Its Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/117447/charles-yu/" rel="nofollow">Author Charles Yu</a> <br>
<a href="https://marymount.edu/academics/college-of-business-innovation-leadership-and-technology/school-of-design-and-art/cody-gallery/current-exhibition/sanah-brown-bowers-the-joy-lab/#gsc.tab=0" rel="nofollow">The Joy Lab</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guests: Elizabeth Langran, Paula Cristina Azevedo, and Shernette Dunn.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how qualitative researchers are using AI with Dr. Elizabeth Langran, Dr. Paula Cristina Azevdo, and Dr. Shernette Dunn.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/460097/the-city-and-its-uncertain-walls-by-murakami-haruki/9781787304475" rel="nofollow">The City and Its Uncertain Walls by Haruki Murakami</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/117447/charles-yu/" rel="nofollow">Author Charles Yu</a> <br>
<a href="https://marymount.edu/academics/college-of-business-innovation-leadership-and-technology/school-of-design-and-art/cody-gallery/current-exhibition/sanah-brown-bowers-the-joy-lab/#gsc.tab=0" rel="nofollow">The Joy Lab</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guests: Elizabeth Langran, Paula Cristina Azevedo, and Shernette Dunn.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 286: How Competent Are We?</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23743442/" rel="nofollow">Traitors UK</a> on Peacock<br>
Trumpet Ensemble</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23743442/" rel="nofollow">Traitors UK</a> on Peacock<br>
Trumpet Ensemble</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss teacher education competencies and how they are used to structure requirements and thus courses at universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23743442/" rel="nofollow">Traitors UK</a> on Peacock<br>
Trumpet Ensemble</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 285: Take Me to Your Leader</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor for the Department of Education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor at the PA Department of Education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12637874/" rel="nofollow">Fallout series on Amazon</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/if_i_had_legs_id_kick_you" rel="nofollow">If I Had Legs I&#39;d Kick You</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor at the PA Department of Education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12637874/" rel="nofollow">Fallout series on Amazon</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/if_i_had_legs_id_kick_you" rel="nofollow">If I Had Legs I&#39;d Kick You</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of the Science Content Advisor at the PA Department of Education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12637874/" rel="nofollow">Fallout series on Amazon</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/if_i_had_legs_id_kick_you" rel="nofollow">If I Had Legs I&#39;d Kick You</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 284: Brains are Messy</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:09</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59721.Vineland" rel="nofollow">Vineland</a> by Thomas Pynchon<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223329645-absolute-batman-vol-1" rel="nofollow">Absolute Batman</a> Vol. 1&amp;2 by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragotta</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59721.Vineland" rel="nofollow">Vineland</a> by Thomas Pynchon<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223329645-absolute-batman-vol-1" rel="nofollow">Absolute Batman</a> Vol. 1&amp;2 by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragotta</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the difference between knowing and understanding and maybe how comparing to AI neural networks can help clarify the difference.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59721.Vineland" rel="nofollow">Vineland</a> by Thomas Pynchon<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/223329645-absolute-batman-vol-1" rel="nofollow">Absolute Batman</a> Vol. 1&amp;2 by Scott Snyder and Nick Dragotta</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 283: Games People Play</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:30</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning.</p>

<p>Some of the games mentioned in the episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.analoginspiration.ai/" rel="nofollow">Analog Inspiration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.therithmproject.org/" rel="nofollow">The Rithm Project</a><br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1twpLDYn_lQ0kru93i3PJwub3yCr04Qip/view" rel="nofollow">AI Leadership Cards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/pitt-2024/e6e7bad9-d48d-4434-b334-7c651ffc4bdf" rel="nofollow">The Pitt on HBO</a><br>
Pistachio Ice Cream</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning.</p>

<p>Some of the games mentioned in the episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.analoginspiration.ai/" rel="nofollow">Analog Inspiration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.therithmproject.org/" rel="nofollow">The Rithm Project</a><br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1twpLDYn_lQ0kru93i3PJwub3yCr04Qip/view" rel="nofollow">AI Leadership Cards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/pitt-2024/e6e7bad9-d48d-4434-b334-7c651ffc4bdf" rel="nofollow">The Pitt on HBO</a><br>
Pistachio Ice Cream</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss card games, especially ones for learning.</p>

<p>Some of the games mentioned in the episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.analoginspiration.ai/" rel="nofollow">Analog Inspiration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.therithmproject.org/" rel="nofollow">The Rithm Project</a><br>
<a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1twpLDYn_lQ0kru93i3PJwub3yCr04Qip/view" rel="nofollow">AI Leadership Cards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/pitt-2024/e6e7bad9-d48d-4434-b334-7c651ffc4bdf" rel="nofollow">The Pitt on HBO</a><br>
Pistachio Ice Cream</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 282: Snow Day</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>37:35</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://store.mcsweeneys.net" rel="nofollow">McSweeny&#39;s Quarterly Concern</a><br>
Academy Award Nominated Best Pictures (specifically <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29768334/" rel="nofollow">Train Dreams</a>; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594/" rel="nofollow">F1</a>; and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27847051/" rel="nofollow">Secret Agent</a>)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://store.mcsweeneys.net" rel="nofollow">McSweeny&#39;s Quarterly Concern</a><br>
Academy Award Nominated Best Pictures (specifically <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29768334/" rel="nofollow">Train Dreams</a>; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594/" rel="nofollow">F1</a>; and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27847051/" rel="nofollow">Secret Agent</a>)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about snow days (since we had one) and also how they are a case study in policy vs. guidance vs. practice across lots of areas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://store.mcsweeneys.net" rel="nofollow">McSweeny&#39;s Quarterly Concern</a><br>
Academy Award Nominated Best Pictures (specifically <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29768334/" rel="nofollow">Train Dreams</a>; <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594/" rel="nofollow">F1</a>; and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27847051/" rel="nofollow">Secret Agent</a>)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 281: Can We Make Science Education More Accessible?</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/b1dc8f7b-511d-4419-b6d1-04d5c7935e6d.mp3" length="17885018" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we try to answer a listener's email about online accessibility and science education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>37:15</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to answer a listener&#39;s email about online accessibility and science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32642706/fullcredits/" rel="nofollow">The Rip movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28083456/" rel="nofollow">Is This Thing On? movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to answer a listener&#39;s email about online accessibility and science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32642706/fullcredits/" rel="nofollow">The Rip movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28083456/" rel="nofollow">Is This Thing On? movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to answer a listener&#39;s email about online accessibility and science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32642706/fullcredits/" rel="nofollow">The Rip movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt28083456/" rel="nofollow">Is This Thing On? movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 280: Dark Forest of Naming</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:47</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.broadway.com/shows/buena-vista-social-club/" rel="nofollow">Buena Vista Social Club</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594" rel="nofollow">F1</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.broadway.com/shows/buena-vista-social-club/" rel="nofollow">Buena Vista Social Club</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594" rel="nofollow">F1</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about conceptualizing and operationalizing ideas in educational research and the impact of that process on improving teaching practice.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.broadway.com/shows/buena-vista-social-club/" rel="nofollow">Buena Vista Social Club</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16311594" rel="nofollow">F1</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <fireside:playerURL>https://fireside.fm/player/v2/8BqBENz1+mAerSLVS</fireside:playerURL>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 279: PD4AI</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/279</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/f872a266-c96a-4c15-922c-6da03ee3f15c.mp3" length="24316783" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss professional development for learning how to integrate artificial intelligence in classroom settings and assignments.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:39</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss professional development for learning how to integrate artificial intelligence in classroom settings and assignments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/" rel="nofollow">Sinners movie</a><br>
Butterhorns (<a href="https://www.wyseguide.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Not the recipe</a>, but close; <a href="https://pinchofyum.com/grandmas-butterhorns" rel="nofollow">This one </a>also looks promising)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss professional development for learning how to integrate artificial intelligence in classroom settings and assignments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/" rel="nofollow">Sinners movie</a><br>
Butterhorns (<a href="https://www.wyseguide.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Not the recipe</a>, but close; <a href="https://pinchofyum.com/grandmas-butterhorns" rel="nofollow">This one </a>also looks promising)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss professional development for learning how to integrate artificial intelligence in classroom settings and assignments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193180/" rel="nofollow">Sinners movie</a><br>
Butterhorns (<a href="https://www.wyseguide.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Not the recipe</a>, but close; <a href="https://pinchofyum.com/grandmas-butterhorns" rel="nofollow">This one </a>also looks promising)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 278: Nothing Prime in There</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2026 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how to handle the situation of a teacher candidate who is not successful in their field placements. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:38</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to handle the situation of a teacher candidate who is not successful in their field placements. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59854151" rel="nofollow">Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow </a>by Tom King<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210943364" rel="nofollow">The Message</a> by Ta-Nehisi Coates</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to handle the situation of a teacher candidate who is not successful in their field placements. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59854151" rel="nofollow">Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow </a>by Tom King<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210943364" rel="nofollow">The Message</a> by Ta-Nehisi Coates</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to handle the situation of a teacher candidate who is not successful in their field placements. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59854151" rel="nofollow">Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow </a>by Tom King<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210943364" rel="nofollow">The Message</a> by Ta-Nehisi Coates</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 277: Stop! Start! Or continue!</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talked about (New Year's) resolutions of things we want to start, stop, and continue coming into the next year. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:23</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talked about (New Year&#39;s) resolutions of things we want to start, stop, and continue coming into the next year. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219603177" rel="nofollow">With a Vengeance</a> by Riley Sager<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/" rel="nofollow">One Battle After Another </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talked about (New Year&#39;s) resolutions of things we want to start, stop, and continue coming into the next year. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219603177" rel="nofollow">With a Vengeance</a> by Riley Sager<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/" rel="nofollow">One Battle After Another </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talked about (New Year&#39;s) resolutions of things we want to start, stop, and continue coming into the next year. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/219603177" rel="nofollow">With a Vengeance</a> by Riley Sager<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30144839/" rel="nofollow">One Battle After Another </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 276: Enough of This Frivolity </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about commencements. You know, graduation. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:12</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about commencements. You know, graduation. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Cookies (made by Tanya if you are lucky)<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14364480" rel="nofollow">Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about commencements. You know, graduation. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Cookies (made by Tanya if you are lucky)<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14364480" rel="nofollow">Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about commencements. You know, graduation. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Cookies (made by Tanya if you are lucky)<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14364480" rel="nofollow">Wake Up Dead Man: A Knives Out Mystery </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 275: Words Matter</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss efforts to develop national competencies for teacher preparation.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:51</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss efforts to develop national competencies for teacher preparation.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/10-to-25/David-Yeager/9781668023884" rel="nofollow">10 to 25 The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation—And Making Your Own Life Easier By David Yeager</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/294555/the-areas-of-my-expertise-by-john-hodgman/" rel="nofollow">The Areas of My Expertise by John Hodgman</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss efforts to develop national competencies for teacher preparation.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/10-to-25/David-Yeager/9781668023884" rel="nofollow">10 to 25 The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation—And Making Your Own Life Easier By David Yeager</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/294555/the-areas-of-my-expertise-by-john-hodgman/" rel="nofollow">The Areas of My Expertise by John Hodgman</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss efforts to develop national competencies for teacher preparation.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/10-to-25/David-Yeager/9781668023884" rel="nofollow">10 to 25 The Science of Motivating Young People: A Groundbreaking Approach to Leading the Next Generation—And Making Your Own Life Easier By David Yeager</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/294555/the-areas-of-my-expertise-by-john-hodgman/" rel="nofollow">The Areas of My Expertise by John Hodgman</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 274: DAM Good</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about accreditation, which we admit sounds really boring, but turns out it is only somewhat boring and you might find out why you should care. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:24</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accreditation, which we admit sounds really boring, but turns out it is only somewhat boring and you might find out why you should care. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/games/pips" rel="nofollow">Pips</a> - NY Times Games App Game<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17262203-maddaddam" rel="nofollow">MaddAddam (MaddAddam #3) </a>by Margaret Atwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accreditation, which we admit sounds really boring, but turns out it is only somewhat boring and you might find out why you should care. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/games/pips" rel="nofollow">Pips</a> - NY Times Games App Game<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17262203-maddaddam" rel="nofollow">MaddAddam (MaddAddam #3) </a>by Margaret Atwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about accreditation, which we admit sounds really boring, but turns out it is only somewhat boring and you might find out why you should care. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/games/pips" rel="nofollow">Pips</a> - NY Times Games App Game<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17262203-maddaddam" rel="nofollow">MaddAddam (MaddAddam #3) </a>by Margaret Atwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 273: Degrees Don't Disappoint</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>6</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the reorganizations happening at institutions of higher education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:59</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the reorganizations happening at institutions of higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename_Villanelle" rel="nofollow">Codename Villanelle by Luke Jennings</a><br>
<a href="https://pzizz.com/" rel="nofollow">Pzizz app for power napping</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the reorganizations happening at institutions of higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename_Villanelle" rel="nofollow">Codename Villanelle by Luke Jennings</a><br>
<a href="https://pzizz.com/" rel="nofollow">Pzizz app for power napping</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the reorganizations happening at institutions of higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codename_Villanelle" rel="nofollow">Codename Villanelle by Luke Jennings</a><br>
<a href="https://pzizz.com/" rel="nofollow">Pzizz app for power napping</a></p>

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      <title>Episode 272: Buckets of Mastery</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about grades, and specifically the Chronicle of Higher Education article about grade inflation at Harvard. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about grades, and specifically the <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/we-need-to-talk-about-harvards-grade-inflation-report" rel="nofollow">Chronicle of Higher Education</a> article about grade inflation at Harvard. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://davidmaslanka.com" rel="nofollow">David Maslanka</a>&#39;s <a href="https://davidmaslanka.com/works/symphony-no-4-2/?" rel="nofollow">Symphony No. 4</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55777544-long-island-compromise" rel="nofollow">Long Island Compromise</a> by Taffy Brodesser-Akner</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about grades, and specifically the <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/we-need-to-talk-about-harvards-grade-inflation-report" rel="nofollow">Chronicle of Higher Education</a> article about grade inflation at Harvard. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://davidmaslanka.com" rel="nofollow">David Maslanka</a>&#39;s <a href="https://davidmaslanka.com/works/symphony-no-4-2/?" rel="nofollow">Symphony No. 4</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55777544-long-island-compromise" rel="nofollow">Long Island Compromise</a> by Taffy Brodesser-Akner</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about grades, and specifically the <a href="https://www.chronicle.com/article/we-need-to-talk-about-harvards-grade-inflation-report" rel="nofollow">Chronicle of Higher Education</a> article about grade inflation at Harvard. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://davidmaslanka.com" rel="nofollow">David Maslanka</a>&#39;s <a href="https://davidmaslanka.com/works/symphony-no-4-2/?" rel="nofollow">Symphony No. 4</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/55777544-long-island-compromise" rel="nofollow">Long Island Compromise</a> by Taffy Brodesser-Akner</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 271: Views on Viewpoint Diversity</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the pernicious nature of "viewpoint diversity."</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the pernicious nature of &quot;viewpoint diversity.&quot; We draw upon the Fall 2025 Academe article titled <a href="https://www.aaup.org/academe/issues/fall-2025/seven-theses-against-viewpoint-diversity" rel="nofollow">Seven Theses Against Viewpoint Diversity by Lisa Siraganian</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/show/andor" rel="nofollow">Andor Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81438325" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the pernicious nature of &quot;viewpoint diversity.&quot; We draw upon the Fall 2025 Academe article titled <a href="https://www.aaup.org/academe/issues/fall-2025/seven-theses-against-viewpoint-diversity" rel="nofollow">Seven Theses Against Viewpoint Diversity by Lisa Siraganian</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/show/andor" rel="nofollow">Andor Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81438325" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the pernicious nature of &quot;viewpoint diversity.&quot; We draw upon the Fall 2025 Academe article titled <a href="https://www.aaup.org/academe/issues/fall-2025/seven-theses-against-viewpoint-diversity" rel="nofollow">Seven Theses Against Viewpoint Diversity by Lisa Siraganian</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ondisneyplus.disney.com/show/andor" rel="nofollow">Andor Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81438325" rel="nofollow">Death by Lightning</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 270: On-Brand Curmudgeon</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the idea of research to practice in educational research (and practice). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of research to practice in educational research (and practice). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6080337" rel="nofollow">The Year of the Flood </a>by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27674982" rel="nofollow">The Balland of Wallis Island </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of research to practice in educational research (and practice). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6080337" rel="nofollow">The Year of the Flood </a>by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27674982" rel="nofollow">The Balland of Wallis Island </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of research to practice in educational research (and practice). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6080337" rel="nofollow">The Year of the Flood </a>by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27674982" rel="nofollow">The Balland of Wallis Island </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 269: The Search is On!</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the job hiring process in higher education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the job hiring process in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/task/86bc816f-97a7-4cd6-8d53-08d5e6337063" rel="nofollow">Task on HBOMax</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cpedinitiative.org/convenings" rel="nofollow">The CPED Convening</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the job hiring process in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/task/86bc816f-97a7-4cd6-8d53-08d5e6337063" rel="nofollow">Task on HBOMax</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cpedinitiative.org/convenings" rel="nofollow">The CPED Convening</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the job hiring process in higher education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/shows/task/86bc816f-97a7-4cd6-8d53-08d5e6337063" rel="nofollow">Task on HBOMax</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cpedinitiative.org/convenings" rel="nofollow">The CPED Convening</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 268: Let Yourselves Out</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how to think about evaluation and feedback in higher education, specifically for leaders. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:57</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about evaluation and feedback in higher education, specifically for leaders. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://talkeasypod.com" rel="nofollow">Talk Easy Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31289994/" rel="nofollow">The Lowdown</a> on FX</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about evaluation and feedback in higher education, specifically for leaders. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://talkeasypod.com" rel="nofollow">Talk Easy Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31289994/" rel="nofollow">The Lowdown</a> on FX</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about evaluation and feedback in higher education, specifically for leaders. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://talkeasypod.com" rel="nofollow">Talk Easy Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31289994/" rel="nofollow">The Lowdown</a> on FX</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 267: ADA, Not Easy as 123</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the upcoming ADA mandate for compliance of digital content for state and local agencies.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:03</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the upcoming <a href="https://www.ada.gov/resources/2024-03-08-web-rule/#how-long-state-and-local-governments-have-to-comply-with-the-rule" rel="nofollow">ADA mandate </a>for compliance of digital content for state and local agencies.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacemaker_season_2" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker, Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sinners_2025" rel="nofollow">Sinners</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the upcoming <a href="https://www.ada.gov/resources/2024-03-08-web-rule/#how-long-state-and-local-governments-have-to-comply-with-the-rule" rel="nofollow">ADA mandate </a>for compliance of digital content for state and local agencies.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacemaker_season_2" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker, Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sinners_2025" rel="nofollow">Sinners</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the upcoming <a href="https://www.ada.gov/resources/2024-03-08-web-rule/#how-long-state-and-local-governments-have-to-comply-with-the-rule" rel="nofollow">ADA mandate </a>for compliance of digital content for state and local agencies.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peacemaker_season_2" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker, Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sinners_2025" rel="nofollow">Sinners</a></p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about frameworks in science education research. </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46756" rel="nofollow">Oryx and Crake</a> by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://phasehero.com/en-usd" rel="nofollow">Phase Hero Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about frameworks in science education research. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46756" rel="nofollow">Oryx and Crake</a> by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://phasehero.com/en-usd" rel="nofollow">Phase Hero Podcast</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/46756" rel="nofollow">Oryx and Crake</a> by Margaret Atwood<br>
<a href="https://phasehero.com/en-usd" rel="nofollow">Phase Hero Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 265: The Research We Need</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss an article in the Journal of Computing in Higher Education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:52</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12528-025-09446-4" rel="nofollow"> an article</a> in the Journal of Computing in Higher Education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.davidsedarisbooks.com/" rel="nofollow">David Sedaris</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81664250" rel="nofollow">House of Guinness on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.davidsedarisbooks.com/" rel="nofollow">David Sedaris</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81664250" rel="nofollow">House of Guinness on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss<a href="https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12528-025-09446-4" rel="nofollow"> an article</a> in the Journal of Computing in Higher Education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.davidsedarisbooks.com/" rel="nofollow">David Sedaris</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81664250" rel="nofollow">House of Guinness on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 264: To Union or Not To Union</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about unions in higher education, the pros and cons and what unions even are. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about unions in higher education, the pros and cons and what unions even are. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/196774338" rel="nofollow">The Light Eaters: How the Unseen World of Plant Intelligence Offers a New Understanding of Life on Earth</a> by Zoë Schlanger<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a> Season 5 on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about unions in higher education, the pros and cons and what unions even are. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/196774338" rel="nofollow">The Light Eaters: How the Unseen World of Plant Intelligence Offers a New Understanding of Life on Earth</a> by Zoë Schlanger<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a> Season 5 on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about unions in higher education, the pros and cons and what unions even are. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/196774338" rel="nofollow">The Light Eaters: How the Unseen World of Plant Intelligence Offers a New Understanding of Life on Earth</a> by Zoë Schlanger<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a> Season 5 on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 263: A Sleepy Afternoon for Ollie</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss possible episode topics suggested by ChatGPT.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:58</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss possible episode topics suggested by ChatGPT.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.downdogapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Down Dog apps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk&t=20s" rel="nofollow">Alexa Silver skit on SNL</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss possible episode topics suggested by ChatGPT.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.downdogapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Down Dog apps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk&t=20s" rel="nofollow">Alexa Silver skit on SNL</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss possible episode topics suggested by ChatGPT.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.downdogapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Down Dog apps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvT_gqs5ETk&t=20s" rel="nofollow">Alexa Silver skit on SNL</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 262: Sharing the Em Dash</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In a very special episode we are joined by Cole Camplese the Chief Information Officer from the University of Texas at Austin. We talk about AI and technology infrastructure, and it is a lot more interesting then that makes it sound. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>55:18</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In a very special episode we are joined by Cole Camplese the Chief Information Officer from the University of Texas at Austin. We talk about AI and technology infrastructure, and it is a lot more interesting then that makes it sound. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/deadly-class" rel="nofollow">Deadly Class</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Cole Camplese.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In a very special episode we are joined by Cole Camplese the Chief Information Officer from the University of Texas at Austin. We talk about AI and technology infrastructure, and it is a lot more interesting then that makes it sound. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/deadly-class" rel="nofollow">Deadly Class</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Cole Camplese.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In a very special episode we are joined by Cole Camplese the Chief Information Officer from the University of Texas at Austin. We talk about AI and technology infrastructure, and it is a lot more interesting then that makes it sound. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/deadly-class" rel="nofollow">Deadly Class</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Cole Camplese.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 261: Stuck in the Middle</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the changes to Middle Level Certification in Pennsylvania.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:36</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the changes to Middle Level Certification in Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_bag" rel="nofollow">Black Bag by Steven Soderbergh</a><br>
<a href="https://www.schwinnfitness.com/product/ic4-indoor-cycling-bike/100873.html?srsltid=AfmBOorxhzbwzDQ4O4ZunElvLR0eb9epTGzi1Tb2UcAZOc2d4lV7ZyQL" rel="nofollow">Schwinn IC4 Bike</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the changes to Middle Level Certification in Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_bag" rel="nofollow">Black Bag by Steven Soderbergh</a><br>
<a href="https://www.schwinnfitness.com/product/ic4-indoor-cycling-bike/100873.html?srsltid=AfmBOorxhzbwzDQ4O4ZunElvLR0eb9epTGzi1Tb2UcAZOc2d4lV7ZyQL" rel="nofollow">Schwinn IC4 Bike</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the changes to Middle Level Certification in Pennsylvania.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/black_bag" rel="nofollow">Black Bag by Steven Soderbergh</a><br>
<a href="https://www.schwinnfitness.com/product/ic4-indoor-cycling-bike/100873.html?srsltid=AfmBOorxhzbwzDQ4O4ZunElvLR0eb9epTGzi1Tb2UcAZOc2d4lV7ZyQL" rel="nofollow">Schwinn IC4 Bike</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 260: Stripping It to the Studs</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about new things that we are going to try in the upcoming semester of our classes (and we mostly don't stay on topic). </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27995114/" rel="nofollow">Department Q</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388/" rel="nofollow">3 Body Problem</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27995114/" rel="nofollow">Department Q</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388/" rel="nofollow">3 Body Problem</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt27995114/" rel="nofollow">Department Q</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13016388/" rel="nofollow">3 Body Problem</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 259: Micro Means Small</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Scott's trip to Mexico to work with local science teachers to develop units on microplastics.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Scott&#39;s trip to Mexico to work with local science teachers to develop units on microplastics.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1751634/" rel="nofollow">Sandman Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.articlesofinterest.co/podcast" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Scott&#39;s trip to Mexico to work with local science teachers to develop units on microplastics.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1751634/" rel="nofollow">Sandman Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.articlesofinterest.co/podcast" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1751634/" rel="nofollow">Sandman Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://www.articlesofinterest.co/podcast" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 258: Not My Language</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about doing professional learning in another country and in another language and what that might mean.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about doing professional learning in another country and in another language and what that might mean.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
XMU Sessions (Sirus Indie Radio Station):<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/blog/lucy-dacus-siriusxmu-sessions" rel="nofollow">Lucy Dacus - Time in a Bottle (Cover) by Jim Croce</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC4ywcAOCM8" rel="nofollow">   Blondeshell - Diet Pepsi (Cover) by Addison Rae</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconcilable Differences</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
XMU Sessions (Sirus Indie Radio Station):<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/blog/lucy-dacus-siriusxmu-sessions" rel="nofollow">Lucy Dacus - Time in a Bottle (Cover) by Jim Croce</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC4ywcAOCM8" rel="nofollow">   Blondeshell - Diet Pepsi (Cover) by Addison Rae</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconcilable Differences</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
XMU Sessions (Sirus Indie Radio Station):<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/blog/lucy-dacus-siriusxmu-sessions" rel="nofollow">Lucy Dacus - Time in a Bottle (Cover) by Jim Croce</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC4ywcAOCM8" rel="nofollow">   Blondeshell - Diet Pepsi (Cover) by Addison Rae</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconcilable Differences</a></p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a recent New York Times article about the Alpha School.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/politics/ai-alpha-school-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare" rel="nofollow">a recent New York Times article</a> about the Alpha School.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81944037" rel="nofollow">Mike Birbiglia - The Good Life</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81267396" rel="nofollow">Ronnie Chieng - Love to Hate It</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/politics/ai-alpha-school-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare" rel="nofollow">a recent New York Times article</a> about the Alpha School.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81944037" rel="nofollow">Mike Birbiglia - The Good Life</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81267396" rel="nofollow">Ronnie Chieng - Love to Hate It</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/27/us/politics/ai-alpha-school-austin-texas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare" rel="nofollow">a recent New York Times article</a> about the Alpha School.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81944037" rel="nofollow">Mike Birbiglia - The Good Life</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81267396" rel="nofollow">Ronnie Chieng - Love to Hate It</a></p>

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      <title>Episode 256: A New Way to Offend</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how Terrain Theory as a way of setting health policy is a reflection of a deep misunderstanding of how science works and what a theory really means. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:51</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how Terrain Theory as a way of setting health policy is a reflection of a deep misunderstanding of how science works and what a theory really means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/" rel="nofollow">Inception</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5950044/" rel="nofollow">Superman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10676052/" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Four: First Steps</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how Terrain Theory as a way of setting health policy is a reflection of a deep misunderstanding of how science works and what a theory really means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/" rel="nofollow">Inception</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5950044/" rel="nofollow">Superman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10676052/" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Four: First Steps</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how Terrain Theory as a way of setting health policy is a reflection of a deep misunderstanding of how science works and what a theory really means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1375666/" rel="nofollow">Inception</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5950044/" rel="nofollow">Superman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10676052/" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Four: First Steps</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 255: Blogs and Podcasts and AI ...Oh my!</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2025 07:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a recent NSTA blog post on Science Assessment in the Age of AI.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:32</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a recent NSTA blog post on <a href="https://www.nsta.org/blog/rethinking-science-assessment-age-ai" rel="nofollow">Rethinking Science Assessment in the Age of AI</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/My-Friends/Fredrik-Backman/9781982112820" rel="nofollow">My Friends by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com/" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoils</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, artificial intelligence, next generation science standards, science teaching, NSTA</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a recent NSTA blog post on <a href="https://www.nsta.org/blog/rethinking-science-assessment-age-ai" rel="nofollow">Rethinking Science Assessment in the Age of AI</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/My-Friends/Fredrik-Backman/9781982112820" rel="nofollow">My Friends by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com/" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoils</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a recent NSTA blog post on <a href="https://www.nsta.org/blog/rethinking-science-assessment-age-ai" rel="nofollow">Rethinking Science Assessment in the Age of AI</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/My-Friends/Fredrik-Backman/9781982112820" rel="nofollow">My Friends by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com/" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoils</a></p>

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<p>Satisfactory - fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Watching tennis, specifically <a href="https://www.wimbledon.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Championships, Wimbeldon </a><br>
Cake (not the band) - an item of soft, sweet food made from a mixture of flour, shortening, eggs, sugar, and other ingredients, baked and often decorated. (Ollie&#39;s personal preference is yellow/white cake). </p>

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<p>Satisfactory - fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Watching tennis, specifically <a href="https://www.wimbledon.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Championships, Wimbeldon </a><br>
Cake (not the band) - an item of soft, sweet food made from a mixture of flour, shortening, eggs, sugar, and other ingredients, baked and often decorated. (Ollie&#39;s personal preference is yellow/white cake). </p>

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<p>Satisfactory - fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Watching tennis, specifically <a href="https://www.wimbledon.com/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Championships, Wimbeldon </a><br>
Cake (not the band) - an item of soft, sweet food made from a mixture of flour, shortening, eggs, sugar, and other ingredients, baked and often decorated. (Ollie&#39;s personal preference is yellow/white cake). </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 253: Questioning Questions</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss questions that can be asked during dissertation defenses.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss questions that can be asked during dissertation defenses.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/" rel="nofollow">Broadchurch series</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/saga-compendium-one-tp" rel="nofollow">Saga Compendium</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss questions that can be asked during dissertation defenses.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/" rel="nofollow">Broadchurch series</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/saga-compendium-one-tp" rel="nofollow">Saga Compendium</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2249364/" rel="nofollow">Broadchurch series</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/saga-compendium-one-tp" rel="nofollow">Saga Compendium</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 252: Epistemic Apocalypse </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the knowledge system that is at the center of the way we think about learning and speculate what it will take to change it (and if AI is that thing). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the knowledge system that is at the center of the way we think about learning and speculate what it will take to change it (and if AI is that thing). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0kGweFvHWUfh6oLnookVeO" rel="nofollow">Cameron Winter</a> - Specifically Love Takes Miles<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171207-broken-harbor" rel="nofollow">Broken Harbor </a>by Tana French</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the knowledge system that is at the center of the way we think about learning and speculate what it will take to change it (and if AI is that thing). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0kGweFvHWUfh6oLnookVeO" rel="nofollow">Cameron Winter</a> - Specifically Love Takes Miles<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171207-broken-harbor" rel="nofollow">Broken Harbor </a>by Tana French</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the knowledge system that is at the center of the way we think about learning and speculate what it will take to change it (and if AI is that thing). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/artist/0kGweFvHWUfh6oLnookVeO" rel="nofollow">Cameron Winter</a> - Specifically Love Takes Miles<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16171207-broken-harbor" rel="nofollow">Broken Harbor </a>by Tana French</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 251: Book 'Em!</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about books about teachers and teaching.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about books about teachers and teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_season_4" rel="nofollow">The Bear - Season 4</a><br>
<a href="https://ottolenghi.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Ottolenghi</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about books about teachers and teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_season_4" rel="nofollow">The Bear - Season 4</a><br>
<a href="https://ottolenghi.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Ottolenghi</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about books about teachers and teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_season_4" rel="nofollow">The Bear - Season 4</a><br>
<a href="https://ottolenghi.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">Ottolenghi</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 250: Make America Competent Again</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the idea of what it means to be a competent outsider to science and how we prepare students to be one of those people.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of what it means to be a competent outsider to science and how we prepare students to be one of those people.</p>

<p>Feinstein, N. (2011). Salvaging science literacy. Science Education, 95(1), 168–185. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32487617-beneath-a-scarlet-sky" rel="nofollow">Beneath a Scarlet Sky</a> by Mark T. Sullivan<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30840798/" rel="nofollow">The Phoenician Scheme</a> by Wes Anderson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of what it means to be a competent outsider to science and how we prepare students to be one of those people.</p>

<p>Feinstein, N. (2011). Salvaging science literacy. Science Education, 95(1), 168–185. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32487617-beneath-a-scarlet-sky" rel="nofollow">Beneath a Scarlet Sky</a> by Mark T. Sullivan<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30840798/" rel="nofollow">The Phoenician Scheme</a> by Wes Anderson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the idea of what it means to be a competent outsider to science and how we prepare students to be one of those people.</p>

<p>Feinstein, N. (2011). Salvaging science literacy. Science Education, 95(1), 168–185. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.20414</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32487617-beneath-a-scarlet-sky" rel="nofollow">Beneath a Scarlet Sky</a> by Mark T. Sullivan<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt30840798/" rel="nofollow">The Phoenician Scheme</a> by Wes Anderson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 249: Going International</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jun 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the nature of international students on US college campuses.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:02</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the nature of international students on US college campuses. We reference the following resource:<br>
<a href="https://opendoorsdata.org/data/international-students/enrollment-trends/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Trends from the Institute for International Education</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://atomicbooks.com/products/faithful-place-a-novel" rel="nofollow">Faithful Place by Tana French</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preservationhall.com/" rel="nofollow">Preservation Hall Jazz Band</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the nature of international students on US college campuses. We reference the following resource:<br>
<a href="https://opendoorsdata.org/data/international-students/enrollment-trends/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Trends from the Institute for International Education</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://atomicbooks.com/products/faithful-place-a-novel" rel="nofollow">Faithful Place by Tana French</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preservationhall.com/" rel="nofollow">Preservation Hall Jazz Band</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the nature of international students on US college campuses. We reference the following resource:<br>
<a href="https://opendoorsdata.org/data/international-students/enrollment-trends/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Trends from the Institute for International Education</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://atomicbooks.com/products/faithful-place-a-novel" rel="nofollow">Faithful Place by Tana French</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preservationhall.com/" rel="nofollow">Preservation Hall Jazz Band</a></p>

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      <title>Episode 248: Negotiation Yoga</title>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss and Tahl Raz<br>
Grilling</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss and Tahl Raz<br>
Grilling</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss and Tahl Raz<br>
Grilling</p>

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      <title>Episode 247: Sifting through SIFT</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about the SIFT model for media literacy.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about the SIFT model for media literacy.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ta-nehisicoates.com/books/the-message/" rel="nofollow">The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Likeness" rel="nofollow">The Likeness by Tana French</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ta-nehisicoates.com/books/the-message/" rel="nofollow">The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Likeness" rel="nofollow">The Likeness by Tana French</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://ta-nehisicoates.com/books/the-message/" rel="nofollow">The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Likeness" rel="nofollow">The Likeness by Tana French</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 246: Stupid but Accurate</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how our labor in our communities can be a reflection of established patterns of privilege that can be treated as "the way we do things".</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how our labor in our communities can be a reflection of established patterns of privilege that can be treated as &quot;the way we do things&quot;.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54197718-one-by-one" rel="nofollow">One by One</a> by Freida McFadden<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40874079-orphan-x" rel="nofollow">Orphan X</a> by Gregg Hurwitz</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54197718-one-by-one" rel="nofollow">One by One</a> by Freida McFadden<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40874079-orphan-x" rel="nofollow">Orphan X</a> by Gregg Hurwitz</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54197718-one-by-one" rel="nofollow">One by One</a> by Freida McFadden<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40874079-orphan-x" rel="nofollow">Orphan X</a> by Gregg Hurwitz</p>

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      <title>Episode 245: AI Alacrity</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the <a href="https://aiassessmentscale.com/" rel="nofollow">AI Assessment Scale.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Systems_Red" rel="nofollow">All Systems Red by Martha Wells</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_Harper" rel="nofollow">Will &amp; Harper</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the <a href="https://aiassessmentscale.com/" rel="nofollow">AI Assessment Scale.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Systems_Red" rel="nofollow">All Systems Red by Martha Wells</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_Harper" rel="nofollow">Will &amp; Harper</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the <a href="https://aiassessmentscale.com/" rel="nofollow">AI Assessment Scale.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Systems_Red" rel="nofollow">All Systems Red by Martha Wells</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_%26_Harper" rel="nofollow">Will &amp; Harper</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 244: Not My Definition of Good</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20969586/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbolts*</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference:: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20969586/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbolts*</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference:: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to work with teachers who may not want to change in the way that you want them to change. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20969586/" rel="nofollow">Thunderbolts*</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123857637" rel="nofollow">Never Split the Difference:: Negotiating as if Your Life Depended on It</a> by Chris Voss</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 243: Call Me Aquaticus!</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are.</p>

<p><a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/the-age-of-aquaticus" rel="nofollow">Radiolab episode: The Age of Aquaticus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail" rel="nofollow">50th Anniversary of Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81750702" rel="nofollow">Four Seasons on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are.</p>

<p><a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/the-age-of-aquaticus" rel="nofollow">Radiolab episode: The Age of Aquaticus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail" rel="nofollow">50th Anniversary of Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81750702" rel="nofollow">Four Seasons on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss a recent Radiolab episode and how important research and exploration are.</p>

<p><a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/the-age-of-aquaticus" rel="nofollow">Radiolab episode: The Age of Aquaticus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Python_and_the_Holy_Grail" rel="nofollow">50th Anniversary of Monty Python and the Holy Grail</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81750702" rel="nofollow">Four Seasons on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 242: Potentially Unstable Nuclear Ollie</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about leadership, transparency, workload, and evaluation. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8740614" rel="nofollow">The Residence</a> on Netflix<br>
Moulin Rouge! on <a href="https://moulinrougemusical.com/new-york/home/" rel="nofollow">Broadway </a>or on <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009" rel="nofollow">film</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8740614" rel="nofollow">The Residence</a> on Netflix<br>
Moulin Rouge! on <a href="https://moulinrougemusical.com/new-york/home/" rel="nofollow">Broadway </a>or on <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009" rel="nofollow">film</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about leadership, transparency, workload, and evaluation. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8740614" rel="nofollow">The Residence</a> on Netflix<br>
Moulin Rouge! on <a href="https://moulinrougemusical.com/new-york/home/" rel="nofollow">Broadway </a>or on <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0203009" rel="nofollow">film</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 241: Blowing Stuff Up</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:27</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/dirty-chai-definition-765697" rel="nofollow">Dirty Chai</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net/" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a>, especially the episodes with <a href="https://songexploder.net/mj-lenderman" rel="nofollow">MJ Lenderman</a> and <a href="https://songexploder.net/adrianne-lenker" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/dirty-chai-definition-765697" rel="nofollow">Dirty Chai</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net/" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a>, especially the episodes with <a href="https://songexploder.net/mj-lenderman" rel="nofollow">MJ Lenderman</a> and <a href="https://songexploder.net/adrianne-lenker" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss what a practice-based teacher education could look like.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thespruceeats.com/dirty-chai-definition-765697" rel="nofollow">Dirty Chai</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net/" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a>, especially the episodes with <a href="https://songexploder.net/mj-lenderman" rel="nofollow">MJ Lenderman</a> and <a href="https://songexploder.net/adrianne-lenker" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 240: WTF PCK</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://remarkable.com/" rel="nofollow">Remarkable</a> (a new gadget)<br>
Fixing things (particuarly 3D printing in this case)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://remarkable.com/" rel="nofollow">Remarkable</a> (a new gadget)<br>
Fixing things (particuarly 3D printing in this case)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Pedagogical Content Knowledge, all the related concepts it has spawned, and how those are or are not useful in moving our understanding of teaching forward. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://remarkable.com/" rel="nofollow">Remarkable</a> (a new gadget)<br>
Fixing things (particuarly 3D printing in this case)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 239: A Manifesto Party</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a student manifesto from the London School of Economics and Political Science.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:16</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://info.lse.ac.uk/staff/divisions/Eden-Centre/Assets-EC/Documents/PKU-LSE-Conf-April-2025/LSE-PKU-Student-Manifesto.pdf" rel="nofollow">A Sudent Manifesto for Assessment in the Age of AI</a> from the London School of Economics and Political Science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.piercebrown.com/redrisingsaga" rel="nofollow">Red Rising saga from Pierce Brown</a><br>
<a href="https://www.audacy.com/about" rel="nofollow">The Audacy app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://info.lse.ac.uk/staff/divisions/Eden-Centre/Assets-EC/Documents/PKU-LSE-Conf-April-2025/LSE-PKU-Student-Manifesto.pdf" rel="nofollow">A Sudent Manifesto for Assessment in the Age of AI</a> from the London School of Economics and Political Science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.piercebrown.com/redrisingsaga" rel="nofollow">Red Rising saga from Pierce Brown</a><br>
<a href="https://www.audacy.com/about" rel="nofollow">The Audacy app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss <a href="https://info.lse.ac.uk/staff/divisions/Eden-Centre/Assets-EC/Documents/PKU-LSE-Conf-April-2025/LSE-PKU-Student-Manifesto.pdf" rel="nofollow">A Sudent Manifesto for Assessment in the Age of AI</a> from the London School of Economics and Political Science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.piercebrown.com/redrisingsaga" rel="nofollow">Red Rising saga from Pierce Brown</a><br>
<a href="https://www.audacy.com/about" rel="nofollow">The Audacy app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 238: Certain about Uncertainty</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. </p>

<p>Watkins, J., &amp; Manz, E. (2022). Characterizing pedagogical decision points in sense-making conversations motivated by scientific uncertainty. Science Education, 106(6), 1408–1441. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p>Awesome Toes </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. </p>

<p>Watkins, J., &amp; Manz, E. (2022). Characterizing pedagogical decision points in sense-making conversations motivated by scientific uncertainty. Science Education, 106(6), 1408–1441. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p>Awesome Toes </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about uncertainty and how important it is to good science teaching. </p>

<p>Watkins, J., &amp; Manz, E. (2022). Characterizing pedagogical decision points in sense-making conversations motivated by scientific uncertainty. Science Education, 106(6), 1408–1441. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1002/sce.21747</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p>Awesome Toes </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 237: Golden Days?</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss when the "golden age" of education was.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:35</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss when the &quot;golden age&quot; of education was.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - For Melancholy Brunettes (&amp; Sad Women)</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx" rel="nofollow">Severance on AppleTV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss when the &quot;golden age&quot; of education was.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - For Melancholy Brunettes (&amp; Sad Women)</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx" rel="nofollow">Severance on AppleTV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss when the &quot;golden age&quot; of education was.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - For Melancholy Brunettes (&amp; Sad Women)</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx" rel="nofollow">Severance on AppleTV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 236: Life Gets in the Way</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2025 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about relabeling practice with new teaching terms and how it is like what happens with students in science classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Baseball (Especially Spring Training with the Pittsburgh Pirates)<br>
Ireland (and Library St. if you are looking for a restuarant recommendation)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about relabeling practice with new teaching terms and how it is like what happens with students in science classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Baseball (Especially Spring Training with the Pittsburgh Pirates)<br>
Ireland (and Library St. if you are looking for a restuarant recommendation)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Baseball (Especially Spring Training with the Pittsburgh Pirates)<br>
Ireland (and Library St. if you are looking for a restuarant recommendation)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 235: Grouped Together</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:02</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/738749/james-by-percival-everett/" rel="nofollow">James by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://reesesbookclub.com/book/erotic-stories-for-punjabi-widows/" rel="nofollow">Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows by Balli Kaur Jaswal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/738749/james-by-percival-everett/" rel="nofollow">James by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://reesesbookclub.com/book/erotic-stories-for-punjabi-widows/" rel="nofollow">Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows by Balli Kaur Jaswal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about grouping in classroom environments.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/738749/james-by-percival-everett/" rel="nofollow">James by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://reesesbookclub.com/book/erotic-stories-for-punjabi-widows/" rel="nofollow">Erotic Stories for Punjabi Widows by Balli Kaur Jaswal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 234: Fast and Furious DOGE</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:16</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234" rel="nofollow">Conclave</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40163119" rel="nofollow">Say Nothing</a> by Patrick Radden Keefe</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234" rel="nofollow">Conclave</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40163119" rel="nofollow">Say Nothing</a> by Patrick Radden Keefe</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the firings and threats around defunding NSF, NIH, and capping indirect costs to Universities. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20215234" rel="nofollow">Conclave</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40163119" rel="nofollow">Say Nothing</a> by Patrick Radden Keefe</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 233: Don't Be a Tourist</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:19</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18559464/" rel="nofollow">My Old Ass </a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus" rel="nofollow">White Lotus Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18559464/" rel="nofollow">My Old Ass </a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus" rel="nofollow">White Lotus Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of artificial intelligence and discuss how it is being integrated into classwork.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt18559464/" rel="nofollow">My Old Ass </a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-white-lotus" rel="nofollow">White Lotus Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 232: Face Full of Morning Ollie</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&amp;C) STEELS Summit.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&amp;C) STEELS Summit.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://press.hulu.com/shows/paradise/" rel="nofollow">Paradise</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://hirshhorn.si.edu" rel="nofollow">Hirshhorn Museum</a> in the Simthsonian Institute </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&amp;C) STEELS Summit.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://press.hulu.com/shows/paradise/" rel="nofollow">Paradise</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://hirshhorn.si.edu" rel="nofollow">Hirshhorn Museum</a> in the Simthsonian Institute </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the keynote I am delivering at Pennsylvania Educational Technology Expo and Conference (PETE&amp;C) STEELS Summit.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://press.hulu.com/shows/paradise/" rel="nofollow">Paradise</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://hirshhorn.si.edu" rel="nofollow">Hirshhorn Museum</a> in the Simthsonian Institute </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 231: Heading Home</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss homework.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:46</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss homework.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Krugman on Substack</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil?srsltid=AfmBOop5mijEcuBghewuvNLCNV4M3CopNySX238NpCXWNcGiweavEyH7" rel="nofollow">AI Snake Oil </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss homework.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Krugman on Substack</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil?srsltid=AfmBOop5mijEcuBghewuvNLCNV4M3CopNySX238NpCXWNcGiweavEyH7" rel="nofollow">AI Snake Oil </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss homework.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://paulkrugman.substack.com/" rel="nofollow">Paul Krugman on Substack</a><br>
<a href="https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691249131/ai-snake-oil?srsltid=AfmBOop5mijEcuBghewuvNLCNV4M3CopNySX238NpCXWNcGiweavEyH7" rel="nofollow">AI Snake Oil </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 230: Is a Hot Dog a Sandwich</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/6d23184b-261b-4ae9-b6dc-ccf403a2eddf.mp3" length="18515091" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:33</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193791" rel="nofollow">The Last Showgirl</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17009710/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193791" rel="nofollow">The Last Showgirl</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17009710/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we negotiate the meaning of negotiation of meaning and what kind of talk that means. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt31193791" rel="nofollow">The Last Showgirl</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt17009710/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a></p>

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      <title>Episode 229: In Your Left Earhole</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how leaders learn to be leaders and what the challenges are for leaders who don't have training. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how leaders learn to be leaders and what the challenges are for leaders who don&#39;t have training. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Skiing<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40750958-machine-learning-and-human-intelligence" rel="nofollow">Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The future of education for the 21st Century </a>by Rosemary Luckin</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Skiing<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40750958-machine-learning-and-human-intelligence" rel="nofollow">Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The future of education for the 21st Century </a>by Rosemary Luckin</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Skiing<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40750958-machine-learning-and-human-intelligence" rel="nofollow">Machine Learning and Human Intelligence: The future of education for the 21st Century </a>by Rosemary Luckin</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 228: Sticky Certifications</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss science certifications in PA.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:23</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss science certifications in PA.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fxnow.fxnetworks.com/show/619b3b91-5ee6-46f5-8c84-543d2a9400bd" rel="nofollow">Shogun on FX</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/tudum/the-diplomat" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss science certifications in PA.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fxnow.fxnetworks.com/show/619b3b91-5ee6-46f5-8c84-543d2a9400bd" rel="nofollow">Shogun on FX</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/tudum/the-diplomat" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fxnow.fxnetworks.com/show/619b3b91-5ee6-46f5-8c84-543d2a9400bd" rel="nofollow">Shogun on FX</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/tudum/the-diplomat" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 227: Talking Teachers</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>33:08</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacher" rel="nofollow">English Teacher</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Lee Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacher" rel="nofollow">English Teacher</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Lee Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we try to talk about our favorite fictional science teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/english-teacher" rel="nofollow">English Teacher</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leemovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Lee Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 226: Caste(ing) Faculty</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jan 2025 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:07</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15839976-red-rising" rel="nofollow">Red Rising </a>by Pierce Brown<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51045613-deacon-king-kong" rel="nofollow">Deacon King Kong</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15839976-red-rising" rel="nofollow">Red Rising </a>by Pierce Brown<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51045613-deacon-king-kong" rel="nofollow">Deacon King Kong</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the relationship between tenure track and teaching/clinical/non-tenure track faculty. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/15839976-red-rising" rel="nofollow">Red Rising </a>by Pierce Brown<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/51045613-deacon-king-kong" rel="nofollow">Deacon King Kong</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 225: Grades and Grace</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>53:19</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/audiobooks/revenge-of-the-tipping-point" rel="nofollow">Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/audiobooks/revenge-of-the-tipping-point" rel="nofollow">Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss student situations where grace may be needed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/audiobooks/revenge-of-the-tipping-point" rel="nofollow">Revenge of the Tipping Point by Malcolm Gladwell</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 224: Fear of Social Death</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:46</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo" rel="nofollow">Sampson Boat Co.</a> YouTube Channel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/206005312-everyone-this-christmas-has-a-secret" rel="nofollow">Everyone This Christmas has a Secret</a> by Benjamin Stevenson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo" rel="nofollow">Sampson Boat Co.</a> YouTube Channel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/206005312-everyone-this-christmas-has-a-secret" rel="nofollow">Everyone This Christmas has a Secret</a> by Benjamin Stevenson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the tension between knowing you need to let people talk through their own thinking and the fact that all learning opportunities have time constraints. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/@SampsonBoatCo" rel="nofollow">Sampson Boat Co.</a> YouTube Channel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/206005312-everyone-this-christmas-has-a-secret" rel="nofollow">Everyone This Christmas has a Secret</a> by Benjamin Stevenson</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 223: Conferencing about Conferences</title>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marthawells.com/murderbot.htm" rel="nofollow">The Murderbot Diaries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32028027/" rel="nofollow">The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marthawells.com/murderbot.htm" rel="nofollow">The Murderbot Diaries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32028027/" rel="nofollow">The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marthawells.com/murderbot.htm" rel="nofollow">The Murderbot Diaries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt32028027/" rel="nofollow">The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about what the Department of Education does and what it means if it is weakened or eliminated. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about what the Department of Education does and what it means if it is weakened or eliminated. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Portugal (yes, the country)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63241104-tom-lake" rel="nofollow">Tom Lake </a>by Anne Patchett </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about what the Department of Education does and what it means if it is weakened or eliminated. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Portugal (yes, the country)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63241104-tom-lake" rel="nofollow">Tom Lake </a>by Anne Patchett </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Portugal (yes, the country)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63241104-tom-lake" rel="nofollow">Tom Lake </a>by Anne Patchett </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 221: It's Tricky</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations with teacher candidates.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:52</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations with teacher candidates.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/711797/first-lie-wins-reeses-book-club-by-ashley-elston/" rel="nofollow">First Lie Wins by Ashley Elston</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking/umc.cmc.apzybj6eqf6pzccd97kev7bs" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations with teacher candidates.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/711797/first-lie-wins-reeses-book-club-by-ashley-elston/" rel="nofollow">First Lie Wins by Ashley Elston</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking/umc.cmc.apzybj6eqf6pzccd97kev7bs" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV+</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/711797/first-lie-wins-reeses-book-club-by-ashley-elston/" rel="nofollow">First Lie Wins by Ashley Elston</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking/umc.cmc.apzybj6eqf6pzccd97kev7bs" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 220: Hard for Ollie to Say</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how we see and interpret the world is a lot about who we are and what our experiences have been all the way down to the data coming from our senses.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>[Alternative episode title: Old Man Illness Corner]</p>

<p>Uexküll&#39;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11691774/" rel="nofollow">Only Murders in the Building</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61431922-fourth-wing" rel="nofollow">Fourth Wing</a> by Rebecca Yarros</p>

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<p>[Alternative episode title: Old Man Illness Corner]</p>

<p>Uexküll&#39;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11691774/" rel="nofollow">Only Murders in the Building</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61431922-fourth-wing" rel="nofollow">Fourth Wing</a> by Rebecca Yarros</p>

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<p>[Alternative episode title: Old Man Illness Corner]</p>

<p>Uexküll&#39;s <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11691774/" rel="nofollow">Only Murders in the Building</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/61431922-fourth-wing" rel="nofollow">Fourth Wing</a> by Rebecca Yarros</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 219: A Conversation about Controversy</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the teaching of controversial topics in science.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the teaching of controversial topics in science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12037194/" rel="nofollow">Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ncaa.com/sports/football/fbs" rel="nofollow">NCAA College Football</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the teaching of controversial topics in science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12037194/" rel="nofollow">Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ncaa.com/sports/football/fbs" rel="nofollow">NCAA College Football</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the teaching of controversial topics in science.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12037194/" rel="nofollow">Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ncaa.com/sports/football/fbs" rel="nofollow">NCAA College Football</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 218: Sad Batman</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how to answer the question "when does the teacher intervene when a kid's idea is wrong?"</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:38</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to answer the question &quot;when does the teacher intervene when a kid&#39;s idea is wrong?&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15435876/" rel="nofollow">The Penguin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/1258547263/question-everything-with-brian-reed" rel="nofollow">Question Everything with Brian Reed</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to answer the question &quot;when does the teacher intervene when a kid&#39;s idea is wrong?&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15435876/" rel="nofollow">The Penguin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/1258547263/question-everything-with-brian-reed" rel="nofollow">Question Everything with Brian Reed</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to answer the question &quot;when does the teacher intervene when a kid&#39;s idea is wrong?&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15435876/" rel="nofollow">The Penguin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/podcasts/1258547263/question-everything-with-brian-reed" rel="nofollow">Question Everything with Brian Reed</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 217: Assessing the Assessments</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the released sample questions for the PA Keystone exam in Biology.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the <a href="https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CfOGLusViqtmNhrE9OS_CJ7PhX8f7sJE/view?usp=sharing" rel="nofollow">released sample questions for the PA Keystone exam</a> in Biology. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://blogs.millersville.edu/news/2024/10/25/ville-prof-teacher-educator-of-the-year/" rel="nofollow">PA Teacher Educator of the Year</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://blogs.millersville.edu/news/2024/10/25/ville-prof-teacher-educator-of-the-year/" rel="nofollow">PA Teacher Educator of the Year</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://blogs.millersville.edu/news/2024/10/25/ville-prof-teacher-educator-of-the-year/" rel="nofollow">PA Teacher Educator of the Year</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 216: Gaps and Naps</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we revisit gapless explanations.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:12</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit gapless explanations.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25733990-sleeping-giants" rel="nofollow">Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel</a><br>
Home Improvement Projects</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit gapless explanations.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25733990-sleeping-giants" rel="nofollow">Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel</a><br>
Home Improvement Projects</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25733990-sleeping-giants" rel="nofollow">Sleeping Giants by Sylvain Neuvel</a><br>
Home Improvement Projects</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 215: CoPilot Failure</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about failure in science and how we need to think about it in terms of teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:32</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about failure in science and how we need to think about it in terms of teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59109077-horse" rel="nofollow">Horse</a>by Geraldine Brooks<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26933824/" rel="nofollow">Nobody Wants This </a>on Netflix</p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about failure in science and how we need to think about it in terms of teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59109077-horse" rel="nofollow">Horse</a>by Geraldine Brooks<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26933824/" rel="nofollow">Nobody Wants This </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59109077-horse" rel="nofollow">Horse</a>by Geraldine Brooks<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt26933824/" rel="nofollow">Nobody Wants This </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 214: A Phenomenal Episode!</title>
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      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we revisit the topic of phenomena and their selection and use in science classes.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:04</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of phenomena and their selection and use in science classes.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/against-the-rules" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of phenomena and their selection and use in science classes.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/against-the-rules" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the topic of phenomena and their selection and use in science classes.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/against-the-rules" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 213: Answering Question #3</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about book clubs for professional learning and how to structure them.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:29</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about book clubs for professional learning and how to structure them.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Apple Cider Doughnuts<br>
Smokeless Firepits (<a href="https://breeo.com" rel="nofollow">Breeo</a> (not (yet) a sponsor)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about book clubs for professional learning and how to structure them.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Apple Cider Doughnuts<br>
Smokeless Firepits (<a href="https://breeo.com" rel="nofollow">Breeo</a> (not (yet) a sponsor)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about book clubs for professional learning and how to structure them.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Apple Cider Doughnuts<br>
Smokeless Firepits (<a href="https://breeo.com" rel="nofollow">Breeo</a> (not (yet) a sponsor)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 212: Playing Whack A Mole</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the complicated nature of learning space, learning theory, and pedagogy.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:39</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the complicated nature of learning space, learning theory, and pedagogy.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dearreadergame.com/" rel="nofollow">Dear Reader game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.riverhounds.com/news/2024/09/18/pittsburgh-riveters-w-league-name-announcement/" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Riveters</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the complicated nature of learning space, learning theory, and pedagogy.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dearreadergame.com/" rel="nofollow">Dear Reader game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.riverhounds.com/news/2024/09/18/pittsburgh-riveters-w-league-name-announcement/" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Riveters</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the complicated nature of learning space, learning theory, and pedagogy.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dearreadergame.com/" rel="nofollow">Dear Reader game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.riverhounds.com/news/2024/09/18/pittsburgh-riveters-w-league-name-announcement/" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Riveters</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 211: Practice with Morning Ollie</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about why hands-on and lab activities are not the same as phenomenon-driven science practices. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:23</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about why hands-on and lab activities are not the same as phenomenon-driven science practices. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81665900" rel="nofollow">Mike Bribiglia - The Old Man and the Pool</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.rexorangecounty.com" rel="nofollow">Rex Orange County</a> - The Alexander Technique</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about why hands-on and lab activities are not the same as phenomenon-driven science practices. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81665900" rel="nofollow">Mike Bribiglia - The Old Man and the Pool</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.rexorangecounty.com" rel="nofollow">Rex Orange County</a> - The Alexander Technique</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about why hands-on and lab activities are not the same as phenomenon-driven science practices. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81665900" rel="nofollow">Mike Bribiglia - The Old Man and the Pool</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.rexorangecounty.com" rel="nofollow">Rex Orange County</a> - The Alexander Technique</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 210: Our Nerd Era</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1684562/" rel="nofollow">The Fall Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a>, Season 4</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1684562/" rel="nofollow">The Fall Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a>, Season 4</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about AI and what teachers should know about it.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1684562/" rel="nofollow">The Fall Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5875444/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses</a>, Season 4</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 209: Celebrating Partnerships</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the value of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:42</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the value of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/225407/the-demon-of-unrest-by-erik-larson/" rel="nofollow">The Demon of Unrest by Erik Larson</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81437051" rel="nofollow">The Gentlemen series on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the value of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/225407/the-demon-of-unrest-by-erik-larson/" rel="nofollow">The Demon of Unrest by Erik Larson</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81437051" rel="nofollow">The Gentlemen series on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the value of partnerships between higher education institutions and schools.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/225407/the-demon-of-unrest-by-erik-larson/" rel="nofollow">The Demon of Unrest by Erik Larson</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81437051" rel="nofollow">The Gentlemen series on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 208: Joys to the World, Vol. 4</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This is the end of season 4, so it is an all joys episode, so enjoy (see what we did there).</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the end of season 4, so it is an all joys episode, so enjoy (see what we did there).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.searchengine.show" rel="nofollow">Search Engine</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/decoder-ring" rel="nofollow">Decoder Ring</a></p>

<p><strong>Book</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/139400713-martyr" rel="nofollow">Martyr! By Kaveh Akbar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550-the-heaven-earth-grocery-store" rel="nofollow">The Heaven &amp; Earth Grocery Store </a>by James McBride</p>

<p><strong>Album</strong><br>
<a href="https://shop.maggierogers.com/products/don-t-forget-me-digital-album" rel="nofollow">Maggie Rogers - Don&#39;t forget me</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adriannelenker.com" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cypher-007/id1586958842" rel="nofollow">Cypher 007</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cmyk.games/products/monikers" rel="nofollow">Monikers </a></p>

<p><strong>Phone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.athlyticapp.com" rel="nofollow">Athlytic</a><br>
<a href="https://yoga-go.fit" rel="nofollow">Yoga Go</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13238346" rel="nofollow">Past Lives </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6263850/" rel="nofollow">Deadpool &amp; Wolverine</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028" rel="nofollow">Homicide: Life on the Street</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the end of season 4, so it is an all joys episode, so enjoy (see what we did there).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.searchengine.show" rel="nofollow">Search Engine</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/decoder-ring" rel="nofollow">Decoder Ring</a></p>

<p><strong>Book</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/139400713-martyr" rel="nofollow">Martyr! By Kaveh Akbar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550-the-heaven-earth-grocery-store" rel="nofollow">The Heaven &amp; Earth Grocery Store </a>by James McBride</p>

<p><strong>Album</strong><br>
<a href="https://shop.maggierogers.com/products/don-t-forget-me-digital-album" rel="nofollow">Maggie Rogers - Don&#39;t forget me</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adriannelenker.com" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cypher-007/id1586958842" rel="nofollow">Cypher 007</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cmyk.games/products/monikers" rel="nofollow">Monikers </a></p>

<p><strong>Phone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.athlyticapp.com" rel="nofollow">Athlytic</a><br>
<a href="https://yoga-go.fit" rel="nofollow">Yoga Go</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13238346" rel="nofollow">Past Lives </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6263850/" rel="nofollow">Deadpool &amp; Wolverine</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028" rel="nofollow">Homicide: Life on the Street</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is the end of season 4, so it is an all joys episode, so enjoy (see what we did there).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.searchengine.show" rel="nofollow">Search Engine</a><br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/decoder-ring" rel="nofollow">Decoder Ring</a></p>

<p><strong>Book</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/139400713-martyr" rel="nofollow">Martyr! By Kaveh Akbar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550-the-heaven-earth-grocery-store" rel="nofollow">The Heaven &amp; Earth Grocery Store </a>by James McBride</p>

<p><strong>Album</strong><br>
<a href="https://shop.maggierogers.com/products/don-t-forget-me-digital-album" rel="nofollow">Maggie Rogers - Don&#39;t forget me</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adriannelenker.com" rel="nofollow">Adrianne Lenker</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/cypher-007/id1586958842" rel="nofollow">Cypher 007</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cmyk.games/products/monikers" rel="nofollow">Monikers </a></p>

<p><strong>Phone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.athlyticapp.com" rel="nofollow">Athlytic</a><br>
<a href="https://yoga-go.fit" rel="nofollow">Yoga Go</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13238346" rel="nofollow">Past Lives </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6263850/" rel="nofollow">Deadpool &amp; Wolverine</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19231492" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0106028" rel="nofollow">Homicide: Life on the Street</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 207: Devil in the Details</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations of phenomenon-based science classrooms.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:01</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations of phenomenon-based science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/575362/the-ferryman-by-justin-cronin/" rel="nofollow">The Ferryman by Justin Cronin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.dehd.horse/" rel="nofollow">The band, Dehd </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations of phenomenon-based science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/575362/the-ferryman-by-justin-cronin/" rel="nofollow">The Ferryman by Justin Cronin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.dehd.horse/" rel="nofollow">The band, Dehd </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss conducting observations of phenomenon-based science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/575362/the-ferryman-by-justin-cronin/" rel="nofollow">The Ferryman by Justin Cronin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.dehd.horse/" rel="nofollow">The band, Dehd </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 206: Craft of Carving</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about teaching as a science, engineering, design, craft, or art practice. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:35</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching as a science, engineering, design, craft, or art practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shop Class as Soulcraft: An Inquiry into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/184483.Meet_You_in_Hell" rel="nofollow">Meet You in Hell: Andrew Carnegie, Henry Clay Frick, and the Bitter Partnership That Changed America</a> by Les Standiford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching as a science, engineering, design, craft, or art practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shop Class as Soulcraft: An Inquiry into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/184483.Meet_You_in_Hell" rel="nofollow">Meet You in Hell: Andrew Carnegie, Henry Clay Frick, and the Bitter Partnership That Changed America</a> by Les Standiford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching as a science, engineering, design, craft, or art practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shop Class as Soulcraft: An Inquiry into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/184483.Meet_You_in_Hell" rel="nofollow">Meet You in Hell: Andrew Carnegie, Henry Clay Frick, and the Bitter Partnership That Changed America</a> by Les Standiford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 205: Project 2025 Explained</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Aug 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we outline the educational aspects of the Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 document.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://spotle.io/" rel="nofollow">Spotle, Music Wordle game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Immunity-Change-Potential-Organization-Leadership/dp/1422117367" rel="nofollow">Immunity to Change book</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://spotle.io/" rel="nofollow">Spotle, Music Wordle game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Immunity-Change-Potential-Organization-Leadership/dp/1422117367" rel="nofollow">Immunity to Change book</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://spotle.io/" rel="nofollow">Spotle, Music Wordle game</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Immunity-Change-Potential-Organization-Leadership/dp/1422117367" rel="nofollow">Immunity to Change book</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 204: The Lark Owl Connection</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about teaching climate and climate changes in the context of a new book from Mark Widschitl (lead author of the Ambitious Science Teaching book). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching climate and climate changes in the context of a new book from Mark Widschitl (lead author of the Ambitious Science Teaching book). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157654249-teaching-climate-change" rel="nofollow">Teaching Climate Change: Fostering Understanding, Resilience, and a Commitment to Justice</a> by Mark Windschitl<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/126133776-the-plinko-bounce" rel="nofollow">The Plinko Bounce</a> by Martin Clark</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching climate and climate changes in the context of a new book from Mark Widschitl (lead author of the Ambitious Science Teaching book). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157654249-teaching-climate-change" rel="nofollow">Teaching Climate Change: Fostering Understanding, Resilience, and a Commitment to Justice</a> by Mark Windschitl<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/126133776-the-plinko-bounce" rel="nofollow">The Plinko Bounce</a> by Martin Clark</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about teaching climate and climate changes in the context of a new book from Mark Widschitl (lead author of the Ambitious Science Teaching book). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157654249-teaching-climate-change" rel="nofollow">Teaching Climate Change: Fostering Understanding, Resilience, and a Commitment to Justice</a> by Mark Windschitl<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/126133776-the-plinko-bounce" rel="nofollow">The Plinko Bounce</a> by Martin Clark</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 203: Induction Junction, What's Your Function?</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss mentoring and induction of new science teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:50</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss mentoring and induction of new science teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.freelibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">Free Library of Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/en" rel="nofollow">International Futbol</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss mentoring and induction of new science teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.freelibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">Free Library of Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/en" rel="nofollow">International Futbol</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.freelibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">Free Library of Philadelphia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/en" rel="nofollow">International Futbol</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 202: Who is Your Tribe?</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how truth is tribal and social, and so social death is scarier than physical death and why that matters for teaching and learning. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how truth is tribal and social, and so social death is scarier than physical death and why that matters for teaching and learning. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week: <br>
<a href="https://adriannelenker.bandcamp.com/album/bright-future" rel="nofollow">Bright Future</a> by Adrianne Lanker<br>
Wilco (maybe specifically <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicking_Television:_Live_in_Chicago" rel="nofollow">Kicking Television: Live in Chicago</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.cut-worms.com" rel="nofollow">Cut Worms</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how truth is tribal and social, and so social death is scarier than physical death and why that matters for teaching and learning. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week: <br>
<a href="https://adriannelenker.bandcamp.com/album/bright-future" rel="nofollow">Bright Future</a> by Adrianne Lanker<br>
Wilco (maybe specifically <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicking_Television:_Live_in_Chicago" rel="nofollow">Kicking Television: Live in Chicago</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.cut-worms.com" rel="nofollow">Cut Worms</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how truth is tribal and social, and so social death is scarier than physical death and why that matters for teaching and learning. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week: <br>
<a href="https://adriannelenker.bandcamp.com/album/bright-future" rel="nofollow">Bright Future</a> by Adrianne Lanker<br>
Wilco (maybe specifically <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicking_Television:_Live_in_Chicago" rel="nofollow">Kicking Television: Live in Chicago</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.cut-worms.com" rel="nofollow">Cut Worms</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 201: Not Changing Buses</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the sticky subject of transfer in education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>36:36</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the sticky subject of transfer in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Taskmaster" rel="nofollow">Taskmaster</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/remarkably-bright-creatures-shelby-van-pelt?variant=41039357706274" rel="nofollow">Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the sticky subject of transfer in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Taskmaster" rel="nofollow">Taskmaster</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/remarkably-bright-creatures-shelby-van-pelt?variant=41039357706274" rel="nofollow">Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the sticky subject of transfer in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/Taskmaster" rel="nofollow">Taskmaster</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/remarkably-bright-creatures-shelby-van-pelt?variant=41039357706274" rel="nofollow">Remarkably Bright Creatures by Shelby Van Pelt</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 200: Talking with Your Dog About Gravity</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we dig into the differences between cognitive and sociocultural perspectives on learning and how they characterize not just different ways of learning, but of knowing. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:30</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we dig into the differences between cognitive and sociocultural perspectives on learning and how they characterize not just different ways of learning, but of knowing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095631/" rel="nofollow">Midnight Run</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550" rel="nofollow">Heaven and Earth Grocery Store</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we dig into the differences between cognitive and sociocultural perspectives on learning and how they characterize not just different ways of learning, but of knowing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095631/" rel="nofollow">Midnight Run</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550" rel="nofollow">Heaven and Earth Grocery Store</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we dig into the differences between cognitive and sociocultural perspectives on learning and how they characterize not just different ways of learning, but of knowing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095631/" rel="nofollow">Midnight Run</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/65678550" rel="nofollow">Heaven and Earth Grocery Store</a> by James McBride</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 199: Two Beefs from Ollie</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jun 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss some of the issues we have with the current discourse around AI in education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some of the issues we have with the current discourse around AI in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s9/gays-against-briggs" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn podcast - Season 9</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/podcasts/serial-season-four-guantanamo.html" rel="nofollow">Serial podcast - Season 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some of the issues we have with the current discourse around AI in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s9/gays-against-briggs" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn podcast - Season 9</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/podcasts/serial-season-four-guantanamo.html" rel="nofollow">Serial podcast - Season 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some of the issues we have with the current discourse around AI in education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s9/gays-against-briggs" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn podcast - Season 9</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/podcasts/serial-season-four-guantanamo.html" rel="nofollow">Serial podcast - Season 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the fundamental mismatch between different ways of what it means to know something impacts everything about school (and everything else). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the fundamental mismatch between different ways of what it means to know something impacts everything about school (and everything else). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://www.fantasticcatband.com" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Cat</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the fundamental mismatch between different ways of what it means to know something impacts everything about school (and everything else). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://www.fantasticcatband.com" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Cat</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the fundamental mismatch between different ways of what it means to know something impacts everything about school (and everything else). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://www.fantasticcatband.com" rel="nofollow">Fantastic Cat</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 197: Secret Sauce and Conference Chicken</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we chat with Dr. April Luehmann, Associate Professor in the Warner School of Education at the University of Rochester.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with Dr. April Luehmann, Associate Professor in the Warner School of Education at the University of Rochester. We discuss April&#39;s recent article, <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.21917" rel="nofollow">Toward a justice-centered ambitious teaching<br>
framework: Shaping ambitious science teaching to be culturally sustaining and productive in a rural context</a>, which appeared in the Journal of Research in Science Teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_(2015_film)" rel="nofollow">Pixar&#39;s 2015 movie, Inside Out</a><br>
<a href="https://palmermuseum.psu.edu/" rel="nofollow">Palmer Museum of Art</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: April Luehmann.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with Dr. April Luehmann, Associate Professor in the Warner School of Education at the University of Rochester. We discuss April&#39;s recent article, <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.21917" rel="nofollow">Toward a justice-centered ambitious teaching<br>
framework: Shaping ambitious science teaching to be culturally sustaining and productive in a rural context</a>, which appeared in the Journal of Research in Science Teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_(2015_film)" rel="nofollow">Pixar&#39;s 2015 movie, Inside Out</a><br>
<a href="https://palmermuseum.psu.edu/" rel="nofollow">Palmer Museum of Art</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: April Luehmann.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we chat with Dr. April Luehmann, Associate Professor in the Warner School of Education at the University of Rochester. We discuss April&#39;s recent article, <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.21917" rel="nofollow">Toward a justice-centered ambitious teaching<br>
framework: Shaping ambitious science teaching to be culturally sustaining and productive in a rural context</a>, which appeared in the Journal of Research in Science Teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inside_Out_(2015_film)" rel="nofollow">Pixar&#39;s 2015 movie, Inside Out</a><br>
<a href="https://palmermuseum.psu.edu/" rel="nofollow">Palmer Museum of Art</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: April Luehmann.</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 196: AI Old Man Noises</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we have a wide ranging (even for us) conversation about Artificial Intelligence (AI). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:55</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we have a wide ranging (even for us) conversation about Artificial Intelligence (AI). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1OqPzIKH4" rel="nofollow">Ken Burns&#39; Commencement Speech a Brandeis </a>(2024) <br>
Grilling / Griddles for a Grill</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we have a wide ranging (even for us) conversation about Artificial Intelligence (AI). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1OqPzIKH4" rel="nofollow">Ken Burns&#39; Commencement Speech a Brandeis </a>(2024) <br>
Grilling / Griddles for a Grill</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we have a wide ranging (even for us) conversation about Artificial Intelligence (AI). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1OqPzIKH4" rel="nofollow">Ken Burns&#39; Commencement Speech a Brandeis </a>(2024) <br>
Grilling / Griddles for a Grill</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 195: Hypothetical Ollie</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss whether scientists (and others) are inventors or discoverers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:23</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss whether scientists (and others) are inventors or discoverers. The conversation is a result of <a href="https://seths.blog/2024/05/invention-or-discovery/" rel="nofollow">a recent post to Seth&#39;s Blog</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/trees" rel="nofollow">The Trees by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-big-door-prize/umc.cmc.2rjxcljdjz4h47vjdxnytcn23" rel="nofollow">The Big Door Prize on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss whether scientists (and others) are inventors or discoverers. The conversation is a result of <a href="https://seths.blog/2024/05/invention-or-discovery/" rel="nofollow">a recent post to Seth&#39;s Blog</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/trees" rel="nofollow">The Trees by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-big-door-prize/umc.cmc.2rjxcljdjz4h47vjdxnytcn23" rel="nofollow">The Big Door Prize on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss whether scientists (and others) are inventors or discoverers. The conversation is a result of <a href="https://seths.blog/2024/05/invention-or-discovery/" rel="nofollow">a recent post to Seth&#39;s Blog</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/trees" rel="nofollow">The Trees by Percival Everett</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-big-door-prize/umc.cmc.2rjxcljdjz4h47vjdxnytcn23" rel="nofollow">The Big Door Prize on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 194: Esperanto of Residue</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the concept of learning residue in both virtual and physical learning spaces.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:15</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the concept of learning residue in both virtual and physical learning spaces.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabbri-Amarena-Cherries-Italy-Candied/dp/B07L8L9CFN" rel="nofollow">Fabbri Amarena Wild Cherries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith" rel="nofollow">Stan Smith Shoes</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the concept of learning residue in both virtual and physical learning spaces.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabbri-Amarena-Cherries-Italy-Candied/dp/B07L8L9CFN" rel="nofollow">Fabbri Amarena Wild Cherries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith" rel="nofollow">Stan Smith Shoes</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the concept of learning residue in both virtual and physical learning spaces.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Fabbri-Amarena-Cherries-Italy-Candied/dp/B07L8L9CFN" rel="nofollow">Fabbri Amarena Wild Cherries</a><br>
<a href="https://www.adidas.com/us/stan_smith" rel="nofollow">Stan Smith Shoes</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 193: The Progress of Learning Progressions</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a 2009 article from the Journal of Research in Science Teaching which discusses learning progressions and scientific modeling.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss one of the most cited articles from the Journal of Research in Science Teaching: </p>

<p>Schwarz, C. V., Reiser, B. J., Davis, E. A., Kenyon, L., Achér, A., Fortus, D., Scwartz, Y., Hug, B., &amp; Krajcik, J. (2009). Developing a learning progression for scientific modeling: Making scientific modeling accessible and meaningful for learners. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 46(6), 632-654. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.jigsawprods.com/podcast/search-engine/" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast with PJ Vogt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham Season 3</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss one of the most cited articles from the Journal of Research in Science Teaching: </p>

<p>Schwarz, C. V., Reiser, B. J., Davis, E. A., Kenyon, L., Achér, A., Fortus, D., Scwartz, Y., Hug, B., &amp; Krajcik, J. (2009). Developing a learning progression for scientific modeling: Making scientific modeling accessible and meaningful for learners. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 46(6), 632-654. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.jigsawprods.com/podcast/search-engine/" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast with PJ Vogt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham Season 3</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss one of the most cited articles from the Journal of Research in Science Teaching: </p>

<p>Schwarz, C. V., Reiser, B. J., Davis, E. A., Kenyon, L., Achér, A., Fortus, D., Scwartz, Y., Hug, B., &amp; Krajcik, J. (2009). Developing a learning progression for scientific modeling: Making scientific modeling accessible and meaningful for learners. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 46(6), 632-654. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20311</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.jigsawprods.com/podcast/search-engine/" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast with PJ Vogt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham Season 3</a><br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 192: Start with the Kid</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about special education, students identified with special needs, and how we can support them in ambitious and equitable science teaching classrooms. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:21</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about special education, students identified with special needs, and how we can support them in ambitious and equitable science teaching classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Graduations<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajw425Kuvtw" rel="nofollow">One Love</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about special education, students identified with special needs, and how we can support them in ambitious and equitable science teaching classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Graduations<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajw425Kuvtw" rel="nofollow">One Love</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about special education, students identified with special needs, and how we can support them in ambitious and equitable science teaching classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Graduations<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajw425Kuvtw" rel="nofollow">One Love</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 191: Albert Einstein... You're wrong!</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 May 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how the words we use to describe students' ideas matter.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:25</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how the words we use to describe students&#39; ideas matter.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.taschen.com/en/books/architecture-design/04634/koolhaas-elements-of-architecture" rel="nofollow">Elements of Architecture by Rem Koolhaas</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how the words we use to describe students&#39; ideas matter.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.taschen.com/en/books/architecture-design/04634/koolhaas-elements-of-architecture" rel="nofollow">Elements of Architecture by Rem Koolhaas</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss how the words we use to describe students&#39; ideas matter.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.taschen.com/en/books/architecture-design/04634/koolhaas-elements-of-architecture" rel="nofollow">Elements of Architecture by Rem Koolhaas</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 190: A Litany of Vague Expectations</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about time management, work/life balance, and what it all means for teaching, learning and research.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>53:15</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about time management, work/life balance, and what it all means for teaching, learning and research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks" rel="nofollow">Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals</a> by Oliver Burkeman<br>
[End of Story](End of Story) by A.J. Finn</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about time management, work/life balance, and what it all means for teaching, learning and research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks" rel="nofollow">Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals</a> by Oliver Burkeman<br>
[End of Story](End of Story) by A.J. Finn</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about time management, work/life balance, and what it all means for teaching, learning and research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54785515-four-thousand-weeks" rel="nofollow">Four Thousand Weeks: Time Management for Mortals</a> by Oliver Burkeman<br>
[End of Story](End of Story) by A.J. Finn</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 189: Wait a Minute, Mr. Postman</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a technological change in the wake of generative artificial intelligence by unpacking a chapter from the book, Exploring New Horizons: Generative Artificial Intelligence and Teacher Education</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:51</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a chapter from the book <a href="https://www.learntechlib.org/primary/d/223928" rel="nofollow">Exploring New Horizons: Generative Artificial Intelligence and Teacher Education</a> (Searson et al, 2024). The chapter references Neil Postman&#39;s 1998 speech titled <a href="https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/%7Erogaway/classes/188/materials/postman.pdf" rel="nofollow">Five Things We Need to Know About Technological Change</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spiegelandgrau.com/go-as-a-river" rel="nofollow">Go As A River by Shelley Read</a><br>
Doctoral students that develop as scholars (Being a proud papa)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a chapter from the book <a href="https://www.learntechlib.org/primary/d/223928" rel="nofollow">Exploring New Horizons: Generative Artificial Intelligence and Teacher Education</a> (Searson et al, 2024). The chapter references Neil Postman&#39;s 1998 speech titled <a href="https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/%7Erogaway/classes/188/materials/postman.pdf" rel="nofollow">Five Things We Need to Know About Technological Change</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spiegelandgrau.com/go-as-a-river" rel="nofollow">Go As A River by Shelley Read</a><br>
Doctoral students that develop as scholars (Being a proud papa)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss a chapter from the book <a href="https://www.learntechlib.org/primary/d/223928" rel="nofollow">Exploring New Horizons: Generative Artificial Intelligence and Teacher Education</a> (Searson et al, 2024). The chapter references Neil Postman&#39;s 1998 speech titled <a href="https://web.cs.ucdavis.edu/%7Erogaway/classes/188/materials/postman.pdf" rel="nofollow">Five Things We Need to Know About Technological Change</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spiegelandgrau.com/go-as-a-river" rel="nofollow">Go As A River by Shelley Read</a><br>
Doctoral students that develop as scholars (Being a proud papa)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 188: Might Be a Two-Headed Elephant</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2024 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how preparing teachers to teach science is challenged by a lack of coherence and curriculum. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:12</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how preparing teachers to teach science is challenged by a lack of coherence and curriculum. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/pirates" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Pirates</a> <br>
<a href="https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/where-when/" rel="nofollow">Total Solar Eclipse of 2024</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how preparing teachers to teach science is challenged by a lack of coherence and curriculum. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/pirates" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Pirates</a> <br>
<a href="https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/where-when/" rel="nofollow">Total Solar Eclipse of 2024</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how preparing teachers to teach science is challenged by a lack of coherence and curriculum. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.mlb.com/pirates" rel="nofollow">Pittsburgh Pirates</a> <br>
<a href="https://science.nasa.gov/eclipses/future-eclipses/eclipse-2024/where-when/" rel="nofollow">Total Solar Eclipse of 2024</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 187: Enthusiasm and Obfuscation</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss leading professional development to support ongoing changes in teachers&#39; thinking.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-on-this-train-is-a-suspect-benjamin-stevenson?variant=41281421475874" rel="nofollow">Everyone on this Train is a Suspect</a><br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/aoi/" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss leading professional development to support ongoing changes in teachers&#39; thinking.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-on-this-train-is-a-suspect-benjamin-stevenson?variant=41281421475874" rel="nofollow">Everyone on this Train is a Suspect</a><br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/aoi/" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-on-this-train-is-a-suspect-benjamin-stevenson?variant=41281421475874" rel="nofollow">Everyone on this Train is a Suspect</a><br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/aoi/" rel="nofollow">Articles of Interest</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 186: Blinded Feedback</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about peer review and how important it is for science and science education. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about peer review and how important it is for science and science education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goldbelly.com/collections/best-sellers?ref=huge&ref_pagetype=homepage" rel="nofollow">Good food delivery</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80057883" rel="nofollow">Abstract: The Art of Design</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goldbelly.com/collections/best-sellers?ref=huge&ref_pagetype=homepage" rel="nofollow">Good food delivery</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80057883" rel="nofollow">Abstract: The Art of Design</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goldbelly.com/collections/best-sellers?ref=huge&ref_pagetype=homepage" rel="nofollow">Good food delivery</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80057883" rel="nofollow">Abstract: The Art of Design</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 185: The Great Divide</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the US Department of Education's 2024 National Educational Technology Plan.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the US Department of Education&#39;s 2024 National Educational Technology Plan. The plan can be accessed at: <a href="https://tech.ed.gov/netp/" rel="nofollow">https://tech.ed.gov/netp/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/kids-of-rutherford-county-podcast-episodes" rel="nofollow">Kids of Rutherford County podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/734476/martyr-by-kaveh-akbar/" rel="nofollow">Martyr by Kaveh Akbar</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the US Department of Education&#39;s 2024 National Educational Technology Plan. The plan can be accessed at: <a href="https://tech.ed.gov/netp/" rel="nofollow">https://tech.ed.gov/netp/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/kids-of-rutherford-county-podcast-episodes" rel="nofollow">Kids of Rutherford County podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/734476/martyr-by-kaveh-akbar/" rel="nofollow">Martyr by Kaveh Akbar</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the US Department of Education&#39;s 2024 National Educational Technology Plan. The plan can be accessed at: <a href="https://tech.ed.gov/netp/" rel="nofollow">https://tech.ed.gov/netp/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.propublica.org/article/kids-of-rutherford-county-podcast-episodes" rel="nofollow">Kids of Rutherford County podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/734476/martyr-by-kaveh-akbar/" rel="nofollow">Martyr by Kaveh Akbar</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 184: Don't Get Stuck in the Noun</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we are talkin' about practice (not the Allen Iverson version). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we are talking about practice (not the Allen Iverson version). We want to dig in a little deeper into why we care so much about practice and how it is different to other ways of characterizing science activity like inquiry, lab skills, or the scientific method.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://pjvogt.substack.com" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81256740" rel="nofollow">One Day</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we are talking about practice (not the Allen Iverson version). We want to dig in a little deeper into why we care so much about practice and how it is different to other ways of characterizing science activity like inquiry, lab skills, or the scientific method.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://pjvogt.substack.com" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81256740" rel="nofollow">One Day</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we are talking about practice (not the Allen Iverson version). We want to dig in a little deeper into why we care so much about practice and how it is different to other ways of characterizing science activity like inquiry, lab skills, or the scientific method.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://pjvogt.substack.com" rel="nofollow">Search Engine Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81256740" rel="nofollow">One Day</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 183: We Do Not Like Them Anywhere</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss educational words, concepts and practices that we hate.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss educational words, concepts and practices that we hate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.anatomyofafall.film/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a><br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/erasure" rel="nofollow">Erasure by Percival Everett</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss educational words, concepts and practices that we hate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.anatomyofafall.film/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a><br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/erasure" rel="nofollow">Erasure by Percival Everett</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss educational words, concepts and practices that we hate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.anatomyofafall.film/" rel="nofollow">Anatomy of a Fall</a><br>
<a href="https://www.graywolfpress.org/books/erasure" rel="nofollow">Erasure by Percival Everett</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 182: My Manatee Teacher</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about an article about transparency and invisibility that Scott wrote, Ollie was a participant in the research underlying the article and neither of our manatee brains remembers it. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about an article about transparence and invisibility that Scott wrote, Ollie was a participant in the research underlying the article and neither of our manatee brains remembers it.</p>

<p>McDonald, S. P. (2016). The Transparent and the Invisible in Professional Pedagogical Vision for Science Teaching. School Science &amp; Mathematics, 116(2), 95–103. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-last-repair-shop-62484db8-0fcd-404a-ae0e-37c05f693fdf#" rel="nofollow">The Last Repair Shop</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jamesacaster.com/repertoire/" rel="nofollow">James Acaster&#39;s Repertoire</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about an article about transparence and invisibility that Scott wrote, Ollie was a participant in the research underlying the article and neither of our manatee brains remembers it.</p>

<p>McDonald, S. P. (2016). The Transparent and the Invisible in Professional Pedagogical Vision for Science Teaching. School Science &amp; Mathematics, 116(2), 95–103. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-last-repair-shop-62484db8-0fcd-404a-ae0e-37c05f693fdf#" rel="nofollow">The Last Repair Shop</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jamesacaster.com/repertoire/" rel="nofollow">James Acaster&#39;s Repertoire</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about an article about transparence and invisibility that Scott wrote, Ollie was a participant in the research underlying the article and neither of our manatee brains remembers it.</p>

<p>McDonald, S. P. (2016). The Transparent and the Invisible in Professional Pedagogical Vision for Science Teaching. School Science &amp; Mathematics, 116(2), 95–103. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1111/ssm.12156</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/movie/the-last-repair-shop-62484db8-0fcd-404a-ae0e-37c05f693fdf#" rel="nofollow">The Last Repair Shop</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jamesacaster.com/repertoire/" rel="nofollow">James Acaster&#39;s Repertoire</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 181: Talking about a Recognition</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the article from the Journal of Research of Science Teaching (JRST) which is been cited the most over the last three years.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:28</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the article from the Journal of Research of Science Teaching (JRST) which is been cited the most over the last three years: </p>

<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.20237" rel="nofollow">Carlone, H. B., &amp; Johnson, A. (2007). Understanding the science experiences of successful women of color: Science identity as an analytic lens. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 44(8), 1187-1218.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/poor-things/" rel="nofollow">Poor Things</a><br>
<a href="https://magicpuzzlecompany.com/" rel="nofollow">Magic Jigsaw Puzzles</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the article from the Journal of Research of Science Teaching (JRST) which is been cited the most over the last three years: </p>

<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.20237" rel="nofollow">Carlone, H. B., &amp; Johnson, A. (2007). Understanding the science experiences of successful women of color: Science identity as an analytic lens. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 44(8), 1187-1218.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/poor-things/" rel="nofollow">Poor Things</a><br>
<a href="https://magicpuzzlecompany.com/" rel="nofollow">Magic Jigsaw Puzzles</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the article from the Journal of Research of Science Teaching (JRST) which is been cited the most over the last three years: </p>

<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/tea.20237" rel="nofollow">Carlone, H. B., &amp; Johnson, A. (2007). Understanding the science experiences of successful women of color: Science identity as an analytic lens. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 44(8), 1187-1218.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/poor-things/" rel="nofollow">Poor Things</a><br>
<a href="https://magicpuzzlecompany.com/" rel="nofollow">Magic Jigsaw Puzzles</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 180: A Bucket Full of Lists</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about leadership, mostly in K-12 schools, but also a bit in higher education. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:35</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about leadership, mostly in K-12 schools, but also a bit in higher education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23561236/" rel="nofollow">American Fiction</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/125528355-fugitive-pedagogy" rel="nofollow">Fugitive Pedagogy: Carter G. Woodson and the Art of Black Teaching</a> by Jarvis R. Givens</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about leadership, mostly in K-12 schools, but also a bit in higher education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23561236/" rel="nofollow">American Fiction</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/125528355-fugitive-pedagogy" rel="nofollow">Fugitive Pedagogy: Carter G. Woodson and the Art of Black Teaching</a> by Jarvis R. Givens</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about leadership, mostly in K-12 schools, but also a bit in higher education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt23561236/" rel="nofollow">American Fiction</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/125528355-fugitive-pedagogy" rel="nofollow">Fugitive Pedagogy: Carter G. Woodson and the Art of Black Teaching</a> by Jarvis R. Givens</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 179: Back in Our Prime</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Feb 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the role that AI tools should play in the development of beginning researchers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:05:03</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role that AI tools should play in the development of beginning researchers. We introduce the following tools:</p>

<p><a href="https://elicit.com" rel="nofollow">Elicit</a><br>
<a href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Copilot</a><br>
<a href="https://claude.ai/chats" rel="nofollow">Claude</a><br>
<a href="https://app.litmaps.com/library" rel="nofollow">LitMaps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.connectedpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Connected papers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai/" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a><br>
<a href="https://consensus.app" rel="nofollow">Consensus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.miramax.com/movie/The-Holdovers/" rel="nofollow">The Holdovers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/all-of-us-strangers/" rel="nofollow">All of Us Strangers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role that AI tools should play in the development of beginning researchers. We introduce the following tools:</p>

<p><a href="https://elicit.com" rel="nofollow">Elicit</a><br>
<a href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Copilot</a><br>
<a href="https://claude.ai/chats" rel="nofollow">Claude</a><br>
<a href="https://app.litmaps.com/library" rel="nofollow">LitMaps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.connectedpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Connected papers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai/" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a><br>
<a href="https://consensus.app" rel="nofollow">Consensus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.miramax.com/movie/The-Holdovers/" rel="nofollow">The Holdovers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/all-of-us-strangers/" rel="nofollow">All of Us Strangers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role that AI tools should play in the development of beginning researchers. We introduce the following tools:</p>

<p><a href="https://elicit.com" rel="nofollow">Elicit</a><br>
<a href="https://copilot.microsoft.com/" rel="nofollow">Microsoft Copilot</a><br>
<a href="https://claude.ai/chats" rel="nofollow">Claude</a><br>
<a href="https://app.litmaps.com/library" rel="nofollow">LitMaps</a><br>
<a href="https://www.connectedpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Connected papers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai/" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a><br>
<a href="https://consensus.app" rel="nofollow">Consensus</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.miramax.com/movie/The-Holdovers/" rel="nofollow">The Holdovers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.searchlightpictures.com/all-of-us-strangers/" rel="nofollow">All of Us Strangers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 178: Flexing Your Affordances</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/0b776cf6-8cb4-4683-b619-faca8fa81941.mp3" length="26159565" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we at least start out talking about learning spaces, both virtual and physical, but we wander a bit from there. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:29</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we at least start out talking about learning spaces, both virtual and physical, but we wander a bit from there. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123979806-nuts-and-bolts" rel="nofollow">Nuts and Bolts: Seven Small Inventions That Changed the World in a Big Way</a> by Roma Agrawal<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2812032-the-right-mistake" rel="nofollow">The Right Mistake</a> by Walter Mosley</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we at least start out talking about learning spaces, both virtual and physical, but we wander a bit from there. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123979806-nuts-and-bolts" rel="nofollow">Nuts and Bolts: Seven Small Inventions That Changed the World in a Big Way</a> by Roma Agrawal<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2812032-the-right-mistake" rel="nofollow">The Right Mistake</a> by Walter Mosley</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we at least start out talking about learning spaces, both virtual and physical, but we wander a bit from there. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/123979806-nuts-and-bolts" rel="nofollow">Nuts and Bolts: Seven Small Inventions That Changed the World in a Big Way</a> by Roma Agrawal<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2812032-the-right-mistake" rel="nofollow">The Right Mistake</a> by Walter Mosley</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 177: Stuff We Think We Know</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/77f92719-b4e8-4844-8fd9-a02335196629.mp3" length="28881942" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss "10 Education Studies from 2023 that You Should Know" from Education Week. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:00:09</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss &quot;10 Education Studies from 2023 that You Should Know&quot; from Education Week. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&utm_medium=eml&utm_campaign=eu&M=8614276&UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&T=11418127" rel="nofollow">https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&amp;utm_medium=eml&amp;utm_campaign=eu&amp;M=8614276&amp;UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&amp;T=11418127</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://cerakoteceramics.com/cerakote-ceramic-headlight-restoration-kit/" rel="nofollow">Cerakote Headlight Restoration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leighbardugo.com/book/ninth-house/" rel="nofollow">Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss &quot;10 Education Studies from 2023 that You Should Know&quot; from Education Week. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&utm_medium=eml&utm_campaign=eu&M=8614276&UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&T=11418127" rel="nofollow">https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&amp;utm_medium=eml&amp;utm_campaign=eu&amp;M=8614276&amp;UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&amp;T=11418127</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://cerakoteceramics.com/cerakote-ceramic-headlight-restoration-kit/" rel="nofollow">Cerakote Headlight Restoration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leighbardugo.com/book/ninth-house/" rel="nofollow">Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss &quot;10 Education Studies from 2023 that You Should Know&quot; from Education Week. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&utm_medium=eml&utm_campaign=eu&M=8614276&UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&T=11418127" rel="nofollow">https://www.edweek.org/leadership/10-education-studies-you-should-know-from-2023/2023/12?utm_source=nl&amp;utm_medium=eml&amp;utm_campaign=eu&amp;M=8614276&amp;UUID=00e12bd8a61b87f3c64166df19fe4b41&amp;T=11418127</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://cerakoteceramics.com/cerakote-ceramic-headlight-restoration-kit/" rel="nofollow">Cerakote Headlight Restoration</a><br>
<a href="https://www.leighbardugo.com/book/ninth-house/" rel="nofollow">Ninth House by Leigh Bardugo</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 176: Stars of Many Colors</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about perfectionism, grades, and systems of evaluation and how they impact learners and us as humans. </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20170404-station-eleven" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a> by Emily St. John Mandel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808430-dr-no" rel="nofollow">Dr. No</a> by Percival Everett</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20170404-station-eleven" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a> by Emily St. John Mandel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808430-dr-no" rel="nofollow">Dr. No</a> by Percival Everett</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about perfectionism, grades, and systems of evaluation and how they impact learners and us as humans. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/20170404-station-eleven" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a> by Emily St. John Mandel<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808430-dr-no" rel="nofollow">Dr. No</a> by Percival Everett</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 175: Not Scott's Bucket List</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss a recent Adam Grant podcast and the role that the arts play in education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:37</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here, we discuss a recent episode of the podcast, WorkLife with Adam Grant. In that episode, Grant meets with Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen, the authors of the book &quot;Your Brain on Art.&quot;  We also chat about research showing the correlation between the arts and award-winning artists.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kendell-Pawelec/publication/247857346_Arts_Foster_Scientific_Success_Avocations_of_Nobel_National_Academy_Royal_Society_and_Sigma_Xi_Members/links/00b4953c00f875f191000000/Arts-Foster-Scientific-Success-Avocations-of-Nobel-National-Academy-Royal-Society-and-Sigma-Xi-Members.pdf" rel="nofollow">Arts Foster Scientific Success: Avocations of Nobel, National Academy, Royal Society, and Sigma Xi Members</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a46167775/reacher-amazon-prime-video-release-schedule/" rel="nofollow">Jack Reacher Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses Season 3</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>Here, we discuss a recent episode of the podcast, WorkLife with Adam Grant. In that episode, Grant meets with Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen, the authors of the book &quot;Your Brain on Art.&quot;  We also chat about research showing the correlation between the arts and award-winning artists.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kendell-Pawelec/publication/247857346_Arts_Foster_Scientific_Success_Avocations_of_Nobel_National_Academy_Royal_Society_and_Sigma_Xi_Members/links/00b4953c00f875f191000000/Arts-Foster-Scientific-Success-Avocations-of-Nobel-National-Academy-Royal-Society-and-Sigma-Xi-Members.pdf" rel="nofollow">Arts Foster Scientific Success: Avocations of Nobel, National Academy, Royal Society, and Sigma Xi Members</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a46167775/reacher-amazon-prime-video-release-schedule/" rel="nofollow">Jack Reacher Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Here, we discuss a recent episode of the podcast, WorkLife with Adam Grant. In that episode, Grant meets with Ivy Ross and Susan Magsamen, the authors of the book &quot;Your Brain on Art.&quot;  We also chat about research showing the correlation between the arts and award-winning artists.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Kendell-Pawelec/publication/247857346_Arts_Foster_Scientific_Success_Avocations_of_Nobel_National_Academy_Royal_Society_and_Sigma_Xi_Members/links/00b4953c00f875f191000000/Arts-Foster-Scientific-Success-Avocations-of-Nobel-National-Academy-Royal-Society-and-Sigma-Xi-Members.pdf" rel="nofollow">Arts Foster Scientific Success: Avocations of Nobel, National Academy, Royal Society, and Sigma Xi Members</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a46167775/reacher-amazon-prime-video-release-schedule/" rel="nofollow">Jack Reacher Season 2</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/slow-horses/umc.cmc.2szz3fdt71tl1ulnbp8utgq5o" rel="nofollow">Slow Horses Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 174: Outgroup Bucket List</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2024 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk outgroup dehumanization and how we put people in buckets of us and them. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to 2024! Look at us, we made it. This week we talk outgroup dehumanization and how we put people in buckets of us and them. What is the consequence of our tribal nature has humans and the way that makes us willing to treat people that our not in our tribe in dehumanizing ways?</p>

<p><a href="https://pod.link/1346314086/episode/d9666abeb8f6159105fa6010e491983b" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Life</a> podcast episode with Elliot Aronson </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62919162-whalefall" rel="nofollow">Whalefall</a> by Daniel Kraus<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15893750" rel="nofollow">Rye Lane</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to 2024! Look at us, we made it. This week we talk outgroup dehumanization and how we put people in buckets of us and them. What is the consequence of our tribal nature has humans and the way that makes us willing to treat people that our not in our tribe in dehumanizing ways?</p>

<p><a href="https://pod.link/1346314086/episode/d9666abeb8f6159105fa6010e491983b" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Life</a> podcast episode with Elliot Aronson </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62919162-whalefall" rel="nofollow">Whalefall</a> by Daniel Kraus<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15893750" rel="nofollow">Rye Lane</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Welcome to 2024! Look at us, we made it. This week we talk outgroup dehumanization and how we put people in buckets of us and them. What is the consequence of our tribal nature has humans and the way that makes us willing to treat people that our not in our tribe in dehumanizing ways?</p>

<p><a href="https://pod.link/1346314086/episode/d9666abeb8f6159105fa6010e491983b" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Life</a> podcast episode with Elliot Aronson </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/62919162-whalefall" rel="nofollow">Whalefall</a> by Daniel Kraus<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15893750" rel="nofollow">Rye Lane</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 173: The Show Before the Show</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this special holiday edition, Scott and Ollie record their pointless banter before the show.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:21</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special holiday edition, Scott and Ollie record their pointless banter before the show.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://noahkahan.com/#/" rel="nofollow">Noah Kahan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81013505" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show Holidays</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special holiday edition, Scott and Ollie record their pointless banter before the show.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://noahkahan.com/#/" rel="nofollow">Noah Kahan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81013505" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show Holidays</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this special holiday edition, Scott and Ollie record their pointless banter before the show.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://noahkahan.com/#/" rel="nofollow">Noah Kahan</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81013505" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show Holidays</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 172: Not Just Nonsense</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the research that we do when we are not talking to each other on the podcast. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:31</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the research that we do when we are not talking to each other on the podcast. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://sufjanstevens.bandcamp.com/album/songs-for-christmas" rel="nofollow">Sufjan Stevens - Songs for Christmas</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58210933-trust" rel="nofollow">Trust by Hernan Diaz</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the research that we do when we are not talking to each other on the podcast. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://sufjanstevens.bandcamp.com/album/songs-for-christmas" rel="nofollow">Sufjan Stevens - Songs for Christmas</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58210933-trust" rel="nofollow">Trust by Hernan Diaz</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the research that we do when we are not talking to each other on the podcast. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://sufjanstevens.bandcamp.com/album/songs-for-christmas" rel="nofollow">Sufjan Stevens - Songs for Christmas</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58210933-trust" rel="nofollow">Trust by Hernan Diaz</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 171: A Simulating Conversation</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the role of computer simulations in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of computer simulations in science education.</p>

<p>Some resources we share in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://phet.colorado.edu/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations" rel="nofollow">https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/" rel="nofollow">https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.realsimple.com/holidays-entertaining/holidays/christmas/advent-calendars?&globeTest_visualSummaryList=0&utm_source=googlepaid&utm_medium=con&utm_content=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE&utm_campaign=commerce-dd-AdventCalendars_RealSimple_Desktop_CommSEM_OrganicLP-6381848&utm_term=advent%20calendars&utm_test=&gclid=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Advent Calendars</a><br>
<a href="https://www.the8mile.com/" rel="nofollow">8 Mile Pizza</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of computer simulations in science education.</p>

<p>Some resources we share in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://phet.colorado.edu/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations" rel="nofollow">https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/" rel="nofollow">https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.realsimple.com/holidays-entertaining/holidays/christmas/advent-calendars?&globeTest_visualSummaryList=0&utm_source=googlepaid&utm_medium=con&utm_content=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE&utm_campaign=commerce-dd-AdventCalendars_RealSimple_Desktop_CommSEM_OrganicLP-6381848&utm_term=advent%20calendars&utm_test=&gclid=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Advent Calendars</a><br>
<a href="https://www.the8mile.com/" rel="nofollow">8 Mile Pizza</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the role of computer simulations in science education.</p>

<p>Some resources we share in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu/" rel="nofollow">https://phet.colorado.edu/</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations" rel="nofollow">https://www.nsta.org/teaching-simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/" rel="nofollow">https://www.openscied.org/simulation-library/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.realsimple.com/holidays-entertaining/holidays/christmas/advent-calendars?&globeTest_visualSummaryList=0&utm_source=googlepaid&utm_medium=con&utm_content=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE&utm_campaign=commerce-dd-AdventCalendars_RealSimple_Desktop_CommSEM_OrganicLP-6381848&utm_term=advent%20calendars&utm_test=&gclid=CjwKCAiAjrarBhAWEiwA2qWdCCNAfcvhUh991KOmLsw9PUdI6gVpHmAhikRk0xBTCEVDXMm3zMbNpBoC4LkQAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Advent Calendars</a><br>
<a href="https://www.the8mile.com/" rel="nofollow">8 Mile Pizza</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 170: Uncomfortable Transitions</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/170</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Dec 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the importance of discomfort in learning.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:35</itunes:duration>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the importance of discomfort in learning. Inspired by reading:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157095669-hidden-potential" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential</a> by Adam Grant</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60526801-the-passenger" rel="nofollow">The Passenger</a> by Cormac McCarthy<br>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/grapevine-podcast" rel="nofollow">Grapevine Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the importance of discomfort in learning. Inspired by reading:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157095669-hidden-potential" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential</a> by Adam Grant</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60526801-the-passenger" rel="nofollow">The Passenger</a> by Cormac McCarthy<br>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/grapevine-podcast" rel="nofollow">Grapevine Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the importance of discomfort in learning. Inspired by reading:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/157095669-hidden-potential" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential</a> by Adam Grant</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/60526801-the-passenger" rel="nofollow">The Passenger</a> by Cormac McCarthy<br>
<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/grapevine-podcast" rel="nofollow">Grapevine Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 169: Add It Up</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/169</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/34a22b54-cc22-4833-acdf-a3d7c4f85f20.mp3" length="19335545" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the NCTM standards and teaching practices and how they compare to the NGSS standards.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:16</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the NCTM standards and teaching practices and how they compare to the NGSS standards.<br>
<a href="https://www.nctm.org/uploadedFiles/Standards_and_Positions/PtAExecutiveSummary.pdf" rel="nofollow">NCTM Principles to Action</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401520434" rel="nofollow">College Football: Michigan vs. Ohio State</a><br>
<a href="https://shop.tootsie.com/Tootsie-Roll-Snowballs-35-oz-Bag/p/CHR-TR021354&c=TootsieRoll@Christmas" rel="nofollow">Tootsie Roll Snowballs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the NCTM standards and teaching practices and how they compare to the NGSS standards.<br>
<a href="https://www.nctm.org/uploadedFiles/Standards_and_Positions/PtAExecutiveSummary.pdf" rel="nofollow">NCTM Principles to Action</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401520434" rel="nofollow">College Football: Michigan vs. Ohio State</a><br>
<a href="https://shop.tootsie.com/Tootsie-Roll-Snowballs-35-oz-Bag/p/CHR-TR021354&c=TootsieRoll@Christmas" rel="nofollow">Tootsie Roll Snowballs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the NCTM standards and teaching practices and how they compare to the NGSS standards.<br>
<a href="https://www.nctm.org/uploadedFiles/Standards_and_Positions/PtAExecutiveSummary.pdf" rel="nofollow">NCTM Principles to Action</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/college-football/game/_/gameId/401520434" rel="nofollow">College Football: Michigan vs. Ohio State</a><br>
<a href="https://shop.tootsie.com/Tootsie-Roll-Snowballs-35-oz-Bag/p/CHR-TR021354&c=TootsieRoll@Christmas" rel="nofollow">Tootsie Roll Snowballs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 168: The Holiday Uncle Test</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/168</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about The School of Thought, in particular the new Conspiracy Test that asks people to examine their own thinking.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>35:29</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about The School of Thought, in particular the new Conspiracy Test that asks people to examine their own thinking. We make connections to how students learn and how to have civil conversations at the holidays.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.schoolofthought.org" rel="nofollow">School of Thought </a><br>
<a href="https://theconspiracytest.org" rel="nofollow">The Conspiracy Test</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies, in particular <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369436/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_four%2520chri" rel="nofollow">Four Christmases </a><br>
<a href="https://sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio</a>, in particular the series <a href="https://sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/" rel="nofollow">Seeing White</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about The School of Thought, in particular the new Conspiracy Test that asks people to examine their own thinking. We make connections to how students learn and how to have civil conversations at the holidays.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.schoolofthought.org" rel="nofollow">School of Thought </a><br>
<a href="https://theconspiracytest.org" rel="nofollow">The Conspiracy Test</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies, in particular <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369436/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_four%2520chri" rel="nofollow">Four Christmases </a><br>
<a href="https://sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio</a>, in particular the series <a href="https://sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/" rel="nofollow">Seeing White</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about The School of Thought, in particular the new Conspiracy Test that asks people to examine their own thinking. We make connections to how students learn and how to have civil conversations at the holidays.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.schoolofthought.org" rel="nofollow">School of Thought </a><br>
<a href="https://theconspiracytest.org" rel="nofollow">The Conspiracy Test</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Holiday Movies, in particular <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0369436/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_8_nm_0_q_four%2520chri" rel="nofollow">Four Christmases </a><br>
<a href="https://sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio</a>, in particular the series <a href="https://sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/" rel="nofollow">Seeing White</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 167: One Query, Two Query, Red Query, Blue Query</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss different ethical scenarios that relate to the use of generative AI in academic situations.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:54</itunes:duration>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss different ethical scenarios that relate to the use of generative AI in academic situations.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.beirutband.com/" rel="nofollow">Hadsel by Beirut</a><br>
<a href="https://thesquirrelandacornbookshop.com/" rel="nofollow">The Squirrel and Acorn Bookstore</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss different ethical scenarios that relate to the use of generative AI in academic situations.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.beirutband.com/" rel="nofollow">Hadsel by Beirut</a><br>
<a href="https://thesquirrelandacornbookshop.com/" rel="nofollow">The Squirrel and Acorn Bookstore</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss different ethical scenarios that relate to the use of generative AI in academic situations.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.beirutband.com/" rel="nofollow">Hadsel by Beirut</a><br>
<a href="https://thesquirrelandacornbookshop.com/" rel="nofollow">The Squirrel and Acorn Bookstore</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 166: Fidelity Landmines</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the complexity of "scaling up," or how we try and spread innovations in practice. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:54</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the complexity of &quot;scaling up,&quot; or how we try and spread innovations in practice. We unpack the notion of fidelity and what it means when you want to avoid deficit positioning of learners and hierarchical notions of change.  </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">The Banshees of Inisherin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the complexity of &quot;scaling up,&quot; or how we try and spread innovations in practice. We unpack the notion of fidelity and what it means when you want to avoid deficit positioning of learners and hierarchical notions of change.  </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">The Banshees of Inisherin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the complexity of &quot;scaling up,&quot; or how we try and spread innovations in practice. We unpack the notion of fidelity and what it means when you want to avoid deficit positioning of learners and hierarchical notions of change.  </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">The Banshees of Inisherin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.researchrabbit.ai" rel="nofollow">Research Rabbit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 165: Fallacious Beasts and Where to Find Them</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Nov 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss logical fallacies and how they apply to science education reform efforts.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:49</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss logical fallacies and how they apply to science education reform efforts. Some resources from this episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/audible-reckoning-how-top-political-podcasters-spread-unsubstantiated-and-false-claims/" rel="nofollow">Audible Reckoning:  How top political podcasters spread unsubstantiated and false claims (Brookings Institute, 2023)</a><br>
<a href="https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/fallacies/" rel="nofollow">Some logical fallacies</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential by Adam Grant</a><br>
<a href="http://www.make-stuff.com/" rel="nofollow">Make Stuff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss logical fallacies and how they apply to science education reform efforts. Some resources from this episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/audible-reckoning-how-top-political-podcasters-spread-unsubstantiated-and-false-claims/" rel="nofollow">Audible Reckoning:  How top political podcasters spread unsubstantiated and false claims (Brookings Institute, 2023)</a><br>
<a href="https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/fallacies/" rel="nofollow">Some logical fallacies</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential by Adam Grant</a><br>
<a href="http://www.make-stuff.com/" rel="nofollow">Make Stuff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss logical fallacies and how they apply to science education reform efforts. Some resources from this episode include:<br>
<a href="https://www.brookings.edu/articles/audible-reckoning-how-top-political-podcasters-spread-unsubstantiated-and-false-claims/" rel="nofollow">Audible Reckoning:  How top political podcasters spread unsubstantiated and false claims (Brookings Institute, 2023)</a><br>
<a href="https://writingcenter.unc.edu/tips-and-tools/fallacies/" rel="nofollow">Some logical fallacies</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/hidden-potential/" rel="nofollow">Hidden Potential by Adam Grant</a><br>
<a href="http://www.make-stuff.com/" rel="nofollow">Make Stuff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 164: Old and Regular Practices</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the engineering practices, which were added to the science practices as part of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:35</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the engineering practices, which were added to the science practices as part of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877368/" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19296314/" rel="nofollow">Tour de France Unchained </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the engineering practices, which were added to the science practices as part of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877368/" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19296314/" rel="nofollow">Tour de France Unchained </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the engineering practices, which were added to the science practices as part of the Next Generation Science Standards (NGSS).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877368/" rel="nofollow">Great British Baking Show</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19296314/" rel="nofollow">Tour de France Unchained </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 163: Caught in Charlotte's Web</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we attempt to do a cross-walk between Charlotte Danielson's Framework for Teaching and the Next Generation Science Standards and Ambitious Science Teaching.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:52</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we attempt to do a cross-walk between Charlotte Danielson&#39;s Framework for Teaching and the Next Generation Science Standards and Ambitious Science Teaching. In our conversation, we draw on the following the documents:</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">New Jersey&#39;s Science Instruction Companion to the Danielson Framework</a><br>
<a href="https://curriculum.newvisions.org/science/danielson-3b-science/" rel="nofollow">New Vision for Public Schools&#39; Science Look Fors</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Winners/Fredrik-Backman/Beartown-Series/9781982112806" rel="nofollow">The Winners by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/demon-copperhead-barbara-kingsolver?variant=40073146204194" rel="nofollow">Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we attempt to do a cross-walk between Charlotte Danielson&#39;s Framework for Teaching and the Next Generation Science Standards and Ambitious Science Teaching. In our conversation, we draw on the following the documents:</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">New Jersey&#39;s Science Instruction Companion to the Danielson Framework</a><br>
<a href="https://curriculum.newvisions.org/science/danielson-3b-science/" rel="nofollow">New Vision for Public Schools&#39; Science Look Fors</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Winners/Fredrik-Backman/Beartown-Series/9781982112806" rel="nofollow">The Winners by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/demon-copperhead-barbara-kingsolver?variant=40073146204194" rel="nofollow">Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we attempt to do a cross-walk between Charlotte Danielson&#39;s Framework for Teaching and the Next Generation Science Standards and Ambitious Science Teaching. In our conversation, we draw on the following the documents:</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">New Jersey&#39;s Science Instruction Companion to the Danielson Framework</a><br>
<a href="https://curriculum.newvisions.org/science/danielson-3b-science/" rel="nofollow">New Vision for Public Schools&#39; Science Look Fors</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Winners/Fredrik-Backman/Beartown-Series/9781982112806" rel="nofollow">The Winners by Fredrik Backman</a><br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/demon-copperhead-barbara-kingsolver?variant=40073146204194" rel="nofollow">Demon Copperhead by Barbara Kingsolver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 162: Your Cultural Cookies</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/162</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cf8c20a1-c04c-4cc2-802f-f18317534d36.mp3" length="21380411" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how we talk about the social and political consequences of science as part of what we do in Ambitious Science Teaching classrooms.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:32</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how we talk about the social and political consequences of science as part of what we do in Ambitious Science Teaching classrooms.</p>

<p>Heraclitius - <a href="https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/heraclitus_107157" rel="nofollow">Never step in the same river twice...</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Fall/Autumn Weather (Sweater Weather)<br>
<a href="https://dancoecarto.com/4k-rivers" rel="nofollow">Dan Coe Carto</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how we talk about the social and political consequences of science as part of what we do in Ambitious Science Teaching classrooms.</p>

<p>Heraclitius - <a href="https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/heraclitus_107157" rel="nofollow">Never step in the same river twice...</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Fall/Autumn Weather (Sweater Weather)<br>
<a href="https://dancoecarto.com/4k-rivers" rel="nofollow">Dan Coe Carto</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how we talk about the social and political consequences of science as part of what we do in Ambitious Science Teaching classrooms.</p>

<p>Heraclitius - <a href="https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/heraclitus_107157" rel="nofollow">Never step in the same river twice...</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Fall/Autumn Weather (Sweater Weather)<br>
<a href="https://dancoecarto.com/4k-rivers" rel="nofollow">Dan Coe Carto</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 161: A Nobel Aspiration</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Oct 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss who would qualify for a Nobel Prize in Education, if one existed.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:46</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss who would qualify for a Nobel Prize in Education, if one existed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/stop-making-sense" rel="nofollow">Stop Making Sense</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss who would qualify for a Nobel Prize in Education, if one existed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/stop-making-sense" rel="nofollow">Stop Making Sense</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss who would qualify for a Nobel Prize in Education, if one existed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/stop-making-sense" rel="nofollow">Stop Making Sense</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 160: It Just Something Vibrating</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we return to the gapless explanation and how it can help with planning and enactment of teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>36:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to the gapless explanation and how it can help with planning and enactment of teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Adult Kids Moving Out<br>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/chefreactions/" rel="nofollow">Chef Reactions</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to the gapless explanation and how it can help with planning and enactment of teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Adult Kids Moving Out<br>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/chefreactions/" rel="nofollow">Chef Reactions</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to the gapless explanation and how it can help with planning and enactment of teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Adult Kids Moving Out<br>
<a href="https://www.instagram.com/chefreactions/" rel="nofollow">Chef Reactions</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 159: I'm Julius Sumner Miller...</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the episode, we discuss Julius Sumner Miller, Professor Wonderful.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:13</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the episode, we discuss Julius Sumner Miller, Professor Wonderful. We specifically examine his work in the following videos:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9psf01ldo&t=40s" rel="nofollow">From the Australian ABC Network: Why is it so? </a>- Tanker truck video<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/TkYJHp9KOxk?si=CEXgiAWVRoqLs9wU" rel="nofollow">From PBS: Demonstrations in Physics</a> - Centrifugal Force and Other Strange Matters<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4wzSKEruj70?si=PM5hrx2v7fcAo4It" rel="nofollow">From The Hilarious House of Frightenstein</a> – The Professor</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/hijack/umc.cmc.1dg08zn0g3zx52hs8npoj5qe3" rel="nofollow">Hijack on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250831910/allthesinnersbleed" rel="nofollow">All the Sinners Bleed by S.A. Cosby</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the episode, we discuss Julius Sumner Miller, Professor Wonderful. We specifically examine his work in the following videos:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9psf01ldo&t=40s" rel="nofollow">From the Australian ABC Network: Why is it so? </a>- Tanker truck video<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/TkYJHp9KOxk?si=CEXgiAWVRoqLs9wU" rel="nofollow">From PBS: Demonstrations in Physics</a> - Centrifugal Force and Other Strange Matters<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4wzSKEruj70?si=PM5hrx2v7fcAo4It" rel="nofollow">From The Hilarious House of Frightenstein</a> – The Professor</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/hijack/umc.cmc.1dg08zn0g3zx52hs8npoj5qe3" rel="nofollow">Hijack on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250831910/allthesinnersbleed" rel="nofollow">All the Sinners Bleed by S.A. Cosby</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the episode, we discuss Julius Sumner Miller, Professor Wonderful. We specifically examine his work in the following videos:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s9psf01ldo&t=40s" rel="nofollow">From the Australian ABC Network: Why is it so? </a>- Tanker truck video<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/TkYJHp9KOxk?si=CEXgiAWVRoqLs9wU" rel="nofollow">From PBS: Demonstrations in Physics</a> - Centrifugal Force and Other Strange Matters<br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/4wzSKEruj70?si=PM5hrx2v7fcAo4It" rel="nofollow">From The Hilarious House of Frightenstein</a> – The Professor</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/hijack/umc.cmc.1dg08zn0g3zx52hs8npoj5qe3" rel="nofollow">Hijack on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250831910/allthesinnersbleed" rel="nofollow">All the Sinners Bleed by S.A. Cosby</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 158: Do You Want to be a Sibling?</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/158</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about becoming a new member of a community and how old-timers can support bringing in new folks.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:06</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about becoming a new member of a community and how old-timers can support bringing in new folks.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://seths.blog" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/141181628-the-killing-room" rel="nofollow">The Killing Room </a> by Robert Smartwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about becoming a new member of a community and how old-timers can support bringing in new folks.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://seths.blog" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/141181628-the-killing-room" rel="nofollow">The Killing Room </a> by Robert Smartwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about becoming a new member of a community and how old-timers can support bringing in new folks.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://seths.blog" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/141181628-the-killing-room" rel="nofollow">The Killing Room </a> by Robert Smartwood</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 157: An Eye on Identity</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/157</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/d0c7f471-55d6-4150-928c-9847e369f0b1.mp3" length="19026464" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>4</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about "professional identity" and how it informs our work in teacher education and science professional development.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:37</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about &quot;professional identity&quot; and how it informs our work in teacher education and science professional development.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.usopen.org/en_US/about/eventschedule.html" rel="nofollow">The US Open</a><br>
<a href="https://www.theatercampthefilm.com/" rel="nofollow">Theater Camp</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about &quot;professional identity&quot; and how it informs our work in teacher education and science professional development.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.usopen.org/en_US/about/eventschedule.html" rel="nofollow">The US Open</a><br>
<a href="https://www.theatercampthefilm.com/" rel="nofollow">Theater Camp</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about &quot;professional identity&quot; and how it informs our work in teacher education and science professional development.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.usopen.org/en_US/about/eventschedule.html" rel="nofollow">The US Open</a><br>
<a href="https://www.theatercampthefilm.com/" rel="nofollow">Theater Camp</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 156: Joys to the World, Vol. 3</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/156</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/8e039251-a29d-4c22-8ed6-986b6af80b33.mp3" length="21023683" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we share our joys for the year in books, movies, apps, games, and more.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:47</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we share our joys for the year in books, movies, apps, games, and more.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/podcasts/serial-the-retrievals-yale-fertility-clinic.html" rel="nofollow">The Retrievals</a> from Serial Productions<br>
<a href="https://www.blankcheckpod.com/podcast" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a></p>

<p><strong>Books</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808603-the-mountain-in-the-sea?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=S3tYA8F2Su&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Naylar<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28954189-scythe?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=IJFCG3rq3u&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Scythe</a></p>

<p><strong>Album / Recording Artist</strong><br>
The Record by <a href="https://www.xboygeniusx.com" rel="nofollow">boygenius</a> <br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com/shows" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com" rel="nofollow">Elevate</a><br>
[Connections](Connections)</p>

<p><strong>Application</strong><br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com" rel="nofollow">Goodreads</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Barbie</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16738756/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Ugliest House in America</a> on HGTV and Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we share our joys for the year in books, movies, apps, games, and more.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/podcasts/serial-the-retrievals-yale-fertility-clinic.html" rel="nofollow">The Retrievals</a> from Serial Productions<br>
<a href="https://www.blankcheckpod.com/podcast" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a></p>

<p><strong>Books</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808603-the-mountain-in-the-sea?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=S3tYA8F2Su&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Naylar<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28954189-scythe?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=IJFCG3rq3u&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Scythe</a></p>

<p><strong>Album / Recording Artist</strong><br>
The Record by <a href="https://www.xboygeniusx.com" rel="nofollow">boygenius</a> <br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com/shows" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com" rel="nofollow">Elevate</a><br>
[Connections](Connections)</p>

<p><strong>Application</strong><br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com" rel="nofollow">Goodreads</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Barbie</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16738756/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Ugliest House in America</a> on HGTV and Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we share our joys for the year in books, movies, apps, games, and more.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/22/podcasts/serial-the-retrievals-yale-fertility-clinic.html" rel="nofollow">The Retrievals</a> from Serial Productions<br>
<a href="https://www.blankcheckpod.com/podcast" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a></p>

<p><strong>Books</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/59808603-the-mountain-in-the-sea?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=S3tYA8F2Su&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Naylar<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28954189-scythe?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=IJFCG3rq3u&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Scythe</a></p>

<p><strong>Album / Recording Artist</strong><br>
The Record by <a href="https://www.xboygeniusx.com" rel="nofollow">boygenius</a> <br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com/shows" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a></p>

<p><strong>Game</strong><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com" rel="nofollow">Elevate</a><br>
[Connections](Connections)</p>

<p><strong>Application</strong><br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com" rel="nofollow">Goodreads</a></p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15398776/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1517268/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Barbie</a></p>

<p><strong>Television Show</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt16738756/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Ugliest House in America</a> on HGTV and Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14452776/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the curricular implications of Chat GPT as we craft our syllabi for the Fall semester.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81619082" rel="nofollow">John Mulaney&#39;s comedy special, Baby J </a>on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81416533" rel="nofollow">Heart of Stone </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81619082" rel="nofollow">John Mulaney&#39;s comedy special, Baby J </a>on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81416533" rel="nofollow">Heart of Stone </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss the curricular implications of Chat GPT as we craft our syllabi for the Fall semester. This episode was inspired by a post Ollie wrote on his blog:  <a href="https://the8blog.wordpress.com/2023/08/15/crafting-syllabi-in-a-chat-gpt-world/" rel="nofollow">https://the8blog.wordpress.com/2023/08/15/crafting-syllabi-in-a-chat-gpt-world/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81619082" rel="nofollow">John Mulaney&#39;s comedy special, Baby J </a>on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81416533" rel="nofollow">Heart of Stone </a>on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 154: Old Guys Going Off a Cliff</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how leaders can do their work and how to organize systems to support that work. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how leaders can do their work and how to organize systems to support that work. <br>
<a href="https://comeupforair.com" rel="nofollow">Come Up for Air</a> by Nick Sonnenberg <br>
<a href="https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/looming-enrollment-cliff-poses-serious-threat-to-colleges/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Cliff</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/33460" rel="nofollow">Among the Thugs</a> by Bill Buford<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80996324" rel="nofollow">They Cloned Tyrone</a> on Netflix</p>

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<a href="https://comeupforair.com" rel="nofollow">Come Up for Air</a> by Nick Sonnenberg <br>
<a href="https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/looming-enrollment-cliff-poses-serious-threat-to-colleges/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Cliff</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/33460" rel="nofollow">Among the Thugs</a> by Bill Buford<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80996324" rel="nofollow">They Cloned Tyrone</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how leaders can do their work and how to organize systems to support that work. <br>
<a href="https://comeupforair.com" rel="nofollow">Come Up for Air</a> by Nick Sonnenberg <br>
<a href="https://www.bestcolleges.com/news/analysis/looming-enrollment-cliff-poses-serious-threat-to-colleges/" rel="nofollow">Enrollment Cliff</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/33460" rel="nofollow">Among the Thugs</a> by Bill Buford<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80996324" rel="nofollow">They Cloned Tyrone</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 153: We Are Not The Destroyers of Worlds</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about Christopher Nolan's movie, Oppenheimer and how science and science education are portrayed.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:57</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about Christopher Nolan&#39;s movie, Oppenheimer and how science and science education are portrayed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about Christopher Nolan&#39;s movie, Oppenheimer and how science and science education are portrayed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we talk about Christopher Nolan&#39;s movie, Oppenheimer and how science and science education are portrayed.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oppenheimermovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Oppenheimer</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 152: Sad Statement About Me as a Son</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about professional vision, what it means, and how it helps us understand teacher expertise.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:26</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about professional vision, what it means, and how it helps us understand teacher expertise.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)" rel="nofollow">Masquerade</a> by Kit Williams (book that Scott referenced, but could not remember the title of).<br>
Goodwin, C. (1994). Professional Vision. American Anthropologist, 96(3), 606–633. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King" rel="nofollow">Rodney King</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54661988-the-city-we-became?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=hx2MSnKTuO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The City We Became </a> by N.K. Jemisin<br>
<a href="https://johnwick.movie" rel="nofollow">John Wick Chapter 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about professional vision, what it means, and how it helps us understand teacher expertise.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)" rel="nofollow">Masquerade</a> by Kit Williams (book that Scott referenced, but could not remember the title of).<br>
Goodwin, C. (1994). Professional Vision. American Anthropologist, 96(3), 606–633. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King" rel="nofollow">Rodney King</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54661988-the-city-we-became?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=hx2MSnKTuO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The City We Became </a> by N.K. Jemisin<br>
<a href="https://johnwick.movie" rel="nofollow">John Wick Chapter 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about professional vision, what it means, and how it helps us understand teacher expertise.</p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masquerade_(book)" rel="nofollow">Masquerade</a> by Kit Williams (book that Scott referenced, but could not remember the title of).<br>
Goodwin, C. (1994). Professional Vision. American Anthropologist, 96(3), 606–633. <a href="https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1525/aa.1994.96.3.02a00100</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King" rel="nofollow">Rodney King</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/54661988-the-city-we-became?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=hx2MSnKTuO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The City We Became </a> by N.K. Jemisin<br>
<a href="https://johnwick.movie" rel="nofollow">John Wick Chapter 4</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 151: We Don't Already Do That</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss engineering practices and they're taught (or not) in science classrooms.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:34</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss engineering practices and they&#39;re taught (or not) in science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://goodnightoscar.com/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2eilBhCCARIsAG0Pf8th_Vi5HCUpFcvyach_xd2TDYl_k6bxYqdKQyMvGGkTNeM_la5BbqAaAjisEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow">Good Night, Oscar</a><br>
<a href="http://elenaferrante.com/works/my-brilliant-friend/" rel="nofollow">My Brilliant Friend</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss engineering practices and they&#39;re taught (or not) in science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://goodnightoscar.com/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2eilBhCCARIsAG0Pf8th_Vi5HCUpFcvyach_xd2TDYl_k6bxYqdKQyMvGGkTNeM_la5BbqAaAjisEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow">Good Night, Oscar</a><br>
<a href="http://elenaferrante.com/works/my-brilliant-friend/" rel="nofollow">My Brilliant Friend</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss engineering practices and they&#39;re taught (or not) in science classrooms.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://goodnightoscar.com/?gad=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjw2eilBhCCARIsAG0Pf8th_Vi5HCUpFcvyach_xd2TDYl_k6bxYqdKQyMvGGkTNeM_la5BbqAaAjisEALw_wcB" rel="nofollow">Good Night, Oscar</a><br>
<a href="http://elenaferrante.com/works/my-brilliant-friend/" rel="nofollow">My Brilliant Friend</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 150: Suck the Joy Out of Everything</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the SCOTUS decision about affirmative action and how we think it might impact higher education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the SCOTUS decision about affirmative action and how we think it might impact higher education. We are not legal scholars, or experts at admissions, but we are concerned with how universities can move forward in thinking about diversity. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/20518872" rel="nofollow">Three Body Problem</a> by Cixin Liu, Ken Liu (Translator)<br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the SCOTUS decision about affirmative action and how we think it might impact higher education. We are not legal scholars, or experts at admissions, but we are concerned with how universities can move forward in thinking about diversity. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/20518872" rel="nofollow">Three Body Problem</a> by Cixin Liu, Ken Liu (Translator)<br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the SCOTUS decision about affirmative action and how we think it might impact higher education. We are not legal scholars, or experts at admissions, but we are concerned with how universities can move forward in thinking about diversity. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/20518872" rel="nofollow">Three Body Problem</a> by Cixin Liu, Ken Liu (Translator)<br>
<a href="https://obsidian.md" rel="nofollow">Obsidian</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 149: A Cataclysmic Conversation</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Richard Fenyman's "cataclysm sentence" and offer some sentences ourselves.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:39</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Richard Fenyman&#39;s &quot;cataclysm sentence&quot; and offer some sentences ourselves. This episode was inspired by the RadioLab episode titled <a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/cataclysm-sentence" rel="nofollow">The Cataclysm Sentence</a>. To read more about Richard Feynman, check out <a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2012/09/11/richard-feynman-lectures-on-physics/" rel="nofollow">Richard Feynman on the One Sentence to Be Passed on to the Next Generation</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81288983" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.focusfeatures.com/asteroid-city/watch/synopsis/" rel="nofollow">Asteroid City</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Richard Fenyman&#39;s &quot;cataclysm sentence&quot; and offer some sentences ourselves. This episode was inspired by the RadioLab episode titled <a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/cataclysm-sentence" rel="nofollow">The Cataclysm Sentence</a>. To read more about Richard Feynman, check out <a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2012/09/11/richard-feynman-lectures-on-physics/" rel="nofollow">Richard Feynman on the One Sentence to Be Passed on to the Next Generation</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81288983" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.focusfeatures.com/asteroid-city/watch/synopsis/" rel="nofollow">Asteroid City</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Richard Fenyman&#39;s &quot;cataclysm sentence&quot; and offer some sentences ourselves. This episode was inspired by the RadioLab episode titled <a href="https://radiolab.org/podcast/cataclysm-sentence" rel="nofollow">The Cataclysm Sentence</a>. To read more about Richard Feynman, check out <a href="https://www.themarginalian.org/2012/09/11/richard-feynman-lectures-on-physics/" rel="nofollow">Richard Feynman on the One Sentence to Be Passed on to the Next Generation</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81288983" rel="nofollow">The Diplomat on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.focusfeatures.com/asteroid-city/watch/synopsis/" rel="nofollow">Asteroid City</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 148: In A Special Episode</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jul 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This episode we are joined by two of our team doing professional learning around the PA STEELS Standards to talk about what we have learned. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:37</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we are joined by two of our team doing professional learning around the PA STEELS Standards to talk about what we have learned. Drs. <a href="https://www.wcupa.edu/education-socialWork/secondaryEducation/bcriswell.pcf.aspx" rel="nofollow">Brett Criswell </a>and <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a> are our special guests. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30753841" rel="nofollow">Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking</a> by Samin Nosrat<br>
<a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/brooklyn-nine-nine" rel="nofollow">Brooklyn Nine Nine</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://www.musikfest.org" rel="nofollow">Musikfest</a> in Bethlehem, PA</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we are joined by two of our team doing professional learning around the PA STEELS Standards to talk about what we have learned. Drs. <a href="https://www.wcupa.edu/education-socialWork/secondaryEducation/bcriswell.pcf.aspx" rel="nofollow">Brett Criswell </a>and <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a> are our special guests. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30753841" rel="nofollow">Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking</a> by Samin Nosrat<br>
<a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/brooklyn-nine-nine" rel="nofollow">Brooklyn Nine Nine</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://www.musikfest.org" rel="nofollow">Musikfest</a> in Bethlehem, PA</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This episode we are joined by two of our team doing professional learning around the PA STEELS Standards to talk about what we have learned. Drs. <a href="https://www.wcupa.edu/education-socialWork/secondaryEducation/bcriswell.pcf.aspx" rel="nofollow">Brett Criswell </a>and <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a> are our special guests. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/30753841" rel="nofollow">Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking</a> by Samin Nosrat<br>
<a href="https://www.peacocktv.com/stream-tv/brooklyn-nine-nine" rel="nofollow">Brooklyn Nine Nine</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://www.musikfest.org" rel="nofollow">Musikfest</a> in Bethlehem, PA</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 147: To Lead or Not to Lead</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/147</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss leadership roles and the critical factors that relationships, trust and agency play.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:13</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss leadership roles and the critical factors that relationships, trust and agency play.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/secret-invasion/1" rel="nofollow">Secret Invasion</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dear-hank-john" rel="nofollow">Dear Hank and John</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss leadership roles and the critical factors that relationships, trust and agency play.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/secret-invasion/1" rel="nofollow">Secret Invasion</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dear-hank-john" rel="nofollow">Dear Hank and John</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss leadership roles and the critical factors that relationships, trust and agency play.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/secret-invasion/1" rel="nofollow">Secret Invasion</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/dear-hank-john" rel="nofollow">Dear Hank and John</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 146: I Kill the Bit</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about games and simulation and what kind or role they play in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:25</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about games and simulation and what kind or role they play in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://wellwordgame.com/en" rel="nofollow">Wellword</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/osmos/id6444173191" rel="nofollow">Osmos+ </a>on the Apple App Store</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about games and simulation and what kind or role they play in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://wellwordgame.com/en" rel="nofollow">Wellword</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/osmos/id6444173191" rel="nofollow">Osmos+ </a>on the Apple App Store</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about games and simulation and what kind or role they play in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://wellwordgame.com/en" rel="nofollow">Wellword</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/osmos/id6444173191" rel="nofollow">Osmos+ </a>on the Apple App Store</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 145: Specks of Fish Spawn</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Jun 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/ead4ee84-f546-457a-95b0-d03b5b0f6010.mp3" length="18931170" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how the processes of writing and discussion help ideas form.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:25</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how the processes of writing and discussion help ideas form.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/738083" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spidermanacrossthespiderverse" rel="nofollow">Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse</a><br>
<a href="https://www.atptour.com/en/players/carlos-alcaraz/a0e2/overview" rel="nofollow">Carlos Alcaraz</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how the processes of writing and discussion help ideas form.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/738083" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spidermanacrossthespiderverse" rel="nofollow">Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse</a><br>
<a href="https://www.atptour.com/en/players/carlos-alcaraz/a0e2/overview" rel="nofollow">Carlos Alcaraz</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how the processes of writing and discussion help ideas form.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/738083" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spidermanacrossthespiderverse" rel="nofollow">Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse</a><br>
<a href="https://www.atptour.com/en/players/carlos-alcaraz/a0e2/overview" rel="nofollow">Carlos Alcaraz</a></p>

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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 144: High Grade Professional Work</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the difference between topic rebuttal and technique rebuttal. Really just a discussion of how to help people change their own minds. </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3915174/" rel="nofollow">Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://jonesbo.com/book/killing-moon/" rel="nofollow">Killing Moon</a> by Jo Nesbø</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3915174/" rel="nofollow">Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://jonesbo.com/book/killing-moon/" rel="nofollow">Killing Moon</a> by Jo Nesbø</p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3915174/" rel="nofollow">Puss in Boots 2: The Last Wish</a> on Peacock<br>
<a href="https://jonesbo.com/book/killing-moon/" rel="nofollow">Killing Moon</a> by Jo Nesbø</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 143: The Little General</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Chapter 3 of David McRaney's book, How Minds Change and unpack the impact that perception has on our understandings and interpretations of the world.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Chapter 3 of David McRaney&#39;s book, How Minds Change and unpack the impact that perception has on our understandings and interpretations of the world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.eataly.ca/news/aperitivo/" rel="nofollow">Appertivo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.figure1publishing.com/book/great-scoops/" rel="nofollow">Great Scoops cookbook</a></p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Chapter 3 of David McRaney&#39;s book, How Minds Change and unpack the impact that perception has on our understandings and interpretations of the world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.eataly.ca/news/aperitivo/" rel="nofollow">Appertivo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.figure1publishing.com/book/great-scoops/" rel="nofollow">Great Scoops cookbook</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.eataly.ca/news/aperitivo/" rel="nofollow">Appertivo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.figure1publishing.com/book/great-scoops/" rel="nofollow">Great Scoops cookbook</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 142: Always Second Fiddle</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 May 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about what it means to do the relational work of teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:32</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about what it means to do the relational work of teaching. We unpack what it means to think of teaching as relational rather than transactional and how it plays out for teachers and teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/channels/soul-town" rel="nofollow">Soul Town </a>on Sirus XM Radio<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/32895535" rel="nofollow">Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment</a> by Robert Wright</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about what it means to do the relational work of teaching. We unpack what it means to think of teaching as relational rather than transactional and how it plays out for teachers and teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/channels/soul-town" rel="nofollow">Soul Town </a>on Sirus XM Radio<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/32895535" rel="nofollow">Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment</a> by Robert Wright</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about what it means to do the relational work of teaching. We unpack what it means to think of teaching as relational rather than transactional and how it plays out for teachers and teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.siriusxm.com/channels/soul-town" rel="nofollow">Soul Town </a>on Sirus XM Radio<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/32895535" rel="nofollow">Why Buddhism is True: The Science and Philosophy of Meditation and Enlightenment</a> by Robert Wright</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 141: Lists are Artificial</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 May 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit and update the advancements of artificial intelligence and discuss its societal and educational impacts.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:53</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit and update the advancements of artificial intelligence and discuss its societal and educational impacts.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13648228/" rel="nofollow">How It Ends</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5990342/" rel="nofollow">The Incredible Jessica James </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit and update the advancements of artificial intelligence and discuss its societal and educational impacts.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13648228/" rel="nofollow">How It Ends</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5990342/" rel="nofollow">The Incredible Jessica James </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit and update the advancements of artificial intelligence and discuss its societal and educational impacts.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13648228/" rel="nofollow">How It Ends</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5990342/" rel="nofollow">The Incredible Jessica James </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 140: Not VNOS or D-Man</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 May 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the Nature of Science. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:54</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the Nature of Science. A concept that came out of Science Studies and helped us better understand science as a practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://explore.spotify.com/us/pages/mobile-feature-share-collaborative-playlists" rel="nofollow">Collaborative Spotify Playlist</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/marvel-snap/id1592081003" rel="nofollow">Marvel Snap</a> on iOS</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the Nature of Science. A concept that came out of Science Studies and helped us better understand science as a practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://explore.spotify.com/us/pages/mobile-feature-share-collaborative-playlists" rel="nofollow">Collaborative Spotify Playlist</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/marvel-snap/id1592081003" rel="nofollow">Marvel Snap</a> on iOS</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the Nature of Science. A concept that came out of Science Studies and helped us better understand science as a practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://explore.spotify.com/us/pages/mobile-feature-share-collaborative-playlists" rel="nofollow">Collaborative Spotify Playlist</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/marvel-snap/id1592081003" rel="nofollow">Marvel Snap</a> on iOS</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 139: Some Portion of the Truth</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss two articles on practice-based teacher education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:40</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss two articles on practice-based teacher education that appeared in an anniversary issue of the Journal of Teacher Education (JTE). To get a flavor of the articles, check out the original article that appeared in the 2012 issue of JTE.</p>

<p><a href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=da76c98894b7a2d2988d3d6d7dc630a6df139718" rel="nofollow">Zeichner, K. (2012). The turn once again toward practice-based teacher education. Journal of teacher education, 63(5), 376-382.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/the-bomber-mafia/9780316296618/?lens=little-brown" rel="nofollow">The Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell</a><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Elevate app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss two articles on practice-based teacher education that appeared in an anniversary issue of the Journal of Teacher Education (JTE). To get a flavor of the articles, check out the original article that appeared in the 2012 issue of JTE.</p>

<p><a href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=da76c98894b7a2d2988d3d6d7dc630a6df139718" rel="nofollow">Zeichner, K. (2012). The turn once again toward practice-based teacher education. Journal of teacher education, 63(5), 376-382.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/the-bomber-mafia/9780316296618/?lens=little-brown" rel="nofollow">The Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell</a><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Elevate app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss two articles on practice-based teacher education that appeared in an anniversary issue of the Journal of Teacher Education (JTE). To get a flavor of the articles, check out the original article that appeared in the 2012 issue of JTE.</p>

<p><a href="https://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/document?repid=rep1&type=pdf&doi=da76c98894b7a2d2988d3d6d7dc630a6df139718" rel="nofollow">Zeichner, K. (2012). The turn once again toward practice-based teacher education. Journal of teacher education, 63(5), 376-382.</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/malcolm-gladwell/the-bomber-mafia/9780316296618/?lens=little-brown" rel="nofollow">The Bomber Mafia by Malcolm Gladwell</a><br>
<a href="https://elevateapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Elevate app</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 138: Unintentionally Matching Outfits</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about doing equity work with white teachers, especially in context where there are only white people in the room. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:51</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about doing equity work with white teachers, especially in context where there are only white people in the room. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1586680/" rel="nofollow">Shameless</a> on Showtime<br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about doing equity work with white teachers, especially in context where there are only white people in the room. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1586680/" rel="nofollow">Shameless</a> on Showtime<br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about doing equity work with white teachers, especially in context where there are only white people in the room. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1586680/" rel="nofollow">Shameless</a> on Showtime<br>
<a href="https://johncraigiemusic.com" rel="nofollow">John Craigie</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 137: Dispositional Throwdown</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/304d51bf-124f-4c02-bdde-06060b486615.mp3" length="31628352" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we debate the concept of dispositions in teacher education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>1:05:53</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we debate the concept of dispositions in teacher education. In our discussion, we reference the <a href="https://static.nsta.org/pdfs/2020NSTAStandards.pdf" rel="nofollow">2020 NSTA Standards for Science Teacher Preparation</a> and some dispositional documents available on the <a href="https://ed.psu.edu/student-dispositions-and-commitments-teaching" rel="nofollow">Penn State College of Educaiton website</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81450827" rel="nofollow">The Night Agent</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81587446" rel="nofollow">Physical: 100</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we debate the concept of dispositions in teacher education. In our discussion, we reference the <a href="https://static.nsta.org/pdfs/2020NSTAStandards.pdf" rel="nofollow">2020 NSTA Standards for Science Teacher Preparation</a> and some dispositional documents available on the <a href="https://ed.psu.edu/student-dispositions-and-commitments-teaching" rel="nofollow">Penn State College of Educaiton website</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81450827" rel="nofollow">The Night Agent</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81587446" rel="nofollow">Physical: 100</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we debate the concept of dispositions in teacher education. In our discussion, we reference the <a href="https://static.nsta.org/pdfs/2020NSTAStandards.pdf" rel="nofollow">2020 NSTA Standards for Science Teacher Preparation</a> and some dispositional documents available on the <a href="https://ed.psu.edu/student-dispositions-and-commitments-teaching" rel="nofollow">Penn State College of Educaiton website</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81450827" rel="nofollow">The Night Agent</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81587446" rel="nofollow">Physical: 100</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 136: Teaching Layer Cake</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/eba21291-ce15-402f-a60a-b7a11aa7e173.mp3" length="22438474" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about facilitating different kinds of conversations we engage in because we teach people who teach people.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:44</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about facilitating different kinds of conversations we engage in because we teach people who teach people. And now in our professional learning work, we are teaching people who are teaching people who are going to teach people science. Lots of layers to this episode. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/25109947" rel="nofollow">Lovecraft Country</a> by Matt Ruff<br>
<a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-tv/apple-tv-4k" rel="nofollow">Apple TV</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about facilitating different kinds of conversations we engage in because we teach people who teach people. And now in our professional learning work, we are teaching people who are teaching people who are going to teach people science. Lots of layers to this episode. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/25109947" rel="nofollow">Lovecraft Country</a> by Matt Ruff<br>
<a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-tv/apple-tv-4k" rel="nofollow">Apple TV</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about facilitating different kinds of conversations we engage in because we teach people who teach people. And now in our professional learning work, we are teaching people who are teaching people who are going to teach people science. Lots of layers to this episode. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/25109947" rel="nofollow">Lovecraft Country</a> by Matt Ruff<br>
<a href="https://www.apple.com/shop/buy-tv/apple-tv-4k" rel="nofollow">Apple TV</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 135: Researching Epistemic Agency</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss some recent research on epistemic agency in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:24</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some recent research on epistemic agency in science education. The list includes:</p>

<p>Miller, E., Manz, E., Russ, R., Stroupe, D., &amp; Berland, L. (2018). Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 55(7), 1053-1075.  <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459</a></p>

<p>Krist, C., Machaka, N., Voss, D., Mathayas, N., Kelly, S., &amp; Shim, S. Y. (2023). Teacher Noticing for Supporting Students’ Epistemic Agency in Science Sensemaking Discussions. Journal of Science Teacher Education, 1-21. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355" rel="nofollow">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355</a></p>

<p>Zhang, J., Tian, Y., Yuan, G., &amp; Tao, D. (2022). Epistemic agency for costructuring expansive knowledge‐building practices. Science Education, 106(4), 890-923. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dji.com/mic" rel="nofollow">DJi Microphones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/187342/banh-mi/" rel="nofollow">Banh Mi sandwiches</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some recent research on epistemic agency in science education. The list includes:</p>

<p>Miller, E., Manz, E., Russ, R., Stroupe, D., &amp; Berland, L. (2018). Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 55(7), 1053-1075.  <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459</a></p>

<p>Krist, C., Machaka, N., Voss, D., Mathayas, N., Kelly, S., &amp; Shim, S. Y. (2023). Teacher Noticing for Supporting Students’ Epistemic Agency in Science Sensemaking Discussions. Journal of Science Teacher Education, 1-21. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355" rel="nofollow">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355</a></p>

<p>Zhang, J., Tian, Y., Yuan, G., &amp; Tao, D. (2022). Epistemic agency for costructuring expansive knowledge‐building practices. Science Education, 106(4), 890-923. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dji.com/mic" rel="nofollow">DJi Microphones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/187342/banh-mi/" rel="nofollow">Banh Mi sandwiches</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss some recent research on epistemic agency in science education. The list includes:</p>

<p>Miller, E., Manz, E., Russ, R., Stroupe, D., &amp; Berland, L. (2018). Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 55(7), 1053-1075.  <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/tea.21459</a></p>

<p>Krist, C., Machaka, N., Voss, D., Mathayas, N., Kelly, S., &amp; Shim, S. Y. (2023). Teacher Noticing for Supporting Students’ Epistemic Agency in Science Sensemaking Discussions. Journal of Science Teacher Education, 1-21. <a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355" rel="nofollow">https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1046560X.2022.2155355</a></p>

<p>Zhang, J., Tian, Y., Yuan, G., &amp; Tao, D. (2022). Epistemic agency for costructuring expansive knowledge‐building practices. Science Education, 106(4), 890-923. <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/sce.21717</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.dji.com/mic" rel="nofollow">DJi Microphones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/187342/banh-mi/" rel="nofollow">Banh Mi sandwiches</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 134: Coercive Persuasion </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about minds and how you change them. We talk about David McRaney's 2022 book [_How Minds Change_](https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome).</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:08</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about minds and how you change them. Specifically, we talk about the introduction to David McRaney&#39;s 2022 book <a href="https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome" rel="nofollow"><em>How Minds Change</em></a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/games/blossom-word-game" rel="nofollow">Blossom</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Tex-Mex-Cheese-Enchiladas/" rel="nofollow">Enchiladas - Recipie from Sauver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about minds and how you change them. Specifically, we talk about the introduction to David McRaney&#39;s 2022 book <a href="https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome" rel="nofollow"><em>How Minds Change</em></a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/games/blossom-word-game" rel="nofollow">Blossom</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Tex-Mex-Cheese-Enchiladas/" rel="nofollow">Enchiladas - Recipie from Sauver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about minds and how you change them. Specifically, we talk about the introduction to David McRaney&#39;s 2022 book <a href="https://www.davidmcraney.com/howmindschangehome" rel="nofollow"><em>How Minds Change</em></a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.merriam-webster.com/games/blossom-word-game" rel="nofollow">Blossom</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.saveur.com/article/Recipes/Tex-Mex-Cheese-Enchiladas/" rel="nofollow">Enchiladas - Recipie from Sauver</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 133: The Agency of Outdated References</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we revisit the concept of agency and discuss how it applies to students, classrooms, schools, and learning.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the concept of agency and discuss how it applies to students, classrooms, schools, and learning.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-in-my-family-has-killed-someone-benjamin-stevenson?variant=40371879936034" rel="nofollow">Everyone in My Family Has Killed Someone</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-650753594785-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__tsybWgRh_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the concept of agency and discuss how it applies to students, classrooms, schools, and learning.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-in-my-family-has-killed-someone-benjamin-stevenson?variant=40371879936034" rel="nofollow">Everyone in My Family Has Killed Someone</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-650753594785-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__tsybWgRh_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we revisit the concept of agency and discuss how it applies to students, classrooms, schools, and learning.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/everyone-in-my-family-has-killed-someone-benjamin-stevenson?variant=40371879936034" rel="nofollow">Everyone in My Family Has Killed Someone</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/ted-lasso/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-650753594785-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__tsybWgRh_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 132: Umwelt of Podcast Dads</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we return to Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education (CRSE) and expand to Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>53:04</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education (CRSE) and expand to Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/06/style/dating-men-with-podcasts.html" rel="nofollow">Podcast Bros </a>in th NewYork Times<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching - <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a>, Elizabethtown University<br>
    1. Learning about Students (Culture, Interests, Backgrounds, etc.)<br>
    2. Drawing on Student Prior Knowledge (Funds of Knowledge, Prior Experiences) to promote learning.<br>
    3. Maintaining High Expectations for All Students<br>
    4. Creating a Safe Space/Community of Learners Where All Feel Safe to Participate<br>
    5. Valuing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity - Framing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity as an Asset</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13669038/" rel="nofollow">Women Talking</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/59808603" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Nayler</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education (CRSE) and expand to Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/06/style/dating-men-with-podcasts.html" rel="nofollow">Podcast Bros </a>in th NewYork Times<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching - <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a>, Elizabethtown University<br>
    1. Learning about Students (Culture, Interests, Backgrounds, etc.)<br>
    2. Drawing on Student Prior Knowledge (Funds of Knowledge, Prior Experiences) to promote learning.<br>
    3. Maintaining High Expectations for All Students<br>
    4. Creating a Safe Space/Community of Learners Where All Feel Safe to Participate<br>
    5. Valuing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity - Framing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity as an Asset</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13669038/" rel="nofollow">Women Talking</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/59808603" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Nayler</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we return to Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education (CRSE) and expand to Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/06/style/dating-men-with-podcasts.html" rel="nofollow">Podcast Bros </a>in th NewYork Times<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umwelt" rel="nofollow">Umwelt</a></p>

<p>Culturally and Linguistically Responsive Teaching - <a href="https://www.etown.edu/depts/education/faculty.aspx" rel="nofollow">Peter Licona</a>, Elizabethtown University<br>
    1. Learning about Students (Culture, Interests, Backgrounds, etc.)<br>
    2. Drawing on Student Prior Knowledge (Funds of Knowledge, Prior Experiences) to promote learning.<br>
    3. Maintaining High Expectations for All Students<br>
    4. Creating a Safe Space/Community of Learners Where All Feel Safe to Participate<br>
    5. Valuing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity - Framing Cultural and Linguistic Diversity as an Asset</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13669038/" rel="nofollow">Women Talking</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/59808603" rel="nofollow">The Mountain in the Sea</a> by Ray Nayler</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 131: Obfuscations for Change</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Pennsylvania's new teaching competencies for Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education and how they apply to our roles as science teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>59:10</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Pennsylvania&#39;s new teaching competencies for Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education and how they apply to our roles as science teachers.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Documents/Teachers-Administrators/Certification%20Preparation%20Programs/Framework%20Guidelines%20and%20Rubrics/Culturally-Relevant%20and%20Sustaining%20Education%20Program%20Framework%20Guidelines.pdf" rel="nofollow">Culturally-Relevant and Sustaining Education (CR-SE) Program Framework Guidelines</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Clancys-Jack-Ryan-Season/dp/B089TVN27Q/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc" rel="nofollow">Jack Ryan series on Prime Video</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/causeway/umc.cmc.30p2zn6vd14159dorn1vo68el" rel="nofollow">Causeway movie on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Pennsylvania&#39;s new teaching competencies for Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education and how they apply to our roles as science teachers.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Documents/Teachers-Administrators/Certification%20Preparation%20Programs/Framework%20Guidelines%20and%20Rubrics/Culturally-Relevant%20and%20Sustaining%20Education%20Program%20Framework%20Guidelines.pdf" rel="nofollow">Culturally-Relevant and Sustaining Education (CR-SE) Program Framework Guidelines</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Clancys-Jack-Ryan-Season/dp/B089TVN27Q/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc" rel="nofollow">Jack Ryan series on Prime Video</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/causeway/umc.cmc.30p2zn6vd14159dorn1vo68el" rel="nofollow">Causeway movie on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Pennsylvania&#39;s new teaching competencies for Culturally Responsive and Sustaining Education and how they apply to our roles as science teachers.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Documents/Teachers-Administrators/Certification%20Preparation%20Programs/Framework%20Guidelines%20and%20Rubrics/Culturally-Relevant%20and%20Sustaining%20Education%20Program%20Framework%20Guidelines.pdf" rel="nofollow">Culturally-Relevant and Sustaining Education (CR-SE) Program Framework Guidelines</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Clancys-Jack-Ryan-Season/dp/B089TVN27Q/ref=atv_pr_sw_sc" rel="nofollow">Jack Ryan series on Prime Video</a><br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/movie/causeway/umc.cmc.30p2zn6vd14159dorn1vo68el" rel="nofollow">Causeway movie on Apple TV+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 130: Silver Bullet Pointing Practice</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/130</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Mar 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/63e732c0-329f-4447-8a1c-5859dae68e5a.mp3" length="22783082" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about where to begin with doing Ambitious Science Teaching and how there are no silver bullets to making a change in practice.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:27</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about where to begin with doing Ambitious Science Teaching and how there are no silver bullets to making a change in practice. We talk about how difficult and slow changes in practice are, but that we need to think deeply about the models that are the foundation of learning to be able to know how to change. </p>

<p><a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/41" rel="nofollow">Episode 44: All the Hammers</a> - <a href="https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/24125/1/1006006.pdf#page=313" rel="nofollow">Discussion of Brown, Collins, andn Duguid (1989)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork" rel="nofollow">Zork</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670-dark-matter" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lifeline/id982354972" rel="nofollow">Lifeline+</a> for iPhone (Sorry Scott called it Afterlife in the episode)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about where to begin with doing Ambitious Science Teaching and how there are no silver bullets to making a change in practice. We talk about how difficult and slow changes in practice are, but that we need to think deeply about the models that are the foundation of learning to be able to know how to change. </p>

<p><a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/41" rel="nofollow">Episode 44: All the Hammers</a> - <a href="https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/24125/1/1006006.pdf#page=313" rel="nofollow">Discussion of Brown, Collins, andn Duguid (1989)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork" rel="nofollow">Zork</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670-dark-matter" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lifeline/id982354972" rel="nofollow">Lifeline+</a> for iPhone (Sorry Scott called it Afterlife in the episode)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about where to begin with doing Ambitious Science Teaching and how there are no silver bullets to making a change in practice. We talk about how difficult and slow changes in practice are, but that we need to think deeply about the models that are the foundation of learning to be able to know how to change. </p>

<p><a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/41" rel="nofollow">Episode 44: All the Hammers</a> - <a href="https://library.oapen.org/bitstream/handle/20.500.12657/24125/1/1006006.pdf#page=313" rel="nofollow">Discussion of Brown, Collins, andn Duguid (1989)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zork" rel="nofollow">Zork</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/27833670-dark-matter" rel="nofollow">Dark Matter</a> by Blake Crouch<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lifeline/id982354972" rel="nofollow">Lifeline+</a> for iPhone (Sorry Scott called it Afterlife in the episode)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 129: A Made-Up Sandwich</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/129</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the differences between hands-on/minds-on science, discovery learning, inquiry-based instruction, and phenomenon-based science learning.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.zingermansdeli.com/" rel="nofollow">Zingerman&#39;s Deli in Ann Arbor, MI</a><br>
<a href="https://www.neworleans.com/events/holidays-seasonal/mardi-gras/history-and-traditions/king-cakes/" rel="nofollow">King Cake</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the differences between hands-on/minds-on science, discovery learning, inquiry-based instruction, and phenomenon-based science learning.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.zingermansdeli.com/" rel="nofollow">Zingerman&#39;s Deli in Ann Arbor, MI</a><br>
<a href="https://www.neworleans.com/events/holidays-seasonal/mardi-gras/history-and-traditions/king-cakes/" rel="nofollow">King Cake</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.zingermansdeli.com/" rel="nofollow">Zingerman&#39;s Deli in Ann Arbor, MI</a><br>
<a href="https://www.neworleans.com/events/holidays-seasonal/mardi-gras/history-and-traditions/king-cakes/" rel="nofollow">King Cake</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 128: Peanut Butter Epistemology </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about personal knowledge management and how we don't manage it as well as we would like. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:32</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about personal knowledge management and how we don&#39;t manage it as well as we would like. The question is about how do you manage all the infomation that you take in from so many sources (books, websites, journal articles, podcasts, etc.) and keep track of your thinking about them (notes, highlights, connections between these things) in a way that help be a sort of outboard brain. We have no answers, but we have lots of shared struggles. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us" rel="nofollow">The Last of Us</a> on HBOMax<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a> (and not just because Ollie won his league)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about personal knowledge management and how we don&#39;t manage it as well as we would like. The question is about how do you manage all the infomation that you take in from so many sources (books, websites, journal articles, podcasts, etc.) and keep track of your thinking about them (notes, highlights, connections between these things) in a way that help be a sort of outboard brain. We have no answers, but we have lots of shared struggles. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us" rel="nofollow">The Last of Us</a> on HBOMax<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a> (and not just because Ollie won his league)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about personal knowledge management and how we don&#39;t manage it as well as we would like. The question is about how do you manage all the infomation that you take in from so many sources (books, websites, journal articles, podcasts, etc.) and keep track of your thinking about them (notes, highlights, connections between these things) in a way that help be a sort of outboard brain. We have no answers, but we have lots of shared struggles. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/the-last-of-us" rel="nofollow">The Last of Us</a> on HBOMax<br>
<a href="https://www.espn.com/fantasy/football/" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a> (and not just because Ollie won his league)</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 127: From the Audio Bunker</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the ways that school leaders can support change in science education in their schools.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the ways that school leaders can support change in science education in their schools.</p>

<p>Audio disclaimer: In this episode, Scott had some audio troubles that we couldn&#39;t fix in post production. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765382030/thethreebodyproblem" rel="nofollow">The Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the ways that school leaders can support change in science education in their schools.</p>

<p>Audio disclaimer: In this episode, Scott had some audio troubles that we couldn&#39;t fix in post production. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765382030/thethreebodyproblem" rel="nofollow">The Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the ways that school leaders can support change in science education in their schools.</p>

<p>Audio disclaimer: In this episode, Scott had some audio troubles that we couldn&#39;t fix in post production. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking" rel="nofollow">Shrinking on AppleTV</a><br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765382030/thethreebodyproblem" rel="nofollow">The Three Body Problem by Cixin Liu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 126: The Benefits of Regularity </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about our values and how they help us think about the work we do with teachers and students. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:20</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about our values and how they help us think about the work we do with teachers and students. The list includes: Practice, Stewardship, Relationships, Community, Safety, Curiosity, Evidence-Based, Rigorous, Hospitatlity, Caring, Vulnerabilty, and a Beginner&#39;s Mind. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">Banshees of Inisherin</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11771270/" rel="nofollow">The English</a> on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about our values and how they help us think about the work we do with teachers and students. The list includes: Practice, Stewardship, Relationships, Community, Safety, Curiosity, Evidence-Based, Rigorous, Hospitatlity, Caring, Vulnerabilty, and a Beginner&#39;s Mind. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">Banshees of Inisherin</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11771270/" rel="nofollow">The English</a> on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about our values and how they help us think about the work we do with teachers and students. The list includes: Practice, Stewardship, Relationships, Community, Safety, Curiosity, Evidence-Based, Rigorous, Hospitatlity, Caring, Vulnerabilty, and a Beginner&#39;s Mind. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11813216/" rel="nofollow">Banshees of Inisherin</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11771270/" rel="nofollow">The English</a> on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 125: Total Mushiness </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about summary tables and how they can be used in science classrooms to scaffold students as they develop evidence-based explanations.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:46</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about summary tables and how they can be used in science classrooms to scaffold students as they develop evidence-based explanations. Check out the article that Scott co-authored with our colleague, Kraig Wray.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-scope/science-scope-novemberdecember-2022/using-summary-tables-support-students" rel="nofollow">Using Summary Tables to Support Students’ Explanations of Science Phenomena</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
We were featured in a list of <a href="https://www.educatorstechnology.com/2021/02/3-excellent-free-science-podcasts-for.html#google_vignette" rel="nofollow">Best Science Podcasts for 2023</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about summary tables and how they can be used in science classrooms to scaffold students as they develop evidence-based explanations. Check out the article that Scott co-authored with our colleague, Kraig Wray.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-scope/science-scope-novemberdecember-2022/using-summary-tables-support-students" rel="nofollow">Using Summary Tables to Support Students’ Explanations of Science Phenomena</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
We were featured in a list of <a href="https://www.educatorstechnology.com/2021/02/3-excellent-free-science-podcasts-for.html#google_vignette" rel="nofollow">Best Science Podcasts for 2023</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about summary tables and how they can be used in science classrooms to scaffold students as they develop evidence-based explanations. Check out the article that Scott co-authored with our colleague, Kraig Wray.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-scope/science-scope-novemberdecember-2022/using-summary-tables-support-students" rel="nofollow">Using Summary Tables to Support Students’ Explanations of Science Phenomena</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
We were featured in a list of <a href="https://www.educatorstechnology.com/2021/02/3-excellent-free-science-podcasts-for.html#google_vignette" rel="nofollow">Best Science Podcasts for 2023</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 124: That's not the Process</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the first day of school / class and how you use it to set up norms for the rest of the year. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:07</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the first day of school / class and how you use it to set up norms for the rest of the year. We talk about what good first day practices are including some specific advice for what first days should look like. We also talk about what can go wrong on first days, and what happens when someone doesn&#39;t know the process. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35356382-the-chalk-man" rel="nofollow">The Chalk Man: A Novel </a>by C.J. Tudor<br>
<a href="https://www.tomsachs.com" rel="nofollow">Tom Sachs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the first day of school / class and how you use it to set up norms for the rest of the year. We talk about what good first day practices are including some specific advice for what first days should look like. We also talk about what can go wrong on first days, and what happens when someone doesn&#39;t know the process. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35356382-the-chalk-man" rel="nofollow">The Chalk Man: A Novel </a>by C.J. Tudor<br>
<a href="https://www.tomsachs.com" rel="nofollow">Tom Sachs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the first day of school / class and how you use it to set up norms for the rest of the year. We talk about what good first day practices are including some specific advice for what first days should look like. We also talk about what can go wrong on first days, and what happens when someone doesn&#39;t know the process. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35356382-the-chalk-man" rel="nofollow">The Chalk Man: A Novel </a>by C.J. Tudor<br>
<a href="https://www.tomsachs.com" rel="nofollow">Tom Sachs</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 123: Special Electrons</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2023 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss having students generate evidence-based explanations as part of a unit arc.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss having students generate evidence-based explanations as part of a unit arc. As we&#39;ve done in other episodes, we draw on the Ambitious Science Teaching practices and specifically discuss Practice 4: Pressing for evidence-based explanations. For more information, check out: <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/" rel="nofollow">https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://treehousebrew.com/" rel="nofollow">Tree House Brewing Company</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss having students generate evidence-based explanations as part of a unit arc. As we&#39;ve done in other episodes, we draw on the Ambitious Science Teaching practices and specifically discuss Practice 4: Pressing for evidence-based explanations. For more information, check out: <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/" rel="nofollow">https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://treehousebrew.com/" rel="nofollow">Tree House Brewing Company</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss having students generate evidence-based explanations as part of a unit arc. As we&#39;ve done in other episodes, we draw on the Ambitious Science Teaching practices and specifically discuss Practice 4: Pressing for evidence-based explanations. For more information, check out: <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/" rel="nofollow">https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/pressing-evidence-based-explanations/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://treehousebrew.com/" rel="nofollow">Tree House Brewing Company</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Broken Earth Trilogy by N.K. Jemisin</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 122: Nerd Sandwich</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2023 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about lessons learned in 2022.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:27</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about lessons learned in 2022. We talk about A.I. and ChatGPT, but also feedback, building up modeling of teaching from experience, information macronutrients, and the looming teaching shortage. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/magazine/yejin-choi-interview.html?searchResultPosition=7" rel="nofollow">NYTimes interview with Yejin Choi about A.I. </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10954984/" rel="nofollow">Nope</a> (and other films by <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1443502/?ref_=tt_ov_dr" rel="nofollow">Jordan Peele</a>)<br>
Jammies (<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/25100/jam-filled-butter-cookies/" rel="nofollow">butter cookies</a>) [Note: recipe that is similar, but not identical]</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about lessons learned in 2022. We talk about A.I. and ChatGPT, but also feedback, building up modeling of teaching from experience, information macronutrients, and the looming teaching shortage. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/magazine/yejin-choi-interview.html?searchResultPosition=7" rel="nofollow">NYTimes interview with Yejin Choi about A.I. </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10954984/" rel="nofollow">Nope</a> (and other films by <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1443502/?ref_=tt_ov_dr" rel="nofollow">Jordan Peele</a>)<br>
Jammies (<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/25100/jam-filled-butter-cookies/" rel="nofollow">butter cookies</a>) [Note: recipe that is similar, but not identical]</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about lessons learned in 2022. We talk about A.I. and ChatGPT, but also feedback, building up modeling of teaching from experience, information macronutrients, and the looming teaching shortage. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/12/26/magazine/yejin-choi-interview.html?searchResultPosition=7" rel="nofollow">NYTimes interview with Yejin Choi about A.I. </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10954984/" rel="nofollow">Nope</a> (and other films by <a href="https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1443502/?ref_=tt_ov_dr" rel="nofollow">Jordan Peele</a>)<br>
Jammies (<a href="https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/25100/jam-filled-butter-cookies/" rel="nofollow">butter cookies</a>) [Note: recipe that is similar, but not identical]</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 121: Dr. Calypso Joe</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss navigating the doctoral dissertation process and how oral exams may make a comeback in the post-ChatGPT world.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:46</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss navigating the doctoral dissertation process and how oral exams may make a comeback in the post-ChatGPT world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/63XwuAOoqYgNW0Q3E9PxJG" rel="nofollow">World Cup Football Finals</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81260280" rel="nofollow">All Quiet on the Western Front</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss navigating the doctoral dissertation process and how oral exams may make a comeback in the post-ChatGPT world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/63XwuAOoqYgNW0Q3E9PxJG" rel="nofollow">World Cup Football Finals</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81260280" rel="nofollow">All Quiet on the Western Front</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss navigating the doctoral dissertation process and how oral exams may make a comeback in the post-ChatGPT world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/63XwuAOoqYgNW0Q3E9PxJG" rel="nofollow">World Cup Football Finals</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81260280" rel="nofollow">All Quiet on the Western Front</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 120: Possibly Fell Asleep</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/e2dd815d-88cc-41ff-9930-888185fb69c0.mp3" length="28037874" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we discuss Edutopia's choices for most impactful research in education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>58:24</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss Edutopia&#39;s choices for most impactful research in education.<br>
<a href="https://www.edutopia.org/article/the-10-most-significant-education-studies-of-2022?fbclid=IwAR2iC_BBmPYnlXEOM5ADBtm1Rvi6ZSu_AIyCxC37HoNuoCak6Vz4xyMZH5Q&mibextid=Zxz2cZ" rel="nofollow">Edutopia&#39;s 10 Most Significant Education Studies of 2022</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/All-Nothing-Arsenal-Season-1/dp/B0B5KCJ9YX" rel="nofollow">All of Nothing: Aresenal</a> on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GYLD3_ArixL1sggEAAAHk" rel="nofollow">The White Lotus</a> on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss Edutopia&#39;s choices for most impactful research in education.<br>
<a href="https://www.edutopia.org/article/the-10-most-significant-education-studies-of-2022?fbclid=IwAR2iC_BBmPYnlXEOM5ADBtm1Rvi6ZSu_AIyCxC37HoNuoCak6Vz4xyMZH5Q&mibextid=Zxz2cZ" rel="nofollow">Edutopia&#39;s 10 Most Significant Education Studies of 2022</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/All-Nothing-Arsenal-Season-1/dp/B0B5KCJ9YX" rel="nofollow">All of Nothing: Aresenal</a> on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GYLD3_ArixL1sggEAAAHk" rel="nofollow">The White Lotus</a> on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we discuss Edutopia&#39;s choices for most impactful research in education.<br>
<a href="https://www.edutopia.org/article/the-10-most-significant-education-studies-of-2022?fbclid=IwAR2iC_BBmPYnlXEOM5ADBtm1Rvi6ZSu_AIyCxC37HoNuoCak6Vz4xyMZH5Q&mibextid=Zxz2cZ" rel="nofollow">Edutopia&#39;s 10 Most Significant Education Studies of 2022</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/All-Nothing-Arsenal-Season-1/dp/B0B5KCJ9YX" rel="nofollow">All of Nothing: Aresenal</a> on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GYLD3_ArixL1sggEAAAHk" rel="nofollow">The White Lotus</a> on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 119: Chatting with Chatty G</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Dec 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>3</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week, we discuss the artificial intelligence chatbot named ChatGPT and the implications for education, assessment and so much more. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the artificial intelligence chatbot named ChatGPT and the implications for education, assessment and so much more.  In our discussion, we reference the following:</p>

<p>[<a href="https://seths.blog/2022/12/attention-trust-and-gpt3/" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s blog post on Attention, Trust and ChatGPT</a><br>
<a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/" rel="nofollow">ChatGPT</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81231974" rel="nofollow">Wednesday on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" rel="nofollow">World Cup 2022</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the artificial intelligence chatbot named ChatGPT and the implications for education, assessment and so much more.  In our discussion, we reference the following:</p>

<p>[<a href="https://seths.blog/2022/12/attention-trust-and-gpt3/" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s blog post on Attention, Trust and ChatGPT</a><br>
<a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/" rel="nofollow">ChatGPT</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81231974" rel="nofollow">Wednesday on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" rel="nofollow">World Cup 2022</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the artificial intelligence chatbot named ChatGPT and the implications for education, assessment and so much more.  In our discussion, we reference the following:</p>

<p>[<a href="https://seths.blog/2022/12/attention-trust-and-gpt3/" rel="nofollow">Seth Godin&#39;s blog post on Attention, Trust and ChatGPT</a><br>
<a href="https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt/" rel="nofollow">ChatGPT</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81231974" rel="nofollow">Wednesday on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/worldcup/qatar2022" rel="nofollow">World Cup 2022</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk all things grades, assessment, evaluation and what not. </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spotify.com/us/wrapped/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Wrapped</a> (Ollie&#39;s top artist was Stevie Wonder, not Japanese Breakfast)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41880609-on-earth-we-re-briefly-gorgeous" rel="nofollow">On Earth We&#39;re Briefly Gorgeous</a> by Ocean Vuong</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spotify.com/us/wrapped/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Wrapped</a> (Ollie&#39;s top artist was Stevie Wonder, not Japanese Breakfast)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41880609-on-earth-we-re-briefly-gorgeous" rel="nofollow">On Earth We&#39;re Briefly Gorgeous</a> by Ocean Vuong</p>

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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk all things grades, assessment, evaluation and what not. We air our frustrations and dig into how it challenges notions of equity, and the issues around standardized and common assessments. Ollie gets some therapy. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.spotify.com/us/wrapped/" rel="nofollow">Spotify Wrapped</a> (Ollie&#39;s top artist was Stevie Wonder, not Japanese Breakfast)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41880609-on-earth-we-re-briefly-gorgeous" rel="nofollow">On Earth We&#39;re Briefly Gorgeous</a> by Ocean Vuong</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 117: That's So Extra</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the benefits, opportunities, and potential downsides of extracurricular STEM activities.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:33</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the benefits, opportunities, and potential downsides of extracurricular STEM activities like Science Olympiad and science fairs.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://daytum.com/" rel="nofollow">Daytum</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-panther-wakanda-forever" rel="nofollow">Black Panther: Wakanda Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the benefits, opportunities, and potential downsides of extracurricular STEM activities like Science Olympiad and science fairs.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://daytum.com/" rel="nofollow">Daytum</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-panther-wakanda-forever" rel="nofollow">Black Panther: Wakanda Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the benefits, opportunities, and potential downsides of extracurricular STEM activities like Science Olympiad and science fairs.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://daytum.com/" rel="nofollow">Daytum</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-panther-wakanda-forever" rel="nofollow">Black Panther: Wakanda Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the dimensions of contrast between Ambitious Science Teaching and more traditional status quo teaching.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the dimensions of contrast between Ambitious Science Teaching and more traditional status quo teaching. For example, curiousity from AST is in contrast to judgemental in status quo teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://stauffers.com/collections/stauffers-stars" rel="nofollow">Stauffer&#39;s Stars</a> (both milk chocolate and dark chocolate) <br>
<a href="https://www.ohdanishbakery.com/everyday-kringle-favorites/wisconsin-kringle" rel="nofollow">Kringle Danish Pastry</a> (OH Brand) available from Trader Joe&#39;s</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the dimensions of contrast between Ambitious Science Teaching and more traditional status quo teaching. For example, curiousity from AST is in contrast to judgemental in status quo teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://stauffers.com/collections/stauffers-stars" rel="nofollow">Stauffer&#39;s Stars</a> (both milk chocolate and dark chocolate) <br>
<a href="https://www.ohdanishbakery.com/everyday-kringle-favorites/wisconsin-kringle" rel="nofollow">Kringle Danish Pastry</a> (OH Brand) available from Trader Joe&#39;s</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the dimensions of contrast between Ambitious Science Teaching and more traditional status quo teaching. For example, curiousity from AST is in contrast to judgemental in status quo teaching. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://stauffers.com/collections/stauffers-stars" rel="nofollow">Stauffer&#39;s Stars</a> (both milk chocolate and dark chocolate) <br>
<a href="https://www.ohdanishbakery.com/everyday-kringle-favorites/wisconsin-kringle" rel="nofollow">Kringle Danish Pastry</a> (OH Brand) available from Trader Joe&#39;s</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 115: There's Something in the Punchbowl</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about talk. Specifically, we talk about classroom discourse in science class.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about different classroom discourse moves in science class. In the discussion, we draw on the <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Discourse-Primer.pdf" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching Discourse Primer </a>(We can be pronounced as you wish)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Reacher/0RTZ57DQ6PBHH29UN5JS7U7CW4" rel="nofollow">Reacher on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GY0WzfASbP4OEqQEAAACX" rel="nofollow">The Big Brunch on HBOmax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about different classroom discourse moves in science class. In the discussion, we draw on the <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Discourse-Primer.pdf" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching Discourse Primer </a>(We can be pronounced as you wish)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Reacher/0RTZ57DQ6PBHH29UN5JS7U7CW4" rel="nofollow">Reacher on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GY0WzfASbP4OEqQEAAACX" rel="nofollow">The Big Brunch on HBOmax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about different classroom discourse moves in science class. In the discussion, we draw on the <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Discourse-Primer.pdf" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching Discourse Primer </a>(We can be pronounced as you wish)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.primevideo.com/detail/Reacher/0RTZ57DQ6PBHH29UN5JS7U7CW4" rel="nofollow">Reacher on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GY0WzfASbP4OEqQEAAACX" rel="nofollow">The Big Brunch on HBOmax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 114: Insert Your Title Here</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we the 5 why method to answer why we teach science and why students should learn it. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we the 5 why method to answer why we teach science and why students should learn it. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/discover/787/infinity-trilogy" rel="nofollow">Infinity Triology</a> from Marvel Comics<br>
<a href="http://youarenotsosmart.com" rel="nofollow">You Are Not So Smart Podcast </a>from David McRaney</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we the 5 why method to answer why we teach science and why students should learn it. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/discover/787/infinity-trilogy" rel="nofollow">Infinity Triology</a> from Marvel Comics<br>
<a href="http://youarenotsosmart.com" rel="nofollow">You Are Not So Smart Podcast </a>from David McRaney</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we the 5 why method to answer why we teach science and why students should learn it. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/discover/787/infinity-trilogy" rel="nofollow">Infinity Triology</a> from Marvel Comics<br>
<a href="http://youarenotsosmart.com" rel="nofollow">You Are Not So Smart Podcast </a>from David McRaney</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 113: Avoiding the Land Mines</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Nov 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how science teachers navigate the teaching of controversial topics.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:37</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how science teachers can navigate the teaching of controversial topics like evolution and climate change.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rossgay.net/inciting-joy" rel="nofollow">Inciting Joy by Ross Gay</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how science teachers can navigate the teaching of controversial topics like evolution and climate change.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rossgay.net/inciting-joy" rel="nofollow">Inciting Joy by Ross Gay</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how science teachers can navigate the teaching of controversial topics like evolution and climate change.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rossgay.net/inciting-joy" rel="nofollow">Inciting Joy by Ross Gay</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 112: Community of Scientist in Schools and Beyond</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we do another "magic wand" experiment and transform science education (preK to undergrad, but mostly K-12). </itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra" rel="nofollow">Ultra Podcast </a>by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_(Doctor_Who)" rel="nofollow">Dr. Who</a> - In particular the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Doctor" rel="nofollow">Thirteenth Doctor</a> played by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Whittaker" rel="nofollow">Jodie Whittaker</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra" rel="nofollow">Ultra Podcast </a>by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_(Doctor_Who)" rel="nofollow">Dr. Who</a> - In particular the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Doctor" rel="nofollow">Thirteenth Doctor</a> played by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Whittaker" rel="nofollow">Jodie Whittaker</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-presents-ultra" rel="nofollow">Ultra Podcast </a>by Rachel Maddow on MSNBC<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_(Doctor_Who)" rel="nofollow">Dr. Who</a> - In particular the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Doctor" rel="nofollow">Thirteenth Doctor</a> played by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jodie_Whittaker" rel="nofollow">Jodie Whittaker</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 111: Magic Wands and Teacher Education</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we wave a magic wand and change teacher education in America.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81150303" rel="nofollow">The Sandman series on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://smokymountains.com/fall-foliage-map/" rel="nofollow">Fall</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81150303" rel="nofollow">The Sandman series on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://smokymountains.com/fall-foliage-map/" rel="nofollow">Fall</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81150303" rel="nofollow">The Sandman series on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://smokymountains.com/fall-foliage-map/" rel="nofollow">Fall</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 110: Department of Educational Hygiene </title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about research in education and the ethics and complications of doing that work.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/the-department-of-physiological-hygiene" rel="nofollow">The Department of Physiological Hygiene</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Birds-North-America/dp/1452174032" rel="nofollow">Field Guide to Dumb Birds of North American</a> by Matt Kracht<br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/star-wars-andor/3xsQKWG00GL5" rel="nofollow">Andor </a>on Disney+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/the-department-of-physiological-hygiene" rel="nofollow">The Department of Physiological Hygiene</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Birds-North-America/dp/1452174032" rel="nofollow">Field Guide to Dumb Birds of North American</a> by Matt Kracht<br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/star-wars-andor/3xsQKWG00GL5" rel="nofollow">Andor </a>on Disney+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a><br>
<a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/revisionist-history/the-department-of-physiological-hygiene" rel="nofollow">The Department of Physiological Hygiene</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-Birds-North-America/dp/1452174032" rel="nofollow">Field Guide to Dumb Birds of North American</a> by Matt Kracht<br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/star-wars-andor/3xsQKWG00GL5" rel="nofollow">Andor </a>on Disney+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 109: Kidnapped to Paragraph Island</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the importance of curricular planning and discuss how big ideas, anchoring events, and storylines can inform the process. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:21</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the importance of curricular planning and discuss how big ideas, anchoring events, and storylines can inform the process. For help with curricular planning, check out <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/planning-engagement-important-science-ideas-2/" rel="nofollow">the Ambitious Science Teaching website</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGrOjtvWnik&t=18s" rel="nofollow">Making Pasta with Scott Conant</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary Season 2</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the importance of curricular planning and discuss how big ideas, anchoring events, and storylines can inform the process. For help with curricular planning, check out <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/planning-engagement-important-science-ideas-2/" rel="nofollow">the Ambitious Science Teaching website</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGrOjtvWnik&t=18s" rel="nofollow">Making Pasta with Scott Conant</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary Season 2</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGrOjtvWnik&t=18s" rel="nofollow">Making Pasta with Scott Conant</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary Season 2</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 108: Semi-Colon Closure Community</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about closure at the end of lessons and what might be an alternative to closing things down. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:56</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about closure at the end of lessons and what might be an alternative to closing things down. <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeline_Cheek_Hunter" rel="nofollow">Madeline Hunter</a> (Not Danielson, which is what Scott said, but did not mean).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wetlegband.com" rel="nofollow">Wet Leg</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shopcraft as Soulcraft: An Inquiry Into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about closure at the end of lessons and what might be an alternative to closing things down. <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeline_Cheek_Hunter" rel="nofollow">Madeline Hunter</a> (Not Danielson, which is what Scott said, but did not mean).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wetlegband.com" rel="nofollow">Wet Leg</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shopcraft as Soulcraft: An Inquiry Into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about closure at the end of lessons and what might be an alternative to closing things down. <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeline_Cheek_Hunter" rel="nofollow">Madeline Hunter</a> (Not Danielson, which is what Scott said, but did not mean).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wetlegband.com" rel="nofollow">Wet Leg</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6261332-shop-class-as-soulcraft" rel="nofollow">Shopcraft as Soulcraft: An Inquiry Into the Value of Work</a> by Matthew B. Crawford</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 107: Scientific Literacy and Assorted Stuff</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the evolution of the concept of "scientific literacy" over time.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/vanneistat" rel="nofollow">The Spirited Man by Van Neistat</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/house-of-the-dragon" rel="nofollow">House of the Dragon</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the evolution of the concept of &quot;scientific literacy&quot; since the introduction of Project 2016 introduced <a href="http://www.project2061.org/publications/sfaa/online/sfaatoc.htm" rel="nofollow">Science for All Americans</a> in the early 1990s.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/vanneistat" rel="nofollow">The Spirited Man by Van Neistat</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/house-of-the-dragon" rel="nofollow">House of the Dragon</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the evolution of the concept of &quot;scientific literacy&quot; since the introduction of Project 2016 introduced <a href="http://www.project2061.org/publications/sfaa/online/sfaatoc.htm" rel="nofollow">Science for All Americans</a> in the early 1990s.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/vanneistat" rel="nofollow">The Spirited Man by Van Neistat</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/house-of-the-dragon" rel="nofollow">House of the Dragon</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 106: Prolly an Experiment</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how teaching (science) teachers can be like teaching science and how it is different. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:32</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how teaching (science) teachers can be like teaching science and how it is different. We talk about the apprenticeship of observation, the two worlds problem, teacher reflection, and making models of teaching. Plus, we shake our fist at something else briefly, not just clouds. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham</a> on Hulu<br>
House Projects - Building a Deck on the Back of the House</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how teaching (science) teachers can be like teaching science and how it is different. We talk about the apprenticeship of observation, the two worlds problem, teacher reflection, and making models of teaching. Plus, we shake our fist at something else briefly, not just clouds. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham</a> on Hulu<br>
House Projects - Building a Deck on the Back of the House</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/welcome-to-wrexham" rel="nofollow">Welcome to Wrexham</a> on Hulu<br>
House Projects - Building a Deck on the Back of the House</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 105: Observing and Questioning</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss how we frame observations of classrooms.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>53:58</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how to frame observations of classrooms. Scott introduces two framing questions which provides a guide to consider what different classroom practices engender and communicate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fantasy.espn.com/football/welcome?gclid=CjwKCAjw9suYBhBIEiwA7iMhNMjzyA7JGvGaI6t3pOFPatpByq190yJbqylB6GP_OD4yB6-pGcllBxoCRd8QAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a><br>
<a href="https://www.serenawilliams.com/" rel="nofollow">The Great Serena Williams</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how to frame observations of classrooms. Scott introduces two framing questions which provides a guide to consider what different classroom practices engender and communicate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fantasy.espn.com/football/welcome?gclid=CjwKCAjw9suYBhBIEiwA7iMhNMjzyA7JGvGaI6t3pOFPatpByq190yJbqylB6GP_OD4yB6-pGcllBxoCRd8QAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a><br>
<a href="https://www.serenawilliams.com/" rel="nofollow">The Great Serena Williams</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how to frame observations of classrooms. Scott introduces two framing questions which provides a guide to consider what different classroom practices engender and communicate.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://fantasy.espn.com/football/welcome?gclid=CjwKCAjw9suYBhBIEiwA7iMhNMjzyA7JGvGaI6t3pOFPatpByq190yJbqylB6GP_OD4yB6-pGcllBxoCRd8QAvD_BwE" rel="nofollow">Fantasy Football</a><br>
<a href="https://www.serenawilliams.com/" rel="nofollow">The Great Serena Williams</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 104: Joys to the World, Vol. 2</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we did only joys. We chose one thing (or sometimes Ollie picked two) that brought us joy from a group of different categories.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:53</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we did only joys. We chose one thing that brought us joy from a group of different categories.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Podcast<br>
<a href="https://audioboom.com/channel/Blank-Check" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a><br>
<a href="https://chartable.com/podcasts/phase-zero" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero</a></p>

<p>Phone App<br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">DuoLingo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sleepwatchapp.com" rel="nofollow">SleepWatch</a></p>

<p>Game<br>
<a href="https://playknotwords.com" rel="nofollow">Knotwords</a> by <a href="https://stfj.net" rel="nofollow">Zach Gage</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/word-hunt/id1357352041" rel="nofollow">Wordhunt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/puzzles/spelling-bee" rel="nofollow">Spelling Bee</a> from NYT</p>

<p>TV Show<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservationi Dogs</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a></p>

<p>Movie<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/everything-everywhere-all-at-once" rel="nofollow">Everything, Everwhere, All at Once</a><br>
<a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/active-families/chris-burkard-film-unnur/" rel="nofollow">UNNUR</a></p>

<p>Book<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32620332-the-seven-husbands-of-evelyn-hugo" rel="nofollow">The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo</a> by Taylor Jenkins Reid<br>
<a href="https://nkjemisin.com/series/the-broken-earth/" rel="nofollow">The Broken Earth Trilogy </a>by N.K. Jemisin</p>

<p>Album<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler,_the_Creator" rel="nofollow">Tyler, the Creator </a><br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile</a> In These Silent Days</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we did only joys. We chose one thing that brought us joy from a group of different categories.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Podcast<br>
<a href="https://audioboom.com/channel/Blank-Check" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a><br>
<a href="https://chartable.com/podcasts/phase-zero" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero</a></p>

<p>Phone App<br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">DuoLingo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sleepwatchapp.com" rel="nofollow">SleepWatch</a></p>

<p>Game<br>
<a href="https://playknotwords.com" rel="nofollow">Knotwords</a> by <a href="https://stfj.net" rel="nofollow">Zach Gage</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/word-hunt/id1357352041" rel="nofollow">Wordhunt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/puzzles/spelling-bee" rel="nofollow">Spelling Bee</a> from NYT</p>

<p>TV Show<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservationi Dogs</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a></p>

<p>Movie<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/everything-everywhere-all-at-once" rel="nofollow">Everything, Everwhere, All at Once</a><br>
<a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/active-families/chris-burkard-film-unnur/" rel="nofollow">UNNUR</a></p>

<p>Book<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32620332-the-seven-husbands-of-evelyn-hugo" rel="nofollow">The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo</a> by Taylor Jenkins Reid<br>
<a href="https://nkjemisin.com/series/the-broken-earth/" rel="nofollow">The Broken Earth Trilogy </a>by N.K. Jemisin</p>

<p>Album<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler,_the_Creator" rel="nofollow">Tyler, the Creator </a><br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile</a> In These Silent Days</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we did only joys. We chose one thing that brought us joy from a group of different categories.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Podcast<br>
<a href="https://audioboom.com/channel/Blank-Check" rel="nofollow">Blank Check with Griffin and David</a><br>
<a href="https://chartable.com/podcasts/phase-zero" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero</a></p>

<p>Phone App<br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">DuoLingo</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sleepwatchapp.com" rel="nofollow">SleepWatch</a></p>

<p>Game<br>
<a href="https://playknotwords.com" rel="nofollow">Knotwords</a> by <a href="https://stfj.net" rel="nofollow">Zach Gage</a><br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/word-hunt/id1357352041" rel="nofollow">Wordhunt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nytimes.com/puzzles/spelling-bee" rel="nofollow">Spelling Bee</a> from NYT</p>

<p>TV Show<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservationi Dogs</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hulu.com/series/the-bear-05eb6a8e-90ed-4947-8c0b-e6536cbddd5f" rel="nofollow">The Bear</a></p>

<p>Movie<br>
<a href="https://a24films.com/films/everything-everywhere-all-at-once" rel="nofollow">Everything, Everwhere, All at Once</a><br>
<a href="https://www.outsideonline.com/culture/active-families/chris-burkard-film-unnur/" rel="nofollow">UNNUR</a></p>

<p>Book<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/32620332-the-seven-husbands-of-evelyn-hugo" rel="nofollow">The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo</a> by Taylor Jenkins Reid<br>
<a href="https://nkjemisin.com/series/the-broken-earth/" rel="nofollow">The Broken Earth Trilogy </a>by N.K. Jemisin</p>

<p>Album<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler,_the_Creator" rel="nofollow">Tyler, the Creator </a><br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile</a> In These Silent Days</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 103: Just Not Right</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the role of "correct answers" in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:08</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how we approach &quot;correct answers&quot; in science classrooms and whether anything is really &quot;right.&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com/" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile </a><br>
<a href="http://www.matthaig.com/books/midnight-library/" rel="nofollow">The Midnight Library by Matt Haig</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how we approach &quot;correct answers&quot; in science classrooms and whether anything is really &quot;right.&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com/" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile </a><br>
<a href="http://www.matthaig.com/books/midnight-library/" rel="nofollow">The Midnight Library by Matt Haig</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss how we approach &quot;correct answers&quot; in science classrooms and whether anything is really &quot;right.&quot;</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.brandicarlile.com/" rel="nofollow">Brandi Carlile </a><br>
<a href="http://www.matthaig.com/books/midnight-library/" rel="nofollow">The Midnight Library by Matt Haig</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 102: What We Talk About When We Talk About Informal Science Education</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the long overlooked (by us) context of informal science education. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:27</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the long overlooked (by us) context of informal science education. We talk about what it means and how it is the same or different from more traditional formal science education (i.e. classroom science teaching). </p>

<p><a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/12190/learning-science-in-informal-environments-people-places-and-pursuits" rel="nofollow">Learning Science in Informal Environments: People, Places, and Pursuits</a><br>
<a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/21740/identifying-and-supporting-productive-stem-programs-in-out-of-school-settings" rel="nofollow">Identifying and Supporting Productive STEM Programs in Out-of-School Settings</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</a> by <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/40593.Gabrielle_Zevin" rel="nofollow">Gabrielle Zevin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11743610/" rel="nofollow">Terminal List </a>on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the long overlooked (by us) context of informal science education. We talk about what it means and how it is the same or different from more traditional formal science education (i.e. classroom science teaching). </p>

<p><a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/12190/learning-science-in-informal-environments-people-places-and-pursuits" rel="nofollow">Learning Science in Informal Environments: People, Places, and Pursuits</a><br>
<a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/21740/identifying-and-supporting-productive-stem-programs-in-out-of-school-settings" rel="nofollow">Identifying and Supporting Productive STEM Programs in Out-of-School Settings</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</a> by <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/40593.Gabrielle_Zevin" rel="nofollow">Gabrielle Zevin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11743610/" rel="nofollow">Terminal List </a>on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about the long overlooked (by us) context of informal science education. We talk about what it means and how it is the same or different from more traditional formal science education (i.e. classroom science teaching). </p>

<p><a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/12190/learning-science-in-informal-environments-people-places-and-pursuits" rel="nofollow">Learning Science in Informal Environments: People, Places, and Pursuits</a><br>
<a href="https://nap.nationalacademies.org/catalog/21740/identifying-and-supporting-productive-stem-programs-in-out-of-school-settings" rel="nofollow">Identifying and Supporting Productive STEM Programs in Out-of-School Settings</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58784475-tomorrow-and-tomorrow-and-tomorrow" rel="nofollow">Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow</a> by <a href="https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/40593.Gabrielle_Zevin" rel="nofollow">Gabrielle Zevin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11743610/" rel="nofollow">Terminal List </a>on Amazon Prime</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 101: Dipping Toes into International Waters</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about the international STEM education and what we can learn (if anything) from the assessment-based comparisons.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:18</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the international STEM education and what we can learn (if anything) from the assessment-based comparisons. In the conversation, we draw on data from the <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnu/intl-age15-literacy?tid=4" rel="nofollow">2018 Program for International Student Assessment</a> (PISA) and <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnt" rel="nofollow">2019 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study</a> (TIMSS)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/bullettrain" rel="nofollow">Bullet Train with Brad Pitt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Sean Carroll&#39;s Midscape Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the international STEM education and what we can learn (if anything) from the assessment-based comparisons. In the conversation, we draw on data from the <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnu/intl-age15-literacy?tid=4" rel="nofollow">2018 Program for International Student Assessment</a> (PISA) and <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnt" rel="nofollow">2019 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study</a> (TIMSS)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/bullettrain" rel="nofollow">Bullet Train with Brad Pitt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Sean Carroll&#39;s Midscape Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the international STEM education and what we can learn (if anything) from the assessment-based comparisons. In the conversation, we draw on data from the <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnu/intl-age15-literacy?tid=4" rel="nofollow">2018 Program for International Student Assessment</a> (PISA) and <a href="https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/cnt" rel="nofollow">2019 Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study</a> (TIMSS)</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.sonypictures.com/movies/bullettrain" rel="nofollow">Bullet Train with Brad Pitt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.preposterousuniverse.com/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Sean Carroll&#39;s Midscape Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 100: All About the Prime Space, Cousin</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Aug 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about direct instruction and what role it takes in ambitious forms of teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:26</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about direct instruction and what role it takes in ambitious forms of teaching. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ambitious-Science-Teaching-Mark-Windschitl/dp/1682531627/" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a> by Windschitl, Thompson, and Braaten</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
For the first time ever we have a shared joy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">The Bear </a>on FX/Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about direct instruction and what role it takes in ambitious forms of teaching. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ambitious-Science-Teaching-Mark-Windschitl/dp/1682531627/" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a> by Windschitl, Thompson, and Braaten</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
For the first time ever we have a shared joy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">The Bear </a>on FX/Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about direct instruction and what role it takes in ambitious forms of teaching. </p>

<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Ambitious-Science-Teaching-Mark-Windschitl/dp/1682531627/" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a> by Windschitl, Thompson, and Braaten</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
For the first time ever we have a shared joy - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bear_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">The Bear </a>on FX/Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 99: If the Future's Online...</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2022 09:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we revisit a topic from Episode 97 and examine what learning principles should inform an online, educational future.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:45</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit a topic from Episode 97 and examine what learning principles should inform an online, educational future.</p>

<p>During the conversation, Scott references &quot;epistemic agency&quot; and cites the following article:</p>

<p><a href="http://mspnet-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Addressing_the_epistemic_elephant_in_the_room_Epis.pdf" rel="nofollow">Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards (Miller et al, 2018)</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Fifth Element by N.K. Jemisin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1312171/" rel="nofollow">Umbrella Academy Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit a topic from Episode 97 and examine what learning principles should inform an online, educational future.</p>

<p>During the conversation, Scott references &quot;epistemic agency&quot; and cites the following article:</p>

<p><a href="http://mspnet-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Addressing_the_epistemic_elephant_in_the_room_Epis.pdf" rel="nofollow">Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards (Miller et al, 2018)</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Fifth Element by N.K. Jemisin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1312171/" rel="nofollow">Umbrella Academy Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie revisit a topic from Episode 97 and examine what learning principles should inform an online, educational future.</p>

<p>During the conversation, Scott references &quot;epistemic agency&quot; and cites the following article:</p>

<p><a href="http://mspnet-static.s3.amazonaws.com/Addressing_the_epistemic_elephant_in_the_room_Epis.pdf" rel="nofollow">Addressing the epistemic elephant in the room: Epistemic agency and the next generation science standards (Miller et al, 2018)</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/articles/n-k-jemisin-broken-earth-trilogy-books-in-order/" rel="nofollow">Fifth Element by N.K. Jemisin</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1312171/" rel="nofollow">Umbrella Academy Season 3</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 98: Shakes Fist at Cloud</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/c0b93f2f-fb06-4836-9cf7-32acab1850f5.mp3" length="21570582" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how much science we need, as citizens, to participate in the public discourse in society and make public decisions. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:55</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how much science we need, as citizens, to participate in the public discourse in society and make public decisions. We move from talking about how of science (the processes and practices of science) and talk a bit about the what of science (the normative science understandings). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B07QNJCXZK" rel="nofollow">The Boys - Season 4 </a>on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117552" rel="nofollow">Ozark</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how much science we need, as citizens, to participate in the public discourse in society and make public decisions. We move from talking about how of science (the processes and practices of science) and talk a bit about the what of science (the normative science understandings). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B07QNJCXZK" rel="nofollow">The Boys - Season 4 </a>on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117552" rel="nofollow">Ozark</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how much science we need, as citizens, to participate in the public discourse in society and make public decisions. We move from talking about how of science (the processes and practices of science) and talk a bit about the what of science (the normative science understandings). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/The-Boys-Season-1/dp/B07QNJCXZK" rel="nofollow">The Boys - Season 4 </a>on Amazon Prime<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117552" rel="nofollow">Ozark</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 97: Is the Future Online?</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss whether the future of K-12 education online.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p><a href="https://adamgrant.net/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Live podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.modernclassrooms.org/" rel="nofollow">Modern Classrooms Project</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harvard.com/book/allow_me_to_retort/" rel="nofollow">Elie Mystal&#39;s book - Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy&#39;s Guide to the Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://www.topgunmovie.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Top Gun: Maverick</a></p>

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<p><a href="https://adamgrant.net/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Live podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.modernclassrooms.org/" rel="nofollow">Modern Classrooms Project</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harvard.com/book/allow_me_to_retort/" rel="nofollow">Elie Mystal&#39;s book - Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy&#39;s Guide to the Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://www.topgunmovie.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Top Gun: Maverick</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss recent experiences they&#39;ve had that communicated that the future of K-12 education through online delivery. We discuss whether this is a realistic and what some of the hurdles schools and families will need to navigate to make that happen. In the episode, we briefly discuss the following:</p>

<p><a href="https://adamgrant.net/podcast/" rel="nofollow">Adam Grant&#39;s Work Live podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.modernclassrooms.org/" rel="nofollow">Modern Classrooms Project</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.harvard.com/book/allow_me_to_retort/" rel="nofollow">Elie Mystal&#39;s book - Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy&#39;s Guide to the Constitution</a><br>
<a href="https://www.topgunmovie.com/home/" rel="nofollow">Top Gun: Maverick</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 96: Not One of My Favorite Numbers</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jul 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about culturally relevant science teaching and what that means in terms of connecting to local community issues. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:52</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about culturally relevant science teaching and what that means in terms of connecting to local community issues. We talk about the nature of being responsive as a science teacher and having learning opportunities be connected to local community issues is not a requirement for doing culturally relevant teaching. How do you think about creating curiousity and relevance by building on students&#39; thinking and reasoning when they draw on their own experience and culture. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53799686-anxious-people" rel="nofollow">Anxious People</a> by Fredrik Backman<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1998372/" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jonkrakauer.com/books/under-the-banner-of-heaven-tr" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> by Jon Krakauer </p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53799686-anxious-people" rel="nofollow">Anxious People</a> by Fredrik Backman<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1998372/" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jonkrakauer.com/books/under-the-banner-of-heaven-tr" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> by Jon Krakauer </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about culturally relevant science teaching and what that means in terms of connecting to local community issues. We talk about the nature of being responsive as a science teacher and having learning opportunities be connected to local community issues is not a requirement for doing culturally relevant teaching. How do you think about creating curiousity and relevance by building on students&#39; thinking and reasoning when they draw on their own experience and culture. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53799686-anxious-people" rel="nofollow">Anxious People</a> by Fredrik Backman<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1998372/" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> on Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.jonkrakauer.com/books/under-the-banner-of-heaven-tr" rel="nofollow">Under the Banner of Heaven</a> by Jon Krakauer </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 95: Why Would Anyone Become a Science Teacher?</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the reasons that prospective science teachers should enter the profession.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:27</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the reasons that prospective science teachers should enter the profession. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/16729/thor_god_of_thunder_2012_-_2014" rel="nofollow">Thor: God of Thunder - God Butcher series</a><br>
<a href="https://markgreaneybooks.com/books/sierra-six/" rel="nofollow">Sierra Six: A Gray Man Novel by Mark Greaney</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the reasons that prospective science teachers should enter the profession. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/16729/thor_god_of_thunder_2012_-_2014" rel="nofollow">Thor: God of Thunder - God Butcher series</a><br>
<a href="https://markgreaneybooks.com/books/sierra-six/" rel="nofollow">Sierra Six: A Gray Man Novel by Mark Greaney</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the reasons that prospective science teachers should enter the profession. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/comics/series/16729/thor_god_of_thunder_2012_-_2014" rel="nofollow">Thor: God of Thunder - God Butcher series</a><br>
<a href="https://markgreaneybooks.com/books/sierra-six/" rel="nofollow">Sierra Six: A Gray Man Novel by Mark Greaney</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 94: False Sense of Performance</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about standards, standardizing, and what makes sense to makes sense to standardize and why. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>55:28</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about standards, standardizing, and what makes sense to makes sense to standardize and why. Having consistency can help support equity across classes, schools, states, and even the country, but rigid curriculum are not responsive to students. How can we think about having standards (i.e. goals for what all students should know/be able to do), without having solutions that are scripted, decontextualized and disconnected from the local context and community where students live?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52362.Ronin" rel="nofollow">Ronin </a>by Frank Miller<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42835847-middlewest-book-one?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=JHAWwoF4Y6&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Middlewest</a> by Skottie Young</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about standards, standardizing, and what makes sense to makes sense to standardize and why. Having consistency can help support equity across classes, schools, states, and even the country, but rigid curriculum are not responsive to students. How can we think about having standards (i.e. goals for what all students should know/be able to do), without having solutions that are scripted, decontextualized and disconnected from the local context and community where students live?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52362.Ronin" rel="nofollow">Ronin </a>by Frank Miller<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42835847-middlewest-book-one?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=JHAWwoF4Y6&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Middlewest</a> by Skottie Young</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about standards, standardizing, and what makes sense to makes sense to standardize and why. Having consistency can help support equity across classes, schools, states, and even the country, but rigid curriculum are not responsive to students. How can we think about having standards (i.e. goals for what all students should know/be able to do), without having solutions that are scripted, decontextualized and disconnected from the local context and community where students live?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/52362.Ronin" rel="nofollow">Ronin </a>by Frank Miller<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/42835847-middlewest-book-one?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=JHAWwoF4Y6&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Middlewest</a> by Skottie Young</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 93: Filiopietism</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about the shifts that school leaders need to make to better support science teachers adopting Next Generation Science Standards.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:38</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the shifts that school leaders need to make to better support science teachers adopting Next Generation Science Standards. In the discussion, we introduce the NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework and discuss some of the markers for administrators to look for.</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework</a><br>
[NGSS: An Overview for Principals](extgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/NGSS Overview for Principals_0.pdf)<br>
<a href="https://stemteachingtools.org/brief/21" rel="nofollow">What school building administrators should know about the new vision for K-12 science education </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/" rel="nofollow">This American Life podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/nice-try" rel="nofollow">Nice Try podcast </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the shifts that school leaders need to make to better support science teachers adopting Next Generation Science Standards. In the discussion, we introduce the NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework and discuss some of the markers for administrators to look for.</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework</a><br>
[NGSS: An Overview for Principals](extgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/NGSS Overview for Principals_0.pdf)<br>
<a href="https://stemteachingtools.org/brief/21" rel="nofollow">What school building administrators should know about the new vision for K-12 science education </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/" rel="nofollow">This American Life podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/nice-try" rel="nofollow">Nice Try podcast </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie talk about the shifts that school leaders need to make to better support science teachers adopting Next Generation Science Standards. In the discussion, we introduce the NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework and discuss some of the markers for administrators to look for.</p>

<p><a href="https://ilscience.org/resources/Pictures/ScienceInstructionCompanion.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS-aligned Danielson Framework</a><br>
[NGSS: An Overview for Principals](extgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/NGSS Overview for Principals_0.pdf)<br>
<a href="https://stemteachingtools.org/brief/21" rel="nofollow">What school building administrators should know about the new vision for K-12 science education </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/" rel="nofollow">This American Life podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://podcasts.voxmedia.com/show/nice-try" rel="nofollow">Nice Try podcast </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 92: Doctor Cranky Pants</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the 5E model and its relationship to other ways of thinking about science teaching and learning. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)" rel="nofollow">Gallager</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_Top" rel="nofollow">Carrot Top</a><br>
5E Model (<a href="http://fremonths.org/ourpages/auto/2006/9/7/1157653040572/bscs5efullreport2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Bybee, R. W., Taylor, J. A., Gardner, A., Van Scotter, P., Powell, J. C., Westbrook, A., &amp; Landes, N. (2006). The BSCS 5E instructional model: Origins and effectiveness. Colorado Springs, Co: BSCS, 5, 88-98.</a>)<br>
The Actual Professor Cranky Pants - <a href="https://twitter.com/profcrnkypants?lang=en" rel="nofollow">Bill Sandoval</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_Patrol_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">Doom Patrol </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1" rel="nofollow">Everything Everywhere All at Once</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)" rel="nofollow">Gallager</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_Top" rel="nofollow">Carrot Top</a><br>
5E Model (<a href="http://fremonths.org/ourpages/auto/2006/9/7/1157653040572/bscs5efullreport2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Bybee, R. W., Taylor, J. A., Gardner, A., Van Scotter, P., Powell, J. C., Westbrook, A., &amp; Landes, N. (2006). The BSCS 5E instructional model: Origins and effectiveness. Colorado Springs, Co: BSCS, 5, 88-98.</a>)<br>
The Actual Professor Cranky Pants - <a href="https://twitter.com/profcrnkypants?lang=en" rel="nofollow">Bill Sandoval</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_Patrol_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">Doom Patrol </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1" rel="nofollow">Everything Everywhere All at Once</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_(comedian)" rel="nofollow">Gallager</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrot_Top" rel="nofollow">Carrot Top</a><br>
5E Model (<a href="http://fremonths.org/ourpages/auto/2006/9/7/1157653040572/bscs5efullreport2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Bybee, R. W., Taylor, J. A., Gardner, A., Van Scotter, P., Powell, J. C., Westbrook, A., &amp; Landes, N. (2006). The BSCS 5E instructional model: Origins and effectiveness. Colorado Springs, Co: BSCS, 5, 88-98.</a>)<br>
The Actual Professor Cranky Pants - <a href="https://twitter.com/profcrnkypants?lang=en" rel="nofollow">Bill Sandoval</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doom_Patrol_(TV_series)" rel="nofollow">Doom Patrol </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6710474/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1" rel="nofollow">Everything Everywhere All at Once</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 91: A Preacher, A Politician and A Prosecutor Walk into a Bar...</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jun 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about the dispositional stance that teachers and students must adopt to be successful in classes built on student exploration of ideas and explanations.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:50</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the dispositional stance that teachers and students must adopt to be successful in classes built on student exploration of ideas and explanations. We draw on Adam Grant&#39;s book <a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/" rel="nofollow">Think Again</a> as well as recent episode of <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/the-overconfidence-game/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.acbands.org" rel="nofollow">Joining a Community Band</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117498" rel="nofollow">The Punisher on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the dispositional stance that teachers and students must adopt to be successful in classes built on student exploration of ideas and explanations. We draw on Adam Grant&#39;s book <a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/" rel="nofollow">Think Again</a> as well as recent episode of <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/the-overconfidence-game/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.acbands.org" rel="nofollow">Joining a Community Band</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117498" rel="nofollow">The Punisher on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the dispositional stance that teachers and students must adopt to be successful in classes built on student exploration of ideas and explanations. We draw on Adam Grant&#39;s book <a href="https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/" rel="nofollow">Think Again</a> as well as recent episode of <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/the-overconfidence-game/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.acbands.org" rel="nofollow">Joining a Community Band</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80117498" rel="nofollow">The Punisher on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 90: How &amp; Why and Sometimes What</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about curiosity and wonder. How can you not be interested in that? </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:40</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">Epistemic Agency</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limoncello" rel="nofollow">Limonchello</a> - Unfortunately you can&#39;t have Ollie&#39;s artisanal limonchello, but still, you can get some.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">Epistemic Agency</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limoncello" rel="nofollow">Limonchello</a> - Unfortunately you can&#39;t have Ollie&#39;s artisanal limonchello, but still, you can get some.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.21459" rel="nofollow">Epistemic Agency</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9419884/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limoncello" rel="nofollow">Limonchello</a> - Unfortunately you can&#39;t have Ollie&#39;s artisanal limonchello, but still, you can get some.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 89: You Can't Open the Box</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 May 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss uncertainty in science and ways we can teach it in the science classroom.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:19</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss uncertainty in science and ways we can teach it in the science classroom. During the discussion, we refer to a recent article which examines trustworthiness and uncertainity in science.</p>

<p>Covitt, B.A., Anderson, C.W. Untangling Trustworthiness and Uncertainty in Science. Sci &amp; Educ (2022). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.richardpowers.net/the-overstory/" rel="nofollow">The Overstory by Richard Powers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/moon-knight/4S3oOF1knocS" rel="nofollow">Moon Knight on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss uncertainty in science and ways we can teach it in the science classroom. During the discussion, we refer to a recent article which examines trustworthiness and uncertainity in science.</p>

<p>Covitt, B.A., Anderson, C.W. Untangling Trustworthiness and Uncertainty in Science. Sci &amp; Educ (2022). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.richardpowers.net/the-overstory/" rel="nofollow">The Overstory by Richard Powers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/moon-knight/4S3oOF1knocS" rel="nofollow">Moon Knight on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss uncertainty in science and ways we can teach it in the science classroom. During the discussion, we refer to a recent article which examines trustworthiness and uncertainity in science.</p>

<p>Covitt, B.A., Anderson, C.W. Untangling Trustworthiness and Uncertainty in Science. Sci &amp; Educ (2022). <a href="https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6" rel="nofollow">https://doi.org/10.1007/s11191-022-00322-6</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.richardpowers.net/the-overstory/" rel="nofollow">The Overstory by Richard Powers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.disneyplus.com/series/moon-knight/4S3oOF1knocS" rel="nofollow">Moon Knight on Disney+</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 88: The Model is NOT the Thing</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about models and modeling and related stuff. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:42</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Continuing with themes of the show, Ollie and Scott talk about models in their many forms in science and their relationship to the world and scientific phenomena. We also talk about the difference between students&#39; models/explanations that they create and their relationship to cannonical science models/explanations. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_theory" rel="nofollow">Atomic Models</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13782428/" rel="nofollow">Julia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13146488/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Continuing with themes of the show, Ollie and Scott talk about models in their many forms in science and their relationship to the world and scientific phenomena. We also talk about the difference between students&#39; models/explanations that they create and their relationship to cannonical science models/explanations. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_theory" rel="nofollow">Atomic Models</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13782428/" rel="nofollow">Julia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13146488/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Continuing with themes of the show, Ollie and Scott talk about models in their many forms in science and their relationship to the world and scientific phenomena. We also talk about the difference between students&#39; models/explanations that they create and their relationship to cannonical science models/explanations. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_theory" rel="nofollow">Atomic Models</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13782428/" rel="nofollow">Julia</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13146488/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Peacemaker </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 87: What We Do as Academics</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the differences between explanation and argumentation as practices in science classes.</itunes:subtitle>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://gamepigeonapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Word Hunt on Game Pigeon</a><br>
<a href="http://www.sagesolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">Sage Solitaire</a><br>
<a href="http://www.flipflopsolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">FlipFlop Solitaire</a></p>

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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://gamepigeonapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Word Hunt on Game Pigeon</a><br>
<a href="http://www.sagesolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">Sage Solitaire</a><br>
<a href="http://www.flipflopsolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">FlipFlop Solitaire</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://gamepigeonapp.com/" rel="nofollow">Word Hunt on Game Pigeon</a><br>
<a href="http://www.sagesolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">Sage Solitaire</a><br>
<a href="http://www.flipflopsolitaire.com/" rel="nofollow">FlipFlop Solitaire</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about how to use a combination of small groups and large group discussion to build classroom community and norms. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189x033002012" rel="nofollow">Disciplined Improvisation - Sawyer, R. K. (2004). Creative teaching: Collaborative discussion as disciplined improvisation. Educational researcher, 33(2), 12-20.</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/016146811912100607" rel="nofollow">Principled Improvisation - Philip, T. M. (2019). Principled improvisation to support novice teacher learning. Teachers College Record, 121(6), 1-32.</a><br>
<a href="https://rumblestripvermont.com/episodes/" rel="nofollow">Rumblestrip the Podcast</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://primantibros.com" rel="nofollow">Primanti Brothers </a> - OG Locations - 1832 East Carson Street and 2 Market Square<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8097030/" rel="nofollow">Turning Red </a> on Disney +</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189x033002012" rel="nofollow">Disciplined Improvisation - Sawyer, R. K. (2004). Creative teaching: Collaborative discussion as disciplined improvisation. Educational researcher, 33(2), 12-20.</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/016146811912100607" rel="nofollow">Principled Improvisation - Philip, T. M. (2019). Principled improvisation to support novice teacher learning. Teachers College Record, 121(6), 1-32.</a><br>
<a href="https://rumblestripvermont.com/episodes/" rel="nofollow">Rumblestrip the Podcast</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://primantibros.com" rel="nofollow">Primanti Brothers </a> - OG Locations - 1832 East Carson Street and 2 Market Square<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8097030/" rel="nofollow">Turning Red </a> on Disney +</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.3102/0013189x033002012" rel="nofollow">Disciplined Improvisation - Sawyer, R. K. (2004). Creative teaching: Collaborative discussion as disciplined improvisation. Educational researcher, 33(2), 12-20.</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/016146811912100607" rel="nofollow">Principled Improvisation - Philip, T. M. (2019). Principled improvisation to support novice teacher learning. Teachers College Record, 121(6), 1-32.</a><br>
<a href="https://rumblestripvermont.com/episodes/" rel="nofollow">Rumblestrip the Podcast</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://primantibros.com" rel="nofollow">Primanti Brothers </a> - OG Locations - 1832 East Carson Street and 2 Market Square<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8097030/" rel="nofollow">Turning Red </a> on Disney +</p>

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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we return after an unexpected hiatus to discuss a recent episode of the Against the Rules podcast and how it relates to our work as teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie return after an unexpected hiatus to discuss a recent episode of the Against the Rules podcast. The episode, titled <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/episode-3-field-of-ignorance/" rel="nofollow">Field of Ignorance</a>, explores how data is used (and misused) in baseball. We discuss how this relates to our work as teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://thirdmanstore.com/products/fear-of-the-dawn" rel="nofollow">Fear of the Dawn by Jack White</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie return after an unexpected hiatus to discuss a recent episode of the Against the Rules podcast. The episode, titled <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/episode-3-field-of-ignorance/" rel="nofollow">Field of Ignorance</a>, explores how data is used (and misused) in baseball. We discuss how this relates to our work as teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://thirdmanstore.com/products/fear-of-the-dawn" rel="nofollow">Fear of the Dawn by Jack White</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie return after an unexpected hiatus to discuss a recent episode of the Against the Rules podcast. The episode, titled <a href="https://www.pushkin.fm/episode/episode-3-field-of-ignorance/" rel="nofollow">Field of Ignorance</a>, explores how data is used (and misused) in baseball. We discuss how this relates to our work as teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://thirdmanstore.com/products/fear-of-the-dawn" rel="nofollow">Fear of the Dawn by Jack White</a><br>
<a href="https://abc.com/shows/abbott-elementary" rel="nofollow">Abbott Elementary</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the science teacher shortage, why we think it is happening and if we can do anything about it. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:31</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.emilymandel.com/stationeleven.html" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/unlimited" rel="nofollow">Marvel Unlimited</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.emilymandel.com/stationeleven.html" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/unlimited" rel="nofollow">Marvel Unlimited</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://www.emilymandel.com/stationeleven.html" rel="nofollow">Station Eleven</a><br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/unlimited" rel="nofollow">Marvel Unlimited</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 83: An Evergreen Effort?</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we conclude our series on the NRC Framework by digging into equity in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:13</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we conclude our series discussing A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices,<br>
Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas (2012). Specifically, we dig into equitable practices in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/helen-keller-exorcism" rel="nofollow">Radiolab Episode: The Helen Keller Exorcism</a><br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/White-Folks-Race-and-Identity-in-Rural-America/Lensmire/p/book/9781138747036" rel="nofollow">White Folks by Timothy J. Lensmire</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we conclude our series discussing A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices,<br>
Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas (2012). Specifically, we dig into equitable practices in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/helen-keller-exorcism" rel="nofollow">Radiolab Episode: The Helen Keller Exorcism</a><br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/White-Folks-Race-and-Identity-in-Rural-America/Lensmire/p/book/9781138747036" rel="nofollow">White Folks by Timothy J. Lensmire</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we conclude our series discussing A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices,<br>
Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas (2012). Specifically, we dig into equitable practices in science education.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/helen-keller-exorcism" rel="nofollow">Radiolab Episode: The Helen Keller Exorcism</a><br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/White-Folks-Race-and-Identity-in-Rural-America/Lensmire/p/book/9781138747036" rel="nofollow">White Folks by Timothy J. Lensmire</a></p>

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      <title>Episode 82: Almost Professional (Disciplinary Core) Ideas</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Disciplinary Core Ideas (DCIs) in the NRC's Framework for K-12 Science Education. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the disciplinary core ideas in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu" rel="nofollow">National Museum of African American History and Culture</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adam_Project" rel="nofollow">The Adam Project</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the disciplinary core ideas in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu" rel="nofollow">National Museum of African American History and Culture</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adam_Project" rel="nofollow">The Adam Project</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the disciplinary core ideas in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://nmaahc.si.edu" rel="nofollow">National Museum of African American History and Culture</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Adam_Project" rel="nofollow">The Adam Project</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 81: Frosted Tips Are Not a CCC</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week is all about the Cross Cutting Concepts from the NRC Framework for K-12 Science Education</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the cross cutting concepts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50674178-good-guys?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=9S6xZ1PWfJ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace </a>by David G. Smith and W. Brad Johnson<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58261860-notebook?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mmaKhz5rnT&rank=7" rel="nofollow">Project Hail Mary</a> by Adam Weir</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the cross cutting concepts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50674178-good-guys?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=9S6xZ1PWfJ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace </a>by David G. Smith and W. Brad Johnson<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58261860-notebook?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mmaKhz5rnT&rank=7" rel="nofollow">Project Hail Mary</a> by Adam Weir</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the cross cutting concepts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50674178-good-guys?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=9S6xZ1PWfJ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the Workplace </a>by David G. Smith and W. Brad Johnson<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/58261860-notebook?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=mmaKhz5rnT&rank=7" rel="nofollow">Project Hail Mary</a> by Adam Weir</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 80: Dropping Names</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss Science &amp; Engineering Practices as they're framed in the Next Generation Science Standards.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie dig into the NRC Framework and discuss Science and Engineering Practices as they&#39;re framed in the Next Generation Science Standards. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.20thcenturystudios.com/movies/free-guy" rel="nofollow">Free Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Hush" rel="nofollow">Batman Hush</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie dig into the NRC Framework and discuss Science and Engineering Practices as they&#39;re framed in the Next Generation Science Standards. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.20thcenturystudios.com/movies/free-guy" rel="nofollow">Free Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Hush" rel="nofollow">Batman Hush</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie dig into the NRC Framework and discuss Science and Engineering Practices as they&#39;re framed in the Next Generation Science Standards. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.20thcenturystudios.com/movies/free-guy" rel="nofollow">Free Guy</a><br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Batman:_Hush" rel="nofollow">Batman Hush</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 79: Framing the Framework</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss the big ideas and shifts in the NRC's A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas (2012).</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:51</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the big ideas and shifts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://styluspub.presswarehouse.com/browse/book/9781620366974/Creating-Wicked-Students" rel="nofollow">Creating Wicked Students by Paul Handstedt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jackassmovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Jackass Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the big ideas and shifts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://styluspub.presswarehouse.com/browse/book/9781620366974/Creating-Wicked-Students" rel="nofollow">Creating Wicked Students by Paul Handstedt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jackassmovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Jackass Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the big ideas and shifts in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://styluspub.presswarehouse.com/browse/book/9781620366974/Creating-Wicked-Students" rel="nofollow">Creating Wicked Students by Paul Handstedt</a><br>
<a href="https://www.jackassmovie.com/" rel="nofollow">Jackass Forever</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 78: Talkin' Bout Practice!</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>That is what we talk about this week - practice - specifically the science and engineering practices in the NRC's Framework for K-12 Science Education. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>40:55</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the science and engineering practices in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics Games</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/761/the-trojan-horse-affair" rel="nofollow">Trojan Horse Affair</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the science and engineering practices in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics Games</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/761/the-trojan-horse-affair" rel="nofollow">Trojan Horse Affair</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Ollie and Scott discuss the science and engineering practices in the NRC&#39;s <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">A Framework for K-12 Science Education: Practices, Crosscutting Concepts, and Core Ideas</a> (2012).</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics Games</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/761/the-trojan-horse-affair" rel="nofollow">Trojan Horse Affair</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 77: A Shared Dislike</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss classroom management and offers ways to reframe the concept in more student-centered and relational ways.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:16</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss one of teachers&#39; favorite topics: classroom management.  In our discussion, we challenge the traditional conceptualization and offer ways to reframe the concept in more student-centered and relational ways. In our discussion, Ollie references the Science of Happiness podcast and an episode where a specific meditation practice is outlined. If you&#39;re interested, check out: <a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/podcasts/item/when_its_time_to_face_your_fears" rel="nofollow">When It’s Time to Face Your Fears</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-morning-show/umc.cmc.25tn3v8ku4b39tr6ccgb8nl6m?ctx_brand=tvs.sbd.4000&itscg=MC_20000&itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019800_1-562408044690-c&mttnsubkw=122311402294__4hKcJGw2_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">The Morning Show</a><br>
<a href="https://www.davegrohlstoryteller.com/" rel="nofollow">Dave Grohl&#39;s Storyteller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss one of teachers&#39; favorite topics: classroom management.  In our discussion, we challenge the traditional conceptualization and offer ways to reframe the concept in more student-centered and relational ways. In our discussion, Ollie references the Science of Happiness podcast and an episode where a specific meditation practice is outlined. If you&#39;re interested, check out: <a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/podcasts/item/when_its_time_to_face_your_fears" rel="nofollow">When It’s Time to Face Your Fears</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-morning-show/umc.cmc.25tn3v8ku4b39tr6ccgb8nl6m?ctx_brand=tvs.sbd.4000&itscg=MC_20000&itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019800_1-562408044690-c&mttnsubkw=122311402294__4hKcJGw2_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">The Morning Show</a><br>
<a href="https://www.davegrohlstoryteller.com/" rel="nofollow">Dave Grohl&#39;s Storyteller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss one of teachers&#39; favorite topics: classroom management.  In our discussion, we challenge the traditional conceptualization and offer ways to reframe the concept in more student-centered and relational ways. In our discussion, Ollie references the Science of Happiness podcast and an episode where a specific meditation practice is outlined. If you&#39;re interested, check out: <a href="https://greatergood.berkeley.edu/podcasts/item/when_its_time_to_face_your_fears" rel="nofollow">When It’s Time to Face Your Fears</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/us/show/the-morning-show/umc.cmc.25tn3v8ku4b39tr6ccgb8nl6m?ctx_brand=tvs.sbd.4000&itscg=MC_20000&itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019800_1-562408044690-c&mttnsubkw=122311402294__4hKcJGw2_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">The Morning Show</a><br>
<a href="https://www.davegrohlstoryteller.com/" rel="nofollow">Dave Grohl&#39;s Storyteller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 76: Not a Numbered List Show</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/76</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we pick our favorite science books (including books that influenced our thinking about science and fictional science books). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Science Book We Love:<br>
Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35167685-surely-you-re-joking-mr-feynman?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=TovsWad36g&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Surely You&#39;re Joking Mr. Feynman: Adventures of a Curious Character</a> by Richard P. Feynman<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/546725.The_Song_of_the_Dodo?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=zDnFv8N40o&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Song of the Dodo: Island Biogeography in an Age of Extinctions</a> by David Quammen<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63697.The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat_and_Other_Clinical_Tales?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Z80AP0znQ0&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales</a> by Oliver Sacks (also <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099077/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_77" rel="nofollow">Awakenings</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28186015-weapons-of-math-destruction?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=B5u0gAGRP1&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3109.The_Omnivore_s_Dilemma?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=RC2YPayS4b&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Omnivore&#39;s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals</a> by Michael Pollan </p>

<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6493208-the-immortal-life-of-henrietta-lacks?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=6iOUqdPvBQ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks</a> by Rebecca Skloot<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18007564-the-martian?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=rpsXKS11sI&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Martian </a>by Andy Weir <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41104077-invisible-women?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=lDk8rVYWCs&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men</a> by Caroline Criado Pérez<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40604658-jurassic-park?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=xSIpuCb9yO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Jurassic Park </a>by Michael Crichton<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/789344.Encyclopedia_Brown_Boy_Detective?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=khutGIcGAM&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Encyclopedia Brown, Boy Detective</a> by Donald J. Sobol</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Science Book We Love:<br>
Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35167685-surely-you-re-joking-mr-feynman?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=TovsWad36g&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Surely You&#39;re Joking Mr. Feynman: Adventures of a Curious Character</a> by Richard P. Feynman<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/546725.The_Song_of_the_Dodo?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=zDnFv8N40o&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Song of the Dodo: Island Biogeography in an Age of Extinctions</a> by David Quammen<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63697.The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat_and_Other_Clinical_Tales?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Z80AP0znQ0&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales</a> by Oliver Sacks (also <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099077/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_77" rel="nofollow">Awakenings</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28186015-weapons-of-math-destruction?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=B5u0gAGRP1&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3109.The_Omnivore_s_Dilemma?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=RC2YPayS4b&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Omnivore&#39;s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals</a> by Michael Pollan </p>

<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6493208-the-immortal-life-of-henrietta-lacks?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=6iOUqdPvBQ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks</a> by Rebecca Skloot<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18007564-the-martian?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=rpsXKS11sI&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Martian </a>by Andy Weir <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41104077-invisible-women?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=lDk8rVYWCs&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men</a> by Caroline Criado Pérez<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40604658-jurassic-park?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=xSIpuCb9yO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Jurassic Park </a>by Michael Crichton<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/789344.Encyclopedia_Brown_Boy_Detective?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=khutGIcGAM&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Encyclopedia Brown, Boy Detective</a> by Donald J. Sobol</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Science Book We Love:<br>
Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35167685-surely-you-re-joking-mr-feynman?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=TovsWad36g&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Surely You&#39;re Joking Mr. Feynman: Adventures of a Curious Character</a> by Richard P. Feynman<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/546725.The_Song_of_the_Dodo?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=zDnFv8N40o&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Song of the Dodo: Island Biogeography in an Age of Extinctions</a> by David Quammen<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/63697.The_Man_Who_Mistook_His_Wife_for_a_Hat_and_Other_Clinical_Tales?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=Z80AP0znQ0&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat and Other Clinical Tales</a> by Oliver Sacks (also <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099077/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_77" rel="nofollow">Awakenings</a>)<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28186015-weapons-of-math-destruction?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=B5u0gAGRP1&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction: How Big Data Increases Inequality and Threatens Democracy</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3109.The_Omnivore_s_Dilemma?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=RC2YPayS4b&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Omnivore&#39;s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals</a> by Michael Pollan </p>

<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6493208-the-immortal-life-of-henrietta-lacks?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=6iOUqdPvBQ&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks</a> by Rebecca Skloot<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18007564-the-martian?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=rpsXKS11sI&rank=1" rel="nofollow">The Martian </a>by Andy Weir <br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41104077-invisible-women?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=lDk8rVYWCs&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Invisible Women: Data Bias in a World Designed for Men</a> by Caroline Criado Pérez<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40604658-jurassic-park?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=xSIpuCb9yO&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Jurassic Park </a>by Michael Crichton<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/789344.Encyclopedia_Brown_Boy_Detective?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=khutGIcGAM&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Encyclopedia Brown, Boy Detective</a> by Donald J. Sobol</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 75: Monkey Business in the Metaverse</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss learning progressions for science teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:55</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss learning progressions for science teacher professional development. In our discussion, we draw heavily on the article titled <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/sce.21027" rel="nofollow">Proposing a core set of instructional practices and tools for teachers of science</a> (Windschitl et al, 2012).</p>

<p>If you&#39;re under 30 and want to know what the game Barrel of Monkeys is, check out: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tender_Bar_(film)" rel="nofollow">Tender Bar on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665612/this-is-your-mind-on-plants-by-michael-pollan/" rel="nofollow">This is Your Mind on Plants by Michael Pollan</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss learning progressions for science teacher professional development. In our discussion, we draw heavily on the article titled <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/sce.21027" rel="nofollow">Proposing a core set of instructional practices and tools for teachers of science</a> (Windschitl et al, 2012).</p>

<p>If you&#39;re under 30 and want to know what the game Barrel of Monkeys is, check out: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tender_Bar_(film)" rel="nofollow">Tender Bar on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665612/this-is-your-mind-on-plants-by-michael-pollan/" rel="nofollow">This is Your Mind on Plants by Michael Pollan</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss learning progressions for science teacher professional development. In our discussion, we draw heavily on the article titled <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/sce.21027" rel="nofollow">Proposing a core set of instructional practices and tools for teachers of science</a> (Windschitl et al, 2012).</p>

<p>If you&#39;re under 30 and want to know what the game Barrel of Monkeys is, check out: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrel_of_Monkeys</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tender_Bar_(film)" rel="nofollow">Tender Bar on Amazon Prime</a><br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/665612/this-is-your-mind-on-plants-by-michael-pollan/" rel="nofollow">This is Your Mind on Plants by Michael Pollan</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 74: Believable or Accurate (To Some Degree)</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This episode we talk about science movies that we love (or at least ones that we think are worth watching). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>35:42</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4846340/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Hidden Figures</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053946/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Inherit the Wind</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097336/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Fat Man and Little Boy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Martian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Apollo 13</a></p>

<p>Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Interstellar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Andromeda Strain </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Primer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543164/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Arrival</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Close Encounters of the Third Kind</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4846340/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Hidden Figures</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053946/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Inherit the Wind</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097336/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Fat Man and Little Boy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Martian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Apollo 13</a></p>

<p>Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Interstellar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Andromeda Strain </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Primer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543164/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Arrival</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Close Encounters of the Third Kind</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Ollie&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4846340/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Hidden Figures</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053946/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Inherit the Wind</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097336/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Fat Man and Little Boy</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3659388/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Martian</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Apollo 13</a></p>

<p>Scott&#39;s Picks:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0816692/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Interstellar</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066769/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Andromeda Strain </a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390384/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Primer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2543164/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Arrival</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0075860/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">Close Encounters of the Third Kind</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 73: A Meta Effort</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we talk about using sensemaking to promote sensemaking. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie unpack their thoughts about teacher professional development and how sensemaking can be used as a tool to promote sensemaking as an instructional practice. For more information, check out NSTA&#39;s <a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">sensemaking site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/projects/mixtape" rel="nofollow">Radio Lab&#39;s Mixtape project</a><br>
<a href="https://gist.github.com/merlinmann/09af1df28d76ba028b0999f66945fd61" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann&#39;s Wisdom Project</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie unpack their thoughts about teacher professional development and how sensemaking can be used as a tool to promote sensemaking as an instructional practice. For more information, check out NSTA&#39;s <a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">sensemaking site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/projects/mixtape" rel="nofollow">Radio Lab&#39;s Mixtape project</a><br>
<a href="https://gist.github.com/merlinmann/09af1df28d76ba028b0999f66945fd61" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann&#39;s Wisdom Project</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie unpack their thoughts about teacher professional development and how sensemaking can be used as a tool to promote sensemaking as an instructional practice. For more information, check out NSTA&#39;s <a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">sensemaking site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/projects/mixtape" rel="nofollow">Radio Lab&#39;s Mixtape project</a><br>
<a href="https://gist.github.com/merlinmann/09af1df28d76ba028b0999f66945fd61" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann&#39;s Wisdom Project</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 72: At the Very End of the Long Tail</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we dip our toe into the questions of why equity matters in science education. We begin with thinking about why sense making is so central to equity.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:45</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-teacher/science-teacher-septemberoctober-2021/c2ast-critical-and-cultural-approaches" rel="nofollow">C2AST - Cultural and Critical Ambitious Science Teaching in the Science Teacher - Thompson, Mawyer, Johnson, and Luehmann.</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/Appendix%20D%20Diversity%20and%20Equity%206-14-13.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS Appendix D</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">NSTA Equity Centered Sensemaking</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://happymoneysaver.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Butterhorns</a> [Not MY Grandmothers recipe, but close]<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14544732/" rel="nofollow">1971 - The Year that Music Changed Everything</a> on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-teacher/science-teacher-septemberoctober-2021/c2ast-critical-and-cultural-approaches" rel="nofollow">C2AST - Cultural and Critical Ambitious Science Teaching in the Science Teacher - Thompson, Mawyer, Johnson, and Luehmann.</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/Appendix%20D%20Diversity%20and%20Equity%206-14-13.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS Appendix D</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">NSTA Equity Centered Sensemaking</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://happymoneysaver.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Butterhorns</a> [Not MY Grandmothers recipe, but close]<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14544732/" rel="nofollow">1971 - The Year that Music Changed Everything</a> on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nsta.org/science-teacher/science-teacher-septemberoctober-2021/c2ast-critical-and-cultural-approaches" rel="nofollow">C2AST - Cultural and Critical Ambitious Science Teaching in the Science Teacher - Thompson, Mawyer, Johnson, and Luehmann.</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/Appendix%20D%20Diversity%20and%20Equity%206-14-13.pdf" rel="nofollow">NGSS Appendix D</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nsta.org/sensemaking#tab" rel="nofollow">NSTA Equity Centered Sensemaking</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://happymoneysaver.com/butterhorns/" rel="nofollow">Butterhorns</a> [Not MY Grandmothers recipe, but close]<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14544732/" rel="nofollow">1971 - The Year that Music Changed Everything</a> on Apple TV+</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 71: Lessons Learned for 2022</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we look back at 2021 and what we've learned that we can apply to the new year ahead.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie look back at 2021 and what we&#39;ve learned that we can apply to the new year ahead. In our discussion, we review some of the challenges from the year with the hope of seeing them as lessons for a better 2022.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/nobody" rel="nofollow">Nobody movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spidermannowayhome.movie/" rel="nofollow">Spiderman: No Way Home movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie look back at 2021 and what we&#39;ve learned that we can apply to the new year ahead. In our discussion, we review some of the challenges from the year with the hope of seeing them as lessons for a better 2022.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/nobody" rel="nofollow">Nobody movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spidermannowayhome.movie/" rel="nofollow">Spiderman: No Way Home movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.universalpictures.com/movies/nobody" rel="nofollow">Nobody movie</a><br>
<a href="https://www.spidermannowayhome.movie/" rel="nofollow">Spiderman: No Way Home movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 70: Stealing Student Agency</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about sense making and its importance to science teaching and learning, and also how it is not argumentation. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:52</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fact Check: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna-Barbera" rel="nofollow">Hanna-Barbera</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_and_Marty_Krofft" rel="nofollow">Sid &amp; Marty Krofft</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_lights" rel="nofollow">Christmas Lights</a><br>
Movies (Maybe Oscar Nominees?) - <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10293406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2" rel="nofollow">Power of the Dog</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11233960/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Unforgivable</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8893974/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Passing</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8310474/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Bruised</a>. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fact Check: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna-Barbera" rel="nofollow">Hanna-Barbera</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_and_Marty_Krofft" rel="nofollow">Sid &amp; Marty Krofft</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_lights" rel="nofollow">Christmas Lights</a><br>
Movies (Maybe Oscar Nominees?) - <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10293406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2" rel="nofollow">Power of the Dog</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11233960/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Unforgivable</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8893974/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Passing</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8310474/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Bruised</a>. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Fact Check: <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna-Barbera" rel="nofollow">Hanna-Barbera</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sid_and_Marty_Krofft" rel="nofollow">Sid &amp; Marty Krofft</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_lights" rel="nofollow">Christmas Lights</a><br>
Movies (Maybe Oscar Nominees?) - <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10293406/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2" rel="nofollow">Power of the Dog</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11233960/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0" rel="nofollow">The Unforgivable</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8893974/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Passing</a>, <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8310474/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1" rel="nofollow">Bruised</a>. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 69: Agency All The Way Down</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we answer the question "Why are we still doing that?" Or at least we talk about that with regard to science teaching. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:04</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie answer the question &quot;Why are we still doing that?&quot; We look at K-12 science classrooms and identify practices and habits that the educational community continues to do, despite reforms and evidence that suggest otherwise.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://the8blog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">The 8 Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/westworld" rel="nofollow">Westworld</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie answer the question &quot;Why are we still doing that?&quot; We look at K-12 science classrooms and identify practices and habits that the educational community continues to do, despite reforms and evidence that suggest otherwise.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://the8blog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">The 8 Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/westworld" rel="nofollow">Westworld</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://the8blog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">The 8 Blog</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/westworld" rel="nofollow">Westworld</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 68: To Express, Not To Know</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we have a special guest, Dr. Leslie Gates, to talk with us about the relationship between materials, learning, and practices when learning science and art.  </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>49:14</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Special Guest: <a href="https://www.millersville.edu/art/faculty-and-staff/tenured/gates-l.php" rel="nofollow">Dr. Leslie Gates</a>, Associate Professor of Art Education, Millersville University <a href="https://lesliegates.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">Personal Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papermaking" rel="nofollow">Papermaking</a><br>
<a href="https://art21.org" rel="nofollow">Art 21 </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dories-Cookies-Dorie-Greenspan/dp/0547614845/" rel="nofollow">Dori&#39;s Cookies</a> by Dori Greenspan - In particular, Macrons (Homemade)<br>
<a href="https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/cacti-succulents/thanksgiving-cactus/thanksgiving-cactus-plant.htm" rel="nofollow">Cactus Blooms</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leftovers" rel="nofollow">Leftovers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Leslie Gates.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Special Guest: <a href="https://www.millersville.edu/art/faculty-and-staff/tenured/gates-l.php" rel="nofollow">Dr. Leslie Gates</a>, Associate Professor of Art Education, Millersville University <a href="https://lesliegates.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">Personal Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papermaking" rel="nofollow">Papermaking</a><br>
<a href="https://art21.org" rel="nofollow">Art 21 </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dories-Cookies-Dorie-Greenspan/dp/0547614845/" rel="nofollow">Dori&#39;s Cookies</a> by Dori Greenspan - In particular, Macrons (Homemade)<br>
<a href="https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/cacti-succulents/thanksgiving-cactus/thanksgiving-cactus-plant.htm" rel="nofollow">Cactus Blooms</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leftovers" rel="nofollow">Leftovers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Leslie Gates.</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Special Guest: <a href="https://www.millersville.edu/art/faculty-and-staff/tenured/gates-l.php" rel="nofollow">Dr. Leslie Gates</a>, Associate Professor of Art Education, Millersville University <a href="https://lesliegates.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">Personal Website</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papermaking" rel="nofollow">Papermaking</a><br>
<a href="https://art21.org" rel="nofollow">Art 21 </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dories-Cookies-Dorie-Greenspan/dp/0547614845/" rel="nofollow">Dori&#39;s Cookies</a> by Dori Greenspan - In particular, Macrons (Homemade)<br>
<a href="https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/ornamental/cacti-succulents/thanksgiving-cactus/thanksgiving-cactus-plant.htm" rel="nofollow">Cactus Blooms</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leftovers" rel="nofollow">Leftovers</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p><p>Special Guest: Leslie Gates.</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 67: Finding Fish That Don't Exist</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss what counts in the world of educational research. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the world of educational research and &quot;what counts.&quot; The discussion was prompted by a conference panel discussion that Ollie participated in where the work of Robert Slavin was commemorated. In the episode, we discuss <a href="https://robertslavinsblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Slavin&#39;s work</a> and <a href="https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/" rel="nofollow">the What Works Clearinghouse</a> as well as <a href="https://visible-learning.org/" rel="nofollow">work by John Hattie</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/group-tabs-ibrwa2d73908/mac" rel="nofollow">Group Tabs in Safari</a><br>
<a href="https://the-gadgeteer.com/2020/12/12/party-monster-5-second-rule-party-game-review/" rel="nofollow">Five Second Rule</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the world of educational research and &quot;what counts.&quot; The discussion was prompted by a conference panel discussion that Ollie participated in where the work of Robert Slavin was commemorated. In the episode, we discuss <a href="https://robertslavinsblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Slavin&#39;s work</a> and <a href="https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/" rel="nofollow">the What Works Clearinghouse</a> as well as <a href="https://visible-learning.org/" rel="nofollow">work by John Hattie</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/group-tabs-ibrwa2d73908/mac" rel="nofollow">Group Tabs in Safari</a><br>
<a href="https://the-gadgeteer.com/2020/12/12/party-monster-5-second-rule-party-game-review/" rel="nofollow">Five Second Rule</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the world of educational research and &quot;what counts.&quot; The discussion was prompted by a conference panel discussion that Ollie participated in where the work of Robert Slavin was commemorated. In the episode, we discuss <a href="https://robertslavinsblog.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">Slavin&#39;s work</a> and <a href="https://ies.ed.gov/ncee/wwc/" rel="nofollow">the What Works Clearinghouse</a> as well as <a href="https://visible-learning.org/" rel="nofollow">work by John Hattie</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://support.apple.com/guide/safari/group-tabs-ibrwa2d73908/mac" rel="nofollow">Group Tabs in Safari</a><br>
<a href="https://the-gadgeteer.com/2020/12/12/party-monster-5-second-rule-party-game-review/" rel="nofollow">Five Second Rule</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 66: Montillating Our Traxoline</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Dec 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/275445d2-7453-47c4-9035-9dac81937e1e.mp3" length="22699908" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about knowing and its relationship to education (mostly science education, but not only).</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:16</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.homeofbob.com/science/instructionMetaphor.html" rel="nofollow">Montillation of Traxoline</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oecd.org/publications/schooling-during-a-pandemic-1c78681e-en.htm" rel="nofollow">OECD Schooling During a Pandemic: The Experience and Outcomes of Schoolchildren During the First Round of COVID-19 Lockdowns</a><br>
<a href="https://www.apa.org/about/apa/addressing-racism/historical-chronology" rel="nofollow">APA Historical Chronology: Examining psychology’s contributions to the belief in racial hierarchy and perpetuation of inequality for people of color in U.S.</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.homeofbob.com/science/instructionMetaphor.html" rel="nofollow">Montillation of Traxoline</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oecd.org/publications/schooling-during-a-pandemic-1c78681e-en.htm" rel="nofollow">OECD Schooling During a Pandemic: The Experience and Outcomes of Schoolchildren During the First Round of COVID-19 Lockdowns</a><br>
<a href="https://www.apa.org/about/apa/addressing-racism/historical-chronology" rel="nofollow">APA Historical Chronology: Examining psychology’s contributions to the belief in racial hierarchy and perpetuation of inequality for people of color in U.S.</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.homeofbob.com/science/instructionMetaphor.html" rel="nofollow">Montillation of Traxoline</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oecd.org/publications/schooling-during-a-pandemic-1c78681e-en.htm" rel="nofollow">OECD Schooling During a Pandemic: The Experience and Outcomes of Schoolchildren During the First Round of COVID-19 Lockdowns</a><br>
<a href="https://www.apa.org/about/apa/addressing-racism/historical-chronology" rel="nofollow">APA Historical Chronology: Examining psychology’s contributions to the belief in racial hierarchy and perpetuation of inequality for people of color in U.S.</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 65: Not Bob's Traveling Show</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss different features of substantive and impactful professional development for teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:30</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss different features of substantive and impactful professional development for teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70308063" rel="nofollow">What happened Ms. Simone? on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/11/08/1053621261/bonus-the-deep-history-of-dune" rel="nofollow">Throughline : The Deep History of Dune</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss different features of substantive and impactful professional development for teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70308063" rel="nofollow">What happened Ms. Simone? on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/11/08/1053621261/bonus-the-deep-history-of-dune" rel="nofollow">Throughline : The Deep History of Dune</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss different features of substantive and impactful professional development for teachers.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/70308063" rel="nofollow">What happened Ms. Simone? on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.npr.org/2021/11/08/1053621261/bonus-the-deep-history-of-dune" rel="nofollow">Throughline : The Deep History of Dune</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 64: Surrounded by Smarter Friends</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/0cedc4de-095c-4599-b267-ef8db9ddcc46.mp3" length="26016832" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about how to change schools, or at least begin to try to talk about it. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>54:11</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Ten" rel="nofollow">Committee of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aapt.org/Resources/policy/physicsfirst.cfm" rel="nofollow">Physics First</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(comics)" rel="nofollow">Saga</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_K._Vaughan" rel="nofollow">Brian K. Vaughn</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Staples" rel="nofollow">Fiona Staples</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Change-Science-Getting-Where/dp/059308375X" rel="nofollow">How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be</a> by Katy Milkman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Ten" rel="nofollow">Committee of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aapt.org/Resources/policy/physicsfirst.cfm" rel="nofollow">Physics First</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(comics)" rel="nofollow">Saga</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_K._Vaughan" rel="nofollow">Brian K. Vaughn</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Staples" rel="nofollow">Fiona Staples</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Change-Science-Getting-Where/dp/059308375X" rel="nofollow">How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be</a> by Katy Milkman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committee_of_Ten" rel="nofollow">Committee of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aapt.org/Resources/policy/physicsfirst.cfm" rel="nofollow">Physics First</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saga_(comics)" rel="nofollow">Saga</a> by <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_K._Vaughan" rel="nofollow">Brian K. Vaughn</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiona_Staples" rel="nofollow">Fiona Staples</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/How-Change-Science-Getting-Where/dp/059308375X" rel="nofollow">How to Change: The Science of Getting from Where You Are to Where You Want to Be</a> by Katy Milkman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 63: Total Dumbness and Horoscopes</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the standardization movement and why schools and disciplines have content standards.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the standardization movement and why schools and disciplines have content standards. <br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">NRC Framework for K-12 Science Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/4962/national-science-education-standards" rel="nofollow">National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/9596/inquiry-and-the-national-science-education-standards-a-guide-for" rel="nofollow">Inquiry and the National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Teachers%20-%20Administrators/Curriculum/Science/Pages/Science-Standards.aspx" rel="nofollow">Pennsylvania State Science, Technology, Environment, and Ecology Standards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/southlake/id1582213644" rel="nofollow">South Lake Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fish-Dont-Exist-Hidden/dp/1501160273" rel="nofollow">Why Fish Don&#39;t Exist</a> by <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/348775905/lulu-miller" rel="nofollow">Lulu Miller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the standardization movement and why schools and disciplines have content standards. <br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">NRC Framework for K-12 Science Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/4962/national-science-education-standards" rel="nofollow">National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/9596/inquiry-and-the-national-science-education-standards-a-guide-for" rel="nofollow">Inquiry and the National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Teachers%20-%20Administrators/Curriculum/Science/Pages/Science-Standards.aspx" rel="nofollow">Pennsylvania State Science, Technology, Environment, and Ecology Standards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/southlake/id1582213644" rel="nofollow">South Lake Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fish-Dont-Exist-Hidden/dp/1501160273" rel="nofollow">Why Fish Don&#39;t Exist</a> by <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/348775905/lulu-miller" rel="nofollow">Lulu Miller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the standardization movement and why schools and disciplines have content standards. <br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">NRC Framework for K-12 Science Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/4962/national-science-education-standards" rel="nofollow">National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/9596/inquiry-and-the-national-science-education-standards-a-guide-for" rel="nofollow">Inquiry and the National Science Education Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.education.pa.gov/Teachers%20-%20Administrators/Curriculum/Science/Pages/Science-Standards.aspx" rel="nofollow">Pennsylvania State Science, Technology, Environment, and Ecology Standards</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/southlake/id1582213644" rel="nofollow">South Lake Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Why-Fish-Dont-Exist-Hidden/dp/1501160273" rel="nofollow">Why Fish Don&#39;t Exist</a> by <a href="https://www.npr.org/people/348775905/lulu-miller" rel="nofollow">Lulu Miller</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 62: Free as in Beer (not as in Speech)</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This episode we talk about Open Education Resources (OER) as a tool for teachers and teacher educators to use when supporting student learning. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_educational_resources" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources (OER)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" rel="nofollow">Linux</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain" rel="nofollow">Public Domain</a><br>
<a href="https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2021/" rel="nofollow">Public Domain Day</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig" rel="nofollow">Lawrence Lessig</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_license" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds" rel="nofollow">Wisdom of Crowds</a><br>
<a href="https://ist.psu.edu/directory/clg20" rel="nofollow">C. Lee Giles</a> and <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/index;jsessionid=29A3CA32493600A6FD98427C1B13C0BF" rel="nofollow">Cite Seer X</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">OER Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org" rel="nofollow">Open SCIED</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Book Stores (in Scott&#39;s case: <a href="https://www.webstersbooksandcafe.com" rel="nofollow">Webster&#39;s Bookstore and Cafe</a>, State College, PA)<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526" rel="nofollow">Sex Education</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_educational_resources" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources (OER)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" rel="nofollow">Linux</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain" rel="nofollow">Public Domain</a><br>
<a href="https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2021/" rel="nofollow">Public Domain Day</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig" rel="nofollow">Lawrence Lessig</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_license" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds" rel="nofollow">Wisdom of Crowds</a><br>
<a href="https://ist.psu.edu/directory/clg20" rel="nofollow">C. Lee Giles</a> and <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/index;jsessionid=29A3CA32493600A6FD98427C1B13C0BF" rel="nofollow">Cite Seer X</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">OER Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org" rel="nofollow">Open SCIED</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Book Stores (in Scott&#39;s case: <a href="https://www.webstersbooksandcafe.com" rel="nofollow">Webster&#39;s Bookstore and Cafe</a>, State College, PA)<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526" rel="nofollow">Sex Education</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_educational_resources" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources (OER)</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" rel="nofollow">Linux</a><br>
<a href="https://www.wikipedia.org" rel="nofollow">Wikipedia</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_domain" rel="nofollow">Public Domain</a><br>
<a href="https://web.law.duke.edu/cspd/publicdomainday/2021/" rel="nofollow">Public Domain Day</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Lessig" rel="nofollow">Lawrence Lessig</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creative_Commons_license" rel="nofollow">Creative Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds" rel="nofollow">Wisdom of Crowds</a><br>
<a href="https://ist.psu.edu/directory/clg20" rel="nofollow">C. Lee Giles</a> and <a href="http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/index;jsessionid=29A3CA32493600A6FD98427C1B13C0BF" rel="nofollow">Cite Seer X</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">OER Commons</a><br>
<a href="https://www.openscied.org" rel="nofollow">Open SCIED</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Book Stores (in Scott&#39;s case: <a href="https://www.webstersbooksandcafe.com" rel="nofollow">Webster&#39;s Bookstore and Cafe</a>, State College, PA)<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80197526" rel="nofollow">Sex Education</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 61: From Curb Cuts to Classrooms</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Universal Design for Learning and how it can help to make learning more inclusive.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:02</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and how it can help to make learning more inclusive. Built on the concepts of &quot;Universal Design&quot; in architecture, UDL focuses on a series of practices that can inform our design of learning environments, resources and assessments.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.cast.org/impact/universal-design-for-learning-udl" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.michiganderband.com" rel="nofollow">Michigander</a> <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Styles" rel="nofollow">Harry Styles</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, universal design for learning, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and how it can help to make learning more inclusive. Built on the concepts of &quot;Universal Design&quot; in architecture, UDL focuses on a series of practices that can inform our design of learning environments, resources and assessments.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.cast.org/impact/universal-design-for-learning-udl" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.michiganderband.com" rel="nofollow">Michigander</a> <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Styles" rel="nofollow">Harry Styles</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss Universal Design for Learning (UDL) and how it can help to make learning more inclusive. Built on the concepts of &quot;Universal Design&quot; in architecture, UDL focuses on a series of practices that can inform our design of learning environments, resources and assessments.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.cast.org/impact/universal-design-for-learning-udl" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.michiganderband.com" rel="nofollow">Michigander</a> <br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Styles" rel="nofollow">Harry Styles</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 60: This IS What The People Come For</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Ollie went to his first conference since the pandemic started and he wants to debrief.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:23</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We take a break from the talk about inclusive practices for an episode to talk about what we like and what we hate about conferencing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files" rel="nofollow">The Dresden Files Novels </a>by Jim Butcher <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344" rel="nofollow">Squid Game</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn, science teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We take a break from the talk about inclusive practices for an episode to talk about what we like and what we hate about conferencing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files" rel="nofollow">The Dresden Files Novels </a>by Jim Butcher <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344" rel="nofollow">Squid Game</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>We take a break from the talk about inclusive practices for an episode to talk about what we like and what we hate about conferencing. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dresden_Files" rel="nofollow">The Dresden Files Novels </a>by Jim Butcher <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81040344" rel="nofollow">Squid Game</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 59: Pocket Full of Questions</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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<p>Near the end, we briefly discuss work by Jessica Thompson, Elham Kazemi and Magdalene Lampert. Some articles to check out include:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0161956X.2014.938997" rel="nofollow">Practice Makes Practice: Learning to Teach in Teacher Education</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022487109347321" rel="nofollow">Learning Teaching in, from, and for Practice: What Do We Mean? </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608669/harlem-shuffle-by-colson-whitehead/" rel="nofollow">Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead</a> / <a href="https://abc.com/shows/the-wonder-years" rel="nofollow">the Wonder Years reboot</a><br>
Bodywork / Massage Therapy</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss pressing for evidence-based explanations. As the final set of practices in Ambitious Science Teaching, this phase involves helping students construct a final, evidence-based explanatory model for the phenomenon. As we discuss this practice, we also talk more generally about the powerful impact of asking good questions and how we support new teachers&#39; development.</p>

<p>Near the end, we briefly discuss work by Jessica Thompson, Elham Kazemi and Magdalene Lampert. Some articles to check out include:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0161956X.2014.938997" rel="nofollow">Practice Makes Practice: Learning to Teach in Teacher Education</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022487109347321" rel="nofollow">Learning Teaching in, from, and for Practice: What Do We Mean? </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608669/harlem-shuffle-by-colson-whitehead/" rel="nofollow">Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead</a> / <a href="https://abc.com/shows/the-wonder-years" rel="nofollow">the Wonder Years reboot</a><br>
Bodywork / Massage Therapy</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Near the end, we briefly discuss work by Jessica Thompson, Elham Kazemi and Magdalene Lampert. Some articles to check out include:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/0161956X.2014.938997" rel="nofollow">Practice Makes Practice: Learning to Teach in Teacher Education</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022487109347321" rel="nofollow">Learning Teaching in, from, and for Practice: What Do We Mean? </a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/608669/harlem-shuffle-by-colson-whitehead/" rel="nofollow">Harlem Shuffle by Colson Whitehead</a> / <a href="https://abc.com/shows/the-wonder-years" rel="nofollow">the Wonder Years reboot</a><br>
Bodywork / Massage Therapy</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 58: Not The Nonsense You Came For</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the second AST practice, supporting students' on-going thinking.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:30</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/planning-engagement-important-science-ideas-3/" rel="nofollow">Supporting On-Going Thinking Practices</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservation Dogs</a> on FX via Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/" rel="nofollow">After Life</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/planning-engagement-important-science-ideas-3/" rel="nofollow">Supporting On-Going Thinking Practices</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservation Dogs</a> on FX via Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/" rel="nofollow">After Life</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/planning-engagement-important-science-ideas-3/" rel="nofollow">Supporting On-Going Thinking Practices</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/reservation-dogs" rel="nofollow">Reservation Dogs</a> on FX via Hulu<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8398600/" rel="nofollow">After Life</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 57: Not Scott's Age. Or Episode 56</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we dig into the second phase of Ambitious Science Teaching: Eliciting students' ideas.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:29</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode (which is actually episode 57), we dig further into inclusive practices and discuss the second phase of Ambitious Science Teaching (AST): eliciting student ideas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/elvis-costello-this-years-model-spanish-1197730/" rel="nofollow">Spanish Model by Elvis Costello</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoil Surfboard</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode (which is actually episode 57), we dig further into inclusive practices and discuss the second phase of Ambitious Science Teaching (AST): eliciting student ideas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/elvis-costello-this-years-model-spanish-1197730/" rel="nofollow">Spanish Model by Elvis Costello</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoil Surfboard</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode (which is actually episode 57), we dig further into inclusive practices and discuss the second phase of Ambitious Science Teaching (AST): eliciting student ideas. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-latin/elvis-costello-this-years-model-spanish-1197730/" rel="nofollow">Spanish Model by Elvis Costello</a><br>
<a href="https://liftfoils.com" rel="nofollow">Lift Hydrofoil Surfboard</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 56: The Big Umbrella</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 22 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>2</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we begin a conversation about equity and inclusive and responsive practices for engaging all students in school in productive ways, sometimes described as inclusion. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:10</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://udlguidelines.cast.org" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang-Chi_and_the_Legend_of_the_Ten_Rings" rel="nofollow">Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cherylstrayed.com/wild_108676.htm" rel="nofollow">Wild</a> by Cheryl Strayed<br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://udlguidelines.cast.org" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang-Chi_and_the_Legend_of_the_Ten_Rings" rel="nofollow">Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cherylstrayed.com/wild_108676.htm" rel="nofollow">Wild</a> by Cheryl Strayed<br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">Ambitious Science Teaching</a><br>
<a href="https://udlguidelines.cast.org" rel="nofollow">Universal Design for Learning</a><br>
<a href="https://www.oercommons.org" rel="nofollow">Open Educational Resources</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shang-Chi_and_the_Legend_of_the_Ten_Rings" rel="nofollow">Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings</a><br>
<a href="https://www.cherylstrayed.com/wild_108676.htm" rel="nofollow">Wild</a> by Cheryl Strayed<br>
Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 55: Good Things Come in Threes</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this final episode in our "teacher education trilogy," Scott and Ollie discuss the current preparation programs at their institutions and how their design was informed by research.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:22</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this final episode in our &quot;teacher education trilogy,&quot; Scott and Ollie discuss the current preparation programs at their institutions and how their design was informed by research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/animation/what-if/1" rel="nofollow">Marvel&#39;s What if...? on Disney +</a><br>
<a href="https://longwoodgardens.org/" rel="nofollow">Longwood Gardens</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this final episode in our &quot;teacher education trilogy,&quot; Scott and Ollie discuss the current preparation programs at their institutions and how their design was informed by research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/animation/what-if/1" rel="nofollow">Marvel&#39;s What if...? on Disney +</a><br>
<a href="https://longwoodgardens.org/" rel="nofollow">Longwood Gardens</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this final episode in our &quot;teacher education trilogy,&quot; Scott and Ollie discuss the current preparation programs at their institutions and how their design was informed by research.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/tv-shows/animation/what-if/1" rel="nofollow">Marvel&#39;s What if...? on Disney +</a><br>
<a href="https://longwoodgardens.org/" rel="nofollow">Longwood Gardens</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 54: My Minion, Not My Lackey </title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We continue our conversation around science teacher preparation, specifically our own experience with being prepared to teach science. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:36</itunes:duration>
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      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi05oPZxMryAhUGEVkFHaF1DMEQFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInvisible_College&usg=AOvVaw0annRKyrNvdnbqH-J0Wyet" rel="nofollow">Invisible College</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org" rel="nofollow">Professional Development Schools</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org/nine-essentials/" rel="nofollow">The Nine Essentials</a><br>
<a href="https://www.edtpa.com" rel="nofollow">edTPA</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Live Music - <a href="https://greenday.com" rel="nofollow">Green Day</a>, <a href="https://weezer.com" rel="nofollow">Weezer</a>, and <a href="https://falloutboy.com" rel="nofollow">Fall Out Boy</a><br>
<a href="http://maintenancephase.com" rel="nofollow">Maintenance Phase Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi05oPZxMryAhUGEVkFHaF1DMEQFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInvisible_College&usg=AOvVaw0annRKyrNvdnbqH-J0Wyet" rel="nofollow">Invisible College</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org" rel="nofollow">Professional Development Schools</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org/nine-essentials/" rel="nofollow">The Nine Essentials</a><br>
<a href="https://www.edtpa.com" rel="nofollow">edTPA</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Live Music - <a href="https://greenday.com" rel="nofollow">Green Day</a>, <a href="https://weezer.com" rel="nofollow">Weezer</a>, and <a href="https://falloutboy.com" rel="nofollow">Fall Out Boy</a><br>
<a href="http://maintenancephase.com" rel="nofollow">Maintenance Phase Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwi05oPZxMryAhUGEVkFHaF1DMEQFnoECAMQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FInvisible_College&usg=AOvVaw0annRKyrNvdnbqH-J0Wyet" rel="nofollow">Invisible College</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org" rel="nofollow">Professional Development Schools</a><br>
<a href="https://napds.org/nine-essentials/" rel="nofollow">The Nine Essentials</a><br>
<a href="https://www.edtpa.com" rel="nofollow">edTPA</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Live Music - <a href="https://greenday.com" rel="nofollow">Green Day</a>, <a href="https://weezer.com" rel="nofollow">Weezer</a>, and <a href="https://falloutboy.com" rel="nofollow">Fall Out Boy</a><br>
<a href="http://maintenancephase.com" rel="nofollow">Maintenance Phase Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 53: Ten Thousand Hours Ago</title>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Sep 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie share their experiences with their teacher education programs. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>51:25</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie share their experiences with their teacher education programs and their mentors. Since many universities are starting their fall semesters, it prompted Scott &amp; Ollie to talk about their education and preparation as science teachers.</p>

<p>During their discussion, they bring up the concept of &quot;Ten Thousand Hours&quot; which was discussed in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017930" rel="nofollow">Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s book Outliers</a>. For more information on this, check out: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26384712" rel="nofollow">Can 10,000 hours of practice make you an expert? </a> or </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/" rel="nofollow">99% Invisible Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaa.com/stop/" rel="nofollow">AAA</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie share their experiences with their teacher education programs and their mentors. Since many universities are starting their fall semesters, it prompted Scott &amp; Ollie to talk about their education and preparation as science teachers.</p>

<p>During their discussion, they bring up the concept of &quot;Ten Thousand Hours&quot; which was discussed in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017930" rel="nofollow">Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s book Outliers</a>. For more information on this, check out: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26384712" rel="nofollow">Can 10,000 hours of practice make you an expert? </a> or </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/" rel="nofollow">99% Invisible Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaa.com/stop/" rel="nofollow">AAA</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie share their experiences with their teacher education programs and their mentors. Since many universities are starting their fall semesters, it prompted Scott &amp; Ollie to talk about their education and preparation as science teachers.</p>

<p>During their discussion, they bring up the concept of &quot;Ten Thousand Hours&quot; which was discussed in <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Outliers-Story-Success-Malcolm-Gladwell/dp/0316017930" rel="nofollow">Malcolm Gladwell&#39;s book Outliers</a>. For more information on this, check out: <a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26384712" rel="nofollow">Can 10,000 hours of practice make you an expert? </a> or </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://99percentinvisible.org/" rel="nofollow">99% Invisible Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://www.aaa.com/stop/" rel="nofollow">AAA</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 52: Joy to the World</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>For this last episode of season one we just talk joys. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>57:01</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p><strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="http://5by5.tv/b2w" rel="nofollow">Back to Work</a> / <a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconsiliable Differences</a> / <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com/roderick/" rel="nofollow">Roderick on the Line</a> (Podcasts in the <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann</a>(iverse)<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/phase-zero/id1548544607" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero Podcast</a></p>

<p><strong>Smartphone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">Duolingo </a><br>
<a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent Happier</a></p>

<p><strong>Streamable Series</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ted_lasso" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso </a>on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/letterkenny" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Hulu</p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7556122/" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

<p><strong>Book - Entertainment</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">Deadly Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23604559-my-grandmother-asked-me-to-tell-you-she-s-sorry" rel="nofollow">My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She&#39;s Sorry</a> by Fredrik Backman</p>

<p><strong>Book - Professional</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/738083.Meeting_the_Universe_Halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad<br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/On-Being-a-Mentor-A-Guide-for-Higher-Education-Faculty-Second-Edition/Johnson/p/book/9781138892279" rel="nofollow">On Being a Mentor </a> by W. Brad Johnson</p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/48" rel="nofollow">Ep. 48: Haters Have Got to Hate (Or Do They?)</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/22" rel="nofollow">Ep. 22: The Hero Teacher, But Not THAT One</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode Title</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/7" rel="nofollow">Episode 7: Death March with Fun Sauce</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/26" rel="nofollow">Episode 26: Poo Poo the Recurring Character</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite Joy of the Joys</strong><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p><strong>Favorite New (or new to you) Musical Artist</strong><br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks" rel="nofollow">Japenese Breakfast </a><br>
<a href="https://www.amythystkiah.com" rel="nofollow">Amythyst Kiah</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p><strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="http://5by5.tv/b2w" rel="nofollow">Back to Work</a> / <a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconsiliable Differences</a> / <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com/roderick/" rel="nofollow">Roderick on the Line</a> (Podcasts in the <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann</a>(iverse)<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/phase-zero/id1548544607" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero Podcast</a></p>

<p><strong>Smartphone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">Duolingo </a><br>
<a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent Happier</a></p>

<p><strong>Streamable Series</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ted_lasso" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso </a>on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/letterkenny" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Hulu</p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7556122/" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

<p><strong>Book - Entertainment</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">Deadly Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23604559-my-grandmother-asked-me-to-tell-you-she-s-sorry" rel="nofollow">My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She&#39;s Sorry</a> by Fredrik Backman</p>

<p><strong>Book - Professional</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/738083.Meeting_the_Universe_Halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad<br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/On-Being-a-Mentor-A-Guide-for-Higher-Education-Faculty-Second-Edition/Johnson/p/book/9781138892279" rel="nofollow">On Being a Mentor </a> by W. Brad Johnson</p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/48" rel="nofollow">Ep. 48: Haters Have Got to Hate (Or Do They?)</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/22" rel="nofollow">Ep. 22: The Hero Teacher, But Not THAT One</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode Title</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/7" rel="nofollow">Episode 7: Death March with Fun Sauce</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/26" rel="nofollow">Episode 26: Poo Poo the Recurring Character</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite Joy of the Joys</strong><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p><strong>Favorite New (or new to you) Musical Artist</strong><br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks" rel="nofollow">Japenese Breakfast </a><br>
<a href="https://www.amythystkiah.com" rel="nofollow">Amythyst Kiah</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:</p>

<p><strong>Podcast</strong><br>
<a href="http://5by5.tv/b2w" rel="nofollow">Back to Work</a> / <a href="https://www.relay.fm/rd" rel="nofollow">Reconsiliable Differences</a> / <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com/roderick/" rel="nofollow">Roderick on the Line</a> (Podcasts in the <a href="http://www.merlinmann.com" rel="nofollow">Merlin Mann</a>(iverse)<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/phase-zero/id1548544607" rel="nofollow">Phase Zero Podcast</a></p>

<p><strong>Smartphone App</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.duolingo.com" rel="nofollow">Duolingo </a><br>
<a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent Happier</a></p>

<p><strong>Streamable Series</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/ted_lasso" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso </a>on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/letterkenny" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Hulu</p>

<p><strong>Movie</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5363618/" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7556122/" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard</a></p>

<p><strong>Book - Entertainment</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">Deadly Education</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/23604559-my-grandmother-asked-me-to-tell-you-she-s-sorry" rel="nofollow">My Grandmother Asked Me to Tell You She&#39;s Sorry</a> by Fredrik Backman</p>

<p><strong>Book - Professional</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/738083.Meeting_the_Universe_Halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad<br>
<a href="https://www.routledge.com/On-Being-a-Mentor-A-Guide-for-Higher-Education-Faculty-Second-Edition/Johnson/p/book/9781138892279" rel="nofollow">On Being a Mentor </a> by W. Brad Johnson</p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/48" rel="nofollow">Ep. 48: Haters Have Got to Hate (Or Do They?)</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/22" rel="nofollow">Ep. 22: The Hero Teacher, But Not THAT One</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite SIB Episode Title</strong><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/7" rel="nofollow">Episode 7: Death March with Fun Sauce</a><br>
<a href="https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/26" rel="nofollow">Episode 26: Poo Poo the Recurring Character</a></p>

<p><strong>Favorite Joy of the Joys</strong><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p><strong>Favorite New (or new to you) Musical Artist</strong><br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks" rel="nofollow">Japenese Breakfast </a><br>
<a href="https://www.amythystkiah.com" rel="nofollow">Amythyst Kiah</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 51: Harumph!</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we dig deeper into phenomenon-based teaching and what it would look like in a classroom setting.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:14</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode of season 1, we dig deeper into phenomenon-based teaching and what it would look like in classroom settings. In our discussion, we introduce the book Fish is Fish by Leo Lionni as a way to highlight how people react when presented with radically new ideas. You can check out the book at: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/" rel="nofollow">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Allison and all of our listeners! As we finish season one of this podcast, we appreciate all of you who are listeners. You bring us joy!</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning, how people learn</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode of season 1, we dig deeper into phenomenon-based teaching and what it would look like in classroom settings. In our discussion, we introduce the book Fish is Fish by Leo Lionni as a way to highlight how people react when presented with radically new ideas. You can check out the book at: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/" rel="nofollow">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Allison and all of our listeners! As we finish season one of this podcast, we appreciate all of you who are listeners. You bring us joy!</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode of season 1, we dig deeper into phenomenon-based teaching and what it would look like in classroom settings. In our discussion, we introduce the book Fish is Fish by Leo Lionni as a way to highlight how people react when presented with radically new ideas. You can check out the book at: <a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/" rel="nofollow">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/101915/fish-is-fish-by-leo-lionni/</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
Allison and all of our listeners! As we finish season one of this podcast, we appreciate all of you who are listeners. You bring us joy!</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 50: Mahna Mahna Do Do Do Do Do</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This episode we talk about the difference between a phenomenon and a science topic and why people should care about it. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Bandura" rel="nofollow">Albert Bandura</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnk0Be4a0aw" rel="nofollow">Phenomena</a> by the Muppets<br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/high-school-%E2%80%A2-gas-laws-%E2%80%A2-legacy-series/" rel="nofollow">The tanker lesson</a> on <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">AST website</a>.<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYRqsRZ7vE" rel="nofollow">Bill and Ted Meet Socrates</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GX0gQ9AKAgr5cuAEAAAG_" rel="nofollow">Great Pottery Throwdown</a> on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3x3_basketball" rel="nofollow">3 on 3 Basketball</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Bandura" rel="nofollow">Albert Bandura</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnk0Be4a0aw" rel="nofollow">Phenomena</a> by the Muppets<br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/high-school-%E2%80%A2-gas-laws-%E2%80%A2-legacy-series/" rel="nofollow">The tanker lesson</a> on <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">AST website</a>.<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYRqsRZ7vE" rel="nofollow">Bill and Ted Meet Socrates</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GX0gQ9AKAgr5cuAEAAAG_" rel="nofollow">Great Pottery Throwdown</a> on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3x3_basketball" rel="nofollow">3 on 3 Basketball</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Bandura" rel="nofollow">Albert Bandura</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dnk0Be4a0aw" rel="nofollow">Phenomena</a> by the Muppets<br>
<a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org/high-school-%E2%80%A2-gas-laws-%E2%80%A2-legacy-series/" rel="nofollow">The tanker lesson</a> on <a href="https://ambitiousscienceteaching.org" rel="nofollow">AST website</a>.<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvYRqsRZ7vE" rel="nofollow">Bill and Ted Meet Socrates</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GX0gQ9AKAgr5cuAEAAAG_" rel="nofollow">Great Pottery Throwdown</a> on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Games" rel="nofollow">Olympics</a> - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3x3_basketball" rel="nofollow">3 on 3 Basketball</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 49: Not about Pornography, Eugenics or Psychopathy</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we finish up our discussion of pedagogical content knowledge and examine the larger impacts (and unintended consequences) of measuring things.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we finish up our discussion of pedagogical content knowledge and examine the larger impacts (and unintended consequences) of measuring things. Along the way, we discuss several books and podcasts including:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/241363/weapons-of-math-destruction-by-cathy-oneil/" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O&#39;Neil</a><br>
<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/" rel="nofollow">Algorithms of Oppression by Safiya Umoja Noble</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/436/the-psychopath-test" rel="nofollow">The Psychopath Test on This American Life</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?ign-itscg=MC_20000&ign-itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970941-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__rdMG7cVq_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso, Season 2 on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.paulmccartney.com/news-blogs/hulu-and-paul-mccartney-come-together-for-original-documentary-music-series-event" rel="nofollow">McCartney 3, 2, 1 on Hulu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we finish up our discussion of pedagogical content knowledge and examine the larger impacts (and unintended consequences) of measuring things. Along the way, we discuss several books and podcasts including:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/241363/weapons-of-math-destruction-by-cathy-oneil/" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O&#39;Neil</a><br>
<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/" rel="nofollow">Algorithms of Oppression by Safiya Umoja Noble</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/436/the-psychopath-test" rel="nofollow">The Psychopath Test on This American Life</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?ign-itscg=MC_20000&ign-itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970941-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__rdMG7cVq_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso, Season 2 on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.paulmccartney.com/news-blogs/hulu-and-paul-mccartney-come-together-for-original-documentary-music-series-event" rel="nofollow">McCartney 3, 2, 1 on Hulu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we finish up our discussion of pedagogical content knowledge and examine the larger impacts (and unintended consequences) of measuring things. Along the way, we discuss several books and podcasts including:<br>
<a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/241363/weapons-of-math-destruction-by-cathy-oneil/" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction by Cathy O&#39;Neil</a><br>
<a href="https://nyupress.org/9781479837243/algorithms-of-oppression/" rel="nofollow">Algorithms of Oppression by Safiya Umoja Noble</a><br>
<a href="https://www.thisamericanlife.org/436/the-psychopath-test" rel="nofollow">The Psychopath Test on This American Life</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://tv.apple.com/show/umc.cmc.vtoh0mn0xn7t3c643xqonfzy?ign-itscg=MC_20000&ign-itsct=atvp_brand_omd&mttn3pid=Google%20AdWords&mttnagencyid=a5e&mttncc=US&mttnsiteid=143238&mttnsubad=OUS2019863_1-535101970941-c&mttnsubkw=106182847425__rdMG7cVq_&mttnsubplmnt=" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso, Season 2 on Apple TV+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.paulmccartney.com/news-blogs/hulu-and-paul-mccartney-come-together-for-original-documentary-music-series-event" rel="nofollow">McCartney 3, 2, 1 on Hulu</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 48: Haters Have Got to Hate (or Do They?)</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We continue the conversation about PCK and its spawn. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(character)" rel="nofollow">Spawn</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9893250/" rel="nofollow">I Care a Lot</a><br>
<a href="https://narst.org/research-matters/pedagogical-content-knowledge" rel="nofollow">Pedagogical Content Knowledge</a><br>
Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.<br><br>
&quot;Whatever exists at all exists in some amount. To know it thoroughly involves knowing its quantity as well as its quality.&quot; - Edward L. Thorndike. (1918). The nature, purposes, and general methods of measurements of educational products. Chapter II in G.M. Whipple (Ed.), The Seventeenth yearbook of the National Society for Study of Education. Part II. The Measurement of Educational Products. Bloomington, IL: Public School Publishing Co. p. 16.<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_Math_Destruction" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" rel="nofollow">Meditation</a> and apps to help like, <a href="https://www.calm.com" rel="nofollow">Calm</a>, <a href="https://www.headspace.com" rel="nofollow">Headspace</a>, or <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Soul" rel="nofollow">The Summer of Soul</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(character)" rel="nofollow">Spawn</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9893250/" rel="nofollow">I Care a Lot</a><br>
<a href="https://narst.org/research-matters/pedagogical-content-knowledge" rel="nofollow">Pedagogical Content Knowledge</a><br>
Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.<br><br>
&quot;Whatever exists at all exists in some amount. To know it thoroughly involves knowing its quantity as well as its quality.&quot; - Edward L. Thorndike. (1918). The nature, purposes, and general methods of measurements of educational products. Chapter II in G.M. Whipple (Ed.), The Seventeenth yearbook of the National Society for Study of Education. Part II. The Measurement of Educational Products. Bloomington, IL: Public School Publishing Co. p. 16.<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_Math_Destruction" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" rel="nofollow">Meditation</a> and apps to help like, <a href="https://www.calm.com" rel="nofollow">Calm</a>, <a href="https://www.headspace.com" rel="nofollow">Headspace</a>, or <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Soul" rel="nofollow">The Summer of Soul</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spawn_(character)" rel="nofollow">Spawn</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9893250/" rel="nofollow">I Care a Lot</a><br>
<a href="https://narst.org/research-matters/pedagogical-content-knowledge" rel="nofollow">Pedagogical Content Knowledge</a><br>
Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.<br><br>
&quot;Whatever exists at all exists in some amount. To know it thoroughly involves knowing its quantity as well as its quality.&quot; - Edward L. Thorndike. (1918). The nature, purposes, and general methods of measurements of educational products. Chapter II in G.M. Whipple (Ed.), The Seventeenth yearbook of the National Society for Study of Education. Part II. The Measurement of Educational Products. Bloomington, IL: Public School Publishing Co. p. 16.<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weapons_of_Math_Destruction" rel="nofollow">Weapons of Math Destruction</a> by Cathy O&#39;Neil</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation" rel="nofollow">Meditation</a> and apps to help like, <a href="https://www.calm.com" rel="nofollow">Calm</a>, <a href="https://www.headspace.com" rel="nofollow">Headspace</a>, or <a href="https://www.tenpercent.com" rel="nofollow">Ten Percent</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summer_of_Soul" rel="nofollow">The Summer of Soul</a> on Hulu</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 47: Scott's Swear Jar</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we discuss PCK (pedagogical content knowledge) and its impact on the field of education and teacher education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.  The article introduced the concept of Pedagogical Content Knowledge (PCK) and we discuss the broader impacts of the concept on the field of education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-widow" rel="nofollow">Black Widow on Disney+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80002479" rel="nofollow">Peaky Blinders on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.  The article introduced the concept of Pedagogical Content Knowledge (PCK) and we discuss the broader impacts of the concept on the field of education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-widow" rel="nofollow">Black Widow on Disney+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80002479" rel="nofollow">Peaky Blinders on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we discuss Lee Shulman&#39;s seminal 1986 article, <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1175860.pdf?casa_token=gb6WKVS_S_QAAAAA:dWWUzHffwOS-5hr7nfDzBFdPG_Ik2hVehnvhLTQ-_htvRTnyCtgSeTv8LU7nRSmluFkggYrV2LBbb9TlPmdvzK0RiyI64uALzGjHwghPtZ1MhmtENAT6gw" rel="nofollow">Those Who Understand: Knowledge Growth in Teaching</a>.  The article introduced the concept of Pedagogical Content Knowledge (PCK) and we discuss the broader impacts of the concept on the field of education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.marvel.com/movies/black-widow" rel="nofollow">Black Widow on Disney+</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80002479" rel="nofollow">Peaky Blinders on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 46: Not All Friends of the Show</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we summarize our discussion of learning theory and talk about why teachers (or anyone) should care about it. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">A Deadly Education</a> by Naomi Novik<br>
<a href="https://electra.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/" rel="nofollow">Electric Townie Bikes </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">A Deadly Education</a> by Naomi Novik<br>
<a href="https://electra.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/" rel="nofollow">Electric Townie Bikes </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/50548197-a-deadly-education" rel="nofollow">A Deadly Education</a> by Naomi Novik<br>
<a href="https://electra.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/" rel="nofollow">Electric Townie Bikes </a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 45: Our Mid-Life Crisis Episode</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this week's episode, we discuss the research on learning progressions in science education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss the research on learning progressions in science education by examining two articles. The <a href="https://dhammer.phy.tufts.edu/home/publications_files/HammerandSikorskiLPessay.pdf" rel="nofollow">first article</a> is from Hammer &amp; Sikorski (2015) which examines the implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. The <a href="https://inquiryproject.terc.edu/about/presentations-reports/Wiser-2009-LeaPS.pdf" rel="nofollow">second article</a> outlines a way that learning progressions can be used as a tool for curriculum development.</p>

<p>References:<br>
Hammer, D., &amp; Sikorski, T. R. (2015). Implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. Science Education, 99(3), 424-431.<br>
Wiser, M., Smith, C. L., &amp; Doubler, S. (2012). Learning progressions as tools for curriculum development: Lessons from the Inquiry Project. In Learning progressions in science (pp. 357-403). Brill Sense.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweet Tooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Part 2 of Lupin</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss the research on learning progressions in science education by examining two articles. The <a href="https://dhammer.phy.tufts.edu/home/publications_files/HammerandSikorskiLPessay.pdf" rel="nofollow">first article</a> is from Hammer &amp; Sikorski (2015) which examines the implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. The <a href="https://inquiryproject.terc.edu/about/presentations-reports/Wiser-2009-LeaPS.pdf" rel="nofollow">second article</a> outlines a way that learning progressions can be used as a tool for curriculum development.</p>

<p>References:<br>
Hammer, D., &amp; Sikorski, T. R. (2015). Implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. Science Education, 99(3), 424-431.<br>
Wiser, M., Smith, C. L., &amp; Doubler, S. (2012). Learning progressions as tools for curriculum development: Lessons from the Inquiry Project. In Learning progressions in science (pp. 357-403). Brill Sense.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweet Tooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Part 2 of Lupin</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss the research on learning progressions in science education by examining two articles. The <a href="https://dhammer.phy.tufts.edu/home/publications_files/HammerandSikorskiLPessay.pdf" rel="nofollow">first article</a> is from Hammer &amp; Sikorski (2015) which examines the implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. The <a href="https://inquiryproject.terc.edu/about/presentations-reports/Wiser-2009-LeaPS.pdf" rel="nofollow">second article</a> outlines a way that learning progressions can be used as a tool for curriculum development.</p>

<p>References:<br>
Hammer, D., &amp; Sikorski, T. R. (2015). Implications of complexity for research on learning progressions. Science Education, 99(3), 424-431.<br>
Wiser, M., Smith, C. L., &amp; Doubler, S. (2012). Learning progressions as tools for curriculum development: Lessons from the Inquiry Project. In Learning progressions in science (pp. 357-403). Brill Sense.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweet Tooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Part 2 of Lupin</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 44: We are not the Borg</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Posner, Strike, Hewson, and Getzog's paper on conceptual change and the theory's impact on science education.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss Posner, Strike, Hewson, and Getzog&#39;s paper on conceptual change and the theory&#39;s impact on science education.<br>
<a href="http://www.ud.infn.it/URDF/laurea/idifo1/materiali/g5/Posner%20et%20al.pdf" rel="nofollow">Posner, G. J., Strike, K. A., Hewson, P. W., &amp; Gertzog, W. A. (1982). Accommodation of a scientific conception: Toward a theory of conceptual change. Science education, 66(2), 211-227.</a></p>

<p>As we discuss the article, we also mention the 1987 movie <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a> which had a huge impact on the field of science education in the 80&#39;s.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweettooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.mashed.com/389936/trader-joes-new-peanut-butter-chocolate-joe-joes-have-fans-excited/" rel="nofollow">Peanut Butter Covered JoJo&#39;s</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss Posner, Strike, Hewson, and Getzog&#39;s paper on conceptual change and the theory&#39;s impact on science education.<br>
<a href="http://www.ud.infn.it/URDF/laurea/idifo1/materiali/g5/Posner%20et%20al.pdf" rel="nofollow">Posner, G. J., Strike, K. A., Hewson, P. W., &amp; Gertzog, W. A. (1982). Accommodation of a scientific conception: Toward a theory of conceptual change. Science education, 66(2), 211-227.</a></p>

<p>As we discuss the article, we also mention the 1987 movie <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a> which had a huge impact on the field of science education in the 80&#39;s.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweettooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.mashed.com/389936/trader-joes-new-peanut-butter-chocolate-joe-joes-have-fans-excited/" rel="nofollow">Peanut Butter Covered JoJo&#39;s</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we discuss Posner, Strike, Hewson, and Getzog&#39;s paper on conceptual change and the theory&#39;s impact on science education.<br>
<a href="http://www.ud.infn.it/URDF/laurea/idifo1/materiali/g5/Posner%20et%20al.pdf" rel="nofollow">Posner, G. J., Strike, K. A., Hewson, P. W., &amp; Gertzog, W. A. (1982). Accommodation of a scientific conception: Toward a theory of conceptual change. Science education, 66(2), 211-227.</a></p>

<p>As we discuss the article, we also mention the 1987 movie <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a> which had a huge impact on the field of science education in the 80&#39;s.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81221380" rel="nofollow">Sweettooth</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.mashed.com/389936/trader-joes-new-peanut-butter-chocolate-joe-joes-have-fans-excited/" rel="nofollow">Peanut Butter Covered JoJo&#39;s</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 43: Heroes, Villians, and Apprentices</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week, we continue our examination of different learning theories and theorists and dig into Situated Learning: Legitimate Peripheral Participation by Lave and Wenger.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>52:05</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we continue our examination of different learning theories and theorists and dig into Situated Learning: Legitimate Peripheral Participation by Lave and Wenger. The book examines how different cultures and professions enculturate newcomers into their communities of practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - Be Sweet</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/mare-of-easttown" rel="nofollow">Mare of Easttown</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/qaKZi6p6sxg" rel="nofollow">Check out Saturday Night Live&#39;s Durder Murder skit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this week&#39;s episode, we continue our examination of different learning theories and theorists and dig into Situated Learning: Legitimate Peripheral Participation by Lave and Wenger. The book examines how different cultures and professions enculturate newcomers into their communities of practice. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - Be Sweet</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/mare-of-easttown" rel="nofollow">Mare of Easttown</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/qaKZi6p6sxg" rel="nofollow">Check out Saturday Night Live&#39;s Durder Murder skit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="http://japanesebreakfast.rocks/" rel="nofollow">Japanese Breakfast - Be Sweet</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/mare-of-easttown" rel="nofollow">Mare of Easttown</a><br>
<a href="https://youtu.be/qaKZi6p6sxg" rel="nofollow">Check out Saturday Night Live&#39;s Durder Murder skit</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a></p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 42: Confronting Your Own IRE</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about Jay Lemke's book "Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values".</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Jay Lemke&#39;s book about how students and teachers talk science in classrooms. In particular, how he identified issues of power and control by teachers as well as a way to analyze classroom talk as a way to understand learning. </p>

<p><a href="https://1lib.us/book/1206088/5bacf3" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values</a> by Jay Lemke <br>
Initiate/Respond/Evaluate (IRE) pattern of classroom talk - Sinclair, J. M., Sinclair, J. M., &amp; Coulthard, M. (1975). Towards an analysis of discourse: The English used by teachers and pupils. Oxford University Press, USA.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://1lib.us" rel="nofollow">Z Library </a> - A resource for books and articles. <br>
<a href="https://1lib.us/book/5572031/b2fb05" rel="nofollow">The Missing Course</a> by David Gooblar</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Jay Lemke&#39;s book about how students and teachers talk science in classrooms. In particular, how he identified issues of power and control by teachers as well as a way to analyze classroom talk as a way to understand learning. </p>

<p><a href="https://1lib.us/book/1206088/5bacf3" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values</a> by Jay Lemke <br>
Initiate/Respond/Evaluate (IRE) pattern of classroom talk - Sinclair, J. M., Sinclair, J. M., &amp; Coulthard, M. (1975). Towards an analysis of discourse: The English used by teachers and pupils. Oxford University Press, USA.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://1lib.us" rel="nofollow">Z Library </a> - A resource for books and articles. <br>
<a href="https://1lib.us/book/5572031/b2fb05" rel="nofollow">The Missing Course</a> by David Gooblar</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about Jay Lemke&#39;s book about how students and teachers talk science in classrooms. In particular, how he identified issues of power and control by teachers as well as a way to analyze classroom talk as a way to understand learning. </p>

<p><a href="https://1lib.us/book/1206088/5bacf3" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values</a> by Jay Lemke <br>
Initiate/Respond/Evaluate (IRE) pattern of classroom talk - Sinclair, J. M., Sinclair, J. M., &amp; Coulthard, M. (1975). Towards an analysis of discourse: The English used by teachers and pupils. Oxford University Press, USA.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://1lib.us" rel="nofollow">Z Library </a> - A resource for books and articles. <br>
<a href="https://1lib.us/book/5572031/b2fb05" rel="nofollow">The Missing Course</a> by David Gooblar</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 41: All the Hammers</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we continue our learning theory conversation by digging into the seminal article by Brown, Collins and Duguid that popularized the term "cognitive apprenticeship."</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our learning theory conversation by digging into the seminal article by Brown, Collins and Duguid that popularized the term &quot;cognitive apprenticeship.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1176008.pdf?casa_token=KsF9q4MsFCkAAAAA:LlSZKoGZPIc82L85ks0TqN2LS0twBMTB8b8nHu_wtsq66U2rqzsZwLxe8Gr4yYQh8fDxamqcjYCzRf-Vesi4aHU1K7fJ54TSX_fBtuGjdJJ8dA9hb9Jz4w" rel="nofollow">Brown, J. S., Collins, A., &amp; Duguid, P. (1989). Situated Cognition and the Culture of Learning. Educational Researcher, 18(1), 32–42. </a></p>

<p>Midway through the episode, Scott discusses MC Hammer involvement in a recent discussion about science and philosophy. You read more about it <a href="https://massivesci.com/notes/mc-hammer-science-philosophy-twitter/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://gutterballs.tv" rel="nofollow">Gutterballs: The Big Lebowski Deepcast</a> (<a href="https://gutterballs.tv/001/" rel="nofollow">Episode 1</a>)<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pangram/id1493066702" rel="nofollow">Pangram App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our learning theory conversation by digging into the seminal article by Brown, Collins and Duguid that popularized the term &quot;cognitive apprenticeship.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1176008.pdf?casa_token=KsF9q4MsFCkAAAAA:LlSZKoGZPIc82L85ks0TqN2LS0twBMTB8b8nHu_wtsq66U2rqzsZwLxe8Gr4yYQh8fDxamqcjYCzRf-Vesi4aHU1K7fJ54TSX_fBtuGjdJJ8dA9hb9Jz4w" rel="nofollow">Brown, J. S., Collins, A., &amp; Duguid, P. (1989). Situated Cognition and the Culture of Learning. Educational Researcher, 18(1), 32–42. </a></p>

<p>Midway through the episode, Scott discusses MC Hammer involvement in a recent discussion about science and philosophy. You read more about it <a href="https://massivesci.com/notes/mc-hammer-science-philosophy-twitter/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://gutterballs.tv" rel="nofollow">Gutterballs: The Big Lebowski Deepcast</a> (<a href="https://gutterballs.tv/001/" rel="nofollow">Episode 1</a>)<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pangram/id1493066702" rel="nofollow">Pangram App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our learning theory conversation by digging into the seminal article by Brown, Collins and Duguid that popularized the term &quot;cognitive apprenticeship.&quot;</p>

<p><a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/1176008.pdf?casa_token=KsF9q4MsFCkAAAAA:LlSZKoGZPIc82L85ks0TqN2LS0twBMTB8b8nHu_wtsq66U2rqzsZwLxe8Gr4yYQh8fDxamqcjYCzRf-Vesi4aHU1K7fJ54TSX_fBtuGjdJJ8dA9hb9Jz4w" rel="nofollow">Brown, J. S., Collins, A., &amp; Duguid, P. (1989). Situated Cognition and the Culture of Learning. Educational Researcher, 18(1), 32–42. </a></p>

<p>Midway through the episode, Scott discusses MC Hammer involvement in a recent discussion about science and philosophy. You read more about it <a href="https://massivesci.com/notes/mc-hammer-science-philosophy-twitter/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://gutterballs.tv" rel="nofollow">Gutterballs: The Big Lebowski Deepcast</a> (<a href="https://gutterballs.tv/001/" rel="nofollow">Episode 1</a>)<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/pangram/id1493066702" rel="nofollow">Pangram App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 40: Happy Dewey Day</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>John Dewey Episode on Dewey Day.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:13</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We begin a conversation about learning theory with the great John Dewey. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s1/watergate" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn Podcast</a> from Slate<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28202.The_Metaphysical_Club" rel="nofollow">The Metaphysical Club</a> by Louis Menand</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We begin a conversation about learning theory with the great John Dewey. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s1/watergate" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn Podcast</a> from Slate<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28202.The_Metaphysical_Club" rel="nofollow">The Metaphysical Club</a> by Louis Menand</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We begin a conversation about learning theory with the great John Dewey. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://slate.com/podcasts/slow-burn/s1/watergate" rel="nofollow">Slow Burn Podcast</a> from Slate<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/28202.The_Metaphysical_Club" rel="nofollow">The Metaphysical Club</a> by Louis Menand</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 39: Transitions and Manifestations</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We transition from learning spaces to an introduction to our series on learning theory. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>37:56</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we transition from our discussion on design principles and learning spaces and into an examination of different learning theories that have impacted our work and the way we see the world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Lupin on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.middleditchandschwartz.com/netflix-specials" rel="nofollow">Middleditch and Schwartz on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we transition from our discussion on design principles and learning spaces and into an examination of different learning theories that have impacted our work and the way we see the world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Lupin on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.middleditchandschwartz.com/netflix-specials" rel="nofollow">Middleditch and Schwartz on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we transition from our discussion on design principles and learning spaces and into an examination of different learning theories that have impacted our work and the way we see the world.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80994082" rel="nofollow">Lupin on Netflix</a><br>
<a href="https://www.middleditchandschwartz.com/netflix-specials" rel="nofollow">Middleditch and Schwartz on Netflix</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 38: Tools are Embedded in Practice</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Continue the conversation about design principles for learning spaces - learning spaces should be task responsive. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9208876/" rel="nofollow">Falcon and the Winter Soldier</a> on Disney +<br>
Invincible on <a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/invincible" rel="nofollow">Comixology</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1264469/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3" rel="nofollow">Amazon Prime</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:keywords>science education, online learning</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9208876/" rel="nofollow">Falcon and the Winter Soldier</a> on Disney +<br>
Invincible on <a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/invincible" rel="nofollow">Comixology</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1264469/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3" rel="nofollow">Amazon Prime</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9208876/" rel="nofollow">Falcon and the Winter Soldier</a> on Disney +<br>
Invincible on <a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/invincible" rel="nofollow">Comixology</a> and <a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1264469/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3" rel="nofollow">Amazon Prime</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 37: Self Deprecating but Accurate</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we continue our exploration of design principles for learning spaces and introduce our third design principle: learning spaces should have a changeable center.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our exploration of design principles for learning spaces and introduce our third design principle: learning spaces should have a changeable center.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Scott_Free_(New_Earth)" rel="nofollow">Mr. Miracle </a><br>
<a href="https://sunnyhealthfitness.com/products/sunny-health-and-fitness-sf-rw5515-magnetic-rowing-machine-rower-w-lcd-monitor" rel="nofollow">Sunny Rowing Machine</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our exploration of design principles for learning spaces and introduce our third design principle: learning spaces should have a changeable center.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Scott_Free_(New_Earth)" rel="nofollow">Mr. Miracle </a><br>
<a href="https://sunnyhealthfitness.com/products/sunny-health-and-fitness-sf-rw5515-magnetic-rowing-machine-rower-w-lcd-monitor" rel="nofollow">Sunny Rowing Machine</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, we continue our exploration of design principles for learning spaces and introduce our third design principle: learning spaces should have a changeable center.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Scott_Free_(New_Earth)" rel="nofollow">Mr. Miracle </a><br>
<a href="https://sunnyhealthfitness.com/products/sunny-health-and-fitness-sf-rw5515-magnetic-rowing-machine-rower-w-lcd-monitor" rel="nofollow">Sunny Rowing Machine</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 36: Architecturally Agnostic</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2021 08:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/ea236b38-d983-4474-8e5d-e765fbcbf72b.mp3" length="18919467" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about our second learning spaces design principle about multiple representations and multiple tools.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:24</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo" rel="nofollow">Cinco de Mayo</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/nomadland/" rel="nofollow">Nomadland</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/164432.Wooden_Boats?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=vYPmsRaQDa&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Wooden Boats: In Pursuit of the Perfect Craft at an American Boatyard</a> by Michael Ruhlman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo" rel="nofollow">Cinco de Mayo</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/nomadland/" rel="nofollow">Nomadland</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/164432.Wooden_Boats?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=vYPmsRaQDa&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Wooden Boats: In Pursuit of the Perfect Craft at an American Boatyard</a> by Michael Ruhlman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinco_de_Mayo" rel="nofollow">Cinco de Mayo</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://letterboxd.com/film/nomadland/" rel="nofollow">Nomadland</a><br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/164432.Wooden_Boats?from_search=true&from_srp=true&qid=vYPmsRaQDa&rank=1" rel="nofollow">Wooden Boats: In Pursuit of the Perfect Craft at an American Boatyard</a> by Michael Ruhlman</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 35: Not Messing Around On the Fringes</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/bcd48b02-308a-4e2d-8e2a-988e4873635c.mp3" length="21986660" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, we lay the foundation for an ongoing discussion of different design principles for learning spaces.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>45:47</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In episode 35, we start our dive into design principles that can inform the creation and use of learning environments. While this will be the start of a several episode arc where we discuss different design principle, in this episode, we discuss why design principles are important and what we mean when we use the term &quot;learning spaces.&quot;</p>

<p>In our introduction, we discuss &quot;disciplined improvisation&quot; and how it connects to teaching. Check out <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/3699971.pdf?casa_token=4KTqVDv2u6cAAAAA:IE2po71qQvNBSzcKqt-aK8Pf6dWFAxPEgr0psgsAHFwvlCAbRhemnCmdeHGnERfLr6EWwV8wNIUe7vYAi3aAzPm3kYJ7IzB7ZnAh8wRPi5w_MVCOARWJ1g" rel="nofollow">this article</a> by R. Keith Sawyer.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868" rel="nofollow">Smartless Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_of_Metal" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>In episode 35, we start our dive into design principles that can inform the creation and use of learning environments. While this will be the start of a several episode arc where we discuss different design principle, in this episode, we discuss why design principles are important and what we mean when we use the term &quot;learning spaces.&quot;</p>

<p>In our introduction, we discuss &quot;disciplined improvisation&quot; and how it connects to teaching. Check out <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/3699971.pdf?casa_token=4KTqVDv2u6cAAAAA:IE2po71qQvNBSzcKqt-aK8Pf6dWFAxPEgr0psgsAHFwvlCAbRhemnCmdeHGnERfLr6EWwV8wNIUe7vYAi3aAzPm3kYJ7IzB7ZnAh8wRPi5w_MVCOARWJ1g" rel="nofollow">this article</a> by R. Keith Sawyer.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868" rel="nofollow">Smartless Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_of_Metal" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In episode 35, we start our dive into design principles that can inform the creation and use of learning environments. While this will be the start of a several episode arc where we discuss different design principle, in this episode, we discuss why design principles are important and what we mean when we use the term &quot;learning spaces.&quot;</p>

<p>In our introduction, we discuss &quot;disciplined improvisation&quot; and how it connects to teaching. Check out <a href="https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/3699971.pdf?casa_token=4KTqVDv2u6cAAAAA:IE2po71qQvNBSzcKqt-aK8Pf6dWFAxPEgr0psgsAHFwvlCAbRhemnCmdeHGnERfLr6EWwV8wNIUe7vYAi3aAzPm3kYJ7IzB7ZnAh8wRPi5w_MVCOARWJ1g" rel="nofollow">this article</a> by R. Keith Sawyer.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/smartless/id1521578868" rel="nofollow">Smartless Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_of_Metal" rel="nofollow">Sound of Metal</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 34: The Prime Directive(s) on a Napkin</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/34</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/a7419ccd-b45b-4d81-a5be-055441342f6e.mp3" length="19715888" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we introduce a series about learning environments and what the key principles might be to guide their design.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:03</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
      <itunes:image href="https://media24.fireside.fm/file/fireside-images-2024/podcasts/images/1/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/cover.jpg?v=1"/>
      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Teaching+Naked&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="nofollow">Teaching Naked: How Moving Technology Out of Your College Classroom Will Improve Student Learning</a> by José Antonio Bowen<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Send-Human-Machine%E2%80%B2s-Job/dp/1452282579" rel="nofollow">Never Send a Human to do a Machine&#39;s Job</a> by Yong Zhao</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/beartown" rel="nofollow">Beartown </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2195464.What_I_Talk_About_When_I_Talk_About_Running" rel="nofollow">What I talk about when I talk about running</a> by Haruki Murakami</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, learning spaces</itunes:keywords>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Teaching+Naked&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="nofollow">Teaching Naked: How Moving Technology Out of Your College Classroom Will Improve Student Learning</a> by José Antonio Bowen<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Send-Human-Machine%E2%80%B2s-Job/dp/1452282579" rel="nofollow">Never Send a Human to do a Machine&#39;s Job</a> by Yong Zhao</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/beartown" rel="nofollow">Beartown </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2195464.What_I_Talk_About_When_I_Talk_About_Running" rel="nofollow">What I talk about when I talk about running</a> by Haruki Murakami</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Teaching+Naked&i=stripbooks&ref=nb_sb_noss" rel="nofollow">Teaching Naked: How Moving Technology Out of Your College Classroom Will Improve Student Learning</a> by José Antonio Bowen<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Never-Send-Human-Machine%E2%80%B2s-Job/dp/1452282579" rel="nofollow">Never Send a Human to do a Machine&#39;s Job</a> by Yong Zhao</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/beartown" rel="nofollow">Beartown </a>on HBO Max<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2195464.What_I_Talk_About_When_I_Talk_About_Running" rel="nofollow">What I talk about when I talk about running</a> by Haruki Murakami</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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    <item>
      <title>Episode 33: Stupid things... And we love them.</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/33</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about things we learned and will carry forward from the remote/hybrid learning experience of the last year. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:51</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss the things that we learned from the pandemic and the things we hope get carried forward. Or not. In one section, we share a quote from Dr. Teresa Thayer Snyder, a retired superintendent from upstate New York. Dr. Snyder writes:</p>

<p>&quot; When the children return to school, they will have returned with a new history that we will need to help them identify and make sense of. When the children return to school, we will need to listen to them. Let their stories be told. They have endured a year that has no parallel in modern times. There is no assessment that applies to who they are or what they have learned. Remember, their brains did not go into hibernation during this year. Their brains may not have been focused on traditional school material, but they did not stop either. Their brains may have been focused on where their next meal is coming from, or how to care for a younger sibling, or how to deal with missing grandma, or how it feels to have to surrender a beloved pet, or how to deal with death. Our job is to welcome them back and help them write that history.”</p>

<p>The full text can be found on <a href="https://dianeravitch.net/2020/12/12/teresa-thayer-snyder-what-shall-we-do-about-the-children-after-the-pandemic/" rel="nofollow">Diane Ravitch&#39;s site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://magicplaylist.co/#/?_k=b726ok" rel="nofollow">Magic Playlist on Spotify</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJDARjzHhZE" rel="nofollow">Domi and JD Beck - Sniff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss the things that we learned from the pandemic and the things we hope get carried forward. Or not. In one section, we share a quote from Dr. Teresa Thayer Snyder, a retired superintendent from upstate New York. Dr. Snyder writes:</p>

<p>&quot; When the children return to school, they will have returned with a new history that we will need to help them identify and make sense of. When the children return to school, we will need to listen to them. Let their stories be told. They have endured a year that has no parallel in modern times. There is no assessment that applies to who they are or what they have learned. Remember, their brains did not go into hibernation during this year. Their brains may not have been focused on traditional school material, but they did not stop either. Their brains may have been focused on where their next meal is coming from, or how to care for a younger sibling, or how to deal with missing grandma, or how it feels to have to surrender a beloved pet, or how to deal with death. Our job is to welcome them back and help them write that history.”</p>

<p>The full text can be found on <a href="https://dianeravitch.net/2020/12/12/teresa-thayer-snyder-what-shall-we-do-about-the-children-after-the-pandemic/" rel="nofollow">Diane Ravitch&#39;s site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://magicplaylist.co/#/?_k=b726ok" rel="nofollow">Magic Playlist on Spotify</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJDARjzHhZE" rel="nofollow">Domi and JD Beck - Sniff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss the things that we learned from the pandemic and the things we hope get carried forward. Or not. In one section, we share a quote from Dr. Teresa Thayer Snyder, a retired superintendent from upstate New York. Dr. Snyder writes:</p>

<p>&quot; When the children return to school, they will have returned with a new history that we will need to help them identify and make sense of. When the children return to school, we will need to listen to them. Let their stories be told. They have endured a year that has no parallel in modern times. There is no assessment that applies to who they are or what they have learned. Remember, their brains did not go into hibernation during this year. Their brains may not have been focused on traditional school material, but they did not stop either. Their brains may have been focused on where their next meal is coming from, or how to care for a younger sibling, or how to deal with missing grandma, or how it feels to have to surrender a beloved pet, or how to deal with death. Our job is to welcome them back and help them write that history.”</p>

<p>The full text can be found on <a href="https://dianeravitch.net/2020/12/12/teresa-thayer-snyder-what-shall-we-do-about-the-children-after-the-pandemic/" rel="nofollow">Diane Ravitch&#39;s site</a>.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://magicplaylist.co/#/?_k=b726ok" rel="nofollow">Magic Playlist on Spotify</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJDARjzHhZE" rel="nofollow">Domi and JD Beck - Sniff</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 32: Three Claps for the Big Dog</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Energy and Matter.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the final episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Energy and Matter. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=5" rel="nofollow">Energy and Matter Grade Level Progression</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.aps.org/prper/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevPhysEducRes.15.010129" rel="nofollow">Research on Drawings of Energy</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Discussion Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://my.nsta.org/resource/102117" rel="nofollow">Teaching Energy Across the Sciences, K-12</a> from NSTA Press<br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/tea.21556" rel="nofollow">Systems, transfer, and fields: Evaluating a new approach to energy instruction</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/White-Stripes-Greatest-Hits/dp/B08KFS2WNZ" rel="nofollow">The White Stripes Greatest Hits</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Data-Detective-Rules-Sense-Statistics/dp/0593084594" rel="nofollow">Tim Harford&#39;s Data Detective</a> and <a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the final episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Energy and Matter. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=5" rel="nofollow">Energy and Matter Grade Level Progression</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.aps.org/prper/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevPhysEducRes.15.010129" rel="nofollow">Research on Drawings of Energy</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Discussion Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://my.nsta.org/resource/102117" rel="nofollow">Teaching Energy Across the Sciences, K-12</a> from NSTA Press<br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/tea.21556" rel="nofollow">Systems, transfer, and fields: Evaluating a new approach to energy instruction</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/White-Stripes-Greatest-Hits/dp/B08KFS2WNZ" rel="nofollow">The White Stripes Greatest Hits</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Data-Detective-Rules-Sense-Statistics/dp/0593084594" rel="nofollow">Tim Harford&#39;s Data Detective</a> and <a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the final episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Energy and Matter. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=5" rel="nofollow">Energy and Matter Grade Level Progression</a><br>
<a href="https://journals.aps.org/prper/pdf/10.1103/PhysRevPhysEducRes.15.010129" rel="nofollow">Research on Drawings of Energy</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Discussion Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://my.nsta.org/resource/102117" rel="nofollow">Teaching Energy Across the Sciences, K-12</a> from NSTA Press<br>
<a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/tea.21556" rel="nofollow">Systems, transfer, and fields: Evaluating a new approach to energy instruction</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/White-Stripes-Greatest-Hits/dp/B08KFS2WNZ" rel="nofollow">The White Stripes Greatest Hits</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Data-Detective-Rules-Sense-Statistics/dp/0593084594" rel="nofollow">Tim Harford&#39;s Data Detective</a> and <a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 31: Introducing the Rapper Izzy New</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Systems and Systems Modeling.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Systems and Systems Modeling. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a></p>

<p><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50d5cc57e4b0e383f5b1eb34/t/5b50dd03758d4683e0a4bc79/1532026115507/Systems.pdf" rel="nofollow">Systems Graphic Organizer from Bozeman Science</a></p>

<p>Looking for prompts to talk about systems and systems modeling in your class, check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.cc.com/video/18l8gy/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-unusually-large-snowstorm" rel="nofollow">Jon Stewart lampoons climate change deniers on The Daily Show</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03057267.2021.1897932" rel="nofollow">Gray, R., McDonald, S., &amp; Stroupe, D. (in press). What you find depends on how you see: Examining asset and deficit perspectives of preservice science teachers’ knowledge and learning. <em>Studies in Science Education.</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/ice-cream/bci600.html" rel="nofollow">Breville Smart Scoop</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Systems and Systems Modeling. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a></p>

<p><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50d5cc57e4b0e383f5b1eb34/t/5b50dd03758d4683e0a4bc79/1532026115507/Systems.pdf" rel="nofollow">Systems Graphic Organizer from Bozeman Science</a></p>

<p>Looking for prompts to talk about systems and systems modeling in your class, check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.cc.com/video/18l8gy/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-unusually-large-snowstorm" rel="nofollow">Jon Stewart lampoons climate change deniers on The Daily Show</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03057267.2021.1897932" rel="nofollow">Gray, R., McDonald, S., &amp; Stroupe, D. (in press). What you find depends on how you see: Examining asset and deficit perspectives of preservice science teachers’ knowledge and learning. <em>Studies in Science Education.</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/ice-cream/bci600.html" rel="nofollow">Breville Smart Scoop</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In the penultimate episode on our series on the Cross Cutting Concepts, we examine Systems and Systems Modeling. <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a></p>

<p><a href="https://static1.squarespace.com/static/50d5cc57e4b0e383f5b1eb34/t/5b50dd03758d4683e0a4bc79/1532026115507/Systems.pdf" rel="nofollow">Systems Graphic Organizer from Bozeman Science</a></p>

<p>Looking for prompts to talk about systems and systems modeling in your class, check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://www.cc.com/video/18l8gy/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-unusually-large-snowstorm" rel="nofollow">Jon Stewart lampoons climate change deniers on The Daily Show</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03057267.2021.1897932" rel="nofollow">Gray, R., McDonald, S., &amp; Stroupe, D. (in press). What you find depends on how you see: Examining asset and deficit perspectives of preservice science teachers’ knowledge and learning. <em>Studies in Science Education.</em></a><br>
<a href="https://www.breville.com/us/en/products/ice-cream/bci600.html" rel="nofollow">Breville Smart Scoop</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 30: Not FULL of Dad Jokes</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Patterns.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>37:55</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://brocku.ca/MeadProject/Dewey/Dewey_1910a/Dewey_1910_a.html" rel="nofollow">Perplexity - John Dewey</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4647692/" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/meeting-the-universe-halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://brocku.ca/MeadProject/Dewey/Dewey_1910a/Dewey_1910_a.html" rel="nofollow">Perplexity - John Dewey</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4647692/" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/meeting-the-universe-halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Prompts</a><br>
<a href="https://brocku.ca/MeadProject/Dewey/Dewey_1910a/Dewey_1910_a.html" rel="nofollow">Perplexity - John Dewey</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4647692/" rel="nofollow">Letterkenny</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.dukeupress.edu/meeting-the-universe-halfway" rel="nofollow">Meeting the Universe Halfway</a> by Karen Barad</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 29: No One Says Dummy Head</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Stability and Change.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:39</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Part of our series on the different Cross Cutting Concepts, this week we examine Stability and Change. <br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br><br>
<a href="https://ekvv.uni-bielefeld.de/pers_publ/publ/PersonDetail.jsp?personId=195750322&lang=EN" rel="nofollow">Andrés Acher </a><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sce.20196" rel="nofollow">Modeling Research</a> and Transformation Boxes in Biology. [Briefly, all things in Biology can be represented as &quot;boxes&quot; of inputs (energy, matter, and information) and outputs of the same three things that are transformed.]</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344455803_Learning_About_Crosscutting_Concepts_as_Concepts_Background_and_future_of_crosscutting_concept" rel="nofollow">Research on students&#39; developmental understanding of equilibrium</a></p>

<p><a href="https://education.msu.edu/projects/leaps/proceedings/Gunckel.pdf" rel="nofollow">Research on shifts from force-dynamic language in science</a> </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765387561" rel="nofollow">The Invisible Life of Addie Larue by V.E. Schwab</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/snowshoeing-first-steps.html" rel="nofollow">A Beginner&#39;s Guide to Snow Shoeing</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Part of our series on the different Cross Cutting Concepts, this week we examine Stability and Change. <br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br><br>
<a href="https://ekvv.uni-bielefeld.de/pers_publ/publ/PersonDetail.jsp?personId=195750322&lang=EN" rel="nofollow">Andrés Acher </a><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sce.20196" rel="nofollow">Modeling Research</a> and Transformation Boxes in Biology. [Briefly, all things in Biology can be represented as &quot;boxes&quot; of inputs (energy, matter, and information) and outputs of the same three things that are transformed.]</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344455803_Learning_About_Crosscutting_Concepts_as_Concepts_Background_and_future_of_crosscutting_concept" rel="nofollow">Research on students&#39; developmental understanding of equilibrium</a></p>

<p><a href="https://education.msu.edu/projects/leaps/proceedings/Gunckel.pdf" rel="nofollow">Research on shifts from force-dynamic language in science</a> </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765387561" rel="nofollow">The Invisible Life of Addie Larue by V.E. Schwab</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/snowshoeing-first-steps.html" rel="nofollow">A Beginner&#39;s Guide to Snow Shoeing</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Part of our series on the different Cross Cutting Concepts, this week we examine Stability and Change. <br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br><br>
<a href="https://ekvv.uni-bielefeld.de/pers_publ/publ/PersonDetail.jsp?personId=195750322&lang=EN" rel="nofollow">Andrés Acher </a><a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/sce.20196" rel="nofollow">Modeling Research</a> and Transformation Boxes in Biology. [Briefly, all things in Biology can be represented as &quot;boxes&quot; of inputs (energy, matter, and information) and outputs of the same three things that are transformed.]</p>

<p><a href="https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344455803_Learning_About_Crosscutting_Concepts_as_Concepts_Background_and_future_of_crosscutting_concept" rel="nofollow">Research on students&#39; developmental understanding of equilibrium</a></p>

<p><a href="https://education.msu.edu/projects/leaps/proceedings/Gunckel.pdf" rel="nofollow">Research on shifts from force-dynamic language in science</a> </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780765387561" rel="nofollow">The Invisible Life of Addie Larue by V.E. Schwab</a><br>
<a href="https://www.rei.com/learn/expert-advice/snowshoeing-first-steps.html" rel="nofollow">A Beginner&#39;s Guide to Snow Shoeing</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 28: Former Junior Engineer</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Structure and Function.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>39:54</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=6" rel="nofollow">NGSS Structure/Function Progression Chart</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hmhco.com/blog/how-to-teach-the-ngss-crosscutting-concept-of-structure-and-function" rel="nofollow">Science Frames</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Revised-Expanded/dp/0465050654" rel="nofollow">Design of Everyday Things</a> by Don Norman<br>
<a href="http://www.liv.ac.uk/%7Erlawson/PDF_Files/L-M&C-2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Science of Cycology</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674980150" rel="nofollow">Cognitive Gadgets</a> by Cecilia Heyes</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80215147" rel="nofollow">Blown Away</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Girl-Woman-Other-Booker-Winner/dp/0802156983" rel="nofollow">Girl, Woman, Other: A Novel</a> by Bernardine Evaristo</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=6" rel="nofollow">NGSS Structure/Function Progression Chart</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hmhco.com/blog/how-to-teach-the-ngss-crosscutting-concept-of-structure-and-function" rel="nofollow">Science Frames</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Revised-Expanded/dp/0465050654" rel="nofollow">Design of Everyday Things</a> by Don Norman<br>
<a href="http://www.liv.ac.uk/%7Erlawson/PDF_Files/L-M&C-2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Science of Cycology</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674980150" rel="nofollow">Cognitive Gadgets</a> by Cecilia Heyes</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80215147" rel="nofollow">Blown Away</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Girl-Woman-Other-Booker-Winner/dp/0802156983" rel="nofollow">Girl, Woman, Other: A Novel</a> by Bernardine Evaristo</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/CrosscuttingConcepts.aspx?id=6" rel="nofollow">NGSS Structure/Function Progression Chart</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hmhco.com/blog/how-to-teach-the-ngss-crosscutting-concept-of-structure-and-function" rel="nofollow">Science Frames</a><br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Design-Everyday-Things-Revised-Expanded/dp/0465050654" rel="nofollow">Design of Everyday Things</a> by Don Norman<br>
<a href="http://www.liv.ac.uk/%7Erlawson/PDF_Files/L-M&C-2006.pdf" rel="nofollow">Science of Cycology</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674980150" rel="nofollow">Cognitive Gadgets</a> by Cecilia Heyes</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80215147" rel="nofollow">Blown Away</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Girl-Woman-Other-Booker-Winner/dp/0802156983" rel="nofollow">Girl, Woman, Other: A Novel</a> by Bernardine Evaristo</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 27: Definitely Not Luke Skywalker</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on scale, proportion and quantity.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:42</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As part of our on-going discussion of the Cross Cutting Concepts in the NGSS, we examine Scale, Proportion and Quantity in this week&#39;s episode.  We discuss the challenges with teaching these concepts and provide some solutions as well. Here are some of the resources we share in this episode:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0" rel="nofollow">Powers of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhUujrN4iU" rel="nofollow">Zoom Book by Istvan Banyai</a></p>

<p>We also discuss some research on students&#39; challenge with scale including:<br>
Tretter, T.R., Jones, M.G., Andre, T., Negishi, A., &amp; Minogue, J. (2006). Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students’ and experts’ concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 43 (3), 282–319. </p>

<p>Which can be downloaded at: <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg</a></p>

<p>In our discussion, we compare how the students&#39; development sense of scale can be compared to science knowledge outlined in <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a></p>

<p>Need some prompts for talking scale, proportion and quantity with your students? Check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/grw-fa?utm_id=sa%7c71700000076234780%7c58700006507776317%7cp58828661502&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvKBBhCXARIsACTePW8zWqNTA6vlZD9hLQB8FkcAGxlKI_umIFjcuxvGCP8Rsnp8m8SkZg8aAgg-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="nofollow">The Flight Attendant on HBOMax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As part of our on-going discussion of the Cross Cutting Concepts in the NGSS, we examine Scale, Proportion and Quantity in this week&#39;s episode.  We discuss the challenges with teaching these concepts and provide some solutions as well. Here are some of the resources we share in this episode:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0" rel="nofollow">Powers of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhUujrN4iU" rel="nofollow">Zoom Book by Istvan Banyai</a></p>

<p>We also discuss some research on students&#39; challenge with scale including:<br>
Tretter, T.R., Jones, M.G., Andre, T., Negishi, A., &amp; Minogue, J. (2006). Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students’ and experts’ concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 43 (3), 282–319. </p>

<p>Which can be downloaded at: <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg</a></p>

<p>In our discussion, we compare how the students&#39; development sense of scale can be compared to science knowledge outlined in <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a></p>

<p>Need some prompts for talking scale, proportion and quantity with your students? Check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/grw-fa?utm_id=sa%7c71700000076234780%7c58700006507776317%7cp58828661502&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvKBBhCXARIsACTePW8zWqNTA6vlZD9hLQB8FkcAGxlKI_umIFjcuxvGCP8Rsnp8m8SkZg8aAgg-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="nofollow">The Flight Attendant on HBOMax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students&#39; and experts&#39; concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena - Tretter - 2006 - Journal of Research in Science Teaching - Wiley Online Library" rel="nofollow" href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=7g_b3_gQGRgAAAAA%3A_vxfeeZG0BHCvxhua0GbnaPPu2VdA1og7fKtTo0f_lgHBQfi9kEPZybkGm-mQqBCx0jNwY8BiZrPKCTpoA">Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students' and experts' concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena - Tretter - 2006 - Journal of Research in Science Teaching - Wiley Online Library</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As part of our on-going discussion of the Cross Cutting Concepts in the NGSS, we examine Scale, Proportion and Quantity in this week&#39;s episode.  We discuss the challenges with teaching these concepts and provide some solutions as well. Here are some of the resources we share in this episode:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fKBhvDjuy0" rel="nofollow">Powers of Ten</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMhUujrN4iU" rel="nofollow">Zoom Book by Istvan Banyai</a></p>

<p>We also discuss some research on students&#39; challenge with scale including:<br>
Tretter, T.R., Jones, M.G., Andre, T., Negishi, A., &amp; Minogue, J. (2006). Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students’ and experts’ concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena. Journal of Research in Science Teaching, 43 (3), 282–319. </p>

<p>Which can be downloaded at: <a href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg" rel="nofollow">https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=TJTH1B_5jXAAAAAA:fW0AYI2ESZkLFLsXBKlG8XkHPott2cP_yByYTPQCj5VmuhWBAYRbOAfG_YBerLp1U9Y-1NirfqaUqPFbOg</a></p>

<p>In our discussion, we compare how the students&#39; development sense of scale can be compared to science knowledge outlined in <a href="https://www.learner.org/series/a-private-universe/" rel="nofollow">A Private Universe</a></p>

<p>Need some prompts for talking scale, proportion and quantity with your students? Check out: <a href="http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://stemteachingtools.org/assets/landscapes/STEM-Teaching-Tool-41-Cross-Cutting-Concepts-Prompts.pdf</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.premierleague.com/" rel="nofollow">Premier League Soccer</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/grw-fa?utm_id=sa%7c71700000076234780%7c58700006507776317%7cp58828661502&gclid=Cj0KCQiAvvKBBhCXARIsACTePW8zWqNTA6vlZD9hLQB8FkcAGxlKI_umIFjcuxvGCP8Rsnp8m8SkZg8aAgg-EALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds" rel="nofollow">The Flight Attendant on HBOMax</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students&#39; and experts&#39; concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena - Tretter - 2006 - Journal of Research in Science Teaching - Wiley Online Library" rel="nofollow" href="https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/tea.20123?casa_token=7g_b3_gQGRgAAAAA%3A_vxfeeZG0BHCvxhua0GbnaPPu2VdA1og7fKtTo0f_lgHBQfi9kEPZybkGm-mQqBCx0jNwY8BiZrPKCTpoA">Conceptual boundaries and distances: Students' and experts' concepts of the scale of scientific phenomena - Tretter - 2006 - Journal of Research in Science Teaching - Wiley Online Library</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <title>Episode 26: Poo Poo the Recurring Character</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2021 06:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we continue to talk about Cross Cutting Concepts from the Next Generation Science Standards. This week we focus on Cause and Effect. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">Causal Patterns Research</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/causal/causal_types.php" rel="nofollow">Six Causal Patterns</a><br>
Also, Ollie agrees with Scott (duly noted). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://bicyclecards.com/how-to-play/500-rum/" rel="nofollow">500 Rum/Rummy</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a> on <a href="https://songexploder.net/netflix" rel="nofollow">Netflix</a> and as a <a href="https://songexploder.net/podcast" rel="nofollow">podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">Causal Patterns Research</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/causal/causal_types.php" rel="nofollow">Six Causal Patterns</a><br>
Also, Ollie agrees with Scott (duly noted). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://bicyclecards.com/how-to-play/500-rum/" rel="nofollow">500 Rum/Rummy</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a> on <a href="https://songexploder.net/netflix" rel="nofollow">Netflix</a> and as a <a href="https://songexploder.net/podcast" rel="nofollow">podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Song Exploder: A Netflix Documentary Series" rel="nofollow" href="https://songexploder.net/">Song Exploder: A Netflix Documentary Series</a></li></ul>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/sites/default/files/resource/files/Appendix%20G%20-%20Crosscutting%20Concepts%20FINAL%20edited%204.10.13.pdf" rel="nofollow">Cross Cutting Concepts (pdf download)</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/index.php" rel="nofollow">Causal Patterns Research</a><br>
<a href="http://causalpatterns.org/causal/causal_types.php" rel="nofollow">Six Causal Patterns</a><br>
Also, Ollie agrees with Scott (duly noted). </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://bicyclecards.com/how-to-play/500-rum/" rel="nofollow">500 Rum/Rummy</a><br>
<a href="https://songexploder.net" rel="nofollow">Song Exploder</a> on <a href="https://songexploder.net/netflix" rel="nofollow">Netflix</a> and as a <a href="https://songexploder.net/podcast" rel="nofollow">podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p><p>Links:</p><ul><li><a title="Song Exploder: A Netflix Documentary Series" rel="nofollow" href="https://songexploder.net/">Song Exploder: A Netflix Documentary Series</a></li></ul>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 25: Metaphorical Rabbit Holes</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week is an introduction to the Next Generation Science Standards' Crosscutting Concepts.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie introduce the Cross Cutting Concepts and their role in the Next Generation Science Standards. The episode kicks off a several episode arc where we discuss the different Cross Cutting Concepts and how we can incorporate them into our teaching.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/crosscuttingconceptsfull.aspx" rel="nofollow">NGSS Crosscutting Concepts</a></p>

<p><a href="http://essentialschools.org" rel="nofollow">Coalition of Essential Schools</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/yoda-75255" rel="nofollow">Lego - Yoda</a><br>
<a href="https://theop.games/products/game/clue-bobs-burgers/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burger&#39;s Clue Game</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/crosscuttingconceptsfull.aspx" rel="nofollow">NGSS Crosscutting Concepts</a></p>

<p><a href="http://essentialschools.org" rel="nofollow">Coalition of Essential Schools</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/yoda-75255" rel="nofollow">Lego - Yoda</a><br>
<a href="https://theop.games/products/game/clue-bobs-burgers/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burger&#39;s Clue Game</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Scott and Ollie introduce the Cross Cutting Concepts and their role in the Next Generation Science Standards. The episode kicks off a several episode arc where we discuss the different Cross Cutting Concepts and how we can incorporate them into our teaching.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards</a><br>
<a href="https://ngss.nsta.org/crosscuttingconceptsfull.aspx" rel="nofollow">NGSS Crosscutting Concepts</a></p>

<p><a href="http://essentialschools.org" rel="nofollow">Coalition of Essential Schools</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.lego.com/en-us/product/yoda-75255" rel="nofollow">Lego - Yoda</a><br>
<a href="https://theop.games/products/game/clue-bobs-burgers/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burger&#39;s Clue Game</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 24: The Grande Finale</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we conclude our talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Conclusion Chapter). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://library.educause.edu/search#?publicationandcollection_search=Horizon%20Report" rel="nofollow">Horizon Report</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0832266/" rel="nofollow">Definitely Maybe (2008)</a><br>
<a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/manifesto-teaching-online" rel="nofollow">The Manifesto for Teaching Online</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://library.educause.edu/search#?publicationandcollection_search=Horizon%20Report" rel="nofollow">Horizon Report</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0832266/" rel="nofollow">Definitely Maybe (2008)</a><br>
<a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/manifesto-teaching-online" rel="nofollow">The Manifesto for Teaching Online</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://library.educause.edu/search#?publicationandcollection_search=Horizon%20Report" rel="nofollow">Horizon Report</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0832266/" rel="nofollow">Definitely Maybe (2008)</a><br>
<a href="https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/manifesto-teaching-online" rel="nofollow">The Manifesto for Teaching Online</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 23: Fan Boys with Disagreements</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 7). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss Chapter 7 of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a>. The chapter examines the strengths and weaknesses  in the policies and practices in the field of science education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oculus.com/quest/" rel="nofollow">Occulus Quest</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio </a>- In particular the most recent season (3) focused on Democracy, and the first season about whiteness. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we discuss Chapter 7 of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a>. The chapter examines the strengths and weaknesses  in the policies and practices in the field of science education. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oculus.com/quest/" rel="nofollow">Occulus Quest</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio </a>- In particular the most recent season (3) focused on Democracy, and the first season about whiteness. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.oculus.com/quest/" rel="nofollow">Occulus Quest</a><br>
<a href="https://www.sceneonradio.org" rel="nofollow">Scene on Radio </a>- In particular the most recent season (3) focused on Democracy, and the first season about whiteness. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 22: Hero Teacher, But Not THAT One</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2021 13:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 6). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>41:55</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/FirstWeFeast" rel="nofollow">The Hot Ones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutVyuiy-xA" rel="nofollow">Chad Vader: Day Shift Manager</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/FirstWeFeast" rel="nofollow">The Hot Ones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutVyuiy-xA" rel="nofollow">Chad Vader: Day Shift Manager</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/user/FirstWeFeast" rel="nofollow">The Hot Ones</a><br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DutVyuiy-xA" rel="nofollow">Chad Vader: Day Shift Manager</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 21: Outsiders and Turning 21</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In our 21st episode, we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 5) and discuss how language is tied to identity. We also examine the stress from being an outsider.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Science in Between turns 21. In this episode, we discuss Chapter 5 in Bryan Brown&#39;s book:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a> The chapter examines how closely intertwined language and identity are and how being outside a discourse community creates stress that can impact learning.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/guide-to-cockney-rhyming-slang" rel="nofollow">Cockney Rhyming Slang</a></p>

<p><strong>Things that bring us joy this week:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.jackboxgames.com/party-pack-three/" rel="nofollow">Jackbox Games </a> in particular T.K.O., Trivia Murder Party, and Quiplash. <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80238565" rel="nofollow">Derry Girls</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Science in Between turns 21. In this episode, we discuss Chapter 5 in Bryan Brown&#39;s book:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a> The chapter examines how closely intertwined language and identity are and how being outside a discourse community creates stress that can impact learning.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/guide-to-cockney-rhyming-slang" rel="nofollow">Cockney Rhyming Slang</a></p>

<p><strong>Things that bring us joy this week:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.jackboxgames.com/party-pack-three/" rel="nofollow">Jackbox Games </a> in particular T.K.O., Trivia Murder Party, and Quiplash. <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80238565" rel="nofollow">Derry Girls</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, Science in Between turns 21. In this episode, we discuss Chapter 5 in Bryan Brown&#39;s book:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a> The chapter examines how closely intertwined language and identity are and how being outside a discourse community creates stress that can impact learning.</p>

<p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/education/2014/jun/09/guide-to-cockney-rhyming-slang" rel="nofollow">Cockney Rhyming Slang</a></p>

<p><strong>Things that bring us joy this week:</strong><br>
<a href="https://www.jackboxgames.com/party-pack-three/" rel="nofollow">Jackbox Games </a> in particular T.K.O., Trivia Murder Party, and Quiplash. <br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80238565" rel="nofollow">Derry Girls</a> on Netflix</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 20: Out With The Bad Air</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 4). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caves_of_Steel" rel="nofollow">Caves of Steel</a> by Issac Azimov<br>
<a href="https://shop.explodingkittens.com/products/poetry-for-neanderthals" rel="nofollow">Poetry for Neanderthals</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caves_of_Steel" rel="nofollow">Caves of Steel</a> by Issac Azimov<br>
<a href="https://shop.explodingkittens.com/products/poetry-for-neanderthals" rel="nofollow">Poetry for Neanderthals</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Caves_of_Steel" rel="nofollow">Caves of Steel</a> by Issac Azimov<br>
<a href="https://shop.explodingkittens.com/products/poetry-for-neanderthals" rel="nofollow">Poetry for Neanderthals</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 19: Lessons Learned for 2021</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2021 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Our New Year's Edition. We take a week off from Bryan Brown's book to talk about what we learned from 2020 that we can apply to the new year.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:26</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we take a momentary break from our podcast book club and reflect on 2020. Scott and Ollie discuss the lessons they&#39;ve learned from the wild, disruptive year and what we can apply to the new year ahead.</p>

<p>As always, in this episode, we disucss a bunch of stuff including the Hidden Brain podcast, in particular, <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/hidden-brain/when-you-start-to-miss-tony-from-accounting" rel="nofollow">When You Start to Miss Tony in Accounting</a>,  <a href="https://www.calnewport.com" rel="nofollow">Cal Newport</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80207046" rel="nofollow">Sunderland &#39;Til I Die</a> on Netflix<br>
Stevie Wonder&#39;s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Key-Life-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004SZWD" rel="nofollow">Songs on the Key of Life</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Book-Remastered-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004S36A" rel="nofollow">Talking Book</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we take a momentary break from our podcast book club and reflect on 2020. Scott and Ollie discuss the lessons they&#39;ve learned from the wild, disruptive year and what we can apply to the new year ahead.</p>

<p>As always, in this episode, we disucss a bunch of stuff including the Hidden Brain podcast, in particular, <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/hidden-brain/when-you-start-to-miss-tony-from-accounting" rel="nofollow">When You Start to Miss Tony in Accounting</a>,  <a href="https://www.calnewport.com" rel="nofollow">Cal Newport</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80207046" rel="nofollow">Sunderland &#39;Til I Die</a> on Netflix<br>
Stevie Wonder&#39;s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Key-Life-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004SZWD" rel="nofollow">Songs on the Key of Life</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Book-Remastered-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004S36A" rel="nofollow">Talking Book</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, we take a momentary break from our podcast book club and reflect on 2020. Scott and Ollie discuss the lessons they&#39;ve learned from the wild, disruptive year and what we can apply to the new year ahead.</p>

<p>As always, in this episode, we disucss a bunch of stuff including the Hidden Brain podcast, in particular, <a href="https://omny.fm/shows/hidden-brain/when-you-start-to-miss-tony-from-accounting" rel="nofollow">When You Start to Miss Tony in Accounting</a>,  <a href="https://www.calnewport.com" rel="nofollow">Cal Newport</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubb" rel="nofollow">Kubb</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80207046" rel="nofollow">Sunderland &#39;Til I Die</a> on Netflix<br>
Stevie Wonder&#39;s <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Songs-Key-Life-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004SZWD" rel="nofollow">Songs on the Key of Life</a> and <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Talking-Book-Remastered-Stevie-Wonder/dp/B00004S36A" rel="nofollow">Talking Book</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 18: Whorfian Complidiss</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 3). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:38</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lee_Whorf" rel="nofollow">Benajmin Lee Whorf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worf" rel="nofollow">Worf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball" rel="nofollow">Curveballs</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Frank-Herbert/dp/0441172717" rel="nofollow">Dune</a> by Frank Herbert<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GXxis0w4EP8N_vAEAAACO" rel="nofollow">Harley Quinn Series </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lee_Whorf" rel="nofollow">Benajmin Lee Whorf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worf" rel="nofollow">Worf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball" rel="nofollow">Curveballs</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Frank-Herbert/dp/0441172717" rel="nofollow">Dune</a> by Frank Herbert<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GXxis0w4EP8N_vAEAAACO" rel="nofollow">Harley Quinn Series </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lee_Whorf" rel="nofollow">Benajmin Lee Whorf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worf" rel="nofollow">Worf</a></p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball" rel="nofollow">Curveballs</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Dune-Frank-Herbert/dp/0441172717" rel="nofollow">Dune</a> by Frank Herbert<br>
<a href="https://www.hbomax.com/series/urn:hbo:series:GXxis0w4EP8N_vAEAAACO" rel="nofollow">Harley Quinn Series </a>on HBO Max</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 17: Guess What's In My Head</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 09:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Ch. 2). </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED362379" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values by Jay Lemke</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/the-mandalorian" rel="nofollow">Mandalorian</a> on Disney Plus<br>
Sonos <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1TzGTGDQxsKDlq7os7tTn5?R0ZV=" rel="nofollow">The Encyclopedia of Bittany Radio Show</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED362379" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values by Jay Lemke</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/the-mandalorian" rel="nofollow">Mandalorian</a> on Disney Plus<br>
Sonos <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1TzGTGDQxsKDlq7os7tTn5?R0ZV=" rel="nofollow">The Encyclopedia of Bittany Radio Show</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p><a href="https://eric.ed.gov/?id=ED362379" rel="nofollow">Talking Science: Language, Learning, and Values by Jay Lemke</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/the-mandalorian" rel="nofollow">Mandalorian</a> on Disney Plus<br>
Sonos <a href="https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1TzGTGDQxsKDlq7os7tTn5?R0ZV=" rel="nofollow">The Encyclopedia of Bittany Radio Show</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 16: That Stereotype is Indexical</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about Bryan Brown's book, Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education (Introduction and Chapter 1). </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>44:21</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10048342/" rel="nofollow">The Queen&#39;s Gambit</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="http://revisionisthistory.com" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a> with Malcolm Gladwell</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10048342/" rel="nofollow">The Queen&#39;s Gambit</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="http://revisionisthistory.com" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a> with Malcolm Gladwell</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Science-City-Culturally-Relevant-Education/dp/1682533743/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=Science+in+the+City%3A+Culturally+Relevant+STEM+Education&qid=1603990786&sr=8-3" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education</a> by <a href="https://ed.stanford.edu/faculty/brbrown" rel="nofollow">Bryan Brown</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10048342/" rel="nofollow">The Queen&#39;s Gambit</a> on Netflix<br>
<a href="http://revisionisthistory.com" rel="nofollow">Revisionist History</a> with Malcolm Gladwell</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Bonus Episode: Join Our In-Between Book Club</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Starting with episode 16 we will be doing a chapter by chapter discussion of Bryan Brown's book "Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education", so grab a copy and read along with us.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Starting with episode 16, we&#39;ll be reading <a href="https://www.hepg.org/hep-home/books/science-in-the-city" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education by Bryan Brown</a>. Join us as we examine how language and culture matter for effective science teaching. Over the next several episodes, we&#39;ll be reading a chapter a week. We hope you&#39;ll join us on this &quot;In-Between Book Club.&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Starting with episode 16, we&#39;ll be reading <a href="https://www.hepg.org/hep-home/books/science-in-the-city" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education by Bryan Brown</a>. Join us as we examine how language and culture matter for effective science teaching. Over the next several episodes, we&#39;ll be reading a chapter a week. We hope you&#39;ll join us on this &quot;In-Between Book Club.&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Starting with episode 16, we&#39;ll be reading <a href="https://www.hepg.org/hep-home/books/science-in-the-city" rel="nofollow">Science in the City: Culturally Relevant STEM Education by Bryan Brown</a>. Join us as we examine how language and culture matter for effective science teaching. Over the next several episodes, we&#39;ll be reading a chapter a week. We hope you&#39;ll join us on this &quot;In-Between Book Club.&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 15: Dropping the Milieu</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about how to think about keeping kids engaged so that we can build on their ideas to make class engaging and productive.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>38:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our discussion on engaging students, we cover a lot of territory and drop lots of resources. The concept of control value theory can be found in <a href="https://wvupressonline.com/node/642" rel="nofollow">The Spark of Learning</a> by Sarah Rose Cavanagh and in <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24783/how-people-learn-ii-learners-contexts-and-cultures" rel="nofollow">How People Learn II: Learners, Contexts and Cultures</a> by the National Academies Press.</p>

<p>If you&#39;re interested in Hank Green, check out <a href="https://hankgreen.com/" rel="nofollow">his website</a> where he bills himself as a &quot;science communicator.&quot; Hank and his brother John Green (the author) also started Crash Course and SciShow.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/the-old-guard-vol-2-force-multiplied-tp" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Vol. 2: Force Multiplied</a><br>
<a href="https://americanutopiabroadway.com" rel="nofollow">American Utopia</a> on <a href="https://www.hbo.com/specials/american-utopia" rel="nofollow">HBO Max</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our discussion on engaging students, we cover a lot of territory and drop lots of resources. The concept of control value theory can be found in <a href="https://wvupressonline.com/node/642" rel="nofollow">The Spark of Learning</a> by Sarah Rose Cavanagh and in <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24783/how-people-learn-ii-learners-contexts-and-cultures" rel="nofollow">How People Learn II: Learners, Contexts and Cultures</a> by the National Academies Press.</p>

<p>If you&#39;re interested in Hank Green, check out <a href="https://hankgreen.com/" rel="nofollow">his website</a> where he bills himself as a &quot;science communicator.&quot; Hank and his brother John Green (the author) also started Crash Course and SciShow.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/the-old-guard-vol-2-force-multiplied-tp" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Vol. 2: Force Multiplied</a><br>
<a href="https://americanutopiabroadway.com" rel="nofollow">American Utopia</a> on <a href="https://www.hbo.com/specials/american-utopia" rel="nofollow">HBO Max</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In our discussion on engaging students, we cover a lot of territory and drop lots of resources. The concept of control value theory can be found in <a href="https://wvupressonline.com/node/642" rel="nofollow">The Spark of Learning</a> by Sarah Rose Cavanagh and in <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/24783/how-people-learn-ii-learners-contexts-and-cultures" rel="nofollow">How People Learn II: Learners, Contexts and Cultures</a> by the National Academies Press.</p>

<p>If you&#39;re interested in Hank Green, check out <a href="https://hankgreen.com/" rel="nofollow">his website</a> where he bills himself as a &quot;science communicator.&quot; Hank and his brother John Green (the author) also started Crash Course and SciShow.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/the-old-guard-vol-2-force-multiplied-tp" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Vol. 2: Force Multiplied</a><br>
<a href="https://americanutopiabroadway.com" rel="nofollow">American Utopia</a> on <a href="https://www.hbo.com/specials/american-utopia" rel="nofollow">HBO Max</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 14: Show Me Your Core Competencies</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>What we wish we had learned from our science teachers.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/fargo" rel="nofollow">Fargo</a> (The TV show, Season 4) on FX<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/fargo" rel="nofollow">Fargo</a> (The TV show, Season 4) on FX<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/fargo" rel="nofollow">Fargo</a> (The TV show, Season 4) on FX<br>
<a href="https://www.hbo.com/watchmen" rel="nofollow">Watchmen</a> on HBO</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 13: The Nerdiest Draft Ever!</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/13</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>NGSS Draft Day</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:55</itunes:duration>
      <itunes:explicit>false</itunes:explicit>
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      <description>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our top picks for content students need to learn in science:</p>

<ol>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-3 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS2-4 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS2-8 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS2-2 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS4-5 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS4-1</li>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-1 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS3-3</li>
<li>Ollie  - HS-LS2-7 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-PS1-2 </li>
</ol>

<p>To see the specific standards, check out the <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards </a></p>

<p>Radiolab Podcast - <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/fungus-amungus" rel="nofollow">Fungus Among Us Episode</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/adventure-zone" rel="nofollow">The Adventure Zone</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Pablo" rel="nofollow">Boy Pablo</a> - in particular, &quot;Hey Girl&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <content:encoded>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our top picks for content students need to learn in science:</p>

<ol>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-3 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS2-4 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS2-8 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS2-2 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS4-5 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS4-1</li>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-1 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS3-3</li>
<li>Ollie  - HS-LS2-7 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-PS1-2 </li>
</ol>

<p>To see the specific standards, check out the <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards </a></p>

<p>Radiolab Podcast - <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/fungus-amungus" rel="nofollow">Fungus Among Us Episode</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/adventure-zone" rel="nofollow">The Adventure Zone</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Pablo" rel="nofollow">Boy Pablo</a> - in particular, &quot;Hey Girl&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>Our top picks for content students need to learn in science:</p>

<ol>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-3 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS2-4 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS2-8 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS2-2 </li>
<li>Ollie - HS-LS4-5 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-LS4-1</li>
<li>Ollie - HS-ETS1-1 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-ESS3-3</li>
<li>Ollie  - HS-LS2-7 </li>
<li>Scott - HS-PS1-2 </li>
</ol>

<p>To see the specific standards, check out the <a href="https://www.nextgenscience.org/" rel="nofollow">Next Generation Science Standards </a></p>

<p>Radiolab Podcast - <a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/radiolab/articles/fungus-amungus" rel="nofollow">Fungus Among Us Episode</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://maximumfun.org/podcasts/adventure-zone" rel="nofollow">The Adventure Zone</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Pablo" rel="nofollow">Boy Pablo</a> - in particular, &quot;Hey Girl&quot;</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 12: Fear the E</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/12</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/73d0d4c1-444e-4836-8de1-fca5f024ff56.mp3" length="66736087" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about the IRE pattern of talk, questions, and talking with students in ways that get us to the classroom climate we want, but is so hard in remote environments. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>46:20</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you talk with kids about their ideas and how do you use questions to support their learning? </p>

<p>Initiate - Response - Evaluate pattern of talk is a class in classroom discourse. The teacher asks a question for which they have a specific answer in mind, a student answers, and the teacher evaluates that response. This pernicious pattern leaves kids without a sense of agency in their own science learning. It has only become harder to avoid this in our new remote focused world of teaching.</p>

<p>How might popcicle sticks change your game? How can you use other modes of participation or tools to bring more students into the conversation?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/anthropocene-reviewed" rel="nofollow">Anthropocene Reviewed</a><br>
<a href="https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/mobile/scanner-app.html" rel="nofollow">Adobe Scan App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>How do you talk with kids about their ideas and how do you use questions to support their learning? </p>

<p>Initiate - Response - Evaluate pattern of talk is a class in classroom discourse. The teacher asks a question for which they have a specific answer in mind, a student answers, and the teacher evaluates that response. This pernicious pattern leaves kids without a sense of agency in their own science learning. It has only become harder to avoid this in our new remote focused world of teaching.</p>

<p>How might popcicle sticks change your game? How can you use other modes of participation or tools to bring more students into the conversation?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/anthropocene-reviewed" rel="nofollow">Anthropocene Reviewed</a><br>
<a href="https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/mobile/scanner-app.html" rel="nofollow">Adobe Scan App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>How do you talk with kids about their ideas and how do you use questions to support their learning? </p>

<p>Initiate - Response - Evaluate pattern of talk is a class in classroom discourse. The teacher asks a question for which they have a specific answer in mind, a student answers, and the teacher evaluates that response. This pernicious pattern leaves kids without a sense of agency in their own science learning. It has only become harder to avoid this in our new remote focused world of teaching.</p>

<p>How might popcicle sticks change your game? How can you use other modes of participation or tools to bring more students into the conversation?</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/anthropocene-reviewed" rel="nofollow">Anthropocene Reviewed</a><br>
<a href="https://acrobat.adobe.com/us/en/mobile/scanner-app.html" rel="nofollow">Adobe Scan App</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </itunes:summary>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 11: Plum Pudding and Fools' Errands</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/11</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/c5ae1210-33b7-461a-b45d-50e147fd4b44.mp3" length="62741860" type="audio/mpeg"/>
      <itunes:episodeType>full</itunes:episodeType>
      <itunes:season>1</itunes:season>
      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about assessment - formative v. summative, as well as how to think about it in the in-between.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>43:34</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the challenges with assessment in face-to-face and online classrooms. While the conversation begins with an observation Ollie makes of his son&#39;s math class, the scope broadens to explore why we assess and how we assess to better reflect reform-minded teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.missiontozyxx.space" rel="nofollow">Mission to Zyxx</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/gideon-falls" rel="nofollow">Gideon Falls</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online teaching, assessment</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the challenges with assessment in face-to-face and online classrooms. While the conversation begins with an observation Ollie makes of his son&#39;s math class, the scope broadens to explore why we assess and how we assess to better reflect reform-minded teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.missiontozyxx.space" rel="nofollow">Mission to Zyxx</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/gideon-falls" rel="nofollow">Gideon Falls</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </content:encoded>
      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the challenges with assessment in face-to-face and online classrooms. While the conversation begins with an observation Ollie makes of his son&#39;s math class, the scope broadens to explore why we assess and how we assess to better reflect reform-minded teaching.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.missiontozyxx.space" rel="nofollow">Mission to Zyxx</a><br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/gideon-falls" rel="nofollow">Gideon Falls</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 10: N is National not Next</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2020 12:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
      <enclosure url="https://aphid.fireside.fm/d/1437767933/174f5e18-3006-4905-8c87-7b85989adeda/048e52cd-81d2-488b-a1b1-d40cb59b4c33.mp3" length="49866419" type="audio/mpeg"/>
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      <itunes:author>Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon</itunes:author>
      <itunes:subtitle>We talk about the new National Academies report on "Teaching K-12 Science and Engineering During a Crisis". </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>34:37</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25909/teaching-k-12-science-and-engineering-during-a-crisis" rel="nofollow">Teaching K-12 Science and Engieering During a Crisis - National Academies Press </a><br>
They articulate four key principles: <br>
1) Maintain a focus on the <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">Framework</a>’s vision for high quality science and engineering education; <br>
2) Prioritize relationships, equity, and the most vulnerable students; <br>
3) Families and communities are critical assets for science and engineering learning; <br>
4) Adjusting to changing learning environments and recovering from disrupted learning as an ongoing process that takes time.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1561755/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burgers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/" rel="nofollow">The Boys</a> on Amazon Prime based on <a href="https://theboys-comic.com" rel="nofollow">The Boys </a>comicbook</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
      </description>
      <itunes:keywords>science education, online teaching</itunes:keywords>
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        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25909/teaching-k-12-science-and-engineering-during-a-crisis" rel="nofollow">Teaching K-12 Science and Engieering During a Crisis - National Academies Press </a><br>
They articulate four key principles: <br>
1) Maintain a focus on the <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">Framework</a>’s vision for high quality science and engineering education; <br>
2) Prioritize relationships, equity, and the most vulnerable students; <br>
3) Families and communities are critical assets for science and engineering learning; <br>
4) Adjusting to changing learning environments and recovering from disrupted learning as an ongoing process that takes time.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1561755/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burgers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/" rel="nofollow">The Boys</a> on Amazon Prime based on <a href="https://theboys-comic.com" rel="nofollow">The Boys </a>comicbook</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:summary>
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/25909/teaching-k-12-science-and-engineering-during-a-crisis" rel="nofollow">Teaching K-12 Science and Engieering During a Crisis - National Academies Press </a><br>
They articulate four key principles: <br>
1) Maintain a focus on the <a href="https://www.nap.edu/catalog/13165/a-framework-for-k-12-science-education-practices-crosscutting-concepts" rel="nofollow">Framework</a>’s vision for high quality science and engineering education; <br>
2) Prioritize relationships, equity, and the most vulnerable students; <br>
3) Families and communities are critical assets for science and engineering learning; <br>
4) Adjusting to changing learning environments and recovering from disrupted learning as an ongoing process that takes time.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1561755/" rel="nofollow">Bob&#39;s Burgers</a><br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190634/" rel="nofollow">The Boys</a> on Amazon Prime based on <a href="https://theboys-comic.com" rel="nofollow">The Boys </a>comicbook</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="" role="host">Scott McDonald</podcast:person>
      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 9: Phenomena (Do do do do do)</title>
      <link>https://scienceinbetween.fireside.fm/9</link>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This week we talk about the key nature of phenomena and how they are not science concepts and also how to think about engaging kids with them when not face-to-face.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, the dynamic duo (Scott and Ollie) discuss how critical phenomena are to ambitious and equitable science education and how it helps us go beyond &quot;moving the chairs around.&quot; In our discussion, Scott critiques the use of <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/04/cordyceps-zombie-fungus-takes-over-ants/" rel="nofollow">Zombie Ants</a> as a &quot;fun&quot; phenomenon to engage students in science. We use this discussion as a springboard into a larger conversation about how we select phenomena around which to build units in our face-to-face and online classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u7EIiohs6U" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso</a> on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/62220-gray-man" rel="nofollow">Grey Man Series</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, the dynamic duo (Scott and Ollie) discuss how critical phenomena are to ambitious and equitable science education and how it helps us go beyond &quot;moving the chairs around.&quot; In our discussion, Scott critiques the use of <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/04/cordyceps-zombie-fungus-takes-over-ants/" rel="nofollow">Zombie Ants</a> as a &quot;fun&quot; phenomenon to engage students in science. We use this discussion as a springboard into a larger conversation about how we select phenomena around which to build units in our face-to-face and online classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u7EIiohs6U" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso</a> on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/62220-gray-man" rel="nofollow">Grey Man Series</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week, the dynamic duo (Scott and Ollie) discuss how critical phenomena are to ambitious and equitable science education and how it helps us go beyond &quot;moving the chairs around.&quot; In our discussion, Scott critiques the use of <a href="https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/2019/04/cordyceps-zombie-fungus-takes-over-ants/" rel="nofollow">Zombie Ants</a> as a &quot;fun&quot; phenomenon to engage students in science. We use this discussion as a springboard into a larger conversation about how we select phenomena around which to build units in our face-to-face and online classrooms. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u7EIiohs6U" rel="nofollow">Ted Lasso</a> on Apple TV+<br>
<a href="https://www.goodreads.com/series/62220-gray-man" rel="nofollow">Grey Man Series</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 8: Up Your Explanatory Quotient</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>How do you think about laboratory experiences outside of a face to face environment? </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>37:27</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about the laboratory experience in online, remote, and mixed mode environments. What is the difference between things that can&#39;t normally be done in a classroom that you might use even in face to face environments, and things that are replacements for thing that you would have done face to face where you are using video to show the procedure of a lab and then giving students access to date. The key is to provide experiences that open up opportunities for kids to reason about phenomena, not just follow a procedure. </p>

<p>Here are some key resources for supporting investigations in online science teaching:</p>

<p><a href="https://concord.org/resources/" rel="nofollow">Concord Consortium</a><br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu" rel="nofollow">PhET Simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.merlot.org/merlot/index.htm" rel="nofollow">MERLOT</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hippocampus.org" rel="nofollow">Hippocampus</a></p>

<p>We are working on a website with an annotated clearinghouse of resources that we have vetted. Hope to have it up soon.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9209/ticket-ride" rel="nofollow">Ticket to Ride</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27225/bananagrams" rel="nofollow">Bananagrams</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/834/chronology" rel="nofollow">Chronology</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about the laboratory experience in online, remote, and mixed mode environments. What is the difference between things that can&#39;t normally be done in a classroom that you might use even in face to face environments, and things that are replacements for thing that you would have done face to face where you are using video to show the procedure of a lab and then giving students access to date. The key is to provide experiences that open up opportunities for kids to reason about phenomena, not just follow a procedure. </p>

<p>Here are some key resources for supporting investigations in online science teaching:</p>

<p><a href="https://concord.org/resources/" rel="nofollow">Concord Consortium</a><br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu" rel="nofollow">PhET Simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.merlot.org/merlot/index.htm" rel="nofollow">MERLOT</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hippocampus.org" rel="nofollow">Hippocampus</a></p>

<p>We are working on a website with an annotated clearinghouse of resources that we have vetted. Hope to have it up soon.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9209/ticket-ride" rel="nofollow">Ticket to Ride</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27225/bananagrams" rel="nofollow">Bananagrams</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/834/chronology" rel="nofollow">Chronology</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This week we talk about how to think about the laboratory experience in online, remote, and mixed mode environments. What is the difference between things that can&#39;t normally be done in a classroom that you might use even in face to face environments, and things that are replacements for thing that you would have done face to face where you are using video to show the procedure of a lab and then giving students access to date. The key is to provide experiences that open up opportunities for kids to reason about phenomena, not just follow a procedure. </p>

<p>Here are some key resources for supporting investigations in online science teaching:</p>

<p><a href="https://concord.org/resources/" rel="nofollow">Concord Consortium</a><br>
<a href="https://phet.colorado.edu" rel="nofollow">PhET Simulations</a><br>
<a href="https://www.merlot.org/merlot/index.htm" rel="nofollow">MERLOT</a><br>
<a href="https://www.hippocampus.org" rel="nofollow">Hippocampus</a></p>

<p>We are working on a website with an annotated clearinghouse of resources that we have vetted. Hope to have it up soon.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/25669/qwirkle" rel="nofollow">Qwirkle</a> <br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/9209/ticket-ride" rel="nofollow">Ticket to Ride</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/27225/bananagrams" rel="nofollow">Bananagrams</a><br>
<a href="https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/834/chronology" rel="nofollow">Chronology</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 7: Death March with Fun Sauce</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Ollie and Scott answer the question, "What do you teach?".</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:04</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Prompted by an activity that Ollie did with one of his classes, Ollie and Scott discuss their &quot;origin stories&quot; and detail how they became teachers. As Scott explains early in the episode, we deconstruct these stories to examine the bigger question &quot;What do we teach?&quot; Students? Or content? Both? </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/east-of-west" rel="nofollow">East of West</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80010778" rel="nofollow">Documentary Now</a>; In particular, Season 1 episode named &quot;A Town, A Gangster, A Festival&quot;. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Prompted by an activity that Ollie did with one of his classes, Ollie and Scott discuss their &quot;origin stories&quot; and detail how they became teachers. As Scott explains early in the episode, we deconstruct these stories to examine the bigger question &quot;What do we teach?&quot; Students? Or content? Both? </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/east-of-west" rel="nofollow">East of West</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80010778" rel="nofollow">Documentary Now</a>; In particular, Season 1 episode named &quot;A Town, A Gangster, A Festival&quot;. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Prompted by an activity that Ollie did with one of his classes, Ollie and Scott discuss their &quot;origin stories&quot; and detail how they became teachers. As Scott explains early in the episode, we deconstruct these stories to examine the bigger question &quot;What do we teach?&quot; Students? Or content? Both? </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/east-of-west" rel="nofollow">East of West</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/80010778" rel="nofollow">Documentary Now</a>; In particular, Season 1 episode named &quot;A Town, A Gangster, A Festival&quot;. </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 6: The Continuity Caveat</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Curricular continuity is our focus this week. We talk about keeping your kids "together" while reminding yourself that you can let that go. </itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>First, we are in a time where there is absolutely no continuity in how class time is organized, so how do you think about structuring class. Second, we have a long-standing over emphasis in schools on curriculuar continuity - every lesson is its own thing, and this leads to its own kind of disconnection. Standardization and consistency is in tension with individuality and responsiveness. We say, just like Frozen - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKLFS-aKcw" rel="nofollow">Let it Go</a>. Try thinking about continuity at different grain-sizes and make your goal the development of a community of science learners. Think in new ways and free yourself of old ideas about the linearity of time. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">Comma Separated Value (.csv) file</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.traillink.com" rel="nofollow">TrailLink</a><br>
Biking - nothing to recommend except to go out and do it. Can look at <a href="https://www.strava.com" rel="nofollow">Strava</a>.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>First, we are in a time where there is absolutely no continuity in how class time is organized, so how do you think about structuring class. Second, we have a long-standing over emphasis in schools on curriculuar continuity - every lesson is its own thing, and this leads to its own kind of disconnection. Standardization and consistency is in tension with individuality and responsiveness. We say, just like Frozen - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKLFS-aKcw" rel="nofollow">Let it Go</a>. Try thinking about continuity at different grain-sizes and make your goal the development of a community of science learners. Think in new ways and free yourself of old ideas about the linearity of time. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">Comma Separated Value (.csv) file</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.traillink.com" rel="nofollow">TrailLink</a><br>
Biking - nothing to recommend except to go out and do it. Can look at <a href="https://www.strava.com" rel="nofollow">Strava</a>.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>First, we are in a time where there is absolutely no continuity in how class time is organized, so how do you think about structuring class. Second, we have a long-standing over emphasis in schools on curriculuar continuity - every lesson is its own thing, and this leads to its own kind of disconnection. Standardization and consistency is in tension with individuality and responsiveness. We say, just like Frozen - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEKLFS-aKcw" rel="nofollow">Let it Go</a>. Try thinking about continuity at different grain-sizes and make your goal the development of a community of science learners. Think in new ways and free yourself of old ideas about the linearity of time. </p>

<p><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">Comma Separated Value (.csv) file</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy this week:<br>
<a href="https://www.traillink.com" rel="nofollow">TrailLink</a><br>
Biking - nothing to recommend except to go out and do it. Can look at <a href="https://www.strava.com" rel="nofollow">Strava</a>.</p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: <a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind</a><br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <podcast:person email="" href="https://www.oliverdreon.com/" role="host">Ollie Dreon</podcast:person>
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      <title>Episode 5: Three Ps in a Pod(cast)</title>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2020 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the Processes, Principles, and Practices that inform the integration of technology into our face-to-face, online and remotes classrooms.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>42:45</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the Processes, Principles, and Practices that inform the integration of technology into our face-to-face, online and remotes classrooms. We share a some &quot;design principles&quot; about creating effective learning environments that are embedded in learning theory. We also promised that we&#39;d include the definition of &quot;reify&quot; in the show notes:</p>

<p><em>reify</em> (verb) - to make (something abstract) more concrete or real.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446029/" rel="nofollow">Scott Pilgrim vs. The World</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ninasimone.com/" rel="nofollow">Nina SImone</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this episode, Scott and Ollie discuss the Processes, Principles, and Practices that inform the integration of technology into our face-to-face, online and remotes classrooms. We share a some &quot;design principles&quot; about creating effective learning environments that are embedded in learning theory. We also promised that we&#39;d include the definition of &quot;reify&quot; in the show notes:</p>

<p><em>reify</em> (verb) - to make (something abstract) more concrete or real.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446029/" rel="nofollow">Scott Pilgrim vs. The World</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ninasimone.com/" rel="nofollow">Nina SImone</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p><em>reify</em> (verb) - to make (something abstract) more concrete or real.</p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0446029/" rel="nofollow">Scott Pilgrim vs. The World</a><br>
<a href="https://www.ninasimone.com/" rel="nofollow">Nina SImone</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <author>sbmcdon@mac.com (Scott McDonald and Ollie Dreon)</author>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We focus on managing learning on zoom or with other remote tools and how it can support groups. </itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>50:47</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We talk about how to think about supporting science teachers as they learn and also the complexities of managing groups of learners in a remote context. We also address some of the issues of digital records of learning and the implications of the shift to remote contexts. We recognize that getting coherence in this brave new world is hard and that technology is often built on outdated models of learning. </p>

<p>Things we mention:<br>
<a href="https://www.isbe.net/Documents/RL-Recommendations-3-27-20.pdf" rel="nofollow">State of Illinois Remote Learning Recommendations</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Graphic Novel</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81038963" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
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<p>Things we mention:<br>
<a href="https://www.isbe.net/Documents/RL-Recommendations-3-27-20.pdf" rel="nofollow">State of Illinois Remote Learning Recommendations</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Graphic Novel</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81038963" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We talk about how to think about supporting science teachers as they learn and also the complexities of managing groups of learners in a remote context. We also address some of the issues of digital records of learning and the implications of the shift to remote contexts. We recognize that getting coherence in this brave new world is hard and that technology is often built on outdated models of learning. </p>

<p>Things we mention:<br>
<a href="https://www.isbe.net/Documents/RL-Recommendations-3-27-20.pdf" rel="nofollow">State of Illinois Remote Learning Recommendations</a></p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://imagecomics.com/comics/series/the-old-guard" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Graphic Novel</a><br>
<a href="https://www.netflix.com/title/81038963" rel="nofollow">The Old Guard Movie</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <title>Episode 3: Grouping (in Between)</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>As schools begin to schedule classes in the pandemic world, the question arise: How do we group students across the different learning modalities to promote active participation and student engagement?</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>48:17</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this discussion of virtual and face-to-face grouping in science classes, Scott and Ollie examine some practices that promote more participation in online spaces. Beyond an &quot;esoteric&quot; analysis of online interaction, we discuss how we use different technologies to get groups of students to engage with one another and with course content. </p>

<p>Links to things we mention in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200421-why-zoom-video-chats-are-so-exhausting" rel="nofollow">The reason Zoom class drain your energy</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">What is a CSV file?</a><br>
<a href="https://k3hamilton.com/LTech/transactional.html" rel="nofollow">Moore&#39;s Theory of Transactional Distance</a></p>

<p>In each episode, we share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oceanhorn-2/id1141837408" rel="nofollow">Oceanhorn 2</a><br>
<a href="https://simonsinek.com/product/leaders-eat-last/" rel="nofollow">Leaders Eat Last</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In this discussion of virtual and face-to-face grouping in science classes, Scott and Ollie examine some practices that promote more participation in online spaces. Beyond an &quot;esoteric&quot; analysis of online interaction, we discuss how we use different technologies to get groups of students to engage with one another and with course content. </p>

<p>Links to things we mention in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200421-why-zoom-video-chats-are-so-exhausting" rel="nofollow">The reason Zoom class drain your energy</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">What is a CSV file?</a><br>
<a href="https://k3hamilton.com/LTech/transactional.html" rel="nofollow">Moore&#39;s Theory of Transactional Distance</a></p>

<p>In each episode, we share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oceanhorn-2/id1141837408" rel="nofollow">Oceanhorn 2</a><br>
<a href="https://simonsinek.com/product/leaders-eat-last/" rel="nofollow">Leaders Eat Last</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p>Links to things we mention in this episode:<br>
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20200421-why-zoom-video-chats-are-so-exhausting" rel="nofollow">The reason Zoom class drain your energy</a><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comma-separated_values" rel="nofollow">What is a CSV file?</a><br>
<a href="https://k3hamilton.com/LTech/transactional.html" rel="nofollow">Moore&#39;s Theory of Transactional Distance</a></p>

<p>In each episode, we share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:<br>
<a href="https://apps.apple.com/us/app/oceanhorn-2/id1141837408" rel="nofollow">Oceanhorn 2</a><br>
<a href="https://simonsinek.com/product/leaders-eat-last/" rel="nofollow">Leaders Eat Last</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>We agree on the name of the podcast. Also, we begin to lay out the problems caused for science teaching, especially innovative science teaching when we move remote or in-between.</itunes:subtitle>
      <itunes:duration>47:42</itunes:duration>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss the sage on the stage, the guide on the side, and our own variation the coach on the bench and what this means for who does the hard work of the science thinking in science classrooms. We also talk about how COVID is an example of how science really works, but it is happening in a public way. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://thememorypalace.us" rel="nofollow">Memory Palace Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We discuss the sage on the stage, the guide on the side, and our own variation the coach on the bench and what this means for who does the hard work of the science thinking in science classrooms. We also talk about how COVID is an example of how science really works, but it is happening in a public way. </p>

<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://thememorypalace.us" rel="nofollow">Memory Palace Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p>Things that bring us joy:<br>
<a href="https://thememorypalace.us" rel="nofollow">Memory Palace Podcast</a><br>
<a href="https://timharford.com/articles/cautionarytales/" rel="nofollow">Cautionary Tales Podcast</a></p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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      <itunes:subtitle>This is the inaugural episode of our podcast. In this episode, we discuss our motivations for starting this podcast and the conversations we're hoping to have.</itunes:subtitle>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As we start this adventure, we discuss the challenges facing schools and science educators during the pandemic. As we move to online instruction in more schools, what does science teaching look like? How do our roles as science teachers change? We don&#39;t necessarily have the answers but we think we&#39;re asking the right questions and offering some thoughts. </p>

<p>We also share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" rel="nofollow">The Food Network show Chopped</a><br>
<a href="https://atrpodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast by Michael Lewis</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
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<p>We also share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" rel="nofollow">The Food Network show Chopped</a><br>
<a href="https://atrpodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast by Michael Lewis</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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<p>We also share &quot;things that bring us joy.&quot; This week, that includes:</p>

<p><a href="https://www.foodnetwork.com/shows/chopped" rel="nofollow">The Food Network show Chopped</a><br>
<a href="https://atrpodcast.com/" rel="nofollow">Against the Rules podcast by Michael Lewis</a> </p>

<p>Intro/Outro Music: Notice of Eviction by Legally Blind (<a href="https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind" rel="nofollow">https://freemusicarchive.org/music/Legally_Blind</a>)<br>
Production assistance by Enzo Dreon</p>]]>
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