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    <description>What does it mean to be a strategic owner? How might it matter if something is owned in the public market or, by a founder or family? What about the time horizon, and what does it mean to say you are invested for the long term? Beyond a single business’ success, do the patterns of ownership of businesses across the country make a difference in the ways these businesses run, whether mom-and-pop shops or multi-national corporations? 
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today on The Owner’s Box, we are joined by Jim McKelvey. Jim is probably best known as the co-founder of Square, the payment technology company he built alongside Jack Dorsey that went on to reshape how small businesses accept payments. You may not know that Square is in a very small cadre of companies that Amazon tried to copy and couldn't, which Jim illuminates in his recent book, The Innovation Stack.  On today’s episode, Originality and Impact with Jim McKelvey.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>The Washington Post just announced it was laying off 30% of its workforce. 300 newsroom journalists told to put down their pens, entire sections gutted. How did we get here? What does it take to sustain a mission-driven media company? At the Owner's Box, we are interested in how ownership shapes a company's behavior and nowhere is that more interesting than in an industry with a mission to provide a public good.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today we have an opportunity to chat with my friend, Chef Nina Compton, the owner of the acclaimed Compère Lapin in New Orleans. Nina's journey from cooking Christmas dinner for her family in St. Lucia to competing on Top Chef and winning the James Beard Award for Best Chef: South is remarkable. But what makes her story particularly interesting from an ownership lens is that she and her husband, Larry, have thoughtfully built a portfolio of projects, all while trying to live a life worth living. On today’s episode, Balancing Ambition in a Culinary Portfolio with Nina Compton. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today’s guests are a father-son duo who have been on a fascinating journey of growing up with the family business, exiting that chapter, and deciding to start a new one. Tad Edwards was part of a multi-generational family business in the financial services industry, A.G. Edwards, that was ultimately acquired by Wachovia and then Wells Fargo. Tad took the pen on the next chapter of the family legacy by starting the firm Benjamin F. Edwards, and is now joined in the business by his son, Ben. On today’s episode, New Growth from Deep Roots with Tad and Ben Edwards of Benjamin F. Edwards. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In October, Juliet Chung of the Wall Street Journal wrote a piece titled "Wealthy Families Are Writing Mission Statements to Avoid Fights, Lost Fortunes."  If no family – happy or unhappy– is simple, what does it mean for a family to be intentional? Today on the Owner's Box, the power and limitations of a family mission statement, and what lessons are worth mining from multi-generational family business owners. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Tactics from the Owner's Box: Lessons on Enterpreneurship with John McDonnell</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>For some people, a gig is a short-term step to something different, something bigger, an unspoken plan still not yet disclosed in the space unknowing between the front and back seat. To gain some insight into this space, I want to introduce you to Margarita Tsoutsoura, my colleague in the finance department of Olin Business School. Margarita’s research reminds us that the path toward starting something isn’t always getting a degree in entrepreneurship or spinning something out of an established company. Sometimes, the path is about being young, flexible, and willing to tinker within a flexible career path—the gig economy—that didn’t exist in the same way 20 years earlier.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle> To be a healthy leader means to step back... and let other voices or instruments rise to the top. Today's short “Tactics from the Owner’s Box” takes us back to another clip from a recent episode—this one with the founder of KIND Bar, Daniel Lubetzky as he discusses the entrepreneur as orchestra director.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>If you have a company that strives to be, in their own words, “Kind to one’s tastebuds, body, and the world” -- can you tease out when it pays to be kind, and what you do when you have to assess that mission pragmatically? What about when you bring that novel supply chain to market. What works in the market, and how does it shape your path to getting there? In today’s episode, we look at the balancing act between Business and Social Good with Kind Snacks Founder Daniel Lubetzky.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Over the past few years, I've had the privilege of listening to, learning from, and working alongside an extraordinary group of private business owners. These are the kind of people who, in their own quiet way, steer the course of the American economy all the while wrestling with the big, messy questions that come with running a business. Today, on "Tactics from the Owner's Box," I want to tackle one of the trickiest challenges these leaders face: how to build a business that lasts by finding--and incentivizing--the right balance between purpose and performance. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>S2: E2: Scooping for Success with Richard Graeter of Graeter's Ice Cream</title>
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      <title>Tactics from the Owner's Box: A Cabin in the Woods</title>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Dec 2024 04:00:00 -0600</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>A few weeks back, Peter Grant from the Wall Street Journal reached out with a question. How do families with real estate approach this investment differently than a fund? For Grant, the Wall Street Journal commercial real estate writer, his focus was on commercial real estate in New York. He had started to note something unusual in this space -- those families who had long committed to never sell were doing... just in fact that.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>S2:E1: Main Street's Tidal Wave of Ownership Transition</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the first episode of our second season of The Owner's Box -- we look at transitions of business ownership. What shifts as ownership changes hands, and how should policymakers navigate the so-called silver tsunami of baby boomers transitioning their businesses in one way or another.
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      <title>Episode 6: All That We Bring to the Table with Cindi Bigelow</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>For those of you playing along at home.... while this season has highlighted a number of different voices, there is at least one that is characteristically missing -- that of a female owner taking over leadership of their family business. Our discussion with Carolyn Kindle at St. Louis CITY SC hit on pieces of this work, but this was in the context of starting something new -- a soccer club in the MLS. There is something different about stewarding something that already exists. How do you lead that well? What does it mean to own something from a deep understanding of who you are.  And so with that, we queue up, Cindi Bigelow of Bigelow Tea. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Tactics from the Owner's Box: The Discipline of Long-Run Ownership</title>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Aug 2024 16:00:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In the space of ownership, the vision of building, scaling, and selling has become a shared mantra of success in the world of business schools formed in the shadow of Silicon Valley. But to suggest all businesses must follow this path is like assuming all runners need to be marathoners. Let’s put this in context by focusing our attention on the owner-operator. How does one approach an attempt to own something for the long run? How does one prepare to steward a legacy throughout the inevitable and yet unexpected changes coming down the pipe? </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Episode 5: Brothers in the Vineyard: Growing Fraiche Wine Group</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Welcome to Episode Five of the Owner’s Box by WashU Olin’s Koch Center for Family Enterprise. This week, we learn from Michael and John Kennedy on how they have worked together as siblings and a broader family to build out Fraiche Wine Group. </itunes:subtitle>
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      <title>Tactics from the Owner's Box: The Four Critical Questions of Ownership</title>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In today’s tactics from the Owner’s Box, we introduce the four critical questions for strategic owners – questions of What, How, When, and perhaps most importantly, Why.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today on “Tactics from The Owner’s Box,” we explore the meaning of legacy and how it plays into the design of a business and philanthropy over time.</itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>Today we discuss how a multi-generational family enterprise has brought soccer back to St. Louis, and their hopes and plan to make an impact far beyond the pitch.  </itunes:subtitle>
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      <itunes:subtitle>In today’s tactics from “The Owner’s Box,” we explore whether one can and should put a number…. to what it means to balance social purpose and business performance. 

 

Ultimately, how much overlap you see between the financial maximization of returns and the non-financial drivers of business likely shapes what you see as possible </itunes:subtitle>
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